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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:47:35 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: You still have to admit raising taxes is necessary unless we radically cut spending, including entitlements. The fact remains every nickel of discretionary spending (everything but entitlements and interest on the debt) is borrowed. That is totally unsustainable and we are just burdening our kids with a debt that will crush them. The WW2 debt was higher and didn't crush us. Post your data, you driveling psychopath! When you tack that on to their personal debts like 5 figure student loans we may reach a point where they just revolt. The last time they tried that in the 60s it didn't work for them. Post your data, you driveling psychopath! -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:40:53 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: Yes, there are a few glass ones although most LED bulbs I see are plastic. Do you know of any reason to prefer glass? Not obvious why Philips do it that way. Less likely to crack with age but wont survive a drop onto a hard surface as well. IOW, you don't know, but you will keep smartassing anyway! BG -- pamela about Rot Speed: "His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..." MID: |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:51:16 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: But now I don¢t like the dirty yellow there and prefer a cool white. Dunno why I changed. How's that? You usually know EVERYTHING, you psychopathic know-it-all! BG -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:38:39 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: I used to have one there for that reason but now FLUSH yet more senile troll**** -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 14:46:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:47:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 08:02:25 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:47:58 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:42:05 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. Yes, and now the budget deficit, which was down to just $580 bil when Trump took office, is on track to be ~$1 tril this year, with total debt exceeding $22 tril. Trillion dollar deficits in a decent, expanding economy. Nice work by Trump and I hope you enjoy your tax cut that someone will have to pay for before too much longer. I'm sure Trump is enjoying his tax cut and doesn't give a damn. Cohen related how in 2008 as Trump was cutting staff salaries by half, he was enjoying his $10 mil tax refund and commenting on how stupid the govt was to give it to him. So much for today's "conservatives" too. Obviously deficits only matter when Democrats run them. You never heard me say the tax cut was a good idea, I am just pointing out it actually was a cut for a lot of working class people. Too bad if you live in one of those high SALT states that didn't vote for Trump. Personally I would go for an across the board 2% surtax on EVERYONE's taxes (based on your gross), Basing on the gross has real downsides particularly with small business that isnt operating as a corporate. They end up paying a lot more than the average wage slave and many of them don't necessarily have a higher living standard than the average employee. That's pure BS. A small business today that isn't a corporation isn't taxed on it's gross. It's taxed on it's net INCOME, which is passed through to the owner. Business grosses $300K, has expenses of $200K, owner has unadjusted taxable income of $100K. Then it's adjusted for exemptions, deductions, etc. Final adjusted taxable income is $75K. A new additional 2% income tax like Fretwell is proposing would hit them with a new tax of $1500, just like it would someone who earns $75K from a job. meaning a lot of people who don't pay any at all would have to chip in. But its far from clear if it makes any sense to be making those whose entire income is benefits or the aged pension to be handing back 2% of what the govt has just given them. I would only stipulate that every dime go to paying down the debt. That doesn't necessarily make sense either in times of severe recession when the govt has to pay out a lot more to those who are temporarily between jobs etc. It doesn't make any sense right now. The current deficit is ~$1 tril. To pay down the debt, this new small tax increase would have to generate over $1 tril in new revenue, which it can't. All it would do is slightly lower the horrific deficits, the national debt would keep increasing. Again, just the simplest of facts. You still have to admit raising taxes is necessary unless we radically cut spending, including entitlements. The fact remains every nickel of discretionary spending (everything but entitlements and interest on the debt) is borrowed. That is totally unsustainable and we are just burdening our kids with a debt that will crush them. The WW2 debt was higher and didn't crush us. After WWII we had the only functioning industry outside of the Soviet Union and the whole world needed rebuilding. There was plenty of money coming in and most importantly for us NO entitlement burden. There was no Medicare/Medicaid, very little welfare and SS was operating at a huge surplus. Now the entitlements and interest on the debt eats almost every penny of revenue and we haven't even started to fund everything else the government does.,That money is all borrowed. When you tack that on to their personal debts like 5 figure student loans we may reach a point where they just revolt. The last time they tried that in the 60s it didn't work for them. Different thing altogether but they did stop the war and end the draft. This time it would be more direct in trying to stop the flow of money from the young to the old. They really just need to vote. |
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On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 17:42:30 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:42:11 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 13:59:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 21:02:52 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 03/02/2019 01:32 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: That's the sad part - the"asshole in charge" doesn't realise he is to govern for the good of ALL the people, not just his small crime family inner circle, or his "chearleaders" (ever notice inhigh school the "chear leaders" were generally not "the sharpest knives in the block" but more likely the good-looking airheads????) Do you think the pant-suited bitch who referred to half the electorate as deplorables would govern for ALL the people? Do you think Romney would make it past 47% of the people? No sense lying. It's on the net. "You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trumps supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?' Clinton said. "The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic - you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up." She was far too kind. 100% of Trump voters are deplorable. The US government. from its inception, has not governed for the benefit of ALL the people. Certainly never truer than with Trump, who lost by 2.8 million votes. But it is what it is. Too bad most of Hillary's votes were concentrated in a few states huh? The founding fathers did not want a few big cities on the coast dominating the whole country. Had nothing to do with that. It was designed to prevent a demagogue from becoming POTUS. It didn't work. They were thinking the demagog would come from New York ... oh wait, he did. He just got elected in an electoral college landslide because the democrats can't count. They thought if the won the North East, Chicago and the Pac Coast states they were a shoo in. There are 50 states and they only won 19.5 |
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On 03/03/2019 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 08:05:24 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 7:16:05 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote: On 3/2/2019 10:53 PM, rbowman wrote: On 03/02/2019 11:41 AM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. I'm planning on doing my taxes and I anticipate BOHICA particularly for the state. Many states don't tax SS but this one does. I'm getting about a federal $700 surplus back. Last year I paid them. State does not tax SS or first $15,000 of pension or 401k. We are getting inundated by retirees from NJ moving here. Another trumpet voter that doesn't understand the difference between a refund and actually paying less in taxes. But overall, this year the average refund is down anyway by about $800. That is more about your withholding choices than the tax, as you said. I didn't change my withholding at all and I am getting over $4k back. What I haven't seen reported is what was the average tax rate compared to last year. That must be the 4K I just sent to the Feds and the state... I knew it was going to be bad this year, just not how bad. Then I got to the part of the 1040 instructions about paying. Yes, you can pay by check, if you write your life's history on the check and submit yet another form. I caved and did the direct payment they're pushing with both feet. |
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On 03/03/2019 12:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. Sometimes when i walk through a residential neighborhood at night I wonder if they're trying to mimic kerosene lanterns. |
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On 03/03/2019 03:29 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 14:46:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get Yup. I don't need any more yellow in the spectrum. |
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On 3/3/2019 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 08:05:24 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 7:16:05 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote: On 3/2/2019 10:53 PM, rbowman wrote: On 03/02/2019 11:41 AM, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Â* Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. I'm planning on doing my taxes and I anticipate BOHICA particularly for the state. Many states don't tax SS but this one does. I'm getting about a federal $700 surplus back. Last year I paid them. State does not tax SS or first $15,000 of pension or 401k. We are getting inundated by retirees from NJ moving here. Another trumpet voter that doesn't understand the difference between a refund and actually paying less in taxes. But overall, this year the average refund is down anyway by about $800. That is more about your withholding choices than the tax, as you said. I didn't change my withholding at all and I am getting over $4k back. What I haven't seen reported is what was the average tax rate compared to last year. Same here. Our traitor does not understand this. |
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On 03/03/2019 11:37 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 3/2/19 3:11 PM, Bod F wrote: [snip] The only thing the democrats do is promise more welfare for their constituents...but common sense dictates that welfare is not sustainable. At some point you run out of other peoples money. I remember something about a plan to require welfare recipients to work for their money if they were able to. For some reason that was declared unconstitutional. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-s...fare-benefits/ I don't think the 9th Circuit has found the time in their busy schedule to screw with that one yet. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:42:11 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 13:59:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 21:02:52 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 03/02/2019 01:32 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: That's the sad part - the"asshole in charge" doesn't realise he is to govern for the good of ALL the people, not just his small crime family inner circle, or his "chearleaders" (ever notice inhigh school the "chear leaders" were generally not "the sharpest knives in the block" but more likely the good-looking airheads????) Do you think the pant-suited bitch who referred to half the electorate as deplorables would govern for ALL the people? Do you think Romney would make it past 47% of the people? No sense lying. It's on the net. "You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trumps supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?' Clinton said. "The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic - you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up." She was far too kind. 100% of Trump voters are deplorable. The US government. from its inception, has not governed for the benefit of ALL the people. Certainly never truer than with Trump, who lost by 2.8 million votes. But it is what it is. Too bad most of Hillary's votes were concentrated in a few states huh? The founding fathers did not want a few big cities on the coast dominating the whole country. Had nothing to do with that. It was designed to prevent a demagogue from becoming POTUS. It didn't work. Corse it did, you have never had one and Trump isnt one either. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:47:35 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 08:02:25 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:47:58 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:42:05 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. Yes, and now the budget deficit, which was down to just $580 bil when Trump took office, is on track to be ~$1 tril this year, with total debt exceeding $22 tril. Trillion dollar deficits in a decent, expanding economy. Nice work by Trump and I hope you enjoy your tax cut that someone will have to pay for before too much longer. I'm sure Trump is enjoying his tax cut and doesn't give a damn. Cohen related how in 2008 as Trump was cutting staff salaries by half, he was enjoying his $10 mil tax refund and commenting on how stupid the govt was to give it to him. So much for today's "conservatives" too. Obviously deficits only matter when Democrats run them. You never heard me say the tax cut was a good idea, I am just pointing out it actually was a cut for a lot of working class people. Too bad if you live in one of those high SALT states that didn't vote for Trump. Personally I would go for an across the board 2% surtax on EVERYONE's taxes (based on your gross), Basing on the gross has real downsides particularly with small business that isnt operating as a corporate. They end up paying a lot more than the average wage slave and many of them don't necessarily have a higher living standard than the average employee. That's pure BS. A small business today that isn't a corporation isn't taxed on it's gross. It's taxed on it's net INCOME, which is passed through to the owner. Business grosses $300K, has expenses of $200K, owner has unadjusted taxable income of $100K. Then it's adjusted for exemptions, deductions, etc. Final adjusted taxable income is $75K. A new additional 2% income tax like Fretwell is proposing would hit them with a new tax of $1500, just like it would someone who earns $75K from a job. meaning a lot of people who don't pay any at all would have to chip in. But its far from clear if it makes any sense to be making those whose entire income is benefits or the aged pension to be handing back 2% of what the govt has just given them. I would only stipulate that every dime go to paying down the debt. That doesn't necessarily make sense either in times of severe recession when the govt has to pay out a lot more to those who are temporarily between jobs etc. It doesn't make any sense right now. The current deficit is ~$1 tril. To pay down the debt, this new small tax increase would have to generate over $1 tril in new revenue, which it can't. All it would do is slightly lower the horrific deficits, the national debt would keep increasing. Again, just the simplest of facts. You still have to admit raising taxes is necessary unless we radically cut spending, including entitlements. The fact remains every nickel of discretionary spending (everything but entitlements and interest on the debt) is borrowed. That is totally unsustainable and we are just burdening our kids with a debt that will crush them. The WW2 debt was higher and didn't crush us. After WWII we had the only functioning industry outside of the Soviet Union Oh bull****. It was functioning fine in Germany, Britain, Canada, Australia, India, Japan, etc etc etc. It was in fact doing so well in Japan that the US had enough sense to buy quite a bit of the simpler military hardware used in the Korean War from Japan and that helped the Jap economy very effectively indeed. and the whole world needed rebuilding. That's bull**** too. Yes, quite a bit of europe did and japan and russia, but that wasn't done by the US. There was plenty of money coming in Not from rebuilding the world it didn't. and most importantly for us NO entitlement burden. That's bull**** too with the casualtys of WW2 and the massive free education of vets. There was no Medicare/Medicaid, But the vet system wasn't cheap at that time. very little welfare and SS was operating at a huge surplus. Because it hadn't been going long and most didn't qualify for payouts yet. The real reason the immense govt debt that WW2 incurred was paid down so quickly is because income tax rates were MUCH higher and the economy really boomed after WW2 had ended with lots of building of new houses and buying of cars that wasn't possible during the war. Now the entitlements and interest on the debt eats almost every penny of revenue That's wrong with the military budget alone and the non military discretionary is about the same amount. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...aphic_2017.png and we haven't even started to fund everything else the government does.,That money is all borrowed. Nope. When you tack that on to their personal debts like 5 figure student loans we may reach a point where they just revolt. The last time they tried that in the 60s it didn't work for them. Different thing altogether but they did stop the war Nope, it would have ended then anyway. It was never going to work while ever the Vietnamese were fighting for their country and most of you yanks couldn't see any reason for the US to be involved there getting your kids killed there. and end the draft. That ended because the US no longer needed lots of kids in boots running around with guns in their hands. War changed. Almost everyone else ended the draft then too, for that reason. This time it would be more direct in trying to stop the flow of money from the young to the old. That isnt what is happening now with HALF not paying any net income tax. That is completely and utterly barking mad. No other modern first world country is actually THAT stupid. They really just need to vote. Wont work when the only two partys with any chance of being the govt only differ in the detail about the tax rates. |
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wrote in message ... On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 17:42:30 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:42:11 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 03 Mar 2019 13:59:29 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 21:02:52 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 03/02/2019 01:32 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: That's the sad part - the"asshole in charge" doesn't realise he is to govern for the good of ALL the people, not just his small crime family inner circle, or his "chearleaders" (ever notice inhigh school the "chear leaders" were generally not "the sharpest knives in the block" but more likely the good-looking airheads????) Do you think the pant-suited bitch who referred to half the electorate as deplorables would govern for ALL the people? Do you think Romney would make it past 47% of the people? No sense lying. It's on the net. "You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trumps supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?' Clinton said. "The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic - you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up." She was far too kind. 100% of Trump voters are deplorable. The US government. from its inception, has not governed for the benefit of ALL the people. Certainly never truer than with Trump, who lost by 2.8 million votes. But it is what it is. Too bad most of Hillary's votes were concentrated in a few states huh? The founding fathers did not want a few big cities on the coast dominating the whole country. Had nothing to do with that. It was designed to prevent a demagogue from becoming POTUS. It didn't work. They were thinking the demagog would come from New York ... oh wait, he did. Nope, Trump is no demagogue and your system ensures that even if one does get to be the prez, he doesnt get to actually be a demagogue. He just got elected in an electoral college landslide because the democrats can't count. He got that result because enough were ****ed off enough about that fool Hitlary and the beltway to give Trump a chance and they realised that the US economy would do fine whatever Trump did. They were right about all that. They thought if the won the North East, Chicago and the Pac Coast states they were a shoo in. There are 50 states and they only won 19.5 Doesnt matter what they thought, there was nothing they could have done to change that. They were stuck with that fool Hitlary by then. |
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On 03/03/2019 22:29, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 14:46:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get Are you getting them sorted in the near future or have you got to wait until they get a lot worse? -- Bod --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 04/03/2019 00:42, rbowman wrote:
On 03/03/2019 12:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] Â* I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here.Â* No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. Sometimes when i walk through a residential neighborhood at night I wonder if they're trying to mimic kerosene lanterns. Lol. -- Bod --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 03:59:46 +0000, Bod wrote:
On 03/03/2019 22:29, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 14:46:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get Are you getting them sorted in the near future or have you got to wait until they get a lot worse? The right eye is virtually blind without glasses and useless with. Have first appointment with the surgeon 3 weeks from Wednesday,a 4 month wait since my optometrist requested it. I'm told to expect it could be another 4 months or so before surgery, but hopefully he will get me in earlier. |
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On 04/03/2019 06:47, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 03:59:46 +0000, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 22:29, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 14:46:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get Are you getting them sorted in the near future or have you got to wait until they get a lot worse? The right eye is virtually blind without glasses and useless with. Have first appointment with the surgeon 3 weeks from Wednesday,a 4 month wait since my optometrist requested it. I'm told to expect it could be another 4 months or so before surgery, but hopefully he will get me in earlier. Ah, so hope on the horizon then, good. -- Bod --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 12:50:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: FLUSH another load of the psychopath's inevitable pathological auto-contradicting Hey, psychopath, how OFTEN have you been institutionalized already? G -- Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot: "Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?" MID: |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 12:57:58 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: Nope, Trump is no demagogue and your system ensures that even if one does get to be the prez, he doesn¢t get to actually be a demagogue. Senile Ozzietard OBVIOUSLY doesn't know what "demagogue" means! No suprise! FLUSH the rest of the usual troll**** -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 12:02:06 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: Had nothing to do with that. It was designed to prevent a demagogue from becoming POTUS. It didn't work. Corse it did, you have never had one and Trump isnt one either. Look up "demagogue", senile Ozzietard! -- pamela about Rot Speed: "His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..." MID: |
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On 03/03/2019 11:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
The right eye is virtually blind without glasses and useless with. Have first appointment with the surgeon 3 weeks from Wednesday,a 4 month wait since my optometrist requested it. I'm told to expect it could be another 4 months or so before surgery, but hopefully he will get me in earlier. Is that your famous Canadian medical system? A couple of years ago the optometrist saw something he couldn't quite figure out and bounced me to the eye doctors. It was a macular hole. The repair was done within 3 weeks and that was partly because I scheduled it for the downtime around Christmas week. One of the side effects of the gas they use to temporarily replace the vitreous fluid is accelerating cataract formation. He told me to come back when it got annoying. Earlier I had a small retinal tear. The emergency room sent me to the same place and I was seen immediately for a little laser spot welding. Both incidents were covered by Medicare. I think I was out of pocket for about $100 combined. |
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Actually mixing them is a way to get around those devices that do not like CFLs and LEDs. As long as you still have at least one incandescent in that down stream circuit the dimmer, occupancy/motion sensor or smart switch will usually still work fine. +1 |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:43:38 -0700, rbowman wrote:
On 03/03/2019 11:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: The right eye is virtually blind without glasses and useless with. Have first appointment with the surgeon 3 weeks from Wednesday,a 4 month wait since my optometrist requested it. I'm told to expect it could be another 4 months or so before surgery, but hopefully he will get me in earlier. Is that your famous Canadian medical system? A couple of years ago the optometrist saw something he couldn't quite figure out and bounced me to the eye doctors. It was a macular hole. The repair was done within 3 weeks and that was partly because I scheduled it for the downtime around Christmas week. One of the side effects of the gas they use to temporarily replace the vitreous fluid is accelerating cataract formation. He told me to come back when it got annoying. Earlier I had a small retinal tear. The emergency room sent me to the same place and I was seen immediately for a little laser spot welding. Both incidents were covered by Medicare. I think I was out of pocket for about $100 combined. "emergency surgery such as a macular tear is usually scheduled and done within 24 hours. "elective" surgery takes a little longer. The specialist has a bank of hours in the OR - generally one day a week, and he schedules cataract surgeries for that day. He may do 20 or so in one go. It's such a common surgery now that there is a pretty good waiting list. We have a shortage of specialists locally. I could likely have it done in 3 weeks if I was 150 miles away - possibly even just 70 in the right direction. Same goes with knees and hips. If I go with the standard lens it won't cost me a penny. I can upgrade at my expense. If I had astigmatism the special lens required would be covered. |
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Clare Snyder posted for all of us...
And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get I thought you worked on Mopar products ;-) -- Tekkie |
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Clare Snyder posted for all of us...
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 03:59:46 +0000, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 22:29, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 14:46:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get Are you getting them sorted in the near future or have you got to wait until they get a lot worse? The right eye is virtually blind without glasses and useless with. Have first appointment with the surgeon 3 weeks from Wednesday,a 4 month wait since my optometrist requested it. I'm told to expect it could be another 4 months or so before surgery, but hopefully he will get me in earlier. Now let us discuss the Canadian health system... -- Tekkie |
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 17:42:45 -0700, rbowman wrote:
On 03/03/2019 12:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. Sometimes when i walk through a residential neighborhood at night I wonder if they're trying to mimic kerosene lanterns. That would be me. I really prefer a bunch of S20 15w 130v bulbs to a couple of 100w or the CFL/LED equivalent. My pool deck is lit with 14 of them. I also have Par38s and 600w of underwater light that will light the place up like the Berlin wall but I seldom turn them on, particularly since the kids are gone. The underwater lights are on dimmers and when they are on it is at a pretty low level.. |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 12:50:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:47:35 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 08:02:25 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:47:58 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:42:05 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. Yes, and now the budget deficit, which was down to just $580 bil when Trump took office, is on track to be ~$1 tril this year, with total debt exceeding $22 tril. Trillion dollar deficits in a decent, expanding economy. Nice work by Trump and I hope you enjoy your tax cut that someone will have to pay for before too much longer. I'm sure Trump is enjoying his tax cut and doesn't give a damn. Cohen related how in 2008 as Trump was cutting staff salaries by half, he was enjoying his $10 mil tax refund and commenting on how stupid the govt was to give it to him. So much for today's "conservatives" too. Obviously deficits only matter when Democrats run them. You never heard me say the tax cut was a good idea, I am just pointing out it actually was a cut for a lot of working class people. Too bad if you live in one of those high SALT states that didn't vote for Trump. Personally I would go for an across the board 2% surtax on EVERYONE's taxes (based on your gross), Basing on the gross has real downsides particularly with small business that isnt operating as a corporate. They end up paying a lot more than the average wage slave and many of them don't necessarily have a higher living standard than the average employee. That's pure BS. A small business today that isn't a corporation isn't taxed on it's gross. It's taxed on it's net INCOME, which is passed through to the owner. Business grosses $300K, has expenses of $200K, owner has unadjusted taxable income of $100K. Then it's adjusted for exemptions, deductions, etc. Final adjusted taxable income is $75K. A new additional 2% income tax like Fretwell is proposing would hit them with a new tax of $1500, just like it would someone who earns $75K from a job. meaning a lot of people who don't pay any at all would have to chip in. But its far from clear if it makes any sense to be making those whose entire income is benefits or the aged pension to be handing back 2% of what the govt has just given them. I would only stipulate that every dime go to paying down the debt. That doesn't necessarily make sense either in times of severe recession when the govt has to pay out a lot more to those who are temporarily between jobs etc. It doesn't make any sense right now. The current deficit is ~$1 tril. To pay down the debt, this new small tax increase would have to generate over $1 tril in new revenue, which it can't. All it would do is slightly lower the horrific deficits, the national debt would keep increasing. Again, just the simplest of facts. You still have to admit raising taxes is necessary unless we radically cut spending, including entitlements. The fact remains every nickel of discretionary spending (everything but entitlements and interest on the debt) is borrowed. That is totally unsustainable and we are just burdening our kids with a debt that will crush them. The WW2 debt was higher and didn't crush us. After WWII we had the only functioning industry outside of the Soviet Union Oh bull****. It was functioning fine in Germany, Britain, Canada, Australia, India, Japan, etc etc etc. It was in fact doing so well in Japan that the US had enough sense to buy quite a bit of the simpler military hardware used in the Korean War from Japan and that helped the Jap economy very effectively indeed. and the whole world needed rebuilding. That's bull**** too. Yes, quite a bit of europe did and japan and russia, but that wasn't done by the US. There was plenty of money coming in Not from rebuilding the world it didn't. Bull****, the reason why the Marshall plan was so good for the US is we were the main source of manufactured goods for a number of years. Between us, the Axis and the Brits, we bombed the rest of the world's factories to dust. That was a good news bad news joke for us. When the world rebuilt, it was the latest technology while the US was still using factories built in the 20s. You only have to look at the crap cars of the 50s and 60s to see that. and most importantly for us NO entitlement burden. That's bull**** too with the casualtys of WW2 and the massive free education of vets. There was no Medicare/Medicaid, But the vet system wasn't cheap at that time. There was still plenty of money and the VA was not nearly as inclusive as it is now. You pretty much had to have a combat connected disability to get much in a VA hospital. Now anyone with a DD214 can go. very little welfare and SS was operating at a huge surplus. Because it hadn't been going long and most didn't qualify for payouts yet. The main reason was people died a lot earlier (Life expectancy was in the low 60s and SS didn't kick in until 65) and we had the baby boomers coming to work. There were 16-18 people paying for every retiree. Now in is more like 2.5. The real reason the immense govt debt that WW2 incurred was paid down so quickly is because income tax rates were MUCH higher and the economy really boomed after WW2 had ended with lots of building of new houses and buying of cars that wasn't possible during the war. True but we also had a huge balance of payments surplus. The tax rates for the rich were not quite what they try to sell us either. There was far more you could deduct if you were rich. They may have paid at a rate of 90+% on taxable income but there was plenty that escaped that tax. That was really true until Reagan who wiped out thousands of tax shelters in 1986. I know it took some of my investments from a tax write off to taxable income and I wasn't even rich.. Now the entitlements and interest on the debt eats almost every penny of revenue That's wrong with the military budget alone and the non military discretionary is about the same amount. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...aphic_2017.png Don't get too confused by that "budget". It is the wish list. We seldom actually make those numbers. and we haven't even started to fund everything else the government does.,That money is all borrowed. Nope. When you tack that on to their personal debts like 5 figure student loans we may reach a point where they just revolt. The last time they tried that in the 60s it didn't work for them. Different thing altogether but they did stop the war Nope, it would have ended then anyway. It was never going to work while ever the Vietnamese were fighting for their country and most of you yanks couldn't see any reason for the US to be involved there getting your kids killed there. The war ended because they lost popular support for it. LBJ said, "When I lost Chronkite, I lost the war". That idiot Nixon still kept it going another 6 years. The result was the same as it would have been if LBJ let them have Saigon in 1968. The only thing it accomplished is we created a market for consumer goods in Vietnam and planted the seeds of capitalism with the black market, mostly of things stolen from the US military. We may not have made the world safe for democracy but Budweiser and Marlboro did real well. and end the draft. That ended because the US no longer needed lots of kids in boots running around with guns in their hands. War changed. Almost everyone else ended the draft then too, for that reason. Again we lost popular support for it. We had the draft in the 50s and early 60s when there were no real wars going on that we were involved in. This time it would be more direct in trying to stop the flow of money from the young to the old. That isnt what is happening now with HALF not paying any net income tax. A lot of those people are seniors. That is completely and utterly barking mad. No other modern first world country is actually THAT stupid. true They really just need to vote. Wont work when the only two partys with any chance of being the govt only differ in the detail about the tax rates. They mostly differ on abortion and guns. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 12:50:55 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:47:35 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message m... On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 08:02:25 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:47:58 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:42:05 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. Yes, and now the budget deficit, which was down to just $580 bil when Trump took office, is on track to be ~$1 tril this year, with total debt exceeding $22 tril. Trillion dollar deficits in a decent, expanding economy. Nice work by Trump and I hope you enjoy your tax cut that someone will have to pay for before too much longer. I'm sure Trump is enjoying his tax cut and doesn't give a damn. Cohen related how in 2008 as Trump was cutting staff salaries by half, he was enjoying his $10 mil tax refund and commenting on how stupid the govt was to give it to him. So much for today's "conservatives" too. Obviously deficits only matter when Democrats run them. You never heard me say the tax cut was a good idea, I am just pointing out it actually was a cut for a lot of working class people. Too bad if you live in one of those high SALT states that didn't vote for Trump. Personally I would go for an across the board 2% surtax on EVERYONE's taxes (based on your gross), Basing on the gross has real downsides particularly with small business that isnt operating as a corporate. They end up paying a lot more than the average wage slave and many of them don't necessarily have a higher living standard than the average employee. That's pure BS. A small business today that isn't a corporation isn't taxed on it's gross. It's taxed on it's net INCOME, which is passed through to the owner. Business grosses $300K, has expenses of $200K, owner has unadjusted taxable income of $100K. Then it's adjusted for exemptions, deductions, etc. Final adjusted taxable income is $75K. A new additional 2% income tax like Fretwell is proposing would hit them with a new tax of $1500, just like it would someone who earns $75K from a job. meaning a lot of people who don't pay any at all would have to chip in. But its far from clear if it makes any sense to be making those whose entire income is benefits or the aged pension to be handing back 2% of what the govt has just given them. I would only stipulate that every dime go to paying down the debt. That doesn't necessarily make sense either in times of severe recession when the govt has to pay out a lot more to those who are temporarily between jobs etc. It doesn't make any sense right now. The current deficit is ~$1 tril. To pay down the debt, this new small tax increase would have to generate over $1 tril in new revenue, which it can't. All it would do is slightly lower the horrific deficits, the national debt would keep increasing. Again, just the simplest of facts. You still have to admit raising taxes is necessary unless we radically cut spending, including entitlements. The fact remains every nickel of discretionary spending (everything but entitlements and interest on the debt) is borrowed. That is totally unsustainable and we are just burdening our kids with a debt that will crush them. The WW2 debt was higher and didn't crush us. After WWII we had the only functioning industry outside of the Soviet Union Oh bull****. It was functioning fine in Germany, Britain, Canada, Australia, India, Japan, etc etc etc. It was in fact doing so well in Japan that the US had enough sense to buy quite a bit of the simpler military hardware used in the Korean War from Japan and that helped the Jap economy very effectively indeed. and the whole world needed rebuilding. That's bull**** too. Yes, quite a bit of europe did and japan and russia, but that wasn't done by the US. There was plenty of money coming in Not from rebuilding the world it didn't. Bull****, the reason why the Marshall plan was so good for the US is we were the main source of manufactured goods for a number of years. The world didn't by US manufactured goods after WW2 had ended. Between us, the Axis and the Brits, we bombed the rest of the world's factories to dust. Another pig ignorant lie with Germany alone. And after the war had ended, even germany didn't import US manufactured goods and cars to replace what the war had destroyed. Neither did Japan. That was a good news bad news joke for us. When the world rebuilt, It was only germany and japan that needed to do that. it was the latest technology while the US was still using factories built in the 20s. You only have to look at the crap cars of the 50s and 60s to see that. Britain was still producing crap cars at that time too. Japanese cars werent any better either. Wasn't so true of germany, but that's because they were stamping out the very decent pre war design, the beetle, that so many kids in the world decided was just what they needed, including me. And went on to produce much better designs like the Golf/Rabbit and the mercs and beemers. and most importantly for us NO entitlement burden. That's bull**** too with the casualtys of WW2 and the massive free education of vets. There was no Medicare/Medicaid, But the vet system wasn't cheap at that time. There was still plenty of money Yes, because of the very high income tax rates at that time. Top rate of 94% in fact. https://bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Fre...Tax-Rates.aspx and the VA was not nearly as inclusive as it is now. Bull**** with those actually involved in WW2. You pretty much had to have a combat connected disability to get much in a VA hospital. Those were the only ones who needed it with those involved in WW2. Now anyone with a DD214 can go. very little welfare and SS was operating at a huge surplus. Because it hadn't been going long and most didn't qualify for payouts yet. The main reason was people died a lot earlier (Life expectancy was in the low 60s and SS didn't kick in until 65) and we had the baby boomers coming to work. There were 16-18 people paying for every retiree. Now in is more like 2.5. The real reason the immense govt debt that WW2 incurred was paid down so quickly is because income tax rates were MUCH higher and the economy really boomed after WW2 had ended with lots of building of new houses and buying of cars that wasn't possible during the war. True but we also had a huge balance of payments surplus. The tax rates for the rich were not quite what they try to sell us either. There was far more you could deduct if you were rich. And yet the immense govt debt was paid off very quickly. Because the average wage slave was paying much more income tax then. There are never enough rich to pay down that immense govt debt that quickly, even in america. They may have paid at a rate of 90+% on taxable income but there was plenty that escaped that tax. Yes, it was the wage slaves that paid off that immense federal debit so quickly. Mostly with income tax. That was really true until Reagan who wiped out thousands of tax shelters in 1986. I know it took some of my investments from a tax write off to taxable income and I wasn't even rich.. Now the entitlements and interest on the debt eats almost every penny of revenue That's wrong with the military budget alone and the non military discretionary is about the same amount. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C...aphic_2017.png Don't get too confused by that "budget". It is the wish list. Nope. We seldom actually make those numbers. Bull****. and we haven't even started to fund everything else the government does.,That money is all borrowed. Nope. When you tack that on to their personal debts like 5 figure student loans we may reach a point where they just revolt. The last time they tried that in the 60s it didn't work for them. Different thing altogether but they did stop the war Nope, it would have ended then anyway. It was never going to work while ever the Vietnamese were fighting for their country and most of you yanks couldn't see any reason for the US to be involved there getting your kids killed there. The war ended because they lost popular support for it. There never was popular support for US kids getting killed there. LBJ said, "When I lost Chronkite, I lost the war". Mindlessly silly. The war was in fact lost when it became clear that nothing the US did there worked, particularly after Tet. That idiot Nixon still kept it going another 6 years. Sure, but that is just a detail of how the war was lost. It was never going to be winnable there. Nothing like Malaya which worked, Vietnam was never going to. The result was the same as it would have been if LBJ let them have Saigon in 1968. The only thing it accomplished is we created a market for consumer goods in Vietnam and planted the seeds of capitalism with the black market, mostly of things stolen from the US military. And that didn't survive the vietnamese winning. We may not have made the world safe for democracy but Budweiser and Marlboro did real well. Not once the US crawled away with its tail between its legs it didn't. and end the draft. That ended because the US no longer needed lots of kids in boots running around with guns in their hands. War changed. Almost everyone else ended the draft then too, for that reason. Again we lost popular support for it. Doesn't explain why the rest of the west binned it at the same time. That happened because there was no point in it anymore. The military world had moved on, as it always does. We had the draft in the 50s and early 60s when there were no real wars going on that we were involved in. That's silly with Korea alone. This time it would be more direct in trying to stop the flow of money from the young to the old. That isnt what is happening now with HALF not paying any net income tax. A lot of those people are seniors. Half isnt the seniors. That is completely and utterly barking mad. No other modern first world country is actually THAT stupid. true They really just need to vote. Wont work when the only two partys with any chance of being the govt only differ in the detail about the tax rates. They mostly differ on abortion and guns. So voting wont do a damned thing about tax rates except in the sense that voting for the dems will see a need for higher taxes and the young voters wont see much in the way of lower taxes even if they do vote for the repugs, which hardly any of them do. |
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On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 12:27:09 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:47:58 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:42:05 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 15:11:06 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 12:27:09 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:47:58 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:42:05 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. Yes, and now the budget deficit, which was down to just $580 bil when Trump took office, is on track to be ~$1 tril this year, with total debt exceeding $22 tril. Trillion dollar deficits in a decent, expanding economy. Nice work by Trump and I hope you enjoy your tax cut that someone will have to pay for before too much longer. I'm sure Trump is enjoying his tax cut and doesn't give a damn. Cohen related how in 2008 as Trump was cutting staff salaries by half, he was enjoying his $10 mil tax refund and commenting on how stupid the govt was to give it to him. So much for today's "conservatives" too. Obviously deficits only matter when Democrats run them. You never heard me say the tax cut was a good idea, I am just pointing out it actually was a cut for a lot of working class people. Too bad if you live in one of those high SALT states that didn't vote for Trump. Personally I would go for an across the board 2% surtax on EVERYONE's taxes (based on your gross), Basing on the gross has real downsides particularly with small business that isnt operating as a corporate. They end up paying a lot more than the average wage slave and many of them don't necessarily have a higher living standard than the average employee. That's pure BS. We'll see... A small business today that isn't a corporation isn't taxed on it's gross. Thats what he was proposing the 2% surtax on, stupid. No, you're the one who's stupid and I hope Fretwell will chime in too. He proposed a 2% new tax on people's INCOMES, not on business revenue. A small business that isn't taxed as a corporation passes it's INCOME onto the owner;s personal tax return, where that income is treated like income from a job would be. A business owner would see the same effect of the 2% new tax as someone making the same amount of money. Business has revenue of $300K, expenses of $250K, $50 shows up on personal return as unadjusted gross income. Another guy has a job, earns $50, he also has $50K of unadjusted gross income. Then you have exemptions,' deductions, and wind up with say, $35K taxable income. Got it now? Of course not, you're a moron troll. Fretwell can weigh in if he intended his new 2% tax to apply to the $50K unadjusted or the $35 adjusted income. But either way, it affects the small business just like the guy with the job, both would pay the same increase. It's taxed on it's net INCOME, which is passed through to the owner. Business grosses $300K, has expenses of $200K, owner has unadjusted taxable income of $100K. Then it's adjusted for exemptions, deductions, etc. Final adjusted taxable income is $75K. Thats not his GROSS, stupid. It is the owner;s unadjusted gross income on his personal tax return, moron. It flows in from Schedule C, been there, done that. A new additional 2% income tax like Fretwell is proposing would hit them with a new tax of $1500, Nope, $60K, thats 2% of his GROSS, stupid. Amazing the balls of the moron troll from Australia, claiming to know how small business profits are taxed, when I'm the one who has filled out the forms and paid them. Fretwell proposed a new 2% tax on personal INCOME, not on business REVENUE. Hope he chimes in, I'm sure he understands the difference. You really should just stop, instead of digging an ever deeper hole, like that Mr. T guy. I had no intent of delving into the details of an idea that will never happen I was just advancing the idea that we don't pay enough taxes and everyone should be paying something. The problem is we make it far too easy to kick the debt problem down the road and eventually it is going to do serious damage to the dollar. That is a tax everyone will pay. |
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"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 12:27:09 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 4:47:58 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:42:05 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 11:33:35 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/1/19 7:48 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: [snip] Whatever happened to "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" - I might have gotten the order wrong but - - - - There is NO "the people". Some will always be left out, like all those who did NOT vote for Trump. I didn't vote for Trump (Gary) but I wasn't left out of the tax cut. It saved me about $600 compared to running the same return on the 2017 tax code. Yes, and now the budget deficit, which was down to just $580 bil when Trump took office, is on track to be ~$1 tril this year, with total debt exceeding $22 tril. Trillion dollar deficits in a decent, expanding economy. Nice work by Trump and I hope you enjoy your tax cut that someone will have to pay for before too much longer. I'm sure Trump is enjoying his tax cut and doesn't give a damn. Cohen related how in 2008 as Trump was cutting staff salaries by half, he was enjoying his $10 mil tax refund and commenting on how stupid the govt was to give it to him. So much for today's "conservatives" too. Obviously deficits only matter when Democrats run them. You never heard me say the tax cut was a good idea, I am just pointing out it actually was a cut for a lot of working class people. Too bad if you live in one of those high SALT states that didn't vote for Trump. Personally I would go for an across the board 2% surtax on EVERYONE's taxes (based on your gross), Basing on the gross has real downsides particularly with small business that isnt operating as a corporate. They end up paying a lot more than the average wage slave and many of them don't necessarily have a higher living standard than the average employee. That's pure BS. We'll see... A small business today that isn't a corporation isn't taxed on it's gross. Thats what he was proposing the 2% surtax on, stupid. No, you're the one who's stupid and I hope Fretwell will chime in too. He proposed a 2% new tax on people's INCOMES, not on business revenue. And with a sole trader self employed, THEIR TOTAL TURNOVER IS THEIR GROSS INCOME, ****wit. none of the rest of your even sillier **** worth bothering with, all flushed where it belongs |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 14:36:58 -0500, Tekkie® wrote:
Clare Snyder posted for all of us... And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get I thought you worked on Mopar products ;-) like the handiman who was hired to repaint the porch out back, and came in after finishing the job and said it easn;t a porch, it was an Audi |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 14:38:39 -0500, Tekkie® wrote:
Clare Snyder posted for all of us... On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 03:59:46 +0000, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 22:29, Clare Snyder wrote: On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 14:46:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 3/3/2019 1:53 PM, Bod wrote: On 03/03/2019 18:32, Mark Lloyd wrote: On 3/2/19 2:02 PM, Rod Speed wrote: [snip] But I now find that I don't even notice the dirty yellow in the bedroom anymore. Not sure I'd like it for the main room and kitchen tho. You do get used to them. I had no problem with the light color until recently when some people started using real white light. [snip] I've changed all of our lights to the daylight spectrum type. It actually feels pleasanter in the long dark evenings. Same here. No reason to have dingy orange when you can have a truer color. And with these darn cataracts I need all the help I can get Are you getting them sorted in the near future or have you got to wait until they get a lot worse? The right eye is virtually blind without glasses and useless with. Have first appointment with the surgeon 3 weeks from Wednesday,a 4 month wait since my optometrist requested it. I'm told to expect it could be another 4 months or so before surgery, but hopefully he will get me in earlier. Now let us discuss the Canadian health system... Lets not |
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