'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
 

On 1/2/2019 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:


Do you really think he's the one being stubborn? He campaigned and won
the election on building the wall. After two years, he's gotten NOTHING
towards it. His mistake was letting it go on this long. He's now asking
for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget! I don't see that as being
stubborn. The Democrats claim they are for border security. OK, let's
say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it. It certainly will
increase border security, not hurt it. So, what's the problem? Two
problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to
stick it to Trump.

Smart compromise is to give him a little something, build a section of
wall, prove it does not work. Then carry on like mature people, not
kids throwing a hissy fit.

At thi point, even if they give him chump change it will make him a
winner and they caved. Not a good solution.

'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved US national parks
 

Border partrol/DHS say everywhere they have a wall it works.



"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
: Smart compromise is to give him a little something, build a section of
: wall, prove it does not work. Then carry on like mature people, not
: kids throwing a hissy fit.
:
:

'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
 

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:02:53 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/2/2019 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:


Do you really think he's the one being stubborn? He campaigned and won
the election on building the wall. After two years, he's gotten NOTHING
towards it. His mistake was letting it go on this long. He's now asking
for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget! I don't see that as being
stubborn. The Democrats claim they are for border security. OK, let's
say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it. It certainly will
increase border security, not hurt it. So, what's the problem? Two
problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to
stick it to Trump.

Smart compromise is to give him a little something, build a section of
wall, prove it does not work. Then carry on like mature people, not
kids throwing a hissy fit.

At thi point, even if they give him chump change it will make him a
winner and they caved. Not a good solution.

I agree. But building a small part of the wall won't prove whether it
works or not. It will undoubtedly just about eliminate infiltration
where it's built. They will simply move to other areas without the wall.
It will though show how much wall can be built for X billions. If Trump
was demanding $25 bil, I'd say he's wrong. But after two years and being
reduced to less than $5 bil, clearly the shutdown is on the Democrats.

'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
 

On 1/2/19 7:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/2/2019 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:


Do you really think he's the one being stubborn?Â* He campaigned and won
the election on building the wall.Â* After two years, he's gotten NOTHING
towards it.Â* His mistake was letting it go on this long.Â* He's now asking
for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget!Â*Â* I don't see that as being
stubborn.Â* The Democrats claim they are for border security.Â* OK, let's
say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it.Â* It certainly will
increase border security, not hurt it.Â* So, what's the problem?Â* Two
problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to
stick it to Trump.

Smart compromise is to give him a little something, build a section of
wall, prove it does not work.Â* Then carry on like mature people, not
kids throwing a hissy fit.

right, and then it will be "we need more money to finish the wall"



At thi point, even if they give him chump change it will make him a
winner and they caved.Â* Not a good solution.

'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
 

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-5, ZZyXX wrote:
On 1/2/19 7:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/2/2019 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:


Do you really think he's the one being stubborn?Â* He campaigned and won
the election on building the wall.Â* After two years, he's gotten NOTHING
towards it.Â* His mistake was letting it go on this long.Â* He's now asking
for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget!Â*Â* I don't see that as being
stubborn.Â* The Democrats claim they are for border security.Â* OK, let's
say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it.Â* It certainly will
increase border security, not hurt it.Â* So, what's the problem?Â* Two
problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to
stick it to Trump.

Smart compromise is to give him a little something, build a section of
wall, prove it does not work.Â* Then carry on like mature people, not
kids throwing a hissy fit.

right, and then it will be "we need more money to finish the wall"




If it's at a rate of about $3 bil every two years, how much wall would be built while Trump is in office?

'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
 

On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 15:17:23 -0000, ..shadow, me & my wrote:

Border partrol/DHS say everywhere they have a wall it works.



"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
: Smart compromise is to give him a little something, build a section of
: wall, prove it does not work. Then carry on like mature people, not
: kids throwing a hissy fit.
:
:

The reply goes at this end, moron.

'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
 

On 1/2/19 3:25 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-5, ZZyXX wrote:
On 1/2/19 7:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/2/2019 9:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:


Do you really think he's the one being stubborn?Â* He campaigned and won
the election on building the wall.Â* After two years, he's gotten NOTHING
towards it.Â* His mistake was letting it go on this long.Â* He's now asking
for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget!Â*Â* I don't see that as being
stubborn.Â* The Democrats claim they are for border security.Â* OK, let's
say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it.Â* It certainly will
increase border security, not hurt it.Â* So, what's the problem?Â* Two
problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to
stick it to Trump.

Smart compromise is to give him a little something, build a section of
wall, prove it does not work.Â* Then carry on like mature people, not
kids throwing a hissy fit.

right, and then it will be "we need more money to finish the wall"




If it's at a rate of about $3 bil every two years, how much wall would be built while Trump is in office?

none