On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:02:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 19:46:32 -0400, Frank wrote:

On 6/15/2020 5:10 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:45:11 -0700, Bob F wrote:

Two references for your thought

"The new coronavirus spreads mainly via airborne transmission and
wearing a mask is the most effective way to stop person-to person
spread, according to a new study.

A team of researchers in Texas and California compared Covid-19
infection rate trends in Italy and New York both before and after face
masks were made mandatory. Both locations started to see infection
rates
flatten only after mandatory face mask measures were put in place,
according to the study published Thursday in the Proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences.

The researchers calculated that wearing face masks prevented more than
78,000 infections in Italy between April 6 and May 9, and more than
66,000 infections in New York City between April 17 and May 9.

"Wearing of face masks in public corresponds to the most effective
means
to prevent interhuman transmission, and this inexpensive practice, in
conjunction with simultaneous social distancing, quarantine, and
contact
tracing, represents the most likely fighting opportunity to stop the
COVID-19 pandemic, prior to the development of a vaccine" they wrote."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/healt...rnd/index.html

"Face masks dont even have to work especially well to be effective"

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...d-19-pandemic/

It could also be said the economy opened up more and more people were
mingling.

I bet a big part of the spike here is all of these protests. Those
people are not doing anything right if avoiding the virus is on their
mind.
Of course the tear gas doesn't help. Everyone is coughing.


While the virus might exist for a while on surfaces they are saying most
of the spread is person to person through sprays created when people
sneeze or cough or even talk and any mask is better than nothing.

Perhaps if you are coughing and sneezing it would be worthwhile,
assuming a real mask, not a bandanna tied "frito bandito" around your
face and if that real mask was properly worn. Both are rare.
Unfortunately the reality is most of the "masks" I see are fashion
statements, not medical protection.

They are still better than nothing, particularly on
public transport when they are worn over the nose.

Then there are the people who are not coughing
and sneezing. What is the mask doing for them?

Significantly reducing the spread of the virus by
those who are infected and asymptomatic or
pre symptomatic and significantly reducing the
risk of getting infect on public transport etc.

Suddenly you have me on a bus. I haven't been on one in 50 years and I
have no plans to fly soon, maybe never again.

If you are staying your required six feet away,
they shouldn't be spitting on you when they talk.

But you still get significant spread of the virus
inside building by the ventilation system.

That is far from proven or even really investigated. It is just a few
computer models. If that was the case, the mask is very little help,
nor is distancing. The virus still penetrates the mask and if that can
be picked up by the A/C we are all doomed.

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:02:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 19:46:32 -0400, Frank wrote:

On 6/15/2020 5:10 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:45:11 -0700, Bob F wrote:

Two references for your thought

"The new coronavirus spreads mainly via airborne transmission and
wearing a mask is the most effective way to stop person-to person
spread, according to a new study.

A team of researchers in Texas and California compared Covid-19
infection rate trends in Italy and New York both before and after
face
masks were made mandatory. Both locations started to see infection
rates
flatten only after mandatory face mask measures were put in place,
according to the study published Thursday in the Proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences.

The researchers calculated that wearing face masks prevented more
than
78,000 infections in Italy between April 6 and May 9, and more than
66,000 infections in New York City between April 17 and May 9.

"Wearing of face masks in public corresponds to the most effective
means
to prevent interhuman transmission, and this inexpensive practice, in
conjunction with simultaneous social distancing, quarantine, and
contact
tracing, represents the most likely fighting opportunity to stop the
COVID-19 pandemic, prior to the development of a vaccine" they
wrote."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/healt...rnd/index.html

"Face masks dont even have to work especially well to be effective"

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...d-19-pandemic/

It could also be said the economy opened up more and more people were
mingling.

I bet a big part of the spike here is all of these protests. Those
people are not doing anything right if avoiding the virus is on their
mind.
Of course the tear gas doesn't help. Everyone is coughing.


While the virus might exist for a while on surfaces they are saying most
of the spread is person to person through sprays created when people
sneeze or cough or even talk and any mask is better than nothing.

Perhaps if you are coughing and sneezing it would be worthwhile,
assuming a real mask, not a bandanna tied "frito bandito" around your
face and if that real mask was properly worn. Both are rare.
Unfortunately the reality is most of the "masks" I see are fashion
statements, not medical protection.

They are still better than nothing, particularly on
public transport when they are worn over the nose.

Then there are the people who are not coughing
and sneezing. What is the mask doing for them?

Significantly reducing the spread of the virus by
those who are infected and asymptomatic or
pre symptomatic and significantly reducing the
risk of getting infect on public transport etc.

Suddenly you have me on a bus. I haven't been on one in
50 years and I have no plans to fly soon, maybe never again.

You have always been, and always will be, completely
and utterly irrelevant. How you travel in spades.

If you are staying your required six feet away,
they shouldn't be spitting on you when they talk.

But you still get significant spread of the virus
inside buildings by the ventilation system.

That is far from proven or even really investigated.

Wrong, as always. And that stuff has to go somewhere, stupid.

It is just a few computer models.

Its actually been measured and its trivial to do that.

If that was the case,

It is.

the mask is very little help,

Wrong, as always.

nor is distancing.

Wrong, as always.

The virus still penetrates the mask

Wrong, as always.

and if that can be picked up by the A/C we are all doomed.

Wrong, as always.

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