FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the
international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war -- Bod |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote:
According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote:
On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" -- Bod |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote:
On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes. OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want. It's called capitalism, get it? |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote:
On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... -- Bod |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 14/09/2019 15:00, Bod wrote:
On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... More FACTS: Together, certified organic cropland and pasture accounted for about 0.6 percent of the U.S. total farmland in 2011. Only a small percentage of the top U.S. field crops€”corn (0.3 percent), soybeans (0.2 percent), and wheat (0.6 percent)€”were grown under certified organic farming systems. Documentation - USDA ERS https://www.ers.usda.gov €º data-products €º organic-production €º documenta... -- Bod |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 14/09/2019 15:08, Bod wrote:
On 14/09/2019 15:00, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want. It's called capitalism, get it? Â* Â* You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... More FACTS: Â*Together, certified organic cropland and pasture accounted for about 0.6 percent of the U.S. total farmland in 2011. Only a small percentage of the top U.S. field crops€”corn (0.3 percent), soybeans (0.2 percent), and wheat (0.6 percent)€”were grown under certified organic farming systems. Documentation - USDA ERS https://www.ers.usda.gov €º data-products €º organic-production €º documenta... UPDATE: Organic farming statistics - Statistics Explained https://ec.europa.eu €º eurostat €º statistics-explained €º index.php €º Organic... 30 Jan 2019 - Data from January 2019. Planned update: January ... Organic area made up 7% of total EU agricultural land in 2017. This article describes the ... -- Bod |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:52:35 -0400, devnull wrote:
On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes. And yet they DID "have what it takes" before the tariffs. Must be a coincidence... []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 14/09/2019 15:14, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:52:35 -0400, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes. And yet they DID "have what it takes" before the tariffs. Must be a coincidence... []'s The daily bull**** from Trump and Trumpets is simply unbelievable. -- Bod |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade.. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... -- Bod The silliness of the trumptards never ceases to amaze. Not only is organic small, if you look at that 2%, the intersection with that and the rotting soybeans and similar is a tiny part of even that. What people are buying as organic here mostly are vegetables, fruits, etc for human consumption, eg lettuce, carrots, tomatoes and apples. And China sure isn't saying we're not buying your crops because we want organic. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/2019 10:35 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... -- Bod The silliness of the trumptards never ceases to amaze. Not only is organic small, if you look at that 2%, the intersection with that and the rotting soybeans and similar is a tiny part of even that. What people are buying as organic here mostly are vegetables, fruits, etc for human consumption, eg lettuce, carrots, tomatoes and apples. And China sure isn't saying we're not buying your crops because we want organic. Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 12:16:28 PM UTC-4, Bod F wrote:
On 9/14/2019 10:35 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... -- Bod The silliness of the trumptards never ceases to amaze. Not only is organic small, if you look at that 2%, the intersection with that and the rotting soybeans and similar is a tiny part of even that. What people are buying as organic here mostly are vegetables, fruits, etc for human consumption, eg lettuce, carrots, tomatoes and apples. And China sure isn't saying we're not buying your crops because we want organic. Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. How many organic farmers were affected by Trump's trade war, stupid? Like I said, they are a fraction of a percent of all farming and are producing mostly crops that humans eat here, eg lettuce, carrots, and apples, not the 99% of major crops, eg soybeans and corn that we export and that were hit by retaliation in Trump's trade war. The major world markets aren't feeding their animals organic soybeans. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 14/09/2019 17:16, Bod F wrote:
On 9/14/2019 10:35 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â*Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? Â* Â* You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... -- Bod The silliness of the trumptards never ceases to amaze.Â* Not only is organic small, if you look at that 2%, the intersection with that and the rotting soybeans and similar is a tiny part of even that.Â* What people are buying as organic here mostly are vegetables, fruits, etc for human consumption, eg lettuce, carrots, tomatoes and apples. And China sure isn't saying we're not buying your crops because we want organic. Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. Wow, trumpet logic, LOL. If the demand is only 3.5%, are farmers gonna *make* the other 96½ % of folk buy organic. Jeez! -- Bod |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:16:20 -0400, Bod F wrote:
Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. And no tariffs on what they produce either. Yet another coincidence.... Seems the only common denominator for bankruptcy is .... TARIFFS. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 09/14/2019 10:58 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:16:20 -0400, Bod F wrote: Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. And no tariffs on what they produce either. Yet another coincidence.... Seems the only common denominator for bankruptcy is .... TARIFFS. Tariffs are the proverbial straw. The government has been propping up agricultural producers for decades. As Earl Butz said when he set USDA policy 'Get big or get out.' The weaker members of the herd are getting culled. iirc Brazil brought a complaint against the US cotton subsidies to the WTO in 2002. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:38:42 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 09/14/2019 10:58 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:16:20 -0400, Bod F wrote: Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. And no tariffs on what they produce either. Yet another coincidence.... Seems the only common denominator for bankruptcy is .... TARIFFS. Tariffs are the proverbial straw. The government has been propping up agricultural producers for decades. As Earl Butz said when he set USDA policy 'Get big or get out.' The weaker members of the herd are getting culled. iirc Brazil brought a complaint against the US cotton subsidies to the WTO in 2002. In 2002 our president was a US agent. What was his boss's name? Hedge? Rush? Brush? Can't remember, it was so long ago. So, farmers are going bankrupt THIS LAST YEAR because of something from 2002? Sounds like something from a Tom Cruise (the actor with the bad breath) film.... []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/19 9:14 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:52:35 -0400, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes. And yet they DID "have what it takes" before the tariffs. Must be a coincidence... []'s Which is why farm programs have existed since the 1930s. A bit here if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Credit_Corporation I've been on or around farms all of my 60 plus years. There have "always" been farm programs. The first I remember is loans against the value of the crop. The old corn cribs had some sort of weather resistant sign on them saying the crop was mortgaged. The other most memorable one was the PIK (Payment in Kind) program. There was a lot of ground idled during that. Some he https://www.gao.gov/products/RCED-85-60 Farms were organic way back when. Why do you suppose most farmers started using the chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and insecticides? |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:22:28 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 9/14/19 9:14 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:52:35 -0400, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes. And yet they DID "have what it takes" before the tariffs. Must be a coincidence... []'s Which is why farm programs have existed since the 1930s. A bit here if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Credit_Corporation I've been on or around farms all of my 60 plus years. There have "always" been farm programs. The first I remember is loans against the value of the crop. The old corn cribs had some sort of weather resistant sign on them saying the crop was mortgaged. The other most memorable one was the PIK (Payment in Kind) program. There was a lot of ground idled during that. Some he https://www.gao.gov/products/RCED-85-60 Farms were organic way back when. Why do you suppose most farmers started using the chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and insecticides? Works the same here. But since Bolsonaro has decreed we can't sell to "communist". "socialist" or "Muslim" countries, no buyers. Prices of soy and corn here halved. But the bank interest rate on the loans almost doubled. Our farmers are going bankrupt too. Maybe American might be interested in importing our corn and soy? It's highly contaminated with deadly chemicals, but it's half price .... the average American wouldn't even notice. Bribe the food inspectors and it's a win-win. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/19 7:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:22:28 -0500, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 9/14/19 9:14 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 09:52:35 -0400, devnull wrote: Some cut. And yet they DID "have what it takes" before the tariffs. Must be a coincidence... []'s Which is why farm programs have existed since the 1930s. A bit here if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Credit_Corporation I've been on or around farms all of my 60 plus years. There have "always" been farm programs. The first I remember is loans against the value of the crop. The old corn cribs had some sort of weather resistant sign on them saying the crop was mortgaged. The other most memorable one was the PIK (Payment in Kind) program. There was a lot of ground idled during that. Some he https://www.gao.gov/products/RCED-85-60 Farms were organic way back when. Why do you suppose most farmers started using the chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and insecticides? Works the same here. But since Bolsonaro has decreed we can't sell to "communist". "socialist" or "Muslim" countries, no buyers. Prices of soy and corn here halved. But the bank interest rate on the loans almost doubled. Our farmers are going bankrupt too. Maybe American might be interested in importing our corn and soy? It's highly contaminated with deadly chemicals, but it's half price .... the average American wouldn't even notice. Bribe the food inspectors and it's a win-win. []'s Farmers had some really good times here in the central U.S. about five years ago. Some guys got a little careless. Buy equipment and/or land? Let the government take it in taxes? No good options sometimes. Farmers here are a bit like royalty. They're born into it or marry into it. I can't imagine the average city guy being a farmer. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 09/14/2019 12:08 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:38:42 -0600, rbowman wrote: On 09/14/2019 10:58 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:16:20 -0400, Bod F wrote: Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. And no tariffs on what they produce either. Yet another coincidence.... Seems the only common denominator for bankruptcy is .... TARIFFS. Tariffs are the proverbial straw. The government has been propping up agricultural producers for decades. As Earl Butz said when he set USDA policy 'Get big or get out.' The weaker members of the herd are getting culled. iirc Brazil brought a complaint against the US cotton subsidies to the WTO in 2002. In 2002 our president was a US agent. What was his boss's name? Hedge? Rush? Brush? Can't remember, it was so long ago. So, farmers are going bankrupt THIS LAST YEAR because of something from 2002? Sounds like something from a Tom Cruise (the actor with the bad breath) film.... Er, no. Did you miss the entire point that US agriculture is heavily subsidized and controlled by the government? The latest thing to have the corn growers' knickers in a knot is Trump is allowing small refiners to not blend in as much alcohol. The whole gasahol requirement thing was a gift to the corn growers and now they whine if they think it will mean less of a market. Study the history of US soy production. It's not the most useful crop in the world; you can hardly eat the damn things if they haven't been modified in some way. I was in Indiana in the '80s and the farmers were up to their asses in soybeans. The silos were bursting. And yet the USDA was advising tobacco farmers to grow soy to offset the government programs against tobacco. The whole thing is like a Soviet 5 year plan developed by pre-schoolers. The tariff hoo-hah is just the latest chapter. Why the hell should US farmers be dependent on a market in China? When you overproduce you have to dump the product someplace. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 09/14/2019 04:22 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Farms were organic way back when. Why do you suppose most farmers started using the chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and insecticides? Earl Butz? Go big or get out? Fence to fence cultivation? Butz figured hungry peasants are dangerous peasants so keeping the bread flowing to the masses cheaply was needed. He just didn't foresee industrial farming being so efficient. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 09/14/2019 06:59 PM, Shadow wrote:
Maybe American might be interested in importing our corn and soy? It's highly contaminated with deadly chemicals, but it's half price .... the average American wouldn't even notice. Bribe the food inspectors and it's a win-win. Shipping coal to Newcastle... Besides dent corn and soybeans are not directly edible. By the time the consumer sees products derived from either they're either been passed through a cow or pig or converted into high fructose corn syrup, textured soy protein or some other product that adds more chemicals. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/2019 9:46 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 12:16:28 PM UTC-4, Bod F wrote: On 9/14/2019 10:35 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... -- Bod The silliness of the trumptards never ceases to amaze. Not only is organic small, if you look at that 2%, the intersection with that and the rotting soybeans and similar is a tiny part of even that. What people are buying as organic here mostly are vegetables, fruits, etc for human consumption, eg lettuce, carrots, tomatoes and apples. And China sure isn't saying we're not buying your crops because we want organic. Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. How many organic farmers were affected by Trump's trade war, stupid? Like I said, they are a fraction of a percent of all farming and are producing mostly crops that humans eat here, eg lettuce, carrots, and apples, not the 99% of major crops, eg soybeans and corn that we export and that were hit by retaliation in Trump's trade war. The major world markets aren't feeding their animals organic soybeans. Soy and corn are probably mostly GMO so they can be flooded with glyphosate, so not many organic farmers are probably growing them. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/2019 6:48 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 09/14/2019 12:08 PM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:38:42 -0600, rbowman wrote: On 09/14/2019 10:58 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:16:20 -0400, Bod F wrote: Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. ****And no tariffs on what they produce either. ****Yet another coincidence.... ****Seems the only common denominator for bankruptcy is .... TARIFFS. Tariffs are the proverbial straw. The government has been propping up agricultural producers for decades. As Earl Butz said when he set USDA policy 'Get big or get out.' The weaker members of the herd are getting culled. iirc Brazil brought a complaint against the US cotton subsidies to the WTO in 2002. ****In 2002 our president was a US agent. What was his boss's name? Hedge? Rush? Brush? Can't remember, it was so long ago. ****So, farmers are going bankrupt THIS LAST YEAR because of something from 2002? ****Sounds like something from a Tom Cruise (the actor with the bad breath) film.... Er, no. Did you miss the entire point that US agriculture is heavily subsidized and controlled by the government? The latest thing to have the corn growers' knickers in a knot is Trump is allowing small refiners to not blend in as much alcohol. The whole gasahol requirement thing was a gift to the corn growers and now they whine if they think it will mean less of a market. Study the history of US soy production. It's not the most useful crop in the world; you can hardly eat the damn things if they haven't been modified in some way. I was in Indiana in the '80s and the farmers were up to their asses in soybeans. The silos were bursting. And yet the USDA was advising tobacco farmers to grow soy to offset the government programs against tobacco. The whole thing is like a Soviet 5 year plan developed by pre-schoolers. The tariff hoo-hah is just the latest chapter. Why the hell should US farmers be dependent on a market in China? When you overproduce you have to dump the product someplace. I wonder what percentage of the farm welfare payments are going to mega-ag corporate businesses? And how many of the few small farms are being sucked up by them. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/14/19 11:27 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 9/14/2019 9:46 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 12:16:28 PM UTC-4, Bod F wrote: On 9/14/2019 10:35 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 14:52, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 6:07 AM, Bod wrote: On 14/09/2019 10:59, devnull wrote: On 9/14/19 5:19 AM, Bod wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war Organic farmers here are doing great...even without the USDA's welfare subsidies. Of course if you don't like organic, you can always eat genetically modified crops grown in nutrient-depleted soil and marinated in glyphosate. It's all about free choice. https://www.motherjones.com/food/201...-conventional/ Â* Â* Not much good if you're farm has gone bankrupt, leaving you with no money and debts. "bankruptcies skyrocket" Running a business is not easy, some farmers just don't have what it takes.Â* OTOH, the smart organic farmers are thriving. It's all about supply and demand and providing what people want.Â* It's called capitalism, get it? Â*Â* Â*Â* You call 2% a high demand? Sales of organic food have grown by 20 percent annually, and experts predict that the industry's share of the U.S. food market is expected to grow from about 2 percent to roughly 3.5 percent by the end of the decade. Demand for Organic Food Growing Faster than Domestic Supply https://www.organicconsumers.org €º news €º demand-organic-food-growing-... -- Bod The silliness of the trumptards never ceases to amaze.Â* Not only is organic small, if you look at that 2%, the intersection with that and the rotting soybeans and similar is a tiny part of even that.Â* What people are buying as organic here mostly are vegetables, fruits, etc for human consumption, eg lettuce, carrots, tomatoes and apples. And China sure isn't saying we're not buying your crops because we want organic. Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. How many organic farmers were affected by Trump's trade war, stupid? Like I said, they are a fraction of a percent of all farming and are producing mostly crops that humans eat here, eg lettuce, carrots, and apples, not the 99% of major crops, eg soybeans and corn that we export and that were hit by retaliation in Trump's trade war. The major world markets aren't feeding their animals organic soybeans. Soy and corn are probably mostly GMO so they can be flooded with glyphosate, so not many organic farmers are probably growing them. True organic farming practices currently prohibit GMO seeds and glyphosate but I doubt anyone at the USDA gives a ****. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:48:23 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 09/14/2019 12:08 PM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:38:42 -0600, rbowman wrote: On 09/14/2019 10:58 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:16:20 -0400, Bod F wrote: Yet I don't know of a single organic farmer who has gone bankrupt. And no tariffs on what they produce either. Yet another coincidence.... Seems the only common denominator for bankruptcy is .... TARIFFS. Tariffs are the proverbial straw. The government has been propping up agricultural producers for decades. As Earl Butz said when he set USDA policy 'Get big or get out.' The weaker members of the herd are getting culled. iirc Brazil brought a complaint against the US cotton subsidies to the WTO in 2002. In 2002 our president was a US agent. What was his boss's name? Hedge? Rush? Brush? Can't remember, it was so long ago. So, farmers are going bankrupt THIS LAST YEAR because of something from 2002? Sounds like something from a Tom Cruise (the actor with the bad breath) film.... Er, no. Did you miss the entire point that US agriculture is heavily subsidized and controlled by the government? The latest thing to have the corn growers' knickers in a knot is Trump is allowing small refiners to not blend in as much alcohol. The whole gasahol requirement thing was a gift to the corn growers and now they whine if they think it will mean less of a market. A gift to corn growers? It was a gift to consumers. Almost all Brazilian cars are hybrid, you can use petrol, alcohol or a mixture, and the onboard computer works out the timing. You DO need a liter of petrol in a container, which is used to start the car if temps drop bellow a certain value. Alcohol won't burn in the cold. It's automatic, used only if the computer says it's needed. Currently with the ban on export and the hike on petrol prices (increasing it so it's be even more profitable to our masters after our oilfields are sold) you get almost TWICE as many KM for your money when you use alcohol. Note our alcohol is made from sugar cane(cheap). Corn should be made into gut-rot and sold at high prices to redneck trumpets. They don't have any neurons left, so nothing lost. Study the history of US soy production. It's not the most useful crop in the world; you can hardly eat the damn things if they haven't been modified in some way. I was in Indiana in the '80s and the farmers were up to their asses in soybeans. The silos were bursting. And yet the USDA was advising tobacco farmers to grow soy to offset the government programs against tobacco. Soy ? I'm not too fond of it, but I occasionally make sprouts. My wife likes tofu. It's very easy to make at home. It's pretty healthy stuff, no fat, lotsa protein, but I prefer cheese myself. Thank soy for the protein in most of the meat you eat (assuming pork and chicken and FAUX-burgers). Animal rations. Soy oil used in tons of stuff from soap to plastics Hello! Wake up! We evolved..... don't forage for food anymore. The whole thing is like a Soviet 5 year plan developed by pre-schoolers. The tariff hoo-hah is just the latest chapter. You're probably right. Like the elections, huh? It's incredible Facebook + Putin managed to pull it off. []'s Why the hell should US farmers be dependent on a market in China? When you overproduce you have to dump the product someplace. -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:30:44 -0700, Bob F wrote:
The whole thing is like a Soviet 5 year plan developed by pre-schoolers. The tariff hoo-hah is just the latest chapter. Why the hell should US farmers be dependent on a market in China? When you overproduce you have to dump the product someplace. I wonder what percentage of the farm welfare payments are going to mega-ag corporate businesses? And how many of the few small farms are being sucked up by them. You mean firms like Monsanto? It would never happen in Amerika. If that nasty transgenic Monsanto pollen ever contaminated a farmer's corn, he would sue for rape. And make the lobbies pay for it. Justice would only side with the government (AKA lobbies) in a communist dictatorship. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/15/19 7:46 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:30:44 -0700, Bob F wrote: The whole thing is like a Soviet 5 year plan developed by pre-schoolers. The tariff hoo-hah is just the latest chapter. Why the hell should US farmers be dependent on a market in China? When you overproduce you have to dump the product someplace. I wonder what percentage of the farm welfare payments are going to mega-ag corporate businesses? And how many of the few small farms are being sucked up by them. You mean firms like Monsanto? It would never happen in Amerika. If that nasty transgenic Monsanto pollen ever contaminated a farmer's corn, he would sue for rape. And make the lobbies pay for it. Justice would only side with the government (AKA lobbies) in a communist dictatorship. []'s You'll have to pick on Bayer now. Monsanto merged with Bayer and the Monsanto name was dropped. Yes, the people who make Alka Seltzer, Aleve, Aspirin, One a Day vitamins and other things. The guys who care about cross pollination are the guys who raise the seed corn. They have rules to follow to prevent that contamination. One of those is no corn in the particular field the year before planting the seed corn. There are a lot more soybeans around here partly because of that. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 14 Sep 2019 10:19:32 +0100, Bod
wrote: According to a recent report from the Nebraska Farm Bureau, the international tariffs are costing farmers in the state $943 million in lost revenue. The projected losses would be in addition to tariff-related losses in farm-level income estimated between $695 million to $1.026 billion in 2018, according to the report. Beyond Nebraska, Midwest farmers are also feeling the strain as bankruptcies skyrocket. Data from the American Farm Bureau Federation published in July showed delinquency rates are at a six-year high for commercial agricultural loans in both the real estate and non-real estate lending. Wisconsin, Kansas, and Minnesota are leading the nation in Chapter 12 filings. Bankruptcy filings in Kansas and Minnesota increased so significantly in the past year that they reached the highest levels of the past decade, according to the report. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mid...hina-trade-war But from what I've heard, so far, as a group, only the black farmers have complained about this. I guess the white farmers still have hope, but it will be interesting to see if they hold out all the way through the 2020 election. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 9:18:59 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 9/15/19 7:46 AM, Shadow wrote: On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:30:44 -0700, Bob F wrote: The whole thing is like a Soviet 5 year plan developed by pre-schoolers. The tariff hoo-hah is just the latest chapter. Why the hell should US farmers be dependent on a market in China? When you overproduce you have to dump the product someplace. I wonder what percentage of the farm welfare payments are going to mega-ag corporate businesses? And how many of the few small farms are being sucked up by them. You mean firms like Monsanto? It would never happen in Amerika. If that nasty transgenic Monsanto pollen ever contaminated a farmer's corn, he would sue for rape. And make the lobbies pay for it. Justice would only side with the government (AKA lobbies) in a communist dictatorship. []'s You'll have to pick on Bayer now. Monsanto merged with Bayer and the Monsanto name was dropped. Yes, the people who make Alka Seltzer, Aleve, Aspirin, One a Day vitamins and other things. I wonder what, if anything, has happened to the geniuses at Bayer that bought Monsanto for top dollar just before those Roundup cases went into the toilet with hundreds of millions of judgments awarded? I mean, that's got to be one of the worst acquisition moves ever. Did they even do any due diligence to correctly assess the risks? Now if you look at late night TV, the shyster lawyers are running 30 min infomercials rounding up everyone they can to sue Bayer for their big pay day. Monsanto probably should have had some warning on the labels saying it could be harmful, not to get it on yourself, etc. Silly me, but I've always treated any herbicide, pesticide, most solvents, etc that way. The first case was a janitor that claimed he was covered in it many times, applying it around a school. i've sprayed it around the property here for decades, I've never been covered in it. I do usually apply it and any other products after I'm done with any other work and take a shower afterwards. Call me logical. The guys who care about cross pollination are the guys who raise the seed corn. They have rules to follow to prevent that contamination. One of those is no corn in the particular field the year before planting the seed corn. There are a lot more soybeans around here partly because of that. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/15/19 10:11 AM, trader_4 wrote:
I wonder what, if anything, has happened to the geniuses at Bayer that bought Monsanto for top dollar just before those Roundup cases went into the toilet with hundreds of millions of judgments awarded? I mean, that's got to be one of the worst acquisition moves ever. Did they even do any due diligence to correctly assess the risks? Now if you look at late night TV, the shyster lawyers are running 30 min infomercials rounding up everyone they can to sue Bayer for their big pay day. Monsanto probably should have had some warning on the labels saying it could be harmful, not to get it on yourself, etc. Silly me, but I've always treated any herbicide, pesticide, most solvents, etc that way. The first case was a janitor that claimed he was covered in it many times, applying it around a school. i've sprayed it around the property here for decades, I've never been covered in it. I do usually apply it and any other products after I'm done with any other work and take a shower afterwards. Call me logical. Yah, and then there's that glyphosate/antibiotic/gut-biome thing. I suspect the government will soon declare Bayer too big to fail and somehow protect Bayer/Monsanto from future judgments. There's so much money involved, the truth must never come out. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 9/15/19 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote:
Some cut. I wonder what, if anything, has happened to the geniuses at Bayer that bought Monsanto for top dollar just before those Roundup cases went into the toilet with hundreds of millions of judgments awarded? I mean, that's got to be one of the worst acquisition moves ever. Did they even do any due diligence to correctly assess the risks? Now if you look at late night TV, the shyster lawyers are running 30 min infomercials rounding up everyone they can to sue Bayer for their big pay day. Monsanto probably should have had some warning on the labels saying it could be harmful, not to get it on yourself, etc. Silly me, but I've always treated any herbicide, pesticide, most solvents, etc that way. The first case was a janitor that claimed he was covered in it many times, applying it around a school. i've sprayed it around the property here for decades, I've never been covered in it. I do usually apply it and any other products after I'm done with any other work and take a shower afterwards. Call me logical. I can't imagine there not being warnings on farm chemicals but can't claim I've actually read them. Farm kids just knew that stuff. That janitor is a good example of the saying "Common sense isn't". |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 12:07:36 PM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 9/15/19 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote: Some cut. I wonder what, if anything, has happened to the geniuses at Bayer that bought Monsanto for top dollar just before those Roundup cases went into the toilet with hundreds of millions of judgments awarded? I mean, that's got to be one of the worst acquisition moves ever. Did they even do any due diligence to correctly assess the risks? Now if you look at late night TV, the shyster lawyers are running 30 min infomercials rounding up everyone they can to sue Bayer for their big pay day. Monsanto probably should have had some warning on the labels saying it could be harmful, not to get it on yourself, etc. Silly me, but I've always treated any herbicide, pesticide, most solvents, etc that way. The first case was a janitor that claimed he was covered in it many times, applying it around a school. i've sprayed it around the property here for decades, I've never been covered in it. I do usually apply it and any other products after I'm done with any other work and take a shower afterwards. Call me logical. I can't imagine there not being warnings on farm chemicals but can't claim I've actually read them. Farm kids just knew that stuff. That janitor is a good example of the saying "Common sense isn't". Here's a current label: https://natseed.com/pdf/Roundup%20Pro%20Label.pdf They say you should wear long sleeve clothes, socks, shoes, wash hands before eating. They also say it's supposed to be safe for animals, but if they eat enough plants treated with it they could have temporary gastric symptoms, vomiting, etc. I think they could have expanded that a bit and some of it isn't exactly clear. Like wearing long sleeves. That would seem to imply that you should avoid skin contact, so why not say that? Is it OK if you wear a long sleave shirt and it gets wet with it? I mean, you'd think people would have sense enough, but some won't. As to putting any new warnings on there, we have this: https://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20...for-glyphosate EPA Won't Approve Warning Labels for Glyphosate Aug. 12, 2019 -- Warning labels for the suspected cancer-causing weed killer glyphosate (Roundup) won't be approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. The International Agency for Research on Cancer says glyphosate is "probably carcinogenic," which has led California to require warning labels on glyphosate products, the Associated Press reported. However, California hasn't enforced the warning label rule because Roundup maker Monsanto last year obtained a court order blocking the warning labels until the lawsuit is resolved. The EPA says its research shows the chemical poses no risks to public health and won't approve warning labels for glyphosate products, the AP reported. If I was on those juries, I'd have a hard time reconciling that RU is causing lymphoma when only some studies have shown a possible link, but: 1 - while RU use exploded in the last 4 decades, there has been no corresponding increase in non-hodgkins lymphoma. 2 - The biggest study of farmers that encompassed following farmers in a couple of states for a long time found a lower incidence of cancer in them and their families, as compared to the general population. And nh-lymphoma was lower too. And they were not only spraying RU, but all kinds of other chemicals too. It's really hard to get past those two. And nh-lymphoma occurs in about 70K people a year in the USA, only a small subset are using RU. But it will make for a rich gold mine for the lawyers. My one concern with RU would be that it's now extended to use to spray crops just before harvest, to accelerate the drying out process. That doesn't seem like such a great idea to me. But overall it's been a great chemical and you have to look at the whole picture, the benefits. |
FOX NEWS: Farmers going bankrupt because of Trade War
On 09/15/2019 06:46 AM, Shadow wrote:
You mean firms like Monsanto? It would never happen in Amerika. If that nasty transgenic Monsanto pollen ever contaminated a farmer's corn, he would sue for rape. And make the lobbies pay for it. Justice would only side with the government (AKA lobbies) in a communist dictatorship. Poor Monsanto... https://modernfarmer.com/2014/03/mon...ad-pr-problem/ Companies like Monsanto, Cargill, ConAgra, and Archer Midland Daniels are the second tier. It's more difficult to find out who owns and plants the acreage. |
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