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I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 9:19:57 AM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. Does it seem like a problem with the lock cylinder, or moving the rest of what it's attached to? For example, if the pins/lock part is having a problem, I'd expect that it won't even start to turn. If it starts to turn a bit, then I'd suspect the problem isn't the cylinder, but maybe what it's attacked to and has to move. I would search on Youtube for videos on removing the door panel, working on the locks, replacing the glass, etc for your model or similar. If you know how they come apart, it's not hard. The hard part is knowing where all the screws are that hold it on. If you take it apart, you can very likely get it to work without the cylinder so you can drive it. Just make sure you can open and reclose the door. You might get luck and it could just need a touch of grease in the right spot. Also, if you're going to take it apart, look at the videos and also pull up a parts diagram for the car, if you can. They typically use a combination of some screws and plastic push pin type fasteners. When you take it off, it's common to break some of the plastic fasteners. Buying 6 of them ahead of time would be a good idea. But even without, there are usually enough that you can put it back together OK without a few. To get to the lock cylinder you'll probably have to remove the airbag, if it has one. It's no big deal, the suggested method is to disconnect the battery cable before doing it for extra safety. |
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On 12/19/18 9:19 AM, KenK wrote:
I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA Try to find a hungrier locksmith? -- Ever notice the shortage of "armed law-abiding citizen victim tragedy stories in the news? |
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On 19 Dec 2018 14:19:53 GMT, KenK wrote:
I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA You seem to have 2 un-related problems : 1. key turning in lock 2. door fails to latch when you close it Premature key failure can be caused by a couple common bad habits .... or by owning an old Saturn. : heavy junk on the key chain dangling & swinging around when the key is in use : forcing the key in the ignition - when you park with pressure on the ignition lock - due to front wheels being turned - the next time you try to start the car - the key is hard to turn until you release the steering wheel pressure. Try your spare key to see if it works better - if so - get a new key cut from the spare. Door failing to latch can be door alignment/sag/loose latch ; if everything is lined-up and solid - sometimes a generous lube spray on the latch will help. too much graphite will cause build-up & make it worse in freezing weather .. John T. |
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On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 1:52:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On 19 Dec 2018 14:19:53 GMT, KenK wrote: I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA You seem to have 2 un-related problems : 1. key turning in lock 2. door fails to latch when you close it IDK where you came up with #2? His comments about driving without the door latched were about driving to the locksmith with the cylinder after he removes it from the door. And as I posted, very likely he can drive it there with the door panel off and the cylinder out, with the door closed and latched normally. Premature key failure can be caused by a couple common bad habits .... or by owning an old Saturn. : heavy junk on the key chain dangling & swinging around when the key is in use : forcing the key in the ignition - when you park with pressure on the ignition lock - due to front wheels being turned - the next time you try to start the car - the key is hard to turn until you release the steering wheel pressure. Try your spare key to see if it works better - if so - get a new key cut from the spare. Door failing to latch can be door alignment/sag/loose latch ; if everything is lined-up and solid - sometimes a generous lube spray on the latch will help. too much graphite will cause build-up & make it worse in freezing weather .. John T. |
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Press the open button on the fob.
Most times i get one door open with the fob. The pass side has no keyhole. Xterra. If it is cold, heat the key with a bic. |
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On 19 Dec 2018 14:19:53 GMT, KenK wrote:
I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA Yes - take off the outside lock and leave the latch - they ARE separate parts. Use the remote to unlock the door or don't lock the car and enter from the passenger side to openthe driver's door untill they fix it - or spend a few hundred on a new lock assy and have the locksmith re-key it to match your key. That's 2 answers for the price of one. |
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KenK wrote in
: I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA Forgot to mention. I have a brand new key also that I have not been using. Just keep it in the glove department for emergencies. It has the same problem. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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On 20 Dec 2018 17:21:07 GMT, KenK wrote:
KenK wrote in : I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA Forgot to mention. I have a brand new key also that I have not been using. Just keep it in the glove department for emergencies. It has the same problem. Good to know. Are we to assume that it does not have power locks ? therefore a Sentra or Versa ? ... and that the key is not chipped for security? What is the locksmith going to do exactly ? .... call Nissan and order a cylinder & keys and bill you for his labour and their parts ? Curious and curiouser .. John T. |
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On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 1:49:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On 20 Dec 2018 17:21:07 GMT, KenK wrote: KenK wrote in : I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA Forgot to mention. I have a brand new key also that I have not been using. Just keep it in the glove department for emergencies. It has the same problem. Good to know. Are we to assume that it does not have power locks ? therefore a Sentra or Versa ? .. and that the key is not chipped for security? What is the locksmith going to do exactly ? ... call Nissan and order a cylinder & keys and bill you for his labour and their parts ? Curious and curiouser .. John T. Presumably, even with a new cylinder for the door, he'd have to have a locksmith or the dealer key it to the existing key. Otherwise he needs to replace at least the ignition lock too. Unless you can somehow order one that's already keyed by having the correct vehicle info? It's probably better idea for him to obtain the cylinder himself, or get a price for one from the locksmith. Might find one at a better price online, including Ebay, but he should make sure he knows what he's getting. But first thing is to find out if it's really the cylinder, though that appears likely. So, he should either look at Youtube videos as I suggested to see how to take the door panel off, maybe there is a video for the cylinder too. Or take it to a pro. |
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In alt.home.repair, on 19 Dec 2018 14:19:53 GMT, KenK
wrote: I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA I would be reluctant to take out the door cylinder or handle under any circumstances, unless I was sure I could reinstall it. Taking it out might be easier than putting it back in. First you have to take off the inner door panel anyhow. Trader's firs tquestion was a good one. Can you turn the key at all, meeaning 1) it's the rest of the mechanism that is stuck. Or 2) you can't turn it even a bit. If the first, when the panel is off, try to find what is binding, though it's complicated, hidden by the metal parts of the inner door, and not easy to tell. If 2) cut a new one from the codes. 3) Do you have a remote. Just use that all the time. My key works fine but I never use it. Press the remote once for drivers door, twice in a row for all doors**. If you do take out the cyclinder or the handle, if that will make the handle not work, keep the window open so you can stand outside and open the door from the inside. **Strangely, the Toyota Solara convertible comes with a trunk t hat can be opened with the fob and a mechanical release in front of the drivers seat. Of course in a convertible, you need to disable the mechanical release so that no one hops over the door or the trunk, opens the trunk and steals everything in it. And it has a way to lock/disable it. Then there is only the fob, no button on the dash. But I put one in. |
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Oren wrote in
: On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:55:52 -0500, wrote: On 19 Dec 2018 14:19:53 GMT, KenK wrote: I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA You seem to have 2 un-related problems : 1. key turning in lock 2. door fails to latch when you close it Premature key failure can be caused by a couple common bad habits .... or by owning an old Saturn. : heavy junk on the key chain dangling & swinging around when the key is in use : forcing the key in the ignition - when you park with pressure on the ignition lock - due to front wheels being turned - the next time you try to start the car - the key is hard to turn until you release the steering wheel pressure. Try your spare key to see if it works better - if so - get a new key cut from the spare. Door failing to latch can be door alignment/sag/loose latch ; if everything is lined-up and solid - sometimes a generous lube spray on the latch will help. too much graphite will cause build-up & make it worse in freezing weather .. John T. All good commentary. The graphite in a desert is not a good idea. That's a new fact to me. Why? Perhaps spray the lock with Teflon spray cleaning the powder and/or dirt out. OP may have a door lock actuator going wonky. Requires the door panel be removed for R&R. As to a new, secondary key, cut them from the code; normally in the owner's booklet. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Terry Coombs wrote in
news On 12/19/2018 1:55 PM, Oren wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:55:52 -0500, wrote: On 19 Dec 2018 14:19:53 GMT, KenK wrote: I'm having occasional problems turning the key in my drivers 2012 Nissan (30K miles) door, the only one with a lock. Took it to locksmith, they either don't work on cars or want me to remove handle and bring it in. How do I drive it there with no latch on driver's door - no second vehicle? Tried graphite. May have helped but planning ahead. Hate to take it to Nissan. $$$ Any suggestions? TIA You seem to have 2 un-related problems : 1. key turning in lock 2. door fails to latch when you close it Premature key failure can be caused by a couple common bad habits .... or by owning an old Saturn. : heavy junk on the key chain dangling & swinging around when the key is in use : forcing the key in the ignition - when you park with pressure on the ignition lock - due to front wheels being turned - the next time you try to start the car - the key is hard to turn until you release the steering wheel pressure. Try your spare key to see if it works better - if so - get a new key cut from the spare. Door failing to latch can be door alignment/sag/loose latch ; if everything is lined-up and solid - sometimes a generous lube spray on the latch will help. too much graphite will cause build-up & make it worse in freezing weather .. John T. All good commentary. The graphite in a desert is not a good idea. Perhaps spray the lock with Teflon spray cleaning the powder and/or dirt out. OP may have a door lock actuator going wonky. Requires the door panel be removed for R&R. As to a new, secondary key, cut them from the code; normally in the owner's booklet. * You both seem to have missed the point that it's the DOOR lock that he's having trouble with . My key to our '99 4Runner won't work the passenger side door lock most of the time , occasionally I need to jiggle it a bit on the drivers door - but our Toy has over 330.000 miles on it , and I got the most worn key because my wife drives it most of the time . KenK , lube might do the trick , or maybe your key is slightly twisted or bent . Same problem with unused spare key. First thing I'd do is get a new key cut as suggested from the code - if you already have 2 keys , most chipped keys can be programmed at home instead of paying someone a big wad of cash to do it . -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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: Press the open button on the fob. That works. But I hate to rely on the fob to get in all the time. No backup anymore, which the fob was. fob battery? Most times i get one door open with the fob. The pass side has no keyhole. Xterra. If it is cold, heat the key with a bic. Doesn't get very cold. Rarely a degree or two below freezing. Problems occuring in 70s. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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snips But I hate to rely on the fob to get in all the time. No backup anymore, which the fob was. fob battery? OK .. let me review - : you have power locks that work fine & dandy : you are worried about having to replace the battery in the fob : so you are contemplating the job of removing door panels and door locks, hiring locksmiths etc ie: going to a great deal of trouble AND wearing-out your expensive ignition key in a sticky manual door lock .. ... when the power locks work fine ... Seriously ? John T. |
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On 21 Dec 2018 16:56:42 GMT, KenK wrote:
The graphite in a desert is not a good idea. That's a new fact to me. Why? "Too much graphite will cause one or more pins to over-lift. It's okay to flush it out..." '... probably packed in the dirt, and with the graphite, made it pack in tight so that it wont budge." Prison locksmiths never use graphite and there are thousand of locks. At least the people I talked with over the years. |
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On Friday, December 21, 2018 at 12:16:28 PM UTC-5, wrote:
snips But I hate to rely on the fob to get in all the time. No backup anymore, which the fob was. fob battery? OK .. let me review - : you have power locks that work fine & dandy : you are worried about having to replace the battery in the fob : so you are contemplating the job of removing door panels and door locks, hiring locksmiths etc ie: going to a great deal of trouble AND wearing-out your expensive ignition key in a sticky manual door lock .. ... when the power locks work fine ... Seriously ? John T. I hear you. I don't understand what the big deal is either. When he said the key doesn't work sometimes, I assumed it didn't have power door locks. In cars with it, I've just about never used the key. I guess part depends on what the real issue is. If when it's acting up it just means more fiddling jiggling, but it can eventually be opened, then I don't see the urgent need. If when it won't work it means that it won't work again until you open and close the door or something, then it's a potential problem. You could have a dead battery and be in trouble. But still, it's questionable if it's worth worrying about, even in that case. |
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In alt.home.repair, on 21 Dec 2018 17:02:52 GMT, KenK
wrote: Thomas wrote in : Press the open button on the fob. That works. But I hate to rely on the fob to get in all the time. No backup anymore, which the fob was. fob battery? Carry a spare battery. They last a couple years, and iirc often give warning that they are gettin weak, but carry one anyhow. Most times i get one door open with the fob. The pass side has no keyhole. Xterra. If it is cold, heat the key with a bic. Doesn't get very cold. Rarely a degree or two below freezing. Problems occuring in 70s. I can barely remember how my car worked then. '67 Pontiac. |
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:54:40 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
wrote: On Fri 21 Dec 2018 04:57:41p, micky told us... In alt.home.repair, on 21 Dec 2018 17:02:52 GMT, KenK wrote: Thomas wrote in : Press the open button on the fob. That works. But I hate to rely on the fob to get in all the time. No backup anymore, which the fob was. fob battery? Carry a spare battery. They last a couple years, and iirc often give warning that they are gettin weak, but carry one anyhow. Most times i get one door open with the fob. The pass side has no keyhole. Xterra. If it is cold, heat the key with a bic. Doesn't get very cold. Rarely a degree or two below freezing. Problems occuring in 70s. I can barely remember how my car worked then. '67 Pontiac. There are no keyholes in any of our doors of our 2017 Honda Accord, including the driver's door. You don't even have to push a button on the fob to unlock the doors as long as it's within 1-1/2 to 2 feet from the car. We each carry a fob, either in pocket or in a handbag. The two fobs are unique, in that they are individually programmed and in addition to unlocking the doors and the trunk, each fob will adjust many features such as positioning the driver's seat. There is also a remote start button on the fob that works within 500 feet from the vehicle. All very handy. The only button on the driver's door handle and the front passenger's door handle is there to lock all the doors. It signals with a beep and flashing light. There is most likely a hidden key lock under a removeable trim piece on one of the door handles See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4K700ibSNk Similar to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id8fS3fVBlw - on a Nissan. |
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On Friday, December 21, 2018 at 8:54:43 PM UTC-5, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
On Fri 21 Dec 2018 04:57:41p, micky told us... In alt.home.repair, on 21 Dec 2018 17:02:52 GMT, KenK wrote: Thomas wrote in : Press the open button on the fob. That works. But I hate to rely on the fob to get in all the time. No backup anymore, which the fob was. fob battery? Carry a spare battery. They last a couple years, and iirc often give warning that they are gettin weak, but carry one anyhow. Most times i get one door open with the fob. The pass side has no keyhole. Xterra. If it is cold, heat the key with a bic. Doesn't get very cold. Rarely a degree or two below freezing. Problems occuring in 70s. I can barely remember how my car worked then. '67 Pontiac. There are no keyholes in any of our doors of our 2017 Honda Accord, including the driver's door. You don't even have to push a button on the fob to unlock the doors as long as it's within 1-1/2 to 2 feet from the car. We each carry a fob, either in pocket or in a handbag. The two fobs are unique, in that they are individually programmed and in addition to unlocking the doors and the trunk, each fob will adjust many features such as positioning the driver's seat. There is also a remote start button on the fob that works within 500 feet from the vehicle. All very handy. The only button on the driver's door handle and the front passenger's door handle is there to lock all the doors. It signals with a beep and flashing light. What do you do if the car battery goes dead? |
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