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Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k -- Demolitioncrats are destroying America! |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Lock and load!!!!!!!!!! |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days. That may change the vote. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 06/29/2020 04:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k That's as rich as Madame Feinstein's concealed carry permit. One can only hope they selected their private security as well as Indira Gandhi. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:29:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days. That may change the vote. If anything, that should hurry the process to abolish the police force as it currently exists. For Police officers who don't take their responsibilities seriously and call in sick as a form of protest, their exit from public service can't come soon enough. The big question will be whether the Police 2.0 will actually do better. I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Hope is a weak strategy and makes a very thin plan. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 6:39:33 PM UTC-4, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k -- Demolitioncrats are destroying America! They're the duly elected government of Minneapolis. Why do you hate democracy? Cindy Hamilton |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/30/2020 1:14 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:29:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days. That may change the vote. If anything, that should hurry the process to abolish the police force as it currently exists. For Police officers who don't take their responsibilities seriously and call in sick as a form of protest, their exit from public service can't come soon enough. The big question will be whether the Police 2.0 will actually do better. I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Hope is a weak strategy and makes a very thin plan. Before abandoning the old force they should have a plan. OK, they made a big show with their vote but now what? Sadly, a lot of people actually thing NO police are needed. Reform may be needed but handling it wrong, making all police into bad guys, will end up with a **** show that can last for years. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/30/2020 7:00 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/30/2020 1:14 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:29:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days.Â* That may change the vote. If anything, that should hurry the process to abolish the police force as it currently exists. For Police officers who don't take their responsibilities seriously and call in sick as a form of protest, their exit from public service can't come soon enough. The big question will be whether the Police 2.0 will actually do better. I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Hope is a weak strategy and makes a very thin plan. Before abandoning the old force they should have a plan.Â* OK, they made a big show with their vote but now what?Â* Sadly, a lot of people actually thing NO police are needed. Reform may be needed but handling it wrong, making all police into bad guys, will end up with a **** show that can last for years. And that is what they are doing. Making a plan. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:00:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/30/2020 1:14 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:29:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days. That may change the vote. If anything, that should hurry the process to abolish the police force as it currently exists. For Police officers who don't take their responsibilities seriously and call in sick as a form of protest, their exit from public service can't come soon enough. The big question will be whether the Police 2.0 will actually do better. I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Hope is a weak strategy and makes a very thin plan. Before abandoning the old force they should have a plan. OK, they made a big show with their vote but now what? Right. That's essentially the question I asked above. I think they (Mpls) need to move fairly quickly, before things deteriorate further. The police situation could become even more unstable now that they know change is coming. Sadly, a lot of people actually thing NO police are needed. I haven't seen that, but I don't doubt it. I think what's needed is a drastic reduction in the size and scope of police forces. For decades, the mantra has been, "We need more cops on the street." Like a pendulum, I think we've swung way past where we need to be. Reducing the force is going to be a lot harder than growing it, though. Reform may be needed but handling it wrong, making all police into bad guys, will end up with a **** show that can last for years. Certainly a possibility. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/30/2020 3:08 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 6:39:33 PM UTC-4, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k -- Demolitioncrats are destroying America! They're the duly elected government of Minneapolis. Why do you hate democracy? Cindy Hamilton trumpsters only like democracy if they are the only ones that get to make the decisions. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/29/2020 5:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k It's time for a mass migration of all LE who worked for that police dept. and they should move out of state where republicans run things. They'll be appreciated, and those cities will be much safer to raise their families, too. -- Maggie |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/30/2020 9:56 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 6/29/2020 5:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k It's time for a mass migration of all LE who worked for that police dept. and they should move out of state where republicans run things. They'll be appreciated, and those cities will be much safer to raise their families, too. LOL! |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:16:27 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:00:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/30/2020 1:14 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:29:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days. That may change the vote. If anything, that should hurry the process to abolish the police force as it currently exists. For Police officers who don't take their responsibilities seriously and call in sick as a form of protest, their exit from public service can't come soon enough. The big question will be whether the Police 2.0 will actually do better. I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Hope is a weak strategy and makes a very thin plan. Before abandoning the old force they should have a plan. OK, they made a big show with their vote but now what? Right. That's essentially the question I asked above. I think they (Mpls) need to move fairly quickly, before things deteriorate further. The police situation could become even more unstable now that they know change is coming. Sadly, a lot of people actually thing NO police are needed. I haven't seen that, but I don't doubt it. I think what's needed is a drastic reduction in the size and scope of police forces. For decades, the mantra has been, "We need more cops on the street." Like a pendulum, I think we've swung way past where we need to be. Reducing the force is going to be a lot harder than growing it, though. Reform may be needed but handling it wrong, making all police into bad guys, will end up with a **** show that can last for years. Certainly a possibility. The pendulum is not a good way to deal with things like the police. DiBlasio is swinging back to the Koch/Dinkins model and his crime rate is starting to show it. The one that impressed me (unfavorably) is what is happening in the schools. They have decided that they don't want resource officers (cops in school) anymore and that the doors will be open (no touching the handles). I am sure that will last until the next time we have someone shot or the drug dealing and strangers wandering around the halls becomes oppressive. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:33:06 -0700, Bob F wrote:
On 6/30/2020 9:56 AM, Muggles wrote: On 6/29/2020 5:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k It's time for a mass migration of all LE who worked for that police dept. and they should move out of state where republicans run things. They'll be appreciated, and those cities will be much safer to raise their families, too. LOL! The cops will already be leaving since there is no jobs for them. In a year when this experiment blows up in their face the city will be begging them to come back. BTW I did look into the Camden Miracle and it was basically busting the union. They reduced the cost of a cop from $189k a year to a little under $100k (salary benefits, support etc). Funny the left doesn't like admitting that. The union is creeping back in as we speak and things will be back the way they were soon enough. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message ... On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 6:39:33 PM UTC-4, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Demolitioncrats are destroying America! They're the duly elected government of Minneapolis. Which has just made a terminally stupid decision. Why do you hate democracy? More likely that he hates terminal stupid decisions. |
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Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/30/2020 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:33:06 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/30/2020 9:56 AM, Muggles wrote: On 6/29/2020 5:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k It's time for a mass migration of all LE who worked for that police dept. and they should move out of state where republicans run things. They'll be appreciated, and those cities will be much safer to raise their families, too. LOL! The cops will already be leaving since there is no jobs for them. In a year when this experiment blows up in their face the city will be begging them to come back. BTW I did look into the Camden Miracle and it was basically busting the union. They reduced the cost of a cop from $189k a year to a little under $100k (salary benefits, support etc). Funny the left doesn't like admitting that. The union is creeping back in as we speak and things will be back the way they were soon enough. You have to look at the reality. There are a few bad cops. The u ions should be trying to get rid of them to benefit the good guys. Unions don't work that way though. This is a tough time to be a cop, no matter how good you are. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 18:51:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/30/2020 2:23 PM, wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:33:06 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/30/2020 9:56 AM, Muggles wrote: On 6/29/2020 5:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k It's time for a mass migration of all LE who worked for that police dept. and they should move out of state where republicans run things. They'll be appreciated, and those cities will be much safer to raise their families, too. LOL! The cops will already be leaving since there is no jobs for them. In a year when this experiment blows up in their face the city will be begging them to come back. BTW I did look into the Camden Miracle and it was basically busting the union. They reduced the cost of a cop from $189k a year to a little under $100k (salary benefits, support etc). Funny the left doesn't like admitting that. The union is creeping back in as we speak and things will be back the way they were soon enough. You have to look at the reality. There are a few bad cops. The u ions should be trying to get rid of them to benefit the good guys. Unions don't work that way though. This is a tough time to be a cop, no matter how good you are. I was pretty serious about being a cop a little over 50 years ago. I passed all the tests and I had the final interview scheduled but the 3 cops I knew talked me out of it. I canceled the interview. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
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Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 19:36:06 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 06/30/2020 06:28 PM, wrote: I was pretty serious about being a cop a little over 50 years ago. I passed all the tests and I had the final interview scheduled but the 3 cops I knew talked me out of it. I canceled the interview. A friend wanted to be a cop but got into a catch 22 situation where you couldn't go to the state police academy unless you were a cop. As a work-around he took a seasonal game warden job that gave him the necessary creds. He told me how he had caught some guy poaching red handed and couldn't believe the guy would stand there and lie to him. All I could say was 'Regan, I don't think you're really cut out for this.' He eventually got on the force in a podunk town in eastern Montana. It was a good fit for him because he took the 'protect and serve' part seriously and wouldn't have to deal with the real scum as a small town cop. One of my IBM buddies got to go to the Florida academy because he was a volunteer deputy. He was a volunteer, sworn, deputy, after that. After several years of political intrigue and a lot of early retirements he was the senior deputy (most time with a badge) in the Charlotte county sheriff department. After he retired from IBM I think he went on salary. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 6:45:25 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/30/2020 1:36 PM, wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:16:27 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:00:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/30/2020 1:14 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:29:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days. That may change the vote. If anything, that should hurry the process to abolish the police force as it currently exists. For Police officers who don't take their responsibilities seriously and call in sick as a form of protest, their exit from public service can't come soon enough. The big question will be whether the Police 2.0 will actually do better. I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Hope is a weak strategy and makes a very thin plan. Before abandoning the old force they should have a plan. OK, they made a big show with their vote but now what? Right. That's essentially the question I asked above. I think they (Mpls) need to move fairly quickly, before things deteriorate further. The police situation could become even more unstable now that they know change is coming. Sadly, a lot of people actually thing NO police are needed. I haven't seen that, but I don't doubt it. I think what's needed is a drastic reduction in the size and scope of police forces. For decades, the mantra has been, "We need more cops on the street." Like a pendulum, I think we've swung way past where we need to be. Reducing the force is going to be a lot harder than growing it, though. Reform may be needed but handling it wrong, making all police into bad guys, will end up with a **** show that can last for years. Certainly a possibility. The pendulum is not a good way to deal with things like the police. DiBlasio is swinging back to the Koch/Dinkins model and his crime rate is starting to show it. The one that impressed me (unfavorably) is what is happening in the schools. They have decided that they don't want resource officers (cops in school) anymore and that the doors will be open (no touching the handles). I am sure that will last until the next time we have someone shot or the drug dealing and strangers wandering around the halls becomes oppressive. Growing up, we had no security in schools. No shootings, no drugs either. Things have changed. I'm not in favor of teachers with a holster on the hip but something should be done. What it is I'll leave to the experts. Why listen to the experts? Here's my opinion: Parents. When we were in school, if we even thought about doing anything out of line we knew we'd get it 10 times as bad when we got home. The question his: how do we get better parents? I'm sure there was a fair amount of pot being dealt in my high school, 1970-1975. Cindy Hamilton |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 7/1/2020 6:25 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 6:45:25 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/30/2020 1:36 PM, wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:16:27 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 10:00:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/30/2020 1:14 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:29:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 6/29/2020 6:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote: Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k Police should all call in sick for a couple of days. That may change the vote. If anything, that should hurry the process to abolish the police force as it currently exists. For Police officers who don't take their responsibilities seriously and call in sick as a form of protest, their exit from public service can't come soon enough. The big question will be whether the Police 2.0 will actually do better. I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Hope is a weak strategy and makes a very thin plan. Before abandoning the old force they should have a plan. OK, they made a big show with their vote but now what? Right. That's essentially the question I asked above. I think they (Mpls) need to move fairly quickly, before things deteriorate further. The police situation could become even more unstable now that they know change is coming. Sadly, a lot of people actually thing NO police are needed. I haven't seen that, but I don't doubt it. I think what's needed is a drastic reduction in the size and scope of police forces. For decades, the mantra has been, "We need more cops on the street." Like a pendulum, I think we've swung way past where we need to be. Reducing the force is going to be a lot harder than growing it, though. Reform may be needed but handling it wrong, making all police into bad guys, will end up with a **** show that can last for years. Certainly a possibility. The pendulum is not a good way to deal with things like the police. DiBlasio is swinging back to the Koch/Dinkins model and his crime rate is starting to show it. The one that impressed me (unfavorably) is what is happening in the schools. They have decided that they don't want resource officers (cops in school) anymore and that the doors will be open (no touching the handles). I am sure that will last until the next time we have someone shot or the drug dealing and strangers wandering around the halls becomes oppressive. Growing up, we had no security in schools. No shootings, no drugs either. Things have changed. I'm not in favor of teachers with a holster on the hip but something should be done. What it is I'll leave to the experts. Why listen to the experts? Here's my opinion: Parents. When we were in school, if we even thought about doing anything out of line we knew we'd get it 10 times as bad when we got home. The question his: how do we get better parents? I'm sure there was a fair amount of pot being dealt in my high school, 1970-1975. Cindy Hamilton Parents today seem to want their kids to learn everything in school or day care. I admit, I'm old fashioned and think that parents should take care of their kids. Yes, some need two incomes, but too often the second income is for a big house, couple of fancy cars and vacations to Disney. Put that aside and raise your kids. |
Minneapolis City Council ABOLISHES Police, Gets Private Security!
On 6/29/2020 4:39 PM, Grumpy Old White Guy wrote:
Minneapolis City Council voted in a 12-0 decision to abolish police in the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHr0acN6Z_k 1 they didn't vote to abolish the police. 2 the vote has no actual effect. 3 there may or may not be a election vote on a charter change that would make some changes the council wants to make easier. 4 it is not at all certain that a charter change would pass. I have not seen support from groups that traditionally represent the Black community, but there has been opposition. Mayor also does not support 5 there is no plan for what some of the council want to do - vaporware - you have to support multiple vague ideas 6 not passing a charter change does not mean the police reform - ongoing - won't continue typical post from GOWG |
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