In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:56:30 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:39 -0500, micky wrote:

y/jV6w4mX

Hi micky,

Would you kindly stop posting your infantile politics to the repair ng?

You ddin't even look, did you. It wasn't politics. It was home repair.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jV6w4mX

STOP TROLLING. It makes you look like a hyprocrite.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:45:41 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:56:30 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:39 -0500, micky wrote:

y/jV6w4mX

Hi micky,

Would you kindly stop posting your infantile politics to the repair ng?

You ddin't even look, did you. It wasn't politics. It was home repair.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jV6w4mX

I've been toying with the idea of building an enclosure like that and
putting canned goods inside, such as soup and veggies, maybe some Ramen
noodles, etc. I'd add a sign that says, "Take what you need, give what you
can". My neighborhood is fairly small, only about 90 houses, so I'm not
sure there's a real need here. Down in the city, though, my wife volunteers
at a Catholic church where they hand out free meals to needy people. She
says there's a steady stream of people, from opening to closing time, so at
least down there they have a need.

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:02:22 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:45:41 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:56:30 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:39 -0500, micky wrote:

y/jV6w4mX

Hi micky,

Would you kindly stop posting your infantile politics to the repair ng?

You ddin't even look, did you. It wasn't politics. It was home repair.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jV6w4mX

I've been toying with the idea of building an enclosure like that and
putting canned goods inside, such as soup and veggies, maybe some Ramen
noodles, etc.

What a coincidence. I've been buying Cup Noodles, but I mistook the
wrapper for 6 and when I opened it yesterday, I ended up with 12 Ramen
noodles in cellophane. I ate one but didn't like it as much and I was
trying to figure out where I could get rid of the other 11.

I'd add a sign that says, "Take what you need, give what you
can". My neighborhood is fairly small, only about 90 houses, so I'm not
sure there's a real need here. Down in the city, though, my wife volunteers

It's hard to give away food. A lot of people feel insulted to take it,
even though we all eat food, and they're doing me a favor. Maybe some
feel, If you don't like it, why would I? but I think that's less common
than being insulted, or if not exactly that, not wanting to look, I
don't know, poor? by taking it.

at a Catholic church where they hand out free meals to needy people. She
says there's a steady stream of people, from opening to closing time, so at
least down there they have a need.

That sounds like the right place.

People who send food to hurricane zones, etc. and expect it to get
shipped are aiui doing no favors, when what they really need is money to
buy food that is already there.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:32:10 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:02:22 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:45:41 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:56:30 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:39 -0500, micky wrote:

y/jV6w4mX

Hi micky,

Would you kindly stop posting your infantile politics to the repair ng?

You ddin't even look, did you. It wasn't politics. It was home repair.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jV6w4mX

I've been toying with the idea of building an enclosure like that and
putting canned goods inside, such as soup and veggies, maybe some Ramen
noodles, etc.

What a coincidence. I've been buying Cup Noodles, but I mistook the
wrapper for 6 and when I opened it yesterday, I ended up with 12 Ramen
noodles in cellophane. I ate one but didn't like it as much and I was
trying to figure out where I could get rid of the other 11.

I'd add a sign that says, "Take what you need, give what you
can". My neighborhood is fairly small, only about 90 houses, so I'm not
sure there's a real need here. Down in the city, though, my wife volunteers

It's hard to give away food. A lot of people feel insulted to take it,
even though we all eat food, and they're doing me a favor. Maybe some
feel, If you don't like it, why would I? but I think that's less common
than being insulted, or if not exactly that, not wanting to look, I
don't know, poor? by taking it.

I have to disagree. Under the right circumstances, it's way too easy to
give away food. Food insecurity is a huge problem in this country. When I
lived in San Antonio, they did a local TV piece about a couple of
neighborhoods where people put canned goods out by the sidewalk, in one of
those cabinet things. At first, they said the food simply disappeared
overnight, but over time it became a case where random people were putting
food back into the box, so it mostly sustained itself and they only
occasionally had to replenish it. One of those neighborhoods was just
across the valley from my house.

In my neighborhood, someone put a cabinet on a picnic table in the picnic
area of our development. He initially stocked it with children's books, but
it quickly grew to have any kind of books and some magazines. People
figured out the concept really quickly. You can take books or you can bring
books, or you can do both. Every week or two the titles completely turned
over.

at a Catholic church where they hand out free meals to needy people. She
says there's a steady stream of people, from opening to closing time, so at
least down there they have a need.

That sounds like the right place.

People who send food to hurricane zones, etc. and expect it to get
shipped are aiui doing no favors, when what they really need is money to
buy food that is already there.

It depends on the specific situation. If a major storm wipes out most of
the local food and supplies, authorities will sometimes ask for donations
of food and supplies versus cash.

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 20:58:09 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:32:10 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:02:22 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:45:41 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:56:30 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:39 -0500, micky wrote:

y/jV6w4mX

Hi micky,

Would you kindly stop posting your infantile politics to the repair ng?

You ddin't even look, did you. It wasn't politics. It was home repair.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jV6w4mX

I've been toying with the idea of building an enclosure like that and
putting canned goods inside, such as soup and veggies, maybe some Ramen
noodles, etc.

What a coincidence. I've been buying Cup Noodles, but I mistook the
wrapper for 6 and when I opened it yesterday, I ended up with 12 Ramen
noodles in cellophane. I ate one but didn't like it as much and I was
trying to figure out where I could get rid of the other 11.

I'd add a sign that says, "Take what you need, give what you
can". My neighborhood is fairly small, only about 90 houses, so I'm not
sure there's a real need here. Down in the city, though, my wife volunteers

It's hard to give away food. A lot of people feel insulted to take it,

My examples come from going door to door in my n'hood. So I meant
giving it to people who were not hungry, but are as likely as anyone to
enjoy the food I wanted to give them. It's hard to give them food. I
don't try anymore.

I am friends with one family where they seem to be happy to take food
I've bought by mistake, even once when it was open, a half gallon of
non-alcoholic sangria. Lots of people like sangria and I thought I'd
give it another try, but I still don't.

even though we all eat food, and they're doing me a favor. Maybe some
feel, If you don't like it, why would I? but I think that's less common
than being insulted, or if not exactly that, not wanting to look, I
don't know, poor? by taking it.

I have to disagree. Under the right circumstances, it's way too easy to
give away food. Food insecurity is a huge problem in this country. When I

I know.

lived in San Antonio, they did a local TV piece about a couple of
neighborhoods where people put canned goods out by the sidewalk, in one of
those cabinet things. At first, they said the food simply disappeared
overnight, but over time it became a case where random people were putting
food back into the box, so it mostly sustained itself and they only
occasionally had to replenish it. One of those neighborhoods was just
across the valley from my house.

That's very good. Maybe the difference was that they didn't have to
talk to anyone face to face.

A valley can make a big difference. One block can make a big
difference.

In my neighborhood, someone put a cabinet on a picnic table in the picnic
area of our development. He initially stocked it with children's books, but
it quickly grew to have any kind of books and some magazines. People
figured out the concept really quickly. You can take books or you can bring
books, or you can do both. Every week or two the titles completely turned
over.

Books are different. I've seen a couple of those book things in
Baltimore and more elsewhere.

at a Catholic church where they hand out free meals to needy people. She
says there's a steady stream of people, from opening to closing time, so at
least down there they have a need.

That sounds like the right place.

People who send food to hurricane zones, etc. and expect it to get
shipped are aiui doing no favors, when what they really need is money to
buy food that is already there.

It depends on the specific situation. If a major storm wipes out most of
the local food and supplies, authorities will sometimes ask for donations
of food and supplies versus cash.

I haven't notice that, maybe because I'm too far from most hurricanes,
but I'm sure you're right.

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:32:10 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:02:22 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:45:41 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:56:30 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:39 -0500, micky wrote:

y/jV6w4mX

Hi micky,

Would you kindly stop posting your infantile politics to the repair ng?

You ddin't even look, did you. It wasn't politics. It was home repair.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jV6w4mX

I've been toying with the idea of building an enclosure like that and
putting canned goods inside, such as soup and veggies, maybe some Ramen
noodles, etc.

What a coincidence. I've been buying Cup Noodles, but I mistook the
wrapper for 6 and when I opened it yesterday, I ended up with 12 Ramen
noodles in cellophane. I ate one but didn't like it as much and I was
trying to figure out where I could get rid of the other 11.

I'd add a sign that says, "Take what you need, give what you
can". My neighborhood is fairly small, only about 90 houses, so I'm not
sure there's a real need here. Down in the city, though, my wife volunteers

It's hard to give away food. A lot of people feel insulted to take it,
even though we all eat food, and they're doing me a favor. Maybe some
feel, If you don't like it, why would I? but I think that's less common
than being insulted, or if not exactly that, not wanting to look, I
don't know, poor? by taking it.

at a Catholic church where they hand out free meals to needy people. She
says there's a steady stream of people, from opening to closing time, so at
least down there they have a need.

That sounds like the right place.

People who send food to hurricane zones, etc. and expect it to get
shipped are aiui doing no favors, when what they really need is money to
buy food that is already there.


That depends a LOT on circumstances. If for instance a small or island
nation is hit HARD by a hurricane, there is often nothing available to
buy locally. WHether food or supplies of other types. In these cases
"material aid" is pretty much required. If the disaster is localized,
and particularly long term, material aid can often cause more problems
by eliminating the market for locally produced/available goods.

My daughter is very heavily and deeply involved in foreighn aid and
international development and the dumping of (particularly
inappeopriate) food and used clothing into African countries with
agricultural and textile industries often causes economic disaster.

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 20 Dec 2020 00:49:46 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:32:10 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 12:02:22 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:45:41 -0500, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:56:30 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:39 -0500, micky wrote:

y/jV6w4mX

Hi micky,

Would you kindly stop posting your infantile politics to the repair ng?

You ddin't even look, did you. It wasn't politics. It was home repair.

https://imgur.com/gallery/jV6w4mX

I've been toying with the idea of building an enclosure like that and
putting canned goods inside, such as soup and veggies, maybe some Ramen
noodles, etc.

What a coincidence. I've been buying Cup Noodles, but I mistook the
wrapper for 6 and when I opened it yesterday, I ended up with 12 Ramen
noodles in cellophane. I ate one but didn't like it as much and I was
trying to figure out where I could get rid of the other 11.

I'd add a sign that says, "Take what you need, give what you
can". My neighborhood is fairly small, only about 90 houses, so I'm not
sure there's a real need here. Down in the city, though, my wife volunteers

It's hard to give away food. A lot of people feel insulted to take it,
even though we all eat food, and they're doing me a favor. Maybe some
feel, If you don't like it, why would I? but I think that's less common
than being insulted, or if not exactly that, not wanting to look, I
don't know, poor? by taking it.

at a Catholic church where they hand out free meals to needy people. She
says there's a steady stream of people, from opening to closing time, so at
least down there they have a need.

That sounds like the right place.

People who send food to hurricane zones, etc. and expect it to get
shipped are aiui doing no favors, when what they really need is money to
buy food that is already there.


That depends a LOT on circumstances. If for instance a small or island
nation is hit HARD by a hurricane, there is often nothing available to
buy locally. WHether food or supplies of other types. In these cases
"material aid" is pretty much required. If the disaster is localized,
and particularly long term, material aid can often cause more problems
by eliminating the market for locally produced/available goods.

My daughter is very heavily and deeply involved in foreighn aid and
international development and the dumping of (particularly
inappeopriate) food and used clothing into African countries with
agricultural and textile industries often causes economic disaster.

I myself know no examples of this, but food companies get a tax
deduction for donating food, maybe if a food doesn't sell well and they
decide to stop making it. The IRS doesn't know if it caused economic
trouble in the country where it was donated, and even if someone told
them, the food company would say that's not an exception and it would
take a court case to try to show that donating food to people whose
income is below $nnnn is not deductable just becaue it damages the
agricultural sector.