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Li-Ion batteries
I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well?
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On 02/11/2018 14:27, Steven Watkins wrote:
But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 14:49:11 -0000, alan_m wrote:
On 02/11/2018 14:27, Steven Watkins wrote: But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. I have some GTL batteries (also called GIF) (Chinese ****) that say 2500.. I tested them (bulb, ammeter) and got 500. Official tests I've found on websites agree. Got them free, I moaned at the seller and got all the money back. Decent makes like Efest, Sony, Sanyo are all quoted as 850 and reviews say you really get that. But 850 is pitiful, as NiMH gives 2700. I was trying to get hold of something to power my camera for as long as possible, while carrying as few spares as possible, so I thought I'd get some decent AA Lithiums and use blanks to make the right voltage. Seems I'll just have to stick to Nickel, which for some reason is ****ing expensive! Is the world running out of Nickel or something? I spent £12.50 on 4 AA Panasonic 2700mAH batteries. I remember they used to be about £1 each. |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 14:58:22 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 14:49:11 -0000, alan_m wrote: On 02/11/2018 14:27, Steven Watkins wrote: But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. I have some GTL batteries (also called GIF) (Chinese ****) that say 2500. I tested them (bulb, ammeter) and got 500. Official tests I've found on websites agree. Got them free, I moaned at the seller and got all the money back. Including VAT :-) |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 15:03:28 -0000, Scott wrote:
On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 14:58:22 -0000, "Steven Watkins" wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 14:49:11 -0000, alan_m wrote: On 02/11/2018 14:27, Steven Watkins wrote: But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. I have some GTL batteries (also called GIF) (Chinese ****) that say 2500. I tested them (bulb, ammeter) and got 500. Official tests I've found on websites agree. Got them free, I moaned at the seller and got all the money back. Including VAT :-) No idea about VAT. VAT is not a simple tax as stated by the government when they introduced it on April Fools day. |
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Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert!
On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 15:03:28 +0000, Scott, another braindamaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, driveled: Including VAT :-) ....and troll-feeding senile idiot no.2 appeared on the scene to swallow the abnormal attention whore's latest idiotic bait, hook, line and sinker, again! BG |
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On 02/11/2018 14:58, Steven Watkins wrote:
snipped I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. I have some GTL batteries (also called GIF) (Chinese ****) that say 2500.* I tested them (bulb, ammeter) and got 500.* Official tests I've found on websites agree.* Got them free, I moaned at the seller and got all the money back. Decent makes like Efest, Sony, Sanyo are all quoted as 850 and reviews say you really get that.* But 850 is pitiful, as NiMH gives 2700. About the same energy, given that the lithium cells are about three times the voltage of the NiMH. Cheers -- Clive |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 16:53:15 -0000, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/11/2018 14:58, Steven Watkins wrote: snipped I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. I have some GTL batteries (also called GIF) (Chinese ****) that say 2500. I tested them (bulb, ammeter) and got 500. Official tests I've found on websites agree. Got them free, I moaned at the seller and got all the money back. Decent makes like Efest, Sony, Sanyo are all quoted as 850 and reviews say you really get that. But 850 is pitiful, as NiMH gives 2700. About the same energy, given that the lithium cells are about three times the voltage of the NiMH. But if you consider a Panasonic 18500, at 3Ah and 3.7V, it's twice the energy per volume. They just don't seem to get the higher charge density in the smaller AA size. |
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On 02/11/2018 18:40, Steven Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 16:53:15 -0000, Clive Arthur wrote: On 02/11/2018 14:58, Steven Watkins wrote: snipped I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. I have some GTL batteries (also called GIF) (Chinese ****) that say 2500.* I tested them (bulb, ammeter) and got 500.* Official tests I've found on websites agree.* Got them free, I moaned at the seller and got all the money back. Decent makes like Efest, Sony, Sanyo are all quoted as 850 and reviews say you really get that.* But 850 is pitiful, as NiMH gives 2700. About the same energy, given that the lithium cells are about three times the voltage of the NiMH. But if you consider a Panasonic 18500, at 3Ah and 3.7V, it's twice the energy per volume.* They just don't seem to get the higher charge density in the smaller AA size. ITYM "Thanks, I'd overlooked that, and 'pitiful' was clearly wrong". Cheers -- Clive |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 16:53:15 -0000, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 02/11/2018 14:58, Steven Watkins wrote: snipped I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. I have some GTL batteries (also called GIF) (Chinese ****) that say 2500. I tested them (bulb, ammeter) and got 500. Official tests I've found on websites agree. Got them free, I moaned at the seller and got all the money back. Decent makes like Efest, Sony, Sanyo are all quoted as 850 and reviews say you really get that. But 850 is pitiful, as NiMH gives 2700. About the same energy, given that the lithium cells are about three times the voltage of the NiMH. Which makes the AA LiIons pointless, unless you need the extra voltage for some reason. |
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Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert!
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 16:53:15 +0000, Clive Arthur, yet another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered: About the same energy, given that the lithium cells are about three times the voltage of the NiMH. Cheers He WILL cheer ...for every senile idiot who runs along to suck him off! BG |
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Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert!
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 14:49:11 +0000, anal_m, the absolutely braindead,
notorious, troll-feeding, senile idiot, driveled again: I purchased some torches with 14500s claimed to be 2400mAh which I didn't believe. I doubt that they were even close to 850/900mAh as fully charged they didn't last long in the torch. Replacement 900mAh batteries lasted much longer. ....and braindead troll-feeding senile idiot no.1, anal_m himself, appears to be the first to swallow the abnormal Scottish sow's latest idiotic bait, hook, line and sinker again! BG |
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Steven Watkins wrote:
I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? Shirley a man with a degree in microelectronics would know about these things? Just another troll by phucker. |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:27:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Steven Watkins wrote: I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? Shirley a man with a degree in microelectronics would know about these things? Just another troll by phucker. It's chemistry, not electronics, you ****ing simpleton. |
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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message news I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? Presumably not. If you look up big clives teardowns, they are basically rolled up and stuffed into a round cylinder and that gets harder with the smaller ones. |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 18:26:40 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:
"Steven Watkins" wrote in message news I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? Presumably not. If you look up big clives teardowns, they are basically rolled up and stuffed into a round cylinder and that gets harder with the smaller ones. Panasonic don't even make the AA versions. |
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Lonely Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 05:26:40 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: Presumably not. Right! But it's good stuff to talk about it in your known idiotic manner anyway, isn't it? BG -- Java Jive to senile Rot: You're getting there, it's clear that you've now reached the level of "Nyah nyah nanyah nyah!", but surely you can be even more juvenile than that? MID: |
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I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for
the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Steven Watkins" wrote in message news I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? |
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Why was the AA LiIon size ever invented if it's no good? I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size.
On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian |
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On 02/11/2018 20:39, Steven Watkins wrote:
As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, They are far better at not self discharging NiMh if left a few months flatten and destroy themselves Li-Ion is good for a year or more -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post. |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 20:51:55 -0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/11/2018 20:39, Steven Watkins wrote: As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, They are far better at not self discharging NiMh if left a few months flatten and destroy themselves Li-Ion is good for a year or more That's no longer true, since about 10 years ago when Uniross came out with Hybrio, and other manufacturers with similar products. Basically they're just better made NiMH. They don't significantly self discharge, in fact when you buy them they come already charged. Myself I have AA NiMH which I've left on a shelf for 2 years and they still measure as pretty much full. |
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On 02/11/2018 21:09, Steven Watkins wrote:
On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 20:51:55 -0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 02/11/2018 20:39, Steven Watkins wrote: As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, They are far better at not self discharging NiMh if left a few months flatten and destroy themselves Li-Ion is good for a year or more That's no longer true, since about 10 years ago when Uniross came out with Hybrio, and other manufacturers with similar products.Â* Basically they're just better made NiMH.Â* They don't significantly self discharge, in fact when you buy them they come already charged.Â* Myself I have AA NiMH which I've left on a shelf for 2 years and they still measure as pretty much full. Well thats news to me and welcome news at that. Hated NiMh for that exact reason -- The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property. Karl Marx |
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Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert!
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 20:51:55 +0000, The Natural Idiot blathered again:
They are far better at not self discharging NiMh if left a few months flatten and destroy themselves Li-Ion is good for a year or more The Natural Idiot, again, has no clue into what trap he walked! LOL |
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Steven Watkins wrote
Why was the AA LiIon size ever invented if it's no good? Because its one of the most common battery sizes. I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. All of my torches which take those also have a plastic frame that takes AAs instead. I only use the 18650s. I do have some torches that go on your head that take AA cells and not 18650. I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size. On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian |
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Lonely Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:22:18 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: All of my torches which take those also have a plastic frame that takes AAs instead. I only use the 18650s. I do have some torches that go on your head that take AA cells and not 18650. Nobody gives a **** about your torches, Ozzietard! tsk -- Marland addressing bull****ting senile Rot: "Stay in your wet paper bag you thick twit." MID: |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:22:18 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:
Steven Watkins wrote Why was the AA LiIon size ever invented if it's no good? Because its one of the most common battery sizes. But due to it's differing voltage, it was never intended as a direct replacement, but to power new devices that wanted more voltage, such as LED torches. I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. All of my torches which take those also have a plastic frame that takes AAs instead. I only use the 18650s. I do have some torches that go on your head that take AA cells and not 18650. I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size. On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian |
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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message news On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:22:18 -0000, Rod Speed wrote: Steven Watkins wrote Why was the AA LiIon size ever invented if it's no good? Because its one of the most common battery sizes. But due to it's differing voltage, it was never intended as a direct replacement, but to power new devices that wanted more voltage, such as LED torches. But some arent idea with 18650. There are in fact one hell of a range of LiIon cells of various sizes and if it wasn't for the problem that LiIon doesn't work well in the smaller diameter cells, it does make sense to use an existing very common cell size. I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. All of my torches which take those also have a plastic frame that takes AAs instead. I only use the 18650s. I do have some torches that go on your head that take AA cells and not 18650. I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size. On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:22:18 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:
Steven Watkins wrote I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. All of my torches which take those also have a plastic frame that takes AAs instead. I only use the 18650s. My torches only take 18650. I see no point in a frame to allow you to give it 1/3rd of the voltage. I do have some torches that go on your head that take AA cells and not 18650. My head torch is 18650 (two of them, for some reason in parallel, so I can choose to only use one battery). I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size. On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian |
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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message news On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:22:18 -0000, Rod Speed wrote: Steven Watkins wrote I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. All of my torches which take those also have a plastic frame that takes AAs instead. I only use the 18650s. My torches only take 18650. They do in fact take those carriers with AA batterys in them which end up the same size as a 18650 even if that carrier was not supplied with the torch. I see no point in a frame to allow you to give it 1/3rd of the voltage. It isnt 1/3 of the voltage, the carrier takes 3 AA cells. I do have some torches that go on your head that take AA cells and not 18650. My head torch is 18650 (two of them, for some reason in parallel, so I can choose to only use one battery). Irrelevant to what some head torches do. I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size. On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 20:39:04 -0000, "Steven Watkins"
wrote: Why was the AA LiIon size ever invented if it's no good? I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size. On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian The aa size are not litium ion if they are direct replacements for Nimh because lithium ion are 3.7 volts, not 1.25 or 1.5 |
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 02:50:38 -0000, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 20:39:04 -0000, "Steven Watkins" wrote: Why was the AA LiIon size ever invented if it's no good? I've only ever come across LiIon intended products (like torches) that take the larger 18650 size. I only tried the little ones as NiMH replacements. As far as I know, the only advantage to LiIon over NiMH is the increased capacity, and you don't get that with the smaller size. On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote: I guess not, since they tend not to. I'd imagine it has to do with space for the electrolyte and a thick enough conductor not to get too hot and get damaged. I'm sure somebody will find a way though as its a popular size. Is there any better life span or abuse olerance in one over the other? Brian The aa size are not litium ion if they are direct replacements for Nimh because lithium ion are 3.7 volts, not 1.25 or 1.5 They're not DIRECT replacements, but.... In my camera which takes 4 AA NiMH, I can put in 1 LiIon, 1 NiMH, and 2 blanks. Then when I go on holiday, I take half the number of spare batteries with me. My electric toothbrush takes 2 AA NiMH. I put in 1 LiIon and 1 blank. This runs the motor a bit faster, which was my intention as it cleans my teeth much better. My room stats take 2 AAs. But they fail to work properly with NiMH, and only like Alkaline as they need 3V, not 2.4V. They work fine with 1 LiIon and 1 blank. |
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Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert!
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 19:40:41 -0000, Brainless & Daft, blathered again:
I guess not, since they tend not to. But it won't stop you idiots from blathering inanely about it! BG |
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Steven Watkins wrote:
I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? **** of with your trolling Hucker. |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 21:44:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Steven Watkins wrote: I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? **** of with your trolling Hucker. It was a genuine question. **** you. |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 21:44:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Steven Watkins wrote: I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? **** of with your trolling Hucker. Is your F key not working to god? |
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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message news On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 21:44:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Steven Watkins wrote: I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? **** of with your trolling Hucker. Is your F key not working to god? His god ignores him for some reason. |
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:47:44 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:
"Steven Watkins" wrote in message news On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 21:44:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Steven Watkins wrote: I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? **** of with your trolling Hucker. Is your F key not working to god? His god ignores him for some reason. His god realises he's got dementia. Best to quietly nod your head and leave the room when those sort witter on. |
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"Steven Watkins" wrote in message news On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:47:44 -0000, Rod Speed wrote: "Steven Watkins" wrote in message news On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 21:44:23 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Steven Watkins wrote: I've got some very good 18650 Panasonics - 3Ah, but there seems to be nothing worth getting at the 14500 (AA) size. I thought LiIon was meant to hold more power per volume, which is certainly true of the 18650s, about double an NiMH. But 14500s are all 850mAh (the ones claiming higher are Chinese fakes and aren't higher). So you don't actually get more power out of an AA sized LiIon than NiMH. Can they not make LiIon cells that small very well? **** of with your trolling Hucker. Is your F key not working to god? His god ignores him for some reason. His god realises he's got dementia. More likely his god has noticed that he's in with the devil. Best to quietly nod your head and leave the room when those sort witter on. Doesn't work, they follow you and keep twittering on. Look at that Peeler ****wit sometime, he follows you everywhere even if you ignore him completely. |
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Lonely Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:47:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: Is your F key not working to god? His god ignores him for some reason. EVERYONE in real life ignores YOU for a very obvious reason, you obnoxious senile pest! -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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