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sink overflow holes/faucet choice
I am replacing a faucet in my bathroom. I do not remember having any problems
when I did this before, but this time I have had problems with both faucets I tried to put in there. They are both name brands--the only problem that I can see with both faucets is that, if I follow the directions, the rectangular holes the should take water from my overflow hole does not actually line up with the overflow hole. The first was a Pfister faucet. It was one of those push plugs and it said to line it up so that you could read the word Pfister on the stopper plug (the stopper and base being all one piece for that type). If I do that, the holes are like 90 degrees off from where they should be. It leaked and I thought it was because that type of faucet does not take plumber putty. I assumed it was a design flaw. Then I bought a Moan and I had a similar problem. This one was the pop up type where the stopper is connected to a lever that lets you open and close the stopper by a pull behind the faucet. If you orient the pipe so that the lever is in the right place, the overflow holes do not line up. I also get leaking. It looks like water starts to saturate the base of the sink through those holes when I let water through. Is that possible? Also, is there some standard that I'm missing--that at some point, they started putting the overflow holes on the side instead of the bottom of the sink so that the new faucets don't work for my sink? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...e-1192825-.htm |
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On 6/3/19 12:14 AM, Rhesa wrote:
I am replacing a faucet in my bathroom.Â* I do not remember having any problems when I did this before, but this time I have had problems with both faucets I tried to put in there.Â* They are both name brands--the only problem that I can see with both faucets is that, if I follow the directions, the rectangular holes the should take water from my overflow hole does not actually line up with the overflow hole.Â* The first was a Pfister faucet.Â* It was one of those push plugs and it said to line it up so that you could read the word Pfister on the stopper plug (the stopper and base being all one piece for that type). If I do that, the holes are like 90 degrees off from where they should be.Â* It leaked and I thought it was because that type of faucet does not take plumber putty.Â* I assumed it was a design flaw.Â* Then I bought a Moan and I had a similar problem.Â* This one was the pop up type where the stopper is connected to a lever that lets you open and close the stopper by a pull behind the faucet.Â* If you orient the pipe so that the lever is in the right place, the overflow holes do not line up. I also get leaking.Â* It looks like water starts to saturate the base of the sink through those holes when I let water through. Is that possible?Â* Also, is there some standard that I'm missing--that at some point, they started putting the overflow holes on the side instead of the bottom of the sink so that the new faucets don't work for my sink? Next time: clarity, brevity, focus, paragraphs ;-) |
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On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 12:14:06 AM UTC-4, Rhesa wrote:
I am replacing a faucet in my bathroom. I do not remember having any problems when I did this before, but this time I have had problems with both faucets I tried to put in there. They are both name brands--the only problem that I can see with both faucets is that, if I follow the directions, the rectangular holes the should take water from my overflow hole does not actually line up with the overflow hole. The first was a Pfister faucet. It was one of those push plugs and it said to line it up so that you could read the word Pfister on the stopper plug (the stopper and base being all one piece for that type). If I do that, the holes are like 90 degrees off from where they should be. It leaked and I thought it was because that type of faucet does not take plumber putty. I assumed it was a design flaw. Then I bought a Moan and I had a similar problem. This one was the pop up type where the stopper is connected to a lever that lets you open and close the stopper by a pull behind the faucet. If you orient the pipe so that the lever is in the right place, the overflow holes do not line up. I also get leaking. It looks like water starts to saturate the base of the sink through those holes when I let water through. Is that possible? Also, is there some standard that I'm missing--that at some point, they started putting the overflow holes on the side instead of the bottom of the sink so that the new faucets don't work for my sink? I've never seen a sink with the overflow holes on the bottom, IDK how that could work? All the sinks I've seen with overflow holes, they are up high on the side, usually the front side, so you can't see them. And I don't recall the lining up of the drain piece being critical with regard to the overflow. Those overflow holes routed water into the hollow part of the basin between the top and bottom and as I recall, it just winds up in the area between the top and bottom by the drain hole. I think it would make it's way into the drain piece regardless of orientation there. The leaking problem, are you sure you followed the directions? Typically they do need plumber's putty on the top to seat properly and then they use a rubber gasket to seal the bottom. How did the old assembly compare to the new? |
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On 6/3/2019 12:14 AM, Rhesa wrote:
I am replacing a faucet in my bathroom.Â* I do not remember having any problems when I did this before, but this time I have had problems with both faucets I tried to put in there.Â* They are both name brands--the only problem that I can see with both faucets is that, if I follow the directions, the rectangular holes the should take water from my overflow hole does not actually line up with the overflow hole.Â* The first was a Pfister faucet.Â* It was one of those push plugs and it said to line it up so that you could read the word Pfister on the stopper plug (the stopper and base being all one piece for that type). If I do that, the holes are like 90 degrees off from where they should be.Â* It leaked and I thought it was because that type of faucet does not take plumber putty.Â* I assumed it was a design flaw.Â* Then I bought a Moan and I had a similar problem.Â* This one was the pop up type where the stopper is connected to a lever that lets you open and close the stopper by a pull behind the faucet.Â* If you orient the pipe so that the lever is in the right place, the overflow holes do not line up. I also get leaking.Â* It looks like water starts to saturate the base of the sink through those holes when I let water through. Is that possible?Â* Also, is there some standard that I'm missing--that at some point, they started putting the overflow holes on the side instead of the bottom of the sink so that the new faucets don't work for my sink? Rotate your sink mebe? |
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 3 Jun 2019 05:14:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 12:14:06 AM UTC-4, Rhesa wrote: I am replacing a faucet in my bathroom. I do not remember having any problems when I did this before, but this time I have had problems with both faucets I tried to put in there. They are both name brands--the only problem that I can see with both faucets is that, if I follow the directions, the rectangular holes the should take water from my overflow hole does not actually line up with the overflow hole. The first was a Pfister faucet. It was one of those push plugs and it said to line it up so that you could read the word Pfister on the stopper plug (the stopper and base being all one piece for that type). If I do that, the holes are like 90 degrees off from where they should be. It leaked and I thought it was because that type of faucet does not take plumber putty. I assumed it was a design flaw. Then I bought a Moan and I had a similar problem. This one was the pop up type where the stopper is connected to a lever that lets you open and close the stopper by a pull behind the faucet. If you orient the pipe so that the lever is in the right place, the overflow holes do not line up. I also get leaking. It looks like water starts to saturate the base of the sink through those holes when I let water through. Is that possible? Also, is there some standard that I'm missing--that at some point, they started putting the overflow holes on the side instead of the bottom of the sink so that the new faucets don't work for my sink? I've never seen a sink with the overflow holes on the bottom, IDK how that Perhaps she mean's the drain hole. The overflow is often built in to the sink and leads to, well I don't know where, maybe Hades, where wicked water receives its punishment for overflowing. could work? All the sinks I've seen with overflow holes, they are up high on the side, usually the front side, so you can't see them. And I don't recall the lining up of the drain piece being critical with regard to the overflow. Those overflow holes routed water into the hollow part of the basin between the top and bottom and as I recall, it just winds up in the area between the top and bottom by the drain hole. I think it would make it's way into the drain piece regardless of orientation there. The leaking problem, are you sure you followed the directions? Typically they do need plumber's putty on the top to seat properly and then they use a rubber gasket to seal the bottom. How did the old assembly compare to the new? |
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On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 05:14:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 12:14:06 AM UTC-4, Rhesa wrote: I am replacing a faucet in my bathroom. I do not remember having any problems when I did this before, but this time I have had problems with both faucets I tried to put in there. They are both name brands--the only problem that I can see with both faucets is that, if I follow the directions, the rectangular holes the should take water from my overflow hole does not actually line up with the overflow hole. The first was a Pfister faucet. It was one of those push plugs and it said to line it up so that you could read the word Pfister on the stopper plug (the stopper and base being all one piece for that type). If I do that, the holes are like 90 degrees off from where they should be. It leaked and I thought it was because that type of faucet does not take plumber putty. I assumed it was a design flaw. Then I bought a Moan and I had a similar problem. This one was the pop up type where the stopper is connected to a lever that lets you open and close the stopper by a pull behind the faucet. If you orient the pipe so that the lever is in the right place, the overflow holes do not line up. I also get leaking. It looks like water starts to saturate the base of the sink through those holes when I let water through. Is that possible? Also, is there some standard that I'm missing--that at some point, they started putting the overflow holes on the side instead of the bottom of the sink so that the new faucets don't work for my sink? I've never seen a sink with the overflow holes on the bottom, IDK how that could work? All the sinks I've seen with overflow holes, they are up high on the side, usually the front side, so you can't see them. And I don't recall the lining up of the drain piece being critical with regard to the overflow. Those overflow holes routed water into the hollow part of the basin between the top and bottom and as I recall, it just winds up in the area between the top and bottom by the drain hole. I think it would make it's way into the drain piece regardless of orientation there. The leaking problem, are you sure you followed the directions? Typically they do need plumber's putty on the top to seat properly and then they use a rubber gasket to seal the bottom. How did the old assembly compare to the new? He is talking about where the overflow on the side near the top exits into the drain. There is enough of a cavity around there so it does not need to line directly up to the drain fitting. My guess is the OP has a gasket in the wrong place. There is usually a thin gasket under the flange in the sink bowl and another thicker one between the nut and the bottom of ther casting, you tighten up at the bottom of the sink with a washer between that gasket and the nut. |
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On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 05:14:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote: On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 12:14:06 AM UTC-4, Rhesa wrote: I am replacing a faucet in my bathroom. I do not remember having any problems when I did this before, but this time I have had problems with both faucets I tried to put in there. They are both name brands--the only problem that I can see with both faucets is that, if I follow the directions, the rectangular holes the should take water from my overflow hole does not actually line up with the overflow hole. The first was a Pfister faucet. It was one of those push plugs and it said to line it up so that you could read the word Pfister on the stopper plug (the stopper and base being all one piece for that type). If I do that, the holes are like 90 degrees off from where they should be. It leaked and I thought it was because that type of faucet does not take plumber putty. I assumed it was a design flaw. Then I bought a Moan and I had a similar problem. This one was the pop up type where the stopper is connected to a lever that lets you open and close the stopper by a pull behind the faucet. If you orient the pipe so that the lever is in the right place, the overflow holes do not line up. I also get leaking. It looks like water starts to saturate the base of the sink through those holes when I let water through. Is that possible? Also, is there some standard that I'm missing--that at some point, they started putting the overflow holes on the side instead of the bottom of the sink so that the new faucets don't work for my sink? I've never seen a sink with the overflow holes on the bottom, IDK how that could work? All the sinks I've seen with overflow holes, they are up high on the side, usually the front side, so you can't see them. And I don't recall the lining up of the drain piece being critical with regard to the overflow. Those overflow holes routed water into the hollow part of the basin between the top and bottom and as I recall, it just winds up in the area between the top and bottom by the drain hole. I think it would make it's way into the drain piece regardless of orientation there. The leaking problem, are you sure you followed the directions? Typically they do need plumber's putty on the top to seat properly and then they use a rubber gasket to seal the bottom. How did the old assembly compare to the new? He is talking about where the overflow on the side near the top exits into the drain. There is enough of a cavity around there so it does not need to line directly up to the drain fitting. That's what I said. I don't think there is even anything to line up, seems to me the overflow just went into the cavity between the top of the sink and the bottom and the drain goes through that at the bottom, might be open all the way around. My guess is the OP has a gasket in the wrong place. There is usually a thin gasket under the flange in the sink bowl and another thicker one between the nut and the bottom of ther casting, you tighten up at the bottom of the sink with a washer between that gasket and the nut. In my experience there is plumber putty at the top. But the directions should clearly show how it goes together. |
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