This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?

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This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

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%Profound_observation%

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham. wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:23:45 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

FLUSH the abnormal sociopathic attention whore's latest idiotic
attention-baiting bull**** unread again

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"It's like arguing with a demented frog."
MID:

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"the **** poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
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MID:

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"He's a perennial idiot"
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MID:

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month some time. You're like a dog who's just dug up an old bone they
hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it."
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sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not
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""not the sharpest knife in the drawer"'s parents sure made a serious
mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space,
and bandwidth."
MID:

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham., yet another braindead,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:

Basically the later I should think.

Basically you ARE a senile troll-feeding moron!

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham. wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.
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%Profound_observation%

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 18:13:54 +0100, Graham. wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham. wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.

Bloody hell, those look like very well made and very expensive(?) products.

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A friend of his said, "I thought she wanted one of those sporty 4-Wheel drive vehicles."
"She did," he replied. "But where in the hell was I gonna find a fake Jeep?"

On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham. wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

We've had several since, none have lasted so well.



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On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 18:13:54 +0100, Graham., yet another braindead,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered:

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

You've been had by the dumbest troll these groups have ever seen, you brain
dead idiot!

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 19:06:45 +0100, Brian Reay wrote:

On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham. wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

We've had several since, none have lasted so well.

I once had a microwave that decided to run continuously for no reason, I think some water got through into the workings underneath. Maybe it was just the motor, but I couldn't be bothered as it was a cheap oven so I threw it out. I should have had a look inside.

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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news
On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham.
wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional
microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all
like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

I'm still using the Sharp I bought in 73 almost every day.

It does have a proper electronic control and display.

Never had to do a thing to it.

Corse now it will curl up and die and it will be your fault.

We've had several since, none have lasted so well.

On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 02:08:15 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news
On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham.
wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional
microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all
like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

I'm still using the Sharp I bought in 73 almost every day.

It does have a proper electronic control and display.

Never had to do a thing to it.

Corse now it will curl up and die and it will be your fault.

Whatever happened to Sharp, they still seem to be in business, but I haven't seen anything made by them for a decade or two.

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"It will be long, it will be hard, and there'll be no withdrawal"

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 02:08:15 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news
On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham.
wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional
microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under
there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy
rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all
like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

I'm still using the Sharp I bought in 73 almost every day.

It does have a proper electronic control and display.

Never had to do a thing to it.

Corse now it will curl up and die and it will be your fault.

Whatever happened to Sharp,

Nothing special here.

they still seem to be in business,

Yep.

but I haven't seen anything made by them for a decade or two.

They arent as cheap as the worst crap but still buyable here.
https://www.sharp.net.au/

On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 12:01:14 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 02:08:15 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham.
wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional
microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under
there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy
rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna, carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they all
like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

I'm still using the Sharp I bought in 73 almost every day.

It does have a proper electronic control and display.

Never had to do a thing to it.

Corse now it will curl up and die and it will be your fault.

Whatever happened to Sharp,

Nothing special here.

they still seem to be in business,

Yep.

but I haven't seen anything made by them for a decade or two.

They arent as cheap as the worst crap but still buyable here.
https://www.sharp.net.au/

Maybe here too, but I just haven't seen anyone with a Sharp device for 20 years. They used to be everywhere. AFAIK they were always midrange. Not overpriced like Sony, but decent. Something like LG.

Just checked a retailer he https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/househ...-criteria.html
5 Sharp microwaves on offer, but 40 Russell Hobbs, 29 Bosch, 24 Swan, 15 Samsung, 25 Hotpoint. So not the most popular by far.

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On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 21:01:14 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again:

Nothing special here.

NEITHER of you two idiotic trolls is! BG


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"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
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MID:

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 12:01:14 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 02:08:15 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham.
wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional
microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat
under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under
there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy
rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica
on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of
the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A
squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron,
but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna,
carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but
I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they
all
like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

I'm still using the Sharp I bought in 73 almost every day.

It does have a proper electronic control and display.

Never had to do a thing to it.

Corse now it will curl up and die and it will be your fault.

Whatever happened to Sharp,

Nothing special here.

they still seem to be in business,

Yep.

but I haven't seen anything made by them for a decade or two.

They arent as cheap as the worst crap but still buyable here.
https://www.sharp.net.au/

Maybe here too, but I just haven't seen anyone with a Sharp device for 20
years. They used to be everywhere. AFAIK they were always midrange. Not
overpriced like Sony, but decent. Something like LG.

Just checked a retailer he
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/househ...-criteria.html
5 Sharp microwaves on offer, but 40 Russell Hobbs, 29 Bosch, 24 Swan, 15
Samsung, 25 Hotpoint. So not the most popular by far.

There's heaps here
https://www.sharp.net.au/home-products/microwaves

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 09:45:07 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed produced
yet more rot:


There's heaps here
https://www.sharp.net.au/home-products/microwaves

Senile idiot and infantile idiot -after a long period of estrangement and
sulking at each other- found each other again! Bruahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!

"Rod Speed" wrote in
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 12:01:14 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 02:08:15 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham.
wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in
conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...img/index_img_
0
1.gif It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make
them flat under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit
under there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy
rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with
mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side
of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A
squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the
Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna,
carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout
I recall a Phillips one in the 70's which had the controls and
presumably the magnetron above the cavity. I don't think it had a
turntable. One would suit me now as it woual be narrower.

I recall a Phillips one in the 70's which had the controls and
presumably the magnetron above the cavity. I don't think it had a
turntable. One would suit me now as it woual be narrower.

On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 00:45:07 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 12:01:14 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 02:08:15 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Brian Reay" wrote in message
news On 01/06/2018 18:13, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0100, Graham.
wrote:

This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in conventional
microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...dex_img_01.gif
It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make them flat
under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit under
there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy
rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with mica
on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side of
the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A
squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the Magnetron,
but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna,
carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout the
cavity. I imagine modern bottom entry ones do a similar trick, but
I
have yet to work on one.

I didn't realise they were available in 1980. So why aren't they
all
like that? Does it add a lot to the price?

The one we had is in the last illustration on this page

https://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/P...iterature.html

I've still got the 170 page hard-back cookery book.


That looks quite a sophisticated one for the early 80s. We bought one
around 1981 and it had just a simple turn and 'run back' timer. It did
last about 17 years, with only a couple of O rings in the turn table
drive. We only disposed of it as it started to look tatty.

I'm still using the Sharp I bought in 73 almost every day.

It does have a proper electronic control and display.

Never had to do a thing to it.

Corse now it will curl up and die and it will be your fault.

Whatever happened to Sharp,

Nothing special here.

they still seem to be in business,

Yep.

but I haven't seen anything made by them for a decade or two.

They arent as cheap as the worst crap but still buyable here.
https://www.sharp.net.au/

Maybe here too, but I just haven't seen anyone with a Sharp device for 20
years. They used to be everywhere. AFAIK they were always midrange. Not
overpriced like Sony, but decent. Something like LG.

Just checked a retailer he
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/househ...-criteria.html
5 Sharp microwaves on offer, but 40 Russell Hobbs, 29 Bosch, 24 Swan, 15
Samsung, 25 Hotpoint. So not the most popular by far.

There's heaps here
https://www.sharp.net.au/home-products/microwaves

Yes, but how common are they compared to other makes?

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This is what I think of as a magnetron, as used in
conventional microwave ovens with a turntable:
http://www.hokuto.co.jp/eng/products...img/index_img_
0
1.gif It's about the size of a fist. So how do they make
them flat under
the food cavity in flatbed ovens? Does the magnetron sit
under there
and is redesigned to be flat? Or is there some kind of fancy
rotating
waveguide, and the magnetron sits at the side as before?


Basically the later I should think.

The one I had in the 1980s had a large aperture covered with
mica on
the roof of the cooking cavity. The Magnetron was at the side
of the
cavity with a brass wave guide leading up to the top. A
squirrel-cage
fan blows air up the wave guide and not only cools the
Magnetron, but
also rotates a paddle-wheel at the top, a rotating antenna,
carrying
multiple reflectors thar distribute the radiation throughout
I recall a Phillips one in the 70's which had the controls and
presumably the magnetron above the cavity. I don't think it had a
turntable. One would suit me now as it woual be narrower.

I wonder if it rotated? How unevenly cooked would something be without rotation? Would conduction of heat make up for it? I guess somebody could try it by removing the turntable from a conventional microwave.

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