This 'man' builds, moves, and sells sheds.

I first dealt with him in the late 80's, as he was bulldozes-ing land
for a pond, and instead of burning the hardwood, he sold me some...

Anyway... I had some sheds that needed to be moved because of
landscaping needs and slight irrigation problems, so,
I went to him for help. This was in March

He delivered a small truck trailer... I'm not sure of it's size (about
10'X 25', 8' tall)... and, I moved my belonging from the sheds into the
his trailer.

I had two single-axle dump-trucks of dirt delivered, and then had a
neighbor with a tractor spread the dirt out. ( This wasn't until
End-April) This wasn't enough dirt, so I ordered another truck- load.
It came about Mid-May... I covered the dirt with a tarp, and it has
rained about every weekend since.
(My neighbor works weekdays).

Almost 6 inches of rain fell within June
again in July and by Mid-August... with over 9 inches of rain, I had
become frustrated and called the shed-moving company and asked if there
was a way for them to help me... even if it would cost me a few hundred
dollars to help me have the dirt moved and levelled. ?

They couldn't answer... because the owner of the company was on vacation
until the 26th of August.


I'd planned on calling him today, the 30th of August, but, before I had
called him, he had left a phone call on my voice mail. He says... in a
nutshell that he doesn't want my bill to get too high ....and wonders
"where we stand".

When I call him back, I apologized about he long delay and lack of
communication, and explained my situation, with the weather and all....

He stated that there was an $89.00 a month "usage fee" for the use of
the trailer and that my bill was getting excessive.

--I couldn't believe it...
We never discussed a fee for the trailer before-hand...

I simply said that we never discussed a price for the storage trailer
and that I wished we had discussed it before-hand...

He said, "What, did you expect it for free?"..... and I said " I didn't
know one way or the other"....

I stated that " I wish we had sighed a contract" .... he says, "we
don't sign contracts here"

He said... as he was dropping off the trailer... he was THINKING of
renting- out those trailers , because of the I-Pod and other trailer
rental agencies...

We NEVER-EVER spoke about a rental charge for the trailer, and NOW he
wants about $100 for the first trailer move (which is ok with me)...
BUT, he wants about $550 for the trailer rental!

Am I right to tell him to "kiss-my-foot"... or should I "Be a man...
suck-up, and foot SOME of the cost"?????

"DaddyMonkey" wrote

SIP

We NEVER-EVER spoke about a rental charge for the trailer, and NOW he
wants about $100 for the first trailer move (which is ok with me)...
BUT, he wants about $550 for the trailer rental!

Am I right to tell him to "kiss-my-foot"... or should I "Be a man...
suck-up, and foot SOME of the cost"?????

What? Do you think those are FREE???

"Oh, sure pal! You can just use this for as long as you want for FREE! I'll
just be losing the $89 a month I would nornally get from A PAYING
CUSTOMER!!!!"

$550 is cheap! (Since March??!!!!)

Pay him or end up in court......

Read the entire post before responding!

I clearly stated that HE SAID that he was "THINKING" of renting-out
these trailers before he delivered it to me.

...end up in court?
...with no contract?

If he is not gouging you then pay it. Call someone else to find out what it
should have cost. You had prior business with him and apparently he thought
there was some trust between you. Find a fair price and pay it.


"DaddyMonkey" wrote in message
...
This 'man' builds, moves, and sells sheds.

I first dealt with him in the late 80's, as he was bulldozes-ing land
for a pond, and instead of burning the hardwood, he sold me some...

Anyway... I had some sheds that needed to be moved because of
landscaping needs and slight irrigation problems, so,
I went to him for help. This was in March

He delivered a small truck trailer... I'm not sure of it's size (about
10'X 25', 8' tall)... and, I moved my belonging from the sheds into the
his trailer.

I had two single-axle dump-trucks of dirt delivered, and then had a
neighbor with a tractor spread the dirt out. ( This wasn't until
End-April) This wasn't enough dirt, so I ordered another truck- load.
It came about Mid-May... I covered the dirt with a tarp, and it has
rained about every weekend since.
(My neighbor works weekdays).

Almost 6 inches of rain fell within June
again in July and by Mid-August... with over 9 inches of rain, I had
become frustrated and called the shed-moving company and asked if there
was a way for them to help me... even if it would cost me a few hundred
dollars to help me have the dirt moved and levelled. ?

They couldn't answer... because the owner of the company was on vacation
until the 26th of August.


I'd planned on calling him today, the 30th of August, but, before I had
called him, he had left a phone call on my voice mail. He says... in a
nutshell that he doesn't want my bill to get too high ....and wonders
"where we stand".

When I call him back, I apologized about he long delay and lack of
communication, and explained my situation, with the weather and all....

He stated that there was an $89.00 a month "usage fee" for the use of
the trailer and that my bill was getting excessive.

--I couldn't believe it...
We never discussed a fee for the trailer before-hand...

I simply said that we never discussed a price for the storage trailer
and that I wished we had discussed it before-hand...

He said, "What, did you expect it for free?"..... and I said " I didn't
know one way or the other"....

I stated that " I wish we had sighed a contract" .... he says, "we
don't sign contracts here"

He said... as he was dropping off the trailer... he was THINKING of
renting- out those trailers , because of the I-Pod and other trailer
rental agencies...

We NEVER-EVER spoke about a rental charge for the trailer, and NOW he
wants about $100 for the first trailer move (which is ok with me)...
BUT, he wants about $550 for the trailer rental!

Am I right to tell him to "kiss-my-foot"... or should I "Be a man...
suck-up, and foot SOME of the cost"?????

Thanks!

I don't feel gouged by his asking $89.00 a month, just a little
betrayed... IF ONLY he would have asked for the price up-front.

It's true I had prior business with him in the past, but trust is a
two-way street...

Would a fair price be 50/50 withOUT prior agreement?

"DaddyMonkey" wrote in message
...
This 'man' builds, moves, and sells sheds.

I first dealt with him in the late 80's, as he was bulldozes-ing land
for a pond, and instead of burning the hardwood, he sold me some...

Anyway... I had some sheds that needed to be moved because of
landscaping needs and slight irrigation problems, so,
I went to him for help. This was in March

He delivered a small truck trailer... I'm not sure of it's size (about
10'X 25', 8' tall)... and, I moved my belonging from the sheds into the
his trailer.

I had two single-axle dump-trucks of dirt delivered, and then had a
neighbor with a tractor spread the dirt out. ( This wasn't until
End-April) This wasn't enough dirt, so I ordered another truck- load.
It came about Mid-May... I covered the dirt with a tarp, and it has
rained about every weekend since.
(My neighbor works weekdays).

Almost 6 inches of rain fell within June
again in July and by Mid-August... with over 9 inches of rain, I had
become frustrated and called the shed-moving company and asked if there
was a way for them to help me... even if it would cost me a few hundred
dollars to help me have the dirt moved and levelled. ?

They couldn't answer... because the owner of the company was on vacation
until the 26th of August.


I'd planned on calling him today, the 30th of August, but, before I had
called him, he had left a phone call on my voice mail. He says... in a
nutshell that he doesn't want my bill to get too high ....and wonders
"where we stand".

When I call him back, I apologized about he long delay and lack of
communication, and explained my situation, with the weather and all....

He stated that there was an $89.00 a month "usage fee" for the use of
the trailer and that my bill was getting excessive.

--I couldn't believe it...
We never discussed a fee for the trailer before-hand...

I simply said that we never discussed a price for the storage trailer
and that I wished we had discussed it before-hand...

He said, "What, did you expect it for free?"..... and I said " I didn't
know one way or the other"....

I stated that " I wish we had sighed a contract" .... he says, "we
don't sign contracts here"

He said... as he was dropping off the trailer... he was THINKING of
renting- out those trailers , because of the I-Pod and other trailer
rental agencies...

We NEVER-EVER spoke about a rental charge for the trailer, and NOW he
wants about $100 for the first trailer move (which is ok with me)...
BUT, he wants about $550 for the trailer rental!

Am I right to tell him to "kiss-my-foot"... or should I "Be a man...
suck-up, and foot SOME of the cost"?????


You should swallow hard, suck it up and pay the man. The price sounds
reasonable from where I sit.

Next time you will know to ask the cost before you contract for services.

I am sorry. I know this is not the answer you wanted.


Colbyt

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"DaddyMonkey" wrote
This 'man' builds, moves, and sells sheds.
This was in March

He delivered a small truck trailer... I'm not sure of it's size (about
10'X 25', 8' tall)... and, I moved my belonging from the sheds into the
his trailer.

I had two single-axle dump-trucks of dirt delivered, and then had a
neighbor with a tractor spread the dirt out. ( This wasn't until
End-April) This wasn't enough dirt, so I ordered another truck- load.
It came about Mid-May... I covered the dirt with a tarp, and it has
rained about every weekend since.
(My neighbor works weekdays).


Ahem. Time frame of 2 months? Oh, nevermind I see you're using your
neighbor as an excuse.


Almost 6 inches of rain fell within June
again in July and by Mid-August... with over 9 inches of rain, I had
become frustrated and called the shed-moving company and asked if there
was a way for them to help me... even if it would cost me a few hundred
dollars to help me have the dirt moved and levelled. ?

They couldn't answer... because the owner of the company was on vacation
until the 26th of August.


I'd planned on calling him today, the 30th of August, but, before I had
called him, he had left a phone call on my voice mail. He says... in a
nutshell that he doesn't want my bill to get too high ....and wonders
"where we stand".

When I call him back, I apologized about he long delay and lack of
communication, and explained my situation, with the weather and all....


What about the 2 months prior to the excuse of weather and all? You
acknowledged the long delay. Trust me, we had worse weather than what you
explained, and the construction world didn't come to a halt. You took on a
responsibility, quit blaming everything. You should really immature by
using every excuse you can. Neighbor works weekdays, rain, had a tooth
ache, dog ate my homework.


or should I "Be a man...
suck-up, and foot SOME of the cost"?????

Be a real man, live up to your responsibilities and pay the man _ALL_ the
costs. What's up with being half a man? and the other half is nothing but
excuses.

You're pathetic!

"Nate" wrote
You should really immature by
using every excuse you can.

Should be:

You _sound_ really immature by using every excuse you can.

we al do it form time to yime!
LOL

1) Yes, I have had his trailer for a long time.

2)Yes, for a long time.

3) Yes for a long time, and he couldn't use it.

4) No words were spoken over duration or monetary.

5) Your point being........??????????

P.S. one neighbor had cancer, next cardic, 3rd has deformed arm.. and
the 4th who could help me ,worked weekdays and could only help
weekends... which were raining cats/dogs.(now, he's trying to get
daughter into college)

P.S.S. If I had KNOWN of the charges, I would've hired help for
about HALF of what I am trying to be charged NOW!

"DaddyMonkey" wrote
5) Your point being........??????????

P.S. one neighbor had cancer, next cardic, 3rd has deformed arm.. and
the 4th who could help me ,worked weekdays and could only help
weekends... which were raining cats/dogs.(now, he's trying to get
daughter into college)


Yawn.....More excuses....Typical of a deadbeat

"DaddyMonkey" wrote
1) Yes, I have had his trailer for a long time.

2)Yes, for a long time.

3) Yes for a long time, and he couldn't use it.

4) No words were spoken over duration or monetary.

5) Your point being........??????????

P.S. one neighbor had cancer, next cardic, 3rd has deformed arm.. and
the 4th who could help me ,worked weekdays and could only help
weekends... which were raining cats/dogs.(now, he's trying to get
daughter into college)

What does you neighbors have to do with your responsibilities? That's my
point! Are you helpless unless someone helps you? Moving dirt is not rocket
science, even though you may think it is.

No.
I'm not putting the blame on someone else.

No.
moving dirt is not rocket science


Again I state my case,
If HE had just told me BEFORE-hand of the charge being implied, I could
have had this dirt moved by a landscaper for 200-300 bucks... now the
bill is 550 plus.

"DaddyMonkey" wrote in message
...
No.
I'm not putting the blame on someone else.

No.
moving dirt is not rocket science


Again I state my case,
If HE had just told me BEFORE-hand of the charge being implied, I
could
have had this dirt moved by a landscaper for 200-300 bucks... now the
bill is 550 plus.


Then offer to meet him half way, he gets money for loaning the trailer
you got the use of the trailer. See what he says to that.

you can do this...
you can do that...

...and what do you do when it's pouring rain outside and you have to cut
the grass? Be a man?
yeahrightsure

Don't gimme that macho BS!

Maybe within YOUR business you can afford on spending OTHER peoples
hard-earned dollars, and I bet if you were to be a man (ie literate) and
read the full posts AND IT BEING YOUR COMPANY, or YOUR hard earned
dollar, maybe you'd think twice before posting some ignorant message
such as " I am mighty and I can-do-it-all"

I am an ASE certified Master Automotive Technician (toot-toot)
(really, I am)


(Hypothetical situation follows)
You bring your car to me on Friday and tell me about a fluid leak. I do
the diagnostics for free... and tell you about the coolant leak.
"I'm sorry, but its your water-pump"
"How much is THAT gonna cost me"?, you ask
About $200, parts and labor...

You drop-off your car on Monday morning and the job is completed before
lunch-time. NO repair orders have been signed.

Meantime, your 2.3 kids get sick, wife has been sprayed by a skunk, 3
hurricanes have struck... whatever

YOU call back a month from Friday and say, "It's going to be the
following week before I can pick up my car..."
...but,I can't help you, because the manager is on vacation, HE makes
all of the decisions. He will be back TWO weeks from now.

Monday, two weeks later, there's a message on your voice-mail... "HEY!
This is Mr. soNso... your bill is getting excessive... there's a $50 per
hour storage fee to keep holding your car here. What do you want us to
do?

What WOULD you do?

"DaddyMonkey" wrote in message
...
I am an ASE certified Master Automotive Technician (toot-toot)
(really, I am)


(Hypothetical situation follows)
You bring your car to me on Friday and tell me about a fluid leak. I do
the diagnostics for free... and tell you about the coolant leak.
"I'm sorry, but its your water-pump"
"How much is THAT gonna cost me"?, you ask
About $200, parts and labor...

You drop-off your car on Monday morning and the job is completed before
lunch-time. NO repair orders have been signed.

Meantime, your 2.3 kids get sick, wife has been sprayed by a skunk, 3
hurricanes have struck... whatever

YOU call back a month from Friday and say, "It's going to be the
following week before I can pick up my car..."
...but,I can't help you, because the manager is on vacation, HE makes
all of the decisions. He will be back TWO weeks from now.

Monday, two weeks later, there's a message on your voice-mail... "HEY!
This is Mr. soNso... your bill is getting excessive... there's a $50 per
hour storage fee to keep holding your car here. What do you want us to
do?

What WOULD you do?

I'd find out what the going rate was for vehicle storage and pay the shop
that. I can't expect the shop to store my car for free. BUT your scenario
above does not match your own, the extra 2 weeks from the manager is not in
your situation. I would owe for the month at the normal rate, hardly
$50/hour for storage.

- Robert

"DaddyMonkey" wrote
I am an ASE certified Master Automotive Technician (toot-toot)
(really, I am)


(Hypothetical situation follows)
You bring your car to me on Friday and tell me about a fluid leak. I do
the diagnostics for free... and tell you about the coolant leak.
"I'm sorry, but its your water-pump"
"How much is THAT gonna cost me"?, you ask
About $200, parts and labor...

You drop-off your car on Monday morning and the job is completed before
lunch-time. NO repair orders have been signed.

Meantime, your 2.3 kids get sick, wife has been sprayed by a skunk, 3
hurricanes have struck... whatever

YOU call back a month from Friday and say, "It's going to be the
following week before I can pick up my car..."
...but,I can't help you, because the manager is on vacation, HE makes
all of the decisions. He will be back TWO weeks from now.

Monday, two weeks later, there's a message on your voice-mail... "HEY!
This is Mr. soNso... your bill is getting excessive... there's a $50 per
hour storage fee to keep holding your car here. What do you want us to
do?

What WOULD you do?

Very poor analogy... You seem to forget there has been a 5 months lapse in
time period.

This 'man' builds, moves, and sells sheds.

I first dealt with him in the late 80's, as he was bulldozes-ing land
for a pond, and instead of burning the hardwood, he sold me some...

Anyway... I had some sheds that needed to be moved because of
landscaping needs and slight irrigation problems, so,
I went to him for help. This was in March

He delivered a small truck trailer... I'm not sure of it's size (about
10'X 25', 8' tall)... and, I moved my belonging from the sheds into the
his trailer.

I had two single-axle dump-trucks of dirt delivered, and then had a
neighbor with a tractor spread the dirt out. ( This wasn't until
End-April) This wasn't enough dirt, so I ordered another truck- load.
It came about Mid-May... I covered the dirt with a tarp, and it has
rained about every weekend since.
(My neighbor works weekdays).

Almost 6 inches of rain fell within June
again in July and by Mid-August... with over 9 inches of rain, I had
become frustrated and called the shed-moving company and asked if there
was a way for them to help me... even if it would cost me a few hundred
dollars to help me have the dirt moved and levelled. ?

They couldn't answer... because the owner of the company was on vacation
until the 26th of August.


I'd planned on calling him today, the 30th of August, but, before I had
called him, he had left a phone call on my voice mail. He says... in a
nutshell that he doesn't want my bill to get too high ....and wonders
"where we stand".

When I call him back, I apologized about he long delay and lack of
communication, and explained my situation, with the weather and all....

He stated that there was an $89.00 a month "usage fee" for the use of
the trailer and that my bill was getting excessive.

--I couldn't believe it...
We never discussed a fee for the trailer before-hand...

I simply said that we never discussed a price for the storage trailer
and that I wished we had discussed it before-hand...

He said, "What, did you expect it for free?"..... and I said " I didn't
know one way or the other"....

I stated that " I wish we had sighed a contract" .... he says, "we
don't sign contracts here"

He said... as he was dropping off the trailer... he was THINKING of
renting- out those trailers , because of the I-Pod and other trailer
rental agencies...

We NEVER-EVER spoke about a rental charge for the trailer, and NOW he
wants about $100 for the first trailer move (which is ok with me)...
BUT, he wants about $550 for the trailer rental!

Am I right to tell him to "kiss-my-foot"... or should I "Be a man...
suck-up, and foot SOME of the cost"?????


You probably should expect to pay something but a court might well not force
you too. From what you say you had No contract at all oral or otherwise. If
your state is a one party state with regard to recording telephone calls i.e.
only one party to the conversation has to know a recording is being made then
get the fact that there was no compensation specifically agreed to on tape and
you should be home free.