Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless I
change some settings though .
--
Snag
Witty saying
goes here

On 2020-06-20 19:25, Snag wrote:
Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless I
change some settings though .

Welcome to the Dark Side!

On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless I
change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few problems,
until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me a couple
days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email, but seems to
be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated prefs.js file
that caused it to lose all the connections to all my setting and
email/newsgroup data.

On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â*Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless
I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few problems,
until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me a couple
days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email, but seems to
be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated prefs.js file
that caused it to lose all the connections to all my setting and
email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G

The cheaper ones suck.

-T

On 6/20/2020 11:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â*Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless
I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me
a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email,
but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated
prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections to all my
setting and email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G


The cheaper ones suck.

-T


I have no problems with the cheap ones and have survived many power
failures with them. They keep you on long enough to have a safe shut down.

On 06/21/2020 07:32 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/20/2020 11:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after
uninstalling 68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll
auto-update unless I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me
a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email,
but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated
prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections to all my
setting and email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G


The cheaper ones suck.

-T


I have no problems with the cheap ones and have survived many power
failures with them. They keep you on long enough to have a safe shut down.

Everything fails sooner or later but the cheap ones tend to fail sooner.
I haven't done a nose count but we must have at least 50 computers in my
department alone so it's a larger sample.

The annoying thing is when they fail it's worse than no UPS. during
those brief flashes where everyone screams 'Oh ****!' it's the boxes
with faulty UPSes that go down when even those just plugged into the
wall survive.

On 6/21/2020 12:32 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 06/21/2020 07:32 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/20/2020 11:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â*Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after
uninstalling 68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll
auto-update unless I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me
a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email,
but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated
prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections to all my
setting and email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G



The cheaper ones suck.

-T


I have no problems with the cheap ones and have survived many power
failures with them.Â* They keep you on long enough to have a safe shut
down.

Everything fails sooner or later but the cheap ones tend to fail sooner.
I haven't done a nose count but we must have at least 50 computers in my
department alone so it's a larger sample.

The annoying thing is when they fail it's worse than no UPS. during
those brief flashes where everyone screams 'Oh ****!' it's the boxes
with faulty UPSes that go down when even those just plugged into the
wall survive.

You have a lot more experience than me. I figure you only need a minute
or two of reserve power to enact a safe shutdown.

Years ago I had a Gateway computer go down in a power failure and had
all kinds of problems. Hard drives cannot take a hard shut down.

Now I even plug the UPS into surge protector. One day while on line a
branch down the street came down shorting the high tension to the low
tension wire. Every surge protector in the house got fried including
the one to the UPS but computer survived. I did lose a microwave.

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 10:32:04 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 06/21/2020 07:32 AM, Frank wrote:
On 6/20/2020 11:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after
uninstalling 68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll
auto-update unless I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me
a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email,
but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated
prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections to all my
setting and email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G


The cheaper ones suck.

-T


I have no problems with the cheap ones and have survived many power
failures with them. They keep you on long enough to have a safe shut down.

Everything fails sooner or later but the cheap ones tend to fail sooner.
I haven't done a nose count but we must have at least 50 computers in my
department alone so it's a larger sample.

The annoying thing is when they fail it's worse than no UPS. during
those brief flashes where everyone screams 'Oh ****!' it's the boxes
with faulty UPSes that go down when even those just plugged into the
wall survive.
I've got no use for the over-hyped APC units - an associate told me
years ago it means "A Piece of Crap"and I fully concur. I've been
selling Powerware and it's predecessors for about 30 years (Best Power
and Eaton) Their line interactive unit is as low as I'll go even with
their products unless a customer insists - I've sold a fair amount of
their "dual conversion" or "online" systems. A "standby" system is
just a false sense of security, IMNSHO.
An APC online unit IS available but they are overpriced - they spend
too much money on retail advertising.

On 2020-06-21 06:32, Frank wrote:
On 6/20/2020 11:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â*Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after
uninstalling 68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll
auto-update unless I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me
a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email,
but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated
prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections to all my
setting and email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G


The cheaper ones suck.

-T


I have no problems with the cheap ones and have survived many power
failures with them.Â* They keep you on long enough to have a safe shut down.

Hi Frank,

It is my experience with my numberous customer usign these
tings, that the cheap ones

1) don't provide enough power
2) are terrible at surge suppression
3) do not mechanically step up / step down under / over voltages
4) crap out a lot
5) don't have a feedback mechanism to tell your computer when they are
browning out

You pay for what you get.

-T

On 6/21/2020 4:55 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-21 06:32, Frank wrote:
On 6/20/2020 11:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-06-20 19:57, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â*Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after
uninstalling 68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll
auto-update unless I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took
me a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and
email, but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a
mutilated prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections
to all my setting and email/newsgroup data.

Hi Bob,

Get one of these:

https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/produ...o-700/P-BR700G


The cheaper ones suck.

-T


I have no problems with the cheap ones and have survived many power
failures with them.Â* They keep you on long enough to have a safe shut
down.

Hi Frank,

It is my experience with my numberous customer usign these
tings, that the cheap ones

1) don't provide enough power
2) are terrible at surge suppression
3) do not mechanically step up / step down under / over voltages
4) crap out a lot
5) don't have a feedback mechanism to tell your computer when they are
browning out

You pay for what you get.

-T


Have not had any problems and it is plugged into a surge protector but I
will consider getting better when this one fails.

On 6/20/2020 10:57 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â*Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless
I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few problems,
until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me a couple
days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email, but seems to
be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated prefs.js file
that caused it to lose all the connections to all my setting and
email/newsgroup data.
Get a cheap UPS unit and avoid potential problems. I have them on the
cable boxes since they take forever to reboot after a few second outage.

Cable company owns the box so no cost to me if they get cooked but the
PITA is worth it.

On 6/20/2020 8:41 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/20/2020 10:57 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 6/20/2020 7:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â*Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless
I change some settings though .

I have been using Tbird after upgrading from XP to 7 with few
problems, until I had a power outage a few days ago. That one took me
a couple days to figure out and restore all my newsgroups and email,
but seems to be working great again. It turned out to be a mutilated
prefs.js file that caused it to lose all the connections to all my
setting and email/newsgroup data.
Get a cheap UPS unit and avoid potential problems.Â* I have them on the
cable boxes since they take forever to reboot after a few second outage.

Cable company owns the box so no cost to me if they get cooked but the
PITA is worth it.

My problem was a vandal crow. Power company guys say it happens this
time of the year for about 3 months. Not any other time. Crow lands on
the transformer, then pecks the top of it until it reaches up to the top
of the insulator. Than BANG! Dead crop was at the bottom of the pole.
The fuse was clearly blown. I guess 6-7 amps at 15000 volts is enough to
cook a crow.

On 6/20/2020 10:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless I
change some settings though .

I never got the complete install of T-bird that I wanted on a second
computer even copying over the whole profile. I have mentioned in the
Mozilla newsgroup that it would be nice of they had a sync like in
Firefox where you can duplicate on a second system.

On 6/20/2020 9:25 PM, Snag wrote:
Â* Earlier version , 60.6.1 , I did a cold restart after uninstalling
68.9.1 and started from scratch . Looks like it'll auto-update unless I
change some settings though .



I am locked in at 60.9

The newer versions really sucked on Windows.


Seems ok on Linux though