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Hi All,
Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire? Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire? Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... -- Tekkie |
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On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire? Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir. Supposed to last 75,000 miles. $99 Rated 60 The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season. Expected thread life 80,000 miles $115 Rated 58 They also rated ultra high performance all season tires. This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use |
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On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 4:36:47 PM UTC-5, Tekkie© wrote:
On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire? Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... -- Tekkie +1 It shows the faulty logic of where Mr. T gets his advice to form opinions. Google broken again? |
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On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115Â*Â*Â* Rated 58 Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise. I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. |
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On 11/12/20 6:05 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â*Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115Â*Â*Â* Rated 58 Â*Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â*Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.Â* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. The Toyo is rated very good for noise. The Good Year Eagle Sport All Season is rated excellent for noise. The General is rated very good for noise. |
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On 2020-11-12 16:26, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/12/20 6:05 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â*Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115Â*Â*Â* Rated 58 Â*Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â*Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.Â* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* The Toyo is rated very good for noise. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* The Good Year Eagle Sport All Season is rated excellent for noise. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* The General is rated very good for noise. Thank you! |
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On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote:
On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115Â*Â*Â* Rated 58 Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise. I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage.. |
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On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115Â*Â*Â* Rated 58 Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise. I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 05:42:12 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie? wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... **** Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.** Supposed to last 75,000 miles.* $99* Rated 60 *The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.* Expected thread life 80,000 miles*** $115*** Rated 58 *They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 * Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise. I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I had a wheel bearing changed under warranty once, but I consider that an exception. No one I know changes wheel bearings unless they fail. |
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On 2020-11-13 09:52, Bob F wrote:
On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â* Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â* Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115 Rated 58 Â* Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.Â* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. Damned thing do still work. They just get LOUD at high speed as they age. Subaru recommends your change them at 120K miles. I can't understand someone talking to me in the passenger seat at 55 MPH. |
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On 11/13/2020 3:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-11-13 09:52, Bob F wrote: On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â* Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â* Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115 Rated 58 Â* Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.Â* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. Damned thing do still work.Â* They just get LOUD at high speed as they age.Â* Subaru recommends your change them at 120K miles.Â* I can't understand someone talking to me in the passenger seat at 55 MPH. Looking at newer Forester maintenance manual it calls just for inspection of wheel bearings at 60,000 and 120,000 miles. You could probably check yourself: https://www.yourmechanic.com/estimat...gs-replacement Other sites say bearings don't last much longer than 100,000 miles on Subaru's. We are on our 5 Subaru but not yet had one last that long. Two were totaled and I traded in one 13 year old one as the head gasket was going for the second time. That can be a big problem on Subaru's of that vintage. Happened to both me and a son's. Out of warranty but when complaining to Subaru we both got partial reimbursement. |
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On 2020-11-13 16:24, Frank wrote:
On 11/13/2020 3:06 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-13 09:52, Bob F wrote: On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â* Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.Â*Â* Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â* Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115 Rated 58 Â* Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.Â* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. Damned thing do still work.Â* They just get LOUD at high speed as they age.Â* Subaru recommends your change them at 120K miles.Â* I can't understand someone talking to me in the passenger seat at 55 MPH. Looking at newer Forester maintenance manual it calls just for inspection of wheel bearings at 60,000 and 120,000 miles. You could probably check yourself: https://www.yourmechanic.com/estimat...gs-replacement Other sites say bearings don't last much longer than 100,000 miles on Subaru's. We are on our 5 Subaru but not yet had one last that long.Â* Two were totaled and I traded in one 13 year old one as the head gasket was going for the second time.Â* That can be a big problem on Subaru's of that vintage.Â* Happened to both me and a son's.Â* Out of warranty but when complaining to Subaru we both got partial reimbursement. Already gone through the head gasket thing. And the rubber band thing (timing band). The newer ones don't use a rubber band. "Supposedly" Subi's are preferred by liberals. I keep telling them no self respecting liberal would be without a Volvo or a Prius. Subi's are damned fun to drive. |
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On 11/13/20 7:02 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-11-13 16:24, Frank wrote: On 11/13/2020 3:06 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-13 09:52, Bob F wrote: On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â* Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir. Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â* Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115 Rated 58 Â* Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.Â* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. Damned thing do still work.Â* They just get LOUD at high speed as they age.Â* Subaru recommends your change them at 120K miles.Â* I can't understand someone talking to me in the passenger seat at 55 MPH. Looking at newer Forester maintenance manual it calls just for inspection of wheel bearings at 60,000 and 120,000 miles. You could probably check yourself: https://www.yourmechanic.com/estimat...gs-replacement Other sites say bearings don't last much longer than 100,000 miles on Subaru's. We are on our 5 Subaru but not yet had one last that long.Â* Two were totaled and I traded in one 13 year old one as the head gasket was going for the second time.Â* That can be a big problem on Subaru's of that vintage.Â* Happened to both me and a son's.Â* Out of warranty but when complaining to Subaru we both got partial reimbursement. Already gone through the head gasket thing.Â* And the rubber band thing (timing band). The newer ones don't use a rubber band. "Supposedly" Subi's are preferred by liberals.Â* I keep telling them no self respecting liberal would be without a Volvo or a Prius. Subi's are damned fun to drive. I had a 2.5 RS Impreza. It had a five speed manual. One kid thought he wanted to buy it until I mentioned the transmission. One would probably have to look really hard to find a new car that has such the thing. I remember the old three on the tree but have never driven one. |
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On 11/13/2020 9:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Â*Â*Â*Â* I had a 2.5 RS Impreza.Â* It had a five speed manual.Â*Â* One kid thought he wanted to buy it until I mentioned the transmission. One would probably have to look really hard to find a new car that has such the thing.Â* I remember the old three on the tree but have never driven one. The three on a tree was very common into about the 60s. I learned to drive stick with a '58 Chevy Sedan delivery. It was like a station wagon with no back windows and I did deliveries for a grocery store. I also learned how to double clutch so I could shift into first while still moving as first gear was not synchronized. |
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On 11/13/2020 09:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
The three on a tree was very common into about the 60s. I learned to drive stick with a '58 Chevy Sedan delivery. It was like a station wagon with no back windows and I did deliveries for a grocery store. iirc the latest three on the tree I drove was the family '65 Dodge. I had a Dodge pickup after that but I think it was a '62. I learned on a '57 Chevy three and legally on a '62 Rambler Classic 3. I owned a '51 Chevy with a 3 too. I think all the rest of my manual transmissions were floor shift. A girlfriend had an elderly Saab 96 with a column shift among its other oddities. We lived out in the woods and she liked the FWD. The synchro rings were a problem even if it was supposed to be a synchronized transmission. They were a bronze ring with a grooved taper. As they wore smooth the grab on the gear they were supposed to be synchronizing became problematic. Three speeds were simple so replacing them wasn't a major operation. |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 21:53:44 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: iirc the latest three on the tree I drove was the family '65 Dodge. I had a Dodge pickup after that but I think it was a '62. Oh, no! Not yet more senile reminiscences by the resident senile trumptard! What has Usenet come to? LOL |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:52:50 -0800, Bob F wrote:
On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie? wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... **** Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir.** Supposed to last 75,000 miles.* $99* Rated 60 *The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.* Expected thread life 80,000 miles*** $115*** Rated 58 *They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 * Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise. I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. Replaced 2 on the Taurus at under 130.000Km and one on the Kia at $138,000Km. None on the 88 New Yorker at 240,000 and none on the ranger at 373,000. None on the Aerostar at 240,000. The ones on the Taurus may not have been necessary - we were chasing a noise that ended up finally dissapearing when I replaced the tires - - - . The one on the Kia was noisy and perceptibly loose - replacing it solved the noise. |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 20:37:18 -0600, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 11/13/20 7:02 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-13 16:24, Frank wrote: On 11/13/2020 3:06 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-13 09:52, Bob F wrote: On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie? wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... * **** Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir. Supposed to last 75,000 miles.* $99* Rated 60 * *The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.* Expected thread life 80,000 miles*** $115 Rated 58 * *They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 * * Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. Damned thing do still work.* They just get LOUD at high speed as they age.* Subaru recommends your change them at 120K miles.* I can't understand someone talking to me in the passenger seat at 55 MPH. Looking at newer Forester maintenance manual it calls just for inspection of wheel bearings at 60,000 and 120,000 miles. You could probably check yourself: https://www.yourmechanic.com/estimat...gs-replacement Other sites say bearings don't last much longer than 100,000 miles on Subaru's. We are on our 5 Subaru but not yet had one last that long.* Two were totaled and I traded in one 13 year old one as the head gasket was going for the second time.* That can be a big problem on Subaru's of that vintage.* Happened to both me and a son's.* Out of warranty but when complaining to Subaru we both got partial reimbursement. Already gone through the head gasket thing.* And the rubber band thing (timing band). The newer ones don't use a rubber band. "Supposedly" Subi's are preferred by liberals.* I keep telling them no self respecting liberal would be without a Volvo or a Prius. Subi's are damned fun to drive. I had a 2.5 RS Impreza. It had a five speed manual. One kid thought he wanted to buy it until I mentioned the transmission. One would probably have to look really hard to find a new car that has such the thing. I remember the old three on the tree but have never driven one. How about FOUR in the tree -Peugot and Renault and a few others |
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 23:19:39 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/13/2020 9:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote: **** I had a 2.5 RS Impreza.* It had a five speed manual.** One kid thought he wanted to buy it until I mentioned the transmission. One would probably have to look really hard to find a new car that has such the thing.* I remember the old three on the tree but have never driven one. The three on a tree was very common into about the 60s. I learned to drive stick with a '58 Chevy Sedan delivery. It was like a station wagon with no back windows and I did deliveries for a grocery store. I also learned how to double clutch so I could shift into first while still moving as first gear was not synchronized. Kalija (the old powerwagon tow truck) had no syncros at all and rather than double clutch I generally rev matched and shifted without the clutch. I ground a few pounds - but so did the boss double clutching. Learned to drive "stick" on the 44 Massey with a sector hand throttle. Now THAT took some concentration to shift on the fly !!!! |
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On 11/13/2020 8:02 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-11-13 16:24, Frank wrote: On 11/13/2020 3:06 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-13 09:52, Bob F wrote: On 11/13/2020 5:42 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:05:16 PM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2020-11-11 14:14, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/11/20 3:36 PM, Tekkie� wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:37:41 -0800, T posted for all of us to digest... Hi All, Forrester 2006 My mechanic says these are the two quietest P225/50 R16 tires Which one of these would be a quieter tire?Â* Do you guys have a preference? https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid-ascend-lx https://www.michelinman.com/tires/de...ender-t-h.html Any reliability issues with these two (they are not Firestone). Many thanks, -T T, it's hard for us to make an assessment as we may not own a Forester with either of those two brands. I have had Yokes in the past and they were OK, though if the vehicle sat for more than a day they flat spotted, which IMO would not disqualify them. The Mich's will probably be quieter, but more expensive. Much of road noise issue is determined by the road surface you are driving along. Both are good, a toss up from here... Â* Â*Â*Â*Â* Consumer Reports doesn't have them rated. The highest rated all season tire is Toyo Versado Noir. Supposed to last 75,000 miles.Â* $99Â* Rated 60 Â* Â*The highest rated sport performance tire is the Goodyear Eagle Sport All Season.Â* Expected thread life 80,000 milesÂ*Â*Â* $115 Rated 58 Â* Â*They also rated ultra high performance all season tires.Â* This is the highest rated among those. General G-MAX AS-05 225/50ZR16 Price: $112 Â* Â* Rated 66 but only 65,000 mile projected use I am looking for noise.Â* I have an appointment with my mechanic to change my wheel bearing at the same time. They have ~120,000 on them, so it is time. Never changed a wheel bearing yet, even on vehicles with twice that mileage. I remember my father having one rear bearing changed when I was a kid when we had an Oldsmobile station wagon with a boat on a trailer and two adults and 7 kids starting a trip from Detroit to Spokane. Never had one myself. I have rarely had a vehicle with less than 100,000 miles. Damned thing do still work.Â* They just get LOUD at high speed as they age.Â* Subaru recommends your change them at 120K miles.Â* I can't understand someone talking to me in the passenger seat at 55 MPH. Looking at newer Forester maintenance manual it calls just for inspection of wheel bearings at 60,000 and 120,000 miles. You could probably check yourself: https://www.yourmechanic.com/estimat...gs-replacement Other sites say bearings don't last much longer than 100,000 miles on Subaru's. We are on our 5 Subaru but not yet had one last that long.Â* Two were totaled and I traded in one 13 year old one as the head gasket was going for the second time.Â* That can be a big problem on Subaru's of that vintage.Â* Happened to both me and a son's.Â* Out of warranty but when complaining to Subaru we both got partial reimbursement. Already gone through the head gasket thing.Â* And the rubber band thing (timing band). The newer ones don't use a rubber band. "Supposedly" Subi's are preferred by liberals.Â* I keep telling them no self respecting liberal would be without a Volvo or a Prius. Subi's are damned fun to drive. I live on a hill side and like the fact that they come with standard AWD. Also got me places hunting that 2WD would not take me. We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is very conservative BTW. Today I drive a 2019 Crosstrek and get over 30 mpg. |
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On 11/14/20 7:05 AM, Frank wrote:
On 11/13/2020 8:02 PM, T wrote: A bunch cut. Subi's are damned fun to drive. I live on a hill side and like the fact that they come with standard AWD.Â* Also got me places hunting that 2WD would not take me. We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them.Â* He is very conservative BTW. Today I drive a 2019 Crosstrek and get over 30 mpg. I intend to buy a midsized pickup in the next few weeks. The internet is sure nice for looking. Autotrader seems to be the best way to search next to finding the local dealers' websites. Dealers are really proud of their stuff. $50,000 or so for a pickup? Ain't happening. The used ones don't come at much of a discount unless they have a bunch of miles. Most of the pickups are four wheel drive and four door. |
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Ed Pawlowski writes:
On 11/13/2020 9:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote: Â*Â*Â*Â* I had a 2.5 RS Impreza.Â* It had a five speed manual.Â*Â* One kid thought he wanted to buy it until I mentioned the transmission. One would probably have to look really hard to find a new car that has such the thing.Â* I remember the old three on the tree but have never driven one. The three on a tree was very common into about the 60s. I learned to I had a 67 dodge pickup with three on the tree. The floorboards on the passenger side provided a nice view of the pavement by 1977 :-) drive stick with a '58 Chevy Sedan delivery. It was like a station wagon with no back windows and I did deliveries for a grocery store. I learned to drive stick on a 1938 Farmall B tractor :-) |
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On 11/14/2020 01:42 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
How about FOUR in the tree -Peugot and Renault and a few others Then there was three on the dash... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%...ion_cadran.jpg |
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On 11/14/2020 11:59 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Ed Pawlowski writes: On 11/13/2020 9:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote: **** I had a 2.5 RS Impreza.* It had a five speed manual.** One kid thought he wanted to buy it until I mentioned the transmission. One would probably have to look really hard to find a new car that has such the thing.* I remember the old three on the tree but have never driven one. The three on a tree was very common into about the 60s. I learned to I had a 67 dodge pickup with three on the tree. The floorboards on the passenger side provided a nice view of the pavement by 1977 :-) drive stick with a '58 Chevy Sedan delivery. It was like a station wagon with no back windows and I did deliveries for a grocery store. I learned to drive stick on a 1938 Farmall B tractor :-) I learned on a 1928 model A Ford. Was a camper at a sleep-away summer camp with an auto shop. Counselor was a fully trained mechanic. During the course of of the summer, a group of about 10 campers totally disassembled the entire car, the chassis, engine, etc. literally down to the nuts, bolts, washers, piston rings, etc. and re-assembled it. Then, we were taught to drive it on the camp's grounds. I was about 12 y.o. at the time. |
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On 11/14/2020 06:25 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/14/20 7:05 AM, Frank wrote: On 11/13/2020 8:02 PM, T wrote: A bunch cut. Subi's are damned fun to drive. I live on a hill side and like the fact that they come with standard AWD. Also got me places hunting that 2WD would not take me. We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is very conservative BTW. Today I drive a 2019 Crosstrek and get over 30 mpg. I intend to buy a midsized pickup in the next few weeks. The internet is sure nice for looking. Autotrader seems to be the best way to search next to finding the local dealers' websites. Dealers are really proud of their stuff. $50,000 or so for a pickup? Ain't happening. The used ones don't come at much of a discount unless they have a bunch of miles. Most of the pickups are four wheel drive and four door. The dealer where I bought my first Toyota in 2007 also sold Fords. I got a real sticker shock looking at a F150. iirc, I paid $10,000 for mine in '86 and it didn't look like a luxury ride brand new. |
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On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote:
We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them.Â* He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline. About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. |
lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's eternal senile whore!
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:42:25 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: Then there was three on the dash... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%...ion_cadran.jpg You REALLY got nothing better to do, eh, senile hayseed and trumptard? G |
lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's eternal senile whore!
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:47:18 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: The dealer where I bought my first Toyota in 2007 also sold Fords. Good to know, senile gossip! G |
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On 11/14/2020 10:43 AM, Peter wrote:
I learned on a 1928 model A Ford. Was a camper at a sleep-away summer camp with an auto shop. Counselor was a fully trained mechanic. During the course of of the summer, a group of about 10 campers totally disassembled the entire car, the chassis, engine, etc. literally down to the nuts, bolts, washers, piston rings, etc. and re-assembled it. Then, we were taught to drive it on the camp's grounds. I was about 12 y.o. at the time A college friend who had been a commercial pilot but had returned to get a degree had a lot of toys. He casually loaned his Model A to another friend and I. We reached out to my father for a tutorial on the care and feeding of the thing. Troy, NY is built on sort of an escarpment down to the Hudson river. We learned that mechanical brakes more or less suck. Fortunately disaster was averted and we routed around to some of the gentler grades. |
lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's eternal senile whore!
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 13:47:18 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: A college friend who had been a commercial pilot but had returned to get a degree had a lot of toys. He casually loaned his Model A to another friend and I. Oh, NO! And the senile babble continues and continues and continues... tsk |
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:47:18 -0700, rbowman
wrote: On 11/14/2020 06:25 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 11/14/20 7:05 AM, Frank wrote: On 11/13/2020 8:02 PM, T wrote: A bunch cut. Subi's are damned fun to drive. I live on a hill side and like the fact that they come with standard AWD. Also got me places hunting that 2WD would not take me. We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is very conservative BTW. Today I drive a 2019 Crosstrek and get over 30 mpg. I intend to buy a midsized pickup in the next few weeks. The internet is sure nice for looking. Autotrader seems to be the best way to search next to finding the local dealers' websites. Dealers are really proud of their stuff. $50,000 or so for a pickup? Ain't happening. The used ones don't come at much of a discount unless they have a bunch of miles. Most of the pickups are four wheel drive and four door. The dealer where I bought my first Toyota in 2007 also sold Fords. I got a real sticker shock looking at a F150. iirc, I paid $10,000 for mine in '86 and it didn't look like a luxury ride brand new. These days you are lucky to get out the door with an F150 for $50,000 and a tricked out one is way more than that. |
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On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them.Â* He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline.Â* About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. |
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On 2020-11-14 16:12, Frank wrote:
On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them.Â* He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline.Â* About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. That is what I told Maverick. They claim it is their suppliers doing it. Hmmmmmmmmm... |
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On 11/14/2020 7:12 PM, Frank wrote:
On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them.Â* He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline.Â* About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. Hmmmm, 15,000 stations but none in DE. https://www.pure-gas.org/ No idea on the price aside from "because we can" On a car forum a guy did tests and he got roughly 22 mpg on ethanol, 24 mpg on straight gas so the cost per miles was the same for him |
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On 11/14/2020 5:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/14/2020 7:12 PM, Frank wrote: On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline.Â* About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. Hmmmm, 15,000 stations but none in DE. https://www.pure-gas.org/ No idea on the price aside from "because we can"Â* On a car forum a guy did tests and he got roughly 22 mpg on ethanol, 24 mpg on straight gas so the cost per miles was the same for him I know of one station near me that sells lead free gas. It is not cheap, probably because not much of it is sold. I bought some for my 2 stroke equipment. |
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On 2020-11-14 17:10, Bob F wrote:
On 11/14/2020 5:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 11/14/2020 7:12 PM, Frank wrote: On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline.Â* About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. Hmmmm, 15,000 stations but none in DE. https://www.pure-gas.org/ No idea on the price aside from "because we can"Â* On a car forum a guy did tests and he got roughly 22 mpg on ethanol, 24 mpg on straight gas so the cost per miles was the same for him I know of one station near me that sells lead free gas. It is not cheap, probably because not much of it is sold. I bought some for my 2 stroke equipment. Comrade, They have not sold leaded gasoline for a lot of years. Did you mean alcohol free? -T |
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On 11/14/2020 7:28 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-11-14 16:12, Frank wrote: On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline.Â* About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. That is what I told Maverick.Â* They claim it is their suppliers doing it.Â*Â* Hmmmmmmmmm... Probably a volume thing. I understand it is more expensive to transport gas with ethanol as they cannot pipeline it. I recall when it came to nearby PA they had to dig up tanks to replace or clean as gas with ethanol has greater solvent power and would bring up any gunk on the old tanks. It is an abomination that should never have been inflicted on us. |
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On 11/14/2020 05:28 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-11-14 16:12, Frank wrote: On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is very conservative BTW. So are the both of use!! Today I drive a 2019 Crosstrek and get over 30 mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline. About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. That is what I told Maverick. They claim it is their suppliers doing it. Hmmmmmmmmm... It may be worth researching ethanol subsidies. https://www.taxpayer.net/energy-natu...ased-biofuels/ |
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On 2020-11-14 17:23, Frank wrote:
On 11/14/2020 7:28 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 16:12, Frank wrote: On 11/14/2020 3:30 PM, T wrote: On 2020-11-14 05:05, Frank wrote: We now have a family friend at SOA and get the VIP deals on them. He is veryÂ*conservativeÂ*BTW. So are the both of use!! TodayÂ*IÂ*driveÂ*aÂ*2019Â*CrosstrekÂ*andÂ*getÂ*ove rÂ*30Â*mpg. I get about 24.4 MPG city on my 2006 Forester with pure gasoline.Â* About 22.0 MPG on that alcohol crap. The good stuff is consistently 40 cents more per gallon, but the miles per dollar are the same. They do not sell ethanol free gas here and makes no sense that ethanol free costs more. That is what I told Maverick.Â* They claim it is their suppliers doing it.Â*Â* Hmmmmmmmmm... Probably a volume thing.Â* I understand it is more expensive to transport gas with ethanol as they cannot pipeline it.Â* I recall when it came to nearby PA they had to dig up tanks to replace or clean as gas with ethanol has greater solvent power and would bring up any gunk on the old tanks.Â* It is an abomination that should never have been inflicted on us. 1+ I am all for any form of energy AS LONG as it can stand on its own two feet. |
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