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On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 9:42:18 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/23/2021 8:44 PM, wrote: Paul practiced ophthalmology for 18 years before becoming a senator for Kentucky in 2010. He also performed charity eye surgery since then as recently as 2019 in Kentucky. OTOH Fauci has just been an administrator at NIH for most of his career. So that qualifies Paul to be an expert in virology? To become a doctor in any field takes a lot of intelligence but that does not make him an expert in every field. What I was was a politician over talking the person that was trying to explain something. Not a medical professional, just another politician with big ego. Google for Dr. Tenpenny. She's a whack job doctor that's been an antivaxer for decades, now she's doubling down on it. She claims that anywhere from 42 days to 4 months after being vaccinated people are going to be getting sick and dying. I tried to watch one of her videos, too long and boring, would take an hour to get past the fluff. One thing that I did catch though was her saying that her parents were antivaxers, that she was not vaccinated and she thinks that's why she's lived so long. IDK how old she is, but she looks like she's in her 60s. With reasoning like that, ignoring that all the rest of us who were vaccinated are alive, you can begin to see the problems....... |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:14:13 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:04:07 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote: but if you put together a montage of everything Fauci has said over the last 14 months it would be a Saturday Night Live skit. More accurately, it would show us that this has been an evolving situation. They don't call it a novel coronavirus for no reason, right? Experts such as Fauci knew more 3 months in, then 6 months in, etc., than they/he knew in January 2020. I know evolving situations make you nervous, and that's OK. Life is an evolving situation. Please be thankful that most of us are able to deal with changing conditions, even if you find it difficult. I guess he doesn't understand "We don't know" is a better answer than bad guesses. Funny how you never applied that standard to Trump. In Trump's case, it would have been better to keep his mouth shut all together, instead of yapping and exposing himself again as a moron. Like when asking govt officials to try testing bleach to cleanse Covid from people's lungs. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 11:38:14 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 05:20:25 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 6:48:37 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 08:07:08 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:11:23 AM UTC-4, Shadow wrote: On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 20:50:00 -0000 (UTC), MikeJ wrote: You have got to be kidding. Much too often you type and send before you think. So DeSantis intentionally lured the kids down to Miami Yes and then shut the place down? Correct What's the purpose of doing that? Who knows why a madman does crazy things? He's a Trumpet, isn't he? Crazy is part of their modus-operandi. One obvious purpose is that DeSantis is more concerned with the FL economy than the sickness and death from Covid. Kind of like your Mr. B. He didn't want FL to forgo the revenue from Spring Break. Also, AFAIK, DeSantis didn't shut FL down just now. He opened it all up weeks ago, the only new shutdown I heard of was the mayor of Miami declaring an emergency and putting in place an 8PM curfew. Maybe D was involved and I didn't hear about it. There seems to be far more danger from the thugs that invaded Miami than the virus. I suppose time will tell about the virus. How is locked down New Jersey doing right now? Is it working for you? It was unlocking to a less restrictive stance that got the infection rate increasing again here. That combined with UK the variant, which is more widespread here. And FL isn't just unlocked, it's unlocked and stupid, eg Spring Break. The choices aren't just everything mostly closed or holding Sturgis or Spring Break with no masks, no social distancing. There is a reasonable middle ground, but obviously that's not possible with whack jobs like DeSantis. It's interesting how so many people are after Cuomo with pitch forks now over what he did with nursing homes, but no one is after Noem for allowing Sturgis that probably sickened and killed more. Funny thing about Sturgis, although people project huge numbers of infections, mostly on conjecture, actual contact tracing puts it around 400-500 with one death. Contact tracing here, from all that I've seen, has been very limited. I saw a study that put the numbers at 250K. And something sure as hell turned SD from having little infection to being the hotspot of the US right after Sturgis. And the whole Midwest went up in flames. If Trump could spread it at the WH with no masks, no social distancing, why not 200K bikers, drunk and stupid for ten days? Yeah I am sure all of those bikers were touring that meat packing plant that had the outbreak. The same thing happened last year with spring break. Our beach areas remained some of the lowest infection areas throughout the state, long after the breakers went back home. If you just looked at the stats, snowbird trailer parks were the worst places for covid. It will be interesting in 4 or 5 years when the hysteria and politics gets out of the picture just what the stats will say about the various lockdowns and mask rules had on the infection rates. It certainly appears the locked down places are not doing much better than the wide open ones right now. And yet each time restrictions have been put in place, it has resulted in an immediate and huge decline in new infections. I assume the vaccine will start showing up in the numbers soon. It has to be there now. Without it the numbers would be worse. Most of the geezers (65+) have it here now. They are lowering the age and opening up other categories who can get it. They have been doing medically vulnerable, medical workers and 1st responders all along. We also seem to have a lot of vaccine tourism. I could have had it 4 times here now. I haven't heard from any of them in about a week though, so I guess they must still have plenty of 65+ here to pick from. |
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12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On 25/03/2021 14:31, Scott Lurndal wrote:
writes: On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 11:25:49 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: I said Trump would be better off if he STFU and someone took his phone away many times but I guess you didn't notice. My concern was never with Trump being better off, but with America and the world being better off. Do you think half the country vilifying the president is good for the country? one reaps what one sows. +1 Trump was vilified for very obvious reasons. People around the world don't like or trust Trump. Here's why ... www.vox.com Ί conversations Ί america-donald-trump... 3 Jul 2017 People around the world don't like or trust Trump. ... It's especially pronounced among our allies in countries like Canada (-61), France (-70), ... the UK leader, Theresa May, didn't want Trump to visit for fear of mass protests. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 7:59:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:26:27 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: Contact tracing here, from all that I've seen, has been very limited. I saw a study that put the numbers at 250K. And something sure as hell turned SD from having little infection to being the hotspot of the US right after Sturgis. And the whole Midwest went up in flames. If Trump could spread it at the WH with no masks, no social distancing, why not 200K bikers, drunk and stupid for ten days? Yeah I am sure all of those bikers were touring that meat packing plant that had the outbreak. Are you really that stupid? Or is that the result of living in Florida? I'm sure all those bikers bought food and beer from the same places that the factory workers bought food. I'm sure they used the same grocery stores, bars and barber shops (well, maybe not _all_ the bikers). und so weiter. I'm sure the bikers went home and spread the virus every where they went subsequently. The problem with that is the packing plants where the outbreaks were are no where near Sturgis. The hot spots were in the SE corner of the state. The Black hills are on the other side of the state. Meade County is not even in the top 10 in October-November of 2020. I doubt those plant workers were driving 350 miles to get a beer and a hot dog. https://www.siouxlandproud.com/commu...-south-dakota/ OTOH a lot of those people may have stopped in Souix Falls and Souix City on their way home. (I-90 and I-29). Both were hot spots. How is it that you accept that meat packing plants with people in close quarters easily spread Covid, but 200K drunk bikers packing into bars and restaurants for ten days would not produce similar infections? The difference I see is that the meat plants were static and easy to trace back. Once they knew there were a few in the plants, they tested everyone. In Sturgis, people where from everywhere, staying in all kinds of places and they came and went. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On 3/25/2021 11:57 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 7:59:40 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:26:27 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: Contact tracing here, from all that I've seen, has been very limited. I saw a study that put the numbers at 250K. And something sure as hell turned SD from having little infection to being the hotspot of the US right after Sturgis. And the whole Midwest went up in flames. If Trump could spread it at the WH with no masks, no social distancing, why not 200K bikers, drunk and stupid for ten days? Yeah I am sure all of those bikers were touring that meat packing plant that had the outbreak. Are you really that stupid? Or is that the result of living in Florida? I'm sure all those bikers bought food and beer from the same places that the factory workers bought food. I'm sure they used the same grocery stores, bars and barber shops (well, maybe not _all_ the bikers). und so weiter. I'm sure the bikers went home and spread the virus every where they went subsequently. The problem with that is the packing plants where the outbreaks were are no where near Sturgis. The hot spots were in the SE corner of the state. The Black hills are on the other side of the state. Meade County is not even in the top 10 in October-November of 2020. I doubt those plant workers were driving 350 miles to get a beer and a hot dog. https://www.siouxlandproud.com/commu...-south-dakota/ OTOH a lot of those people may have stopped in Souix Falls and Souix City on their way home. (I-90 and I-29). Both were hot spots. How is it that you accept that meat packing plants with people in close quarters easily spread Covid, but 200K drunk bikers packing into bars and restaurants for ten days would not produce similar infections? The difference I see is that the meat plants were static and easy to trace back. Once they knew there were a few in the plants, they tested everyone. In Sturgis, people where from everywhere, staying in all kinds of places and they came and went. According to your logic, there should be 100,000 dead bikers and I could pick up a Harley cheap at an estate sale...but I can't. Maybe I can find a cheap Airstream? |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On 3/25/2021 11:53 AM, trader_4 wrote:
Trump vilified himself with all his lies and shytering, eg attacking our allies, praising Putin and KJU, saying there were very fine people on the side of the rally organized by white supremacists, with the KKK and Nazis. Did they conveniently lose Hunter's laptop yet? |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On 3/25/2021 12:42 PM, trader_4 wrote:
I do it is guys like Trader that won't let it go. It's not me that won't let it go. It's not like Trump behaved like al, l the previous presidents of the last century who left the stage and left the future of the party to others. Trump is the leader of the GOP and most of the party want more of him, they want his help in setting policy and campaigning. Seems extraordinarily stupid to me. You'd think they would accept that Trump was a disaster, that he resulted in the loss of the WH, House and Senate in just one term. But instead they believe the evil orange clown's lies that he won the election. So the dopes think that the problem wasn't Trump, it's that the election was stolen. They can't even see that if that were true, that the election was just stolen from Trump, then the GOP would not have lost the House and Senate. Somehow they accept those losses, even the loss of both Senate seats in GA, without claiming election fraud. Go figure. Trump still has a big fan club. He said he likes the uneducated and the uneducated continue to back him solidly. So in a congressional primary it is Joe Bigotry versus Sam Censibil, if Trump says he backs Joe Bigotry, he is in. MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 08:57:51 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 7:59:40 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:26:27 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: Contact tracing here, from all that I've seen, has been very limited. I saw a study that put the numbers at 250K. And something sure as hell turned SD from having little infection to being the hotspot of the US right after Sturgis. And the whole Midwest went up in flames. If Trump could spread it at the WH with no masks, no social distancing, why not 200K bikers, drunk and stupid for ten days? Yeah I am sure all of those bikers were touring that meat packing plant that had the outbreak. Are you really that stupid? Or is that the result of living in Florida? I'm sure all those bikers bought food and beer from the same places that the factory workers bought food. I'm sure they used the same grocery stores, bars and barber shops (well, maybe not _all_ the bikers). und so weiter. I'm sure the bikers went home and spread the virus every where they went subsequently. The problem with that is the packing plants where the outbreaks were are no where near Sturgis. The hot spots were in the SE corner of the state. The Black hills are on the other side of the state. Meade County is not even in the top 10 in October-November of 2020. I doubt those plant workers were driving 350 miles to get a beer and a hot dog. https://www.siouxlandproud.com/commu...-south-dakota/ OTOH a lot of those people may have stopped in Souix Falls and Souix City on their way home. (I-90 and I-29). Both were hot spots. How is it that you accept that meat packing plants with people in close quarters easily spread Covid, but 200K drunk bikers packing into bars and restaurants for ten days would not produce similar infections? The difference I see is that the meat plants were static and easy to trace back. Once they knew there were a few in the plants, they tested everyone. In Sturgis, people where from everywhere, staying in all kinds of places and they came and went. People in Sturgis were not sitting shoulder to shoulder for 8 to 10 hours straight. A lot of them did avoid crowds and didn't feel it necessary to jam into bars. They were also demographically less likely to have serious problems anyway. I am not sure how to say this in a way not to inflame the woke folks but people of color do not do as well as Europeans. The fact remains the hot spots in South Dakota were not in the west, they were in the east, 300 miles away. OTOH the bikers going east would likely have spent the first night on the road in one of those cities but we don't hear about a Souix City/Souix Falls super spreader. |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: It's not me that won't let it go. So you will be blaming Trump for Biden's failings for the next 4 years OK, thanks for the confirmation. BTW the press agrees with you. Trump's "cages" are now "pods" and there isn't any moral outrage about violating the 72 hour processing law. |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:15:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/25/2021 12:42 PM, trader_4 wrote: I do it is guys like Trader that won't let it go. It's not me that won't let it go. It's not like Trump behaved like al, l the previous presidents of the last century who left the stage and left the future of the party to others. Trump is the leader of the GOP and most of the party want more of him, they want his help in setting policy and campaigning. Seems extraordinarily stupid to me. You'd think they would accept that Trump was a disaster, that he resulted in the loss of the WH, House and Senate in just one term. But instead they believe the evil orange clown's lies that he won the election. So the dopes think that the problem wasn't Trump, it's that the election was stolen. They can't even see that if that were true, that the election was just stolen from Trump, then the GOP would not have lost the House and Senate. Somehow they accept those losses, even the loss of both Senate seats in GA, without claiming election fraud. Go figure. Trump still has a big fan club. He said he likes the uneducated and the uneducated continue to back him solidly. So in a congressional primary it is Joe Bigotry versus Sam Censibil, if Trump says he backs Joe Bigotry, he is in. MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? I suppose the problem is, anyone qualified, has no interest in being the president. You can be a mediocre CEO, make 10-20 times as much money and when you really screw the pooch, they give you millions to go. You are also somewhat anonymous. You can go to the Costco and you don't need bodyguards. |
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On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:15:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/25/2021 12:42 PM, trader_4 wrote: I do it is guys like Trader that won't let it go. It's not me that won't let it go. It's not like Trump behaved like al, l the previous presidents of the last century who left the stage and left the future of the party to others. Trump is the leader of the GOP and most of the party want more of him, they want his help in setting policy and campaigning. Seems extraordinarily stupid to me. You'd think they would accept that Trump was a disaster, that he resulted in the loss of the WH, House and Senate in just one term. But instead they believe the evil orange clown's lies that he won the election. So the dopes think that the problem wasn't Trump, it's that the election was stolen. They can't even see that if that were true, that the election was just stolen from Trump, then the GOP would not have lost the House and Senate. Somehow they accept those losses, even the loss of both Senate seats in GA, without claiming election fraud. Go figure. Trump still has a big fan club. He said he likes the uneducated and the uneducated continue to back him solidly. So in a congressional primary it is Joe Bigotry versus Sam Censibil, if Trump says he backs Joe Bigotry, he is in. MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. In fact he screwed up almost everything he got involved in, Iran/Contra, Beirut, Grenada etc etc etc. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? He ****ed up quite a bit too, most obviously with Vietnam and Iran. I suppose the problem is, anyone qualified, has no interest in being the president. That wasn't true of Eisenhower or FDR. You can be a mediocre CEO, make 10-20 times as much money and when you really screw the pooch, they give you millions to go. You are also somewhat anonymous. You can go to the Costco and you don't need bodyguards. |
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- John addressing the senile Australian pest: "You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL" MID: |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 8:11:29 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 9:42:18 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/23/2021 8:44 PM, wrote: Paul practiced ophthalmology for 18 years before becoming a senator for Kentucky in 2010. He also performed charity eye surgery since then as recently as 2019 in Kentucky. OTOH Fauci has just been an administrator at NIH for most of his career. So that qualifies Paul to be an expert in virology? To become a doctor in any field takes a lot of intelligence but that does not make him an expert in every field. What I was was a politician over talking the person that was trying to explain something. Not a medical professional, just another politician with big ego. Google for Dr. Tenpenny. She's a whack job doctor that's been an antivaxer for decades, now she's doubling down on it. She claims that anywhere from 42 days to 4 months after being vaccinated people are going to be getting sick and dying. I tried to watch one of her videos, too long and boring, would take an hour to get past the fluff. One thing that I did catch though was her saying that her parents were antivaxers, that she was not vaccinated and she thinks that's why she's lived so long. IDK how old she is, but she looks like she's in her 60s. With reasoning like that, ignoring that all the rest of us who were vaccinated are alive, you can begin to see the problems....... I remember when Trump sang her praises and wanted to enlist her as a cabinet member or some such high level job, til her wacky theories were profiled to much public consternation trump dump. that is what he is going to call his new social media platform, after all the employees he disposed of mk5000 I think, as most of us do, I put such high expectations on myself that this spills over onto other people. And not everyone is wired this way. Some people can shrug expectations off their shoulders like a cardigan, remaining cool and breezy. Others wear them like a parka with a stuck zipper, hot and stifling. Kristin Armstrong |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 8:13:59 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:14:13 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:04:07 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote: but if you put together a montage of everything Fauci has said over the last 14 months it would be a Saturday Night Live skit. More accurately, it would show us that this has been an evolving situation. They don't call it a novel coronavirus for no reason, right? Experts such as Fauci knew more 3 months in, then 6 months in, etc., than they/he knew in January 2020. I know evolving situations make you nervous, and that's OK. Life is an evolving situation. Please be thankful that most of us are able to deal with changing conditions, even if you find it difficult. I guess he doesn't understand "We don't know" is a better answer than bad guesses. Funny how you never applied that standard to Trump. In Trump's case, it would have been better to keep his mouth shut all together, instead of yapping and exposing himself again as a moron. Like when asking govt officials to try testing bleach to cleanse Covid from people's lungs. no way anything trump does will be free he had probably just bought stock in bleach that week mk5000 When I left 'Being Human,' that was painful because the show was going on without me. But with 'Him & Her,' we finished on such a high together that if it is the end, it couldn't have stopped at a better time. But I hope with 'Him & Her' that we'll get another crack of the whip: that the writer might change his mind and write some more. Russell Tovey |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:25:52 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:13:56 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 1:14:13 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:04:07 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote: but if you put together a montage of everything Fauci has said over the last 14 months it would be a Saturday Night Live skit. More accurately, it would show us that this has been an evolving situation. They don't call it a novel coronavirus for no reason, right? Experts such as Fauci knew more 3 months in, then 6 months in, etc., than they/he knew in January 2020. I know evolving situations make you nervous, and that's OK. Life is an evolving situation. Please be thankful that most of us are able to deal with changing conditions, even if you find it difficult. I guess he doesn't understand "We don't know" is a better answer than bad guesses. Funny how you never applied that standard to Trump. In Trump's case, it would have been better to keep his mouth shut all together, instead of yapping and exposing himself again as a moron. Like when asking govt officials to try testing bleach to cleanse Covid from people's lungs. I said Trump would be better off if he STFU and someone took his phone away many times but I guess you didn't notice. My concern was never with Trump being better off, but with America and the world being better off. but we are returning to the days of yore, as he is developing a social media platform freespace Thats the name of the (very small) app platform that already exists, that hes in talks with acquiring or merging or whatever. Hell change it. Gotta have the brand word trump in it. Like trump space. mk5000 When I call upon Your name The very atmosphere will have to change We'll be transformed We'll never be the same source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/k/kur...enslyrics.html |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. He also brought home an entire space program as a souvenir. |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it. Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time. Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down bridges. Imagine that. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 06:55:15 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:15:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/25/2021 12:42 PM, trader_4 wrote: I do it is guys like Trader that won't let it go. It's not me that won't let it go. It's not like Trump behaved like al, l the previous presidents of the last century who left the stage and left the future of the party to others. Trump is the leader of the GOP and most of the party want more of him, they want his help in setting policy and campaigning. Seems extraordinarily stupid to me. You'd think they would accept that Trump was a disaster, that he resulted in the loss of the WH, House and Senate in just one term. But instead they believe the evil orange clown's lies that he won the election. So the dopes think that the problem wasn't Trump, it's that the election was stolen. They can't even see that if that were true, that the election was just stolen from Trump, then the GOP would not have lost the House and Senate. Somehow they accept those losses, even the loss of both Senate seats in GA, without claiming election fraud. Go figure. Trump still has a big fan club. He said he likes the uneducated and the uneducated continue to back him solidly. So in a congressional primary it is Joe Bigotry versus Sam Censibil, if Trump says he backs Joe Bigotry, he is in. MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. In fact he screwed up almost everything he got involved in, Iran/Contra, Beirut, Grenada etc etc etc. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? He ****ed up quite a bit too, most obviously with Vietnam and Iran. His Shah managed to keep Iran chilled until Carter lost them. In Vietnam he was only using a small number of covert operators. It wasn't until JFK and LBJ that we actually put combat forces on the ground there. I suppose the problem is, anyone qualified, has no interest in being the president. That wasn't true of Eisenhower or FDR. That was then, this is now. It hasn't really been the same since they kicked out Nixon. Ford was a place holder, Carter was a joke and Reagan "acted" like he was a president. It went down hill from there. Just a series of Bush brothers, Trump and a generic "Not Trump". |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:58:34 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. He also brought home an entire space program as a souvenir. We got to the moon because we attracted a better group of nazis. As Von Braun said "I shoot for the stars but sometimes I hit London". |
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"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. Nope, he realised the problem in the USA well before that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inters...ystem#Planning He also brought home an entire space program as a souvenir. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it. That wasn't what he originally proposed funding wise and the decision to use a gas tax wasn't his alone either. Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time. Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down bridges. Imagine that. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 06:55:15 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:15:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/25/2021 12:42 PM, trader_4 wrote: I do it is guys like Trader that won't let it go. It's not me that won't let it go. It's not like Trump behaved like al, l the previous presidents of the last century who left the stage and left the future of the party to others. Trump is the leader of the GOP and most of the party want more of him, they want his help in setting policy and campaigning. Seems extraordinarily stupid to me. You'd think they would accept that Trump was a disaster, that he resulted in the loss of the WH, House and Senate in just one term. But instead they believe the evil orange clown's lies that he won the election. So the dopes think that the problem wasn't Trump, it's that the election was stolen. They can't even see that if that were true, that the election was just stolen from Trump, then the GOP would not have lost the House and Senate. Somehow they accept those losses, even the loss of both Senate seats in GA, without claiming election fraud. Go figure. Trump still has a big fan club. He said he likes the uneducated and the uneducated continue to back him solidly. So in a congressional primary it is Joe Bigotry versus Sam Censibil, if Trump says he backs Joe Bigotry, he is in. MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. In fact he screwed up almost everything he got involved in, Iran/Contra, Beirut, Grenada etc etc etc. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? He ****ed up quite a bit too, most obviously with Vietnam and Iran. His Shah managed to keep Iran chilled until Carter lost them. More utter mangling of what actually happened there. His Shah was never going to be viable for long. In Vietnam he was only using a small number of covert operators. Pity about his support for the French there. It wasn't until JFK and LBJ that we actually put combat forces on the ground there. Yes, but it was Ike's stupidity there than produced that. I suppose the problem is, anyone qualified, has no interest in being the president. That wasn't true of Eisenhower or FDR. That was then, this is now. It was like that for the whole of the last century. It hasn't really been the same since they kicked out Nixon. It wasn't the same since they kicked out Hoover either. Ford was a place holder, Carter was a joke and Reagan "acted" like he was a president. It went down hill from there. More mindless bull****. Just a series of Bush brothers, More mindless bull**** with slick alone. Trump and a generic "Not Trump". More mindless bull****. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:58:34 -0600, rbowman wrote: On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. He also brought home an entire space program as a souvenir. We got to the moon because we attracted a better group of nazis. Nope, just one. As Von Braun said "I shoot for the stars but sometimes I hit London". |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:45:27 +1100, "%%" wrote:
Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. Nope, he realised the problem in the USA well before that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inters...ystem#Planning Everyone who was ever in a car knew the problem Ike saw the answer in Germany. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:01:36 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 06:55:15 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:15:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/25/2021 12:42 PM, trader_4 wrote: I do it is guys like Trader that won't let it go. It's not me that won't let it go. It's not like Trump behaved like al, l the previous presidents of the last century who left the stage and left the future of the party to others. Trump is the leader of the GOP and most of the party want more of him, they want his help in setting policy and campaigning. Seems extraordinarily stupid to me. You'd think they would accept that Trump was a disaster, that he resulted in the loss of the WH, House and Senate in just one term. But instead they believe the evil orange clown's lies that he won the election. So the dopes think that the problem wasn't Trump, it's that the election was stolen. They can't even see that if that were true, that the election was just stolen from Trump, then the GOP would not have lost the House and Senate. Somehow they accept those losses, even the loss of both Senate seats in GA, without claiming election fraud. Go figure. Trump still has a big fan club. He said he likes the uneducated and the uneducated continue to back him solidly. So in a congressional primary it is Joe Bigotry versus Sam Censibil, if Trump says he backs Joe Bigotry, he is in. MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. In fact he screwed up almost everything he got involved in, Iran/Contra, Beirut, Grenada etc etc etc. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? He ****ed up quite a bit too, most obviously with Vietnam and Iran. His Shah managed to keep Iran chilled until Carter lost them. More utter mangling of what actually happened there. His Shah was never going to be viable for long. We would have just propped up another US friendly dictator and had the ayatollah meet a tragic demise with Ike, JFK, LBJ or Nixon. There were plenty of Iranians who didn't want a fundamentalist government and a lot of them bailed out and came here when it was clear that was happening. In Vietnam he was only using a small number of covert operators. Pity about his support for the French there. He also let the French get kicked out and we did not do much to stop it. They just hoped they could keep a US friendly government there but Ike and JFK really didn't have the stomach for what LBJ did. It wasn't until JFK and LBJ that we actually put combat forces on the ground there. Yes, but it was Ike's stupidity there than produced that. What was that? Just a series of Bush brothers, More mindless bull**** with slick alone. Billy calls himself the 4th Bush brother and his policies were essentially the same as Daddy Bush, followed by Baby Bush and the tan Bush brother. They had a lot of the same people throughout that whole time and certainly the foreign policies were the same. Trump and a generic "Not Trump". More mindless bull****. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:03:03 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:58:34 -0600, rbowman wrote: On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. He also brought home an entire space program as a souvenir. We got to the moon because we attracted a better group of nazis. Nope, just one. Actually we took his whole team Werner was just the publicity hog. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:45:27 +1100, "%%" wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. Nope, he realised the problem in the USA well before that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inters...ystem#Planning Everyone who was ever in a car knew the problem Yes. Ike saw the answer in Germany. Nope, he saw the answer long before that in the USA as that article points out long before there were any autobahn in germany. The USA never had anything like the german autobahn system. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:03:03 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:58:34 -0600, rbowman wrote: On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. He also brought home an entire space program as a souvenir. We got to the moon because we attracted a better group of nazis. Nope, just one. Actually we took his whole team Yes. Werner was just the publicity hog. It wasn't about publicity. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it. Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time. Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down bridges. Imagine that. It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:03:03 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: We got to the moon because we attracted a better group of nazis. Nope, just one. ****, you ARE clinically insane, senile sociopath! -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: Nope Clinically insane trolling senile asshole! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On 03/25/2021 09:45 PM, %% wrote:
"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was vacationing in Germany. Nope, he realised the problem in the USA well before that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inters...ystem#Planning "Eisenhower also gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system, the first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn network, as a necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe during World War II" My family and I drove from New York State to Seattle in 1952, for the most part on the Lincoln Highway. It was a little better than Eisenhower's experience but not much. Coming back on 66 was a bit different. |
12 important questions and answers before considering vaccination
On 03/26/2021 03:51 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote: Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him? In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway system, desegregation, and Earl Warren. Cindy Hamilton The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it. Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time. Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down bridges. Imagine that. It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance. Cindy Hamilton When the New York State Thruway was being constructed, it was only going to be a toll road until the construction costs were paid off. Yeah, sure. |
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