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[email protected] August 27th 04 06:33 PM

generac sucks cease and desist
 
Last summer I posted a thread about the problems I was having with my
Generac natural gas 10KW generator and the lack of customer service.
I made a diary of my adventure and posted it to a site I created,
generac-sucks.com

Well, low and behold, a year later I get a "cease and desist" letter
from Generac's Vice President General Counsel informing me that if "in
the unfortunate event that you fail to remove these defamatory
materials, we will take aggressive legal action."

Just so happens that the domain expired this week and I did not renew
it since it served its purpose.

With all the existing case law surrounding "sucks" websites, it makes
me wonder.



Minnie Bannister August 27th 04 06:59 PM

I have previously visited "Radio Shack sucks" and "U-Haul sucks" sites
(don't recall the precise names). I wonder if their owners are also
being harassed.

MB


On 08/27/04 01:33 pm put fingers to keyboard and
launched the following message into cyberspace:

Last summer I posted a thread about the problems I was having with my
Generac natural gas 10KW generator and the lack of customer service.
I made a diary of my adventure and posted it to a site I created,
generac-sucks.com

Well, low and behold, a year later I get a "cease and desist" letter
from Generac's Vice President General Counsel informing me that if "in
the unfortunate event that you fail to remove these defamatory
materials, we will take aggressive legal action."

Just so happens that the domain expired this week and I did not renew
it since it served its purpose.

With all the existing case law surrounding "sucks" websites, it makes
me wonder.


m Ransley August 27th 04 09:50 PM

But did it get fixed


m Ransley August 27th 04 09:52 PM

I could not find the site, so what happened.


Greg O August 27th 04 11:00 PM


wrote in message
...
Last summer I posted a thread about the problems I was having with my
Generac natural gas 10KW generator and the lack of customer service.
I made a diary of my adventure and posted it to a site I created,
generac-sucks.com



I work for Generac dealer, as a sevice tech. What was the problem, and was
it resolved?
We have had good support from Generac, even as far as to offer to exchange a
troublesome generator that is two years out of warranty. Generac has spotty
support for standby products. We often drive over 100 miles one way to do
service. Warranty dealers are not in every city and the closest may be miles
away, not nessasarily Generacs fault! Just not allot of companies want to
take on this type of work. Often when I get there it is an instalation
problem not covered under warranty. We get a check for the travel time when
I arrive, or I leave! Customers often have a hard time understanding what is
warranty and what is not.
E-mail me if you like.
Greg



m Ransley August 28th 04 12:46 AM

If you had a claim court would have heard it. I say a nonexistant site
and slander is BS


I-zheet M'drurz August 28th 04 05:19 AM

Top-posting dickdrip Minnie Bannister wrote:

I have previously visited "Radio Shack sucks" and "U-Haul sucks"
sites (don't recall the precise names). I wonder if their owners
are also being harassed.


They SHOULD be! You can't just go publishing undocumented
heresay anecdotal stories about a company like that, that's
friggin' LIBEL unless every single word of it is proven
fact. Where the fugg do people get off thinking they can
just stand up in a public forum and defame another person
or a business??

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Red Neckerson August 28th 04 11:27 AM


"Greg O" wrote

I work for Generac dealer, as a sevice tech. What was the problem, and was
it resolved?
We have had good support from Generac, even as far as to offer to exchange

a
troublesome generator that is two years out of warranty. Generac has

spotty
support for standby products. We often drive over 100 miles one way to do
service. Warranty dealers are not in every city and the closest may be

miles
away, not nessasarily Generacs fault! Just not allot of companies want to
take on this type of work. Often when I get there it is an instalation
problem not covered under warranty. We get a check for the travel time

when
I arrive, or I leave! Customers often have a hard time understanding what

is
warranty and what is not.
E-mail me if you like.
Greg


I bought a Generac generator and within the same week, I caught the clap.
What can yew do fer me?



Greg O August 28th 04 02:29 PM


"Red Neckerson" wrote in message
news:D6ZXc.308$bD5.296@trnddc03...

"Greg O" wrote

I work for Generac dealer, as a sevice tech. What was the problem, and

was
it resolved?
We have had good support from Generac, even as far as to offer to

exchange
a
troublesome generator that is two years out of warranty. Generac has

spotty
support for standby products. We often drive over 100 miles one way to

do
service. Warranty dealers are not in every city and the closest may be

miles
away, not nessasarily Generacs fault! Just not allot of companies want

to
take on this type of work. Often when I get there it is an instalation
problem not covered under warranty. We get a check for the travel time

when
I arrive, or I leave! Customers often have a hard time understanding

what
is
warranty and what is not.
E-mail me if you like.
Greg


I bought a Generac generator and within the same week, I caught the clap.
What can yew do fer me?



..357 in the right ear will take care of it!
Greg



L. M. Rappaport August 29th 04 02:36 PM

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:33:31 -0400, wrote (with
possible editing):

Last summer I posted a thread about the problems I was having with my
Generac natural gas 10KW generator and the lack of customer service.
I made a diary of my adventure and posted it to a site I created,
generac-sucks.com

Well, low and behold, a year later I get a "cease and desist" letter
from Generac's Vice President General Counsel informing me that if "in
the unfortunate event that you fail to remove these defamatory
materials, we will take aggressive legal action."

Just so happens that the domain expired this week and I did not renew
it since it served its purpose.

With all the existing case law surrounding "sucks" websites, it makes
me wonder.


FWLIW, if you reported everything that happened and made no
unsubstantiated claims, I'd guess their lawyer can take all the action
he likes and shove it up his ass. After all, we do have free speech
in this country. OTOH, if you made unsubstantiated claims, that could
be interpreted as either slander or libel (one's spoken, one's
written, but who other than a low-life lawyer actually cares...)
--

Larry
Email to rapp at lmr dot com

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Top-posting dickdrip Minnie Bannister wrote:

I have previously visited "Radio Shack sucks" and "U-Haul sucks"
sites (don't recall the precise names). I wonder if their owners
are also being harassed.


They SHOULD be! You can't just go publishing undocumented
heresay anecdotal stories about a company like that, that's
friggin' LIBEL unless every single word of it is proven
fact.


No it isn't. It isn't libel unless it's proven by a preponderance of the
evidence in a civil court to be an untrue statement.

Where the fugg do people get off thinking they can
just stand up in a public forum and defame another person
or a business?


It isn't defamation unless it's false. Companies should think about the
consequences before they make a crappy product or give crappy customer service.


HorneTD September 4th 04 07:07 PM

Welcome to the United States of America. It's called free speech.
--
Tom H


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