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senator cotton not a ranger
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/
Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. He's probably counting on these two rules of politics: 1. No one will ever find out. 2. If they do find out, no one will care. I care and I think it's pretty shameful. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL |
senator cotton not a ranger
On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote:
On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg |
senator cotton not a ranger
On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote:
On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky
wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. |
senator cotton not a ranger
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F
wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL You must be laughing at yourself, because you look ridiculous. Lots of Ph.D.s in education use their title when they've earned a doctorate, regardless of what some lying idiots have told you. Our new principal when I was in high school way back in 1962 was Dr. Schwilk. If you go to high school some day, you may meet someone like him. Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg When she told it it was probably funny. She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . Children. What can you do? |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:01:08 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:24:44 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. I don't think Cotton is under the impression that he's in a movie. Are you sure? |
senator cotton not a ranger
On 1/27/2021 9:29 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? She has earned the title of Doctor clueless one. |
senator cotton not a ranger
writes:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... |
senator cotton not a ranger
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT,
(Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... I didn't understand that either. I guess GF is saying that if someone playing a role in a movie wears something on his uniform that his character may or may not deserve, then Cotton and Messner may lie about their service in real life, and there's nothing wrong with their lying. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:31:46 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 1/27/2021 9:29 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? She has earned the title of Doctor clueless one. So did Ted, Dr of Mathematics. That is probably more relevant to the real world that a doctor of education but since they buy what they sell, as long as she keeps working for the school system she makes more money. We have a bunch "doctors" in our school system but that doesn't necessarily make them better teachers. It just means they exploited the tuition refund system and kept going back to the well. Pay is based on education, not performance. Nothing in the union dominated school system seems to be based on performance. That is why, anyone who can afford it, sends their kids to private school. Biden's sons went to Archmere Academy in Delaware. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... Sorry you are right, bad example. Just pointing out qualifying to be a Ranger, SEAL or Marine Force Recon does not mean that is where you serve. You can still say you have that qualification. Jesse Ventura is an example. He went through BUD/S training and can call himself a SEAL but he didn't serve in a SEAL team in Vietnam. |
senator cotton not a ranger
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:41:26 -0500,
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. ================================================== ===================== Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... Sorry you are right, bad example. Just pointing out qualifying to be a Ranger, SEAL or Marine Force Recon does not mean that is where you serve. That's right, but I already brought that up. See the underlined sentence above. You can still say you have that qualification. That's right, but Cotton and Mesner didn't just say they were ranger-qualified, they said they were rangers. Jesse Ventura is an example. He went through BUD/S training and can call himself a SEAL but he didn't serve in a SEAL team in Vietnam. Did he serve in a SEAL team anywhere else? Did he ever call himself a SEAL? Are the rules the same for rangers and Seals. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:26:23 -0500, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... I didn't understand that either. I guess GF is saying that if someone playing a role in a movie wears something on his uniform that his character may or may not deserve, then Cotton and Messner may lie about their service in real life, and there's nothing wrong with their lying. That makes three of us who didn't understand his movie reference. Four, if you count the guy who originally made the reference. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:41:26 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... Sorry you are right, bad example. Just pointing out qualifying to be a Ranger, SEAL or Marine Force Recon does not mean that is where you serve. You can still say you have that qualification. And like Mickey pointed out, that's where the problem lies. Cotton is Ranger qualified, no one disputes that, but he never served as a Ranger. Thus, he's not entitled to say, as he did in numerous political ads, that he served as a Ranger when he didn't. If he had said Ranger qualified, and left it at that, this would be a nothingburger. The only question remaining is why did he feel he had to embellish his service record, and why hasn't he apologized and cleared up the confusion? He already had a very good service record. There was no need to pile on. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:24:22 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:31:46 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 9:29 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? She has earned the title of Doctor clueless one. So did Ted, Dr of Mathematics. That is probably more relevant to the real world that a doctor of education but since they buy what they sell, as long as she keeps working for the school system she makes more money. We have a bunch "doctors" in our school system but that doesn't necessarily make them better teachers. It just means they exploited the tuition refund system and kept going back to the well. Pay is based on education, not performance. Nothing in the union dominated school system seems to be based on performance. That is why, anyone who can afford it, sends their kids to private school. Biden's sons went to Archmere Academy in Delaware. *WHOOSH!* The point went right over your head. I'll type slowly. People who earn a Doctorate are entitled to be called Doctor. Thus, Jill Biden is entitled to be called Doctor Biden. I think I was 5 or 6 when I realized that not all doctors are medical doctors. I was slow and grew up in a small town that didn't have any doctors. Anyway, I guess some people go well into old age without picking that up. Then they make themselves look foolish by talking about better teachers, unions, pay, etc. Pretty amazing. |
senator cotton not a ranger
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:52:09 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:24:22 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:31:46 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 9:29 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? This is all irrelevant to Jill Biden, but I'll play. Kaczynski could have used the title of Dr. if wanted to, but he wasn't using his name at all, until he got caught. She has earned the title of Doctor clueless one. So did Ted, Dr of Mathematics. That is probably more relevant to the real world that a doctor of The real world that he lived in was the court room, where I'm sure his lawyer told him not to use it. If he even wanted to. His life was devoted to bombs, not math. BTW, where I went to college, everyone teacher and teaching assistant had a PhD. Mrs. Strauss said you can call me Dr. Strauss, Professor Strauss, or Mrs. Strauss. I and afaik everyone else used the last, as we did for other course. Mr. Smith, etc. But I'm pretty sure when they left campus to make a speech or write a book, every one of them was Dr. Smith or Joe Smith Ph.D. education but since they buy what they sell, as long as she keeps working for the school system she makes more money. We have a bunch "doctors" in our school system but that doesn't necessarily make them better teachers. It just means they exploited the tuition refund system and kept going back to the well. Pay is based on education, not performance. Nothing in the union dominated school system seems to be based on performance. That is why, anyone who can afford it, sends their kids to private school. Biden's sons went to Archmere Academy in Delaware. *WHOOSH!* The point went right over your head. I'll type slowly. People who earn a Doctorate are entitled to be called Doctor. Thus, Jill Biden is entitled to be called Doctor Biden. Right. I think I was 5 or 6 when I realized that not all doctors are medical My father was called doctor but he was medical, a Doctor of Dental Surgery, and I knew that when I was 5 or 6, but I might have been in highschool** before I realized not all doctors are medical doctors. So I guess I'm slower than you are. **At the latest when I was a junior they announced the hire for the next year of Dr. so and so to be the new principal. doctors. I was slow and grew up in a small town that didn't have any doctors. Anyway, I guess some people go well into old age without picking that up. Then they make themselves look foolish by talking about better teachers, unions, pay, etc. Pretty amazing. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 21:25:15 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:41:26 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. ================================================= ====================== Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... Sorry you are right, bad example. Just pointing out qualifying to be a Ranger, SEAL or Marine Force Recon does not mean that is where you serve. That's right, but I already brought that up. See the underlined sentence above. You can still say you have that qualification. That's right, but Cotton and Mesner didn't just say they were ranger-qualified, they said they were rangers. Jesse Ventura is an example. He went through BUD/S training and can call himself a SEAL but he didn't serve in a SEAL team in Vietnam. Did he serve in a SEAL team anywhere else? Did he ever call himself a SEAL? Are the rules the same for rangers and Seals. Ventura called himself a SEAL his whole career, show biz and political. Technically he can because he went through BUDS/S and got his pin. He still never served on a SEAL team. He was UDT in Vietnam. Cotton did pretty much the same thing. If he has the training and the patch, he is a Ranger. He just never served in a Ranger battalion when he was in Afghanistan. It is really a distinction without a difference, sort of like Gore saying he was a soldier in Vietnam when he really just worked in the Stars and Stripes newspaper office for a few months there. He was a senator's son, treated more like Bob Hope than the guys who got drafted and handed an M-16. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:56:36 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:26:23 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... I didn't understand that either. I guess GF is saying that if someone playing a role in a movie wears something on his uniform that his character may or may not deserve, then Cotton and Messner may lie about their service in real life, and there's nothing wrong with their lying. That makes three of us who didn't understand his movie reference. Four, if you count the guy who originally made the reference. I admitted the movie reference was wrong, let it go. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:46:15 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:41:26 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... Sorry you are right, bad example. Just pointing out qualifying to be a Ranger, SEAL or Marine Force Recon does not mean that is where you serve. You can still say you have that qualification. And like Mickey pointed out, that's where the problem lies. Cotton is Ranger qualified, no one disputes that, but he never served as a Ranger. Thus, he's not entitled to say, as he did in numerous political ads, that he served as a Ranger when he didn't. If he had said Ranger qualified, and left it at that, this would be a nothingburger. The only question remaining is why did he feel he had to embellish his service record, and why hasn't he apologized and cleared up the confusion? He already had a very good service record. There was no need to pile on. The way I understand it, if they let you wear the insignia, that is who you are. I was an FT, I went to school and had the crow but I never touched a piece of fire control equipment in 6 years. I was a gunners mate/ torpedo man in reality but in the twisted logic of the military I was an FT no matter what they had me doing. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:52:09 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:24:22 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:31:46 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 9:29 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? She has earned the title of Doctor clueless one. So did Ted, Dr of Mathematics. That is probably more relevant to the real world that a doctor of education but since they buy what they sell, as long as she keeps working for the school system she makes more money. We have a bunch "doctors" in our school system but that doesn't necessarily make them better teachers. It just means they exploited the tuition refund system and kept going back to the well. Pay is based on education, not performance. Nothing in the union dominated school system seems to be based on performance. That is why, anyone who can afford it, sends their kids to private school. Biden's sons went to Archmere Academy in Delaware. *WHOOSH!* The point went right over your head. I'll type slowly. People who earn a Doctorate are entitled to be called Doctor. Thus, Jill Biden is entitled to be called Doctor Biden. So was Doctor Kaczynski |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:44:35 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:52:09 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:24:22 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:31:46 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 9:29 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? She has earned the title of Doctor clueless one. So did Ted, Dr of Mathematics. That is probably more relevant to the real world that a doctor of education but since they buy what they sell, as long as she keeps working for the school system she makes more money. We have a bunch "doctors" in our school system but that doesn't necessarily make them better teachers. It just means they exploited the tuition refund system and kept going back to the well. Pay is based on education, not performance. Nothing in the union dominated school system seems to be based on performance. That is why, anyone who can afford it, sends their kids to private school. Biden's sons went to Archmere Academy in Delaware. *WHOOSH!* The point went right over your head. I'll type slowly. People who earn a Doctorate are entitled to be called Doctor. Thus, Jill Biden is entitled to be called Doctor Biden. So was Doctor Kaczynski I don't see him walking around in the WH, so what's your point? Try to focus, please. People are starting to worry about you. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 22:38:14 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 21:25:15 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:41:26 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:28:02 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. ================================================ ======================= Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. WTF does Tom Hanks have to do with anything? You do understand the concept of Fiction vs. reality, right? Perhaps not, given your postings here... Sorry you are right, bad example. Just pointing out qualifying to be a Ranger, SEAL or Marine Force Recon does not mean that is where you serve. That's right, but I already brought that up. See the underlined sentence above. You can still say you have that qualification. That's right, but Cotton and Mesner didn't just say they were ranger-qualified, they said they were rangers. Jesse Ventura is an example. He went through BUD/S training and can call himself a SEAL but he didn't serve in a SEAL team in Vietnam. Did he serve in a SEAL team anywhere else? Did he ever call himself a SEAL? Are the rules the same for rangers and Seals. Ventura called himself a SEAL his whole career, show biz and political. Technically he can because he went through BUDS/S and got his pin. He still never served on a SEAL team. He was UDT in Vietnam. I don't really care about Ventura's ancient history. This is about Cotton. Cotton did pretty much the same thing. If he has the training and the patch, he is a Ranger. Your opinion is noted, but it's incorrect. If he has the training and the patch, he is "Ranger qualified". If and when he serves in a Ranger unit, only then does he become a "Ranger". That never happened, thus his status is "Ranger qualified" and not "Ranger". That's not my opinion. That's the read out from multiple high ranking military officials. You've cut your cord but you can still Google it if you're confused. He just never served in a Ranger battalion when he was in Afghanistan. He never served in a Ranger unit, period. Thus, he remained "Ranger qualified" and not "Ranger". It is really a distinction without a difference, sort of like Gore saying he was a soldier in Vietnam when he really just worked in the Stars and Stripes newspaper office for a few months there. He was a senator's son, treated more like Bob Hope than the guys who got drafted and handed an M-16. Once again with the ancient history. As mentioned above, your opinion is noted but it's incorrect. Just because you don't understand the difference doesn't mean there is no difference. I may not agree with his politics, but Cotton has a very respectable military service record. He didn't need to puff it up. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky posted for all of us to digest... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Quoting these sources hasn't convinced me. Give me some that are impartial not left/right leaning, which these are not. -- Tekkie |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:24:22 -0500, posted for all of us to digest... On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 21:31:46 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 9:29 PM, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:59:10 -0800, Bob F wrote: On 1/27/2021 4:02 PM, Frank wrote: On 1/27/2021 6:33 PM, apollo wrote: On 1/27/21 3:40 PM, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Did you forget about Dr. Jill already? LOL Whoopee Goldberg had said Dr. Biden would make a good surgeon general. https://www.air.tv/watch?v=DMe7SW5OSj6dMJmkua8nvg She still has a doctorate degree. Live with it . So did Ted Kaczynski, what's your point? She has earned the title of Doctor clueless one. So did Ted, Dr of Mathematics. That is probably more relevant to the real world that a doctor of education but since they buy what they sell, as long as she keeps working for the school system she makes more money. We have a bunch "doctors" in our school system but that doesn't necessarily make them better teachers. It just means they exploited the tuition refund system and kept going back to the well. Pay is based on education, not performance. Nothing in the union dominated school system seems to be based on performance. That is why, anyone who can afford it, sends their kids to private school. Biden's sons went to Archmere Academy in Delaware. Having worked in the educational system for 20+ years everything stated here is correct. More degrees = more money. More degrees are paid by the system. Finally after they degree up and become a doktor they run the system. At this point, they are real politicians because they have to cater to both the school board and the teachers union. When I first started I had great respect for the superintendent he worked for the kids and built a reputation that caused the "golden" districts to fight to hire him. Two before retiring. He got national awards for the district. The successive supers weren't the same caliber and they would retire at the end of their term. All the outstanding people the super had mentored flew the coup to more success. The drones stayed on and I kept my head down because I wasn't union and I wanted the retirement. They had enough scandals that they weren't interested in me. -- Tekkie |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:52:09 -0600, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest... . I was slow and grew up in a small town that didn't have any doctors. So you are saying you are developmentally disabled but have never had proper treatment? That explains a lot. No shame. We'll try to help you. -- Tekkie |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:41:56 -0500, micky posted for all of us to digest... My father was called doctor but he was medical, a Doctor of Dental Surgery, and I knew that when I was 5 or 6, but I might have been in highschool** before I realized not all doctors are medical doctors. So I guess I'm slower than you are. So you have a great set of choppers? =) I read somewhere that dentists had the highest suicide rate.=( In my mind dentists rate pretty low in the pain scale. Everybody is lower than someone else and conversely faster than somewhere else, just depends what area. -- Tekkie |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 00:30:27 -0500, posted for all of us to digest... On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:01:08 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:24:44 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky wrote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Like Tom Hanks. He wears a Ranger tab on his uniform in the movie but that is not a Ranger unit. I don't think Cotton is under the impression that he's in a movie. Are you sure? Circus? -- Tekkie |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 16:57:03 -0500, Tekkie© wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:41:56 -0500, micky posted for all of us to digest... My father was called doctor but he was medical, a Doctor of Dental Surgery, and I knew that when I was 5 or 6, but I might have been in highschool** before I realized not all doctors are medical doctors. So I guess I'm slower than you are. So you have a great set of choppers? =) I read somewhere that dentists had the highest suicide rate.=( In my mind dentists rate pretty low in the pain scale. Everybody is lower than someone else and conversely faster than somewhere else, just depends what area. We were partying with a dentist at a Willie concert and he said Nitrous Oxide was the dentist's method of choice when they off themselves. That sounded interesting. Die laughing. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 16:10:49 -0500, Tekkie© wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky posted for all of us to digest... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Quoting these sources hasn't convinced me. Give me some that are impartial not left/right leaning, which these are not. By Joyce's rule, Fauci is "Doctor qualified" but not a real doctor because he never practiced medicine. He was always a researcher. |
senator cotton not a ranger
On 2/1/2021 6:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 16:10:49 -0500, Tekkie© wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:40:24 -0500, micky posted for all of us to digest... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/to...n-army-ranger/ Same thing with Corky Messner, another Republican. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ger-qualified/ You and I might not have known the difference between a Ranger and Ranger-qualified, but they surely did. Don't know about Messner, but Cotton had honorable service in a combat zone, so why did he feel the need to lie. Quoting these sources hasn't convinced me. Give me some that are impartial not left/right leaning, which these are not. By Joyce's rule, Fauci is "Doctor qualified" but not a real doctor because he never practiced medicine. He was always a researcher. You say that like it is a bad thing. |
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