Hankook tires
 

I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

Hankook tires
 

On 1/28/2017 7:19 AM, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They usually
put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time they used
Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if they just
cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.


Well, then shut the **** up.
LOL

Hankook tires
 

On 1/28/2017 10:19 AM, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They usually
put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time they used
Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if they just
cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

They came on one of my Sonatas a few years back. There were just
another set of tires, black, round, held air. Nothing significant about
them good or bad. They lasted about the same as any other tire too.
You should be OK with them.

Best tires I ever had were Nokian WRG3. Put them on my last car. They
will go on my present car probably next winter. True all season with a
snow rating.

Hankook tires
 

philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all
day or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so
I've stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over
the map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

I run Hankook DynaPro ATM's on our Toyota 4Runner 4x4 , they seem to be
pretty good tires . Not a lot cheaper than the Big Name Tires ... I've
gotten acceptable wear , they have good wet and decent slick/snow traction ,
and they don't roar at highway speeds . A good friend ran a set of these on
his Jeep (CJ type) for 40k then put them on his pickup for IDK how many more
miles . I'm not sure how many miles theres have on them , probably 20k or
more and still have a lot of tread .
--
Snag

Hankook tires
 

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 10:19:38 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

You're a very bad American for buying that foreign stuff!

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 09:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/28/2017 10:19 AM, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They usually
put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time they used
Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if they just
cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

They came on one of my Sonatas a few years back. There were just
another set of tires, black, round, held air. Nothing significant about
them good or bad. They lasted about the same as any other tire too. You
should be OK with them.

Best tires I ever had were Nokian WRG3. Put them on my last car. They
will go on my present car probably next winter. True all season with a
snow rating.



Ok thanks.

The tires that were on the car still had tread, but were so old they
looked like they were starting to get dry rot....
so this is probably not too critical.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 09:44 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all
day or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so
I've stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over
the map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

I run Hankook DynaPro ATM's on our Toyota 4Runner 4x4 , they seem to be
pretty good tires . Not a lot cheaper than the Big Name Tires ... I've
gotten acceptable wear , they have good wet and decent slick/snow traction ,
and they don't roar at highway speeds . A good friend ran a set of these on
his Jeep (CJ type) for 40k then put them on his pickup for IDK how many more
miles . I'm not sure how many miles theres have on them , probably 20k or
more and still have a lot of tread .



Thanks

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 09:47 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 10:19:38 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

You're a very bad American for buying that foreign stuff!



I prefer to buy American but considering that most everything is made in
China, it's hard to avoid non-American.

It's all from the same planet at any rate.

Hankook tires
 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 09:19:33 -0600, philo wrote:

I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

Go to TireRack.com and check out what they have to say about them.

Hankook tires
 

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 11:24:53 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
On 01/28/2017 09:47 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 10:19:38 AM UTC-5, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

You're a very bad American for buying that foreign stuff!



I prefer to buy American but considering that most everything is made in
China, it's hard to avoid non-American.

It's all from the same planet at any rate.

Doesn't matter, Trump still says it's bad, bad, bad! I see Trump
just learned that all US pipelines are not built with American steel.
He wants to issue an exec order to fix that. Never mind that it's
a violation of WTO, which we belong to. Any guesses as to how much
foreign steel, foreign products are in Trump's projects? We know
he buys his clothing products from China. But you Philo, those pipeline
builders, you're the problem!

Hankook tires
 

On 1/28/2017 10:19 AM, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.


Were these tires for your '78 Ford Fairmont?

Hankook tires
 

Most Hankooks are fine for summer and fall, but
winters are what separate the wheat from the
chaff. ;)

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 10:52 AM, trader_4 wrote:


snip


I prefer to buy American but considering that most everything is made in
China, it's hard to avoid non-American.

It's all from the same planet at any rate.

Doesn't matter, Trump still says it's bad, bad, bad! I see Trump
just learned that all US pipelines are not built with American steel.
He wants to issue an exec order to fix that. Never mind that it's
a violation of WTO, which we belong to. Any guesses as to how much
foreign steel, foreign products are in Trump's projects? We know
he buys his clothing products from China. But you Philo, those pipeline
builders, you're the problem!




Figured this would not take too long for Trump's name to come up...
and in a way this is not OT because to most here, America is our home
and it needs repair.


I guess I've spent too many years in bars noticing the friendly guy a
few seats down who borrows money from all the drunks on either side of
him to play bar dice. He never pays anyone back...pockets any money he
makes and if he does nothing but lose, no big deal, not his money.

Sure , hey what's not to like when he says we should bring back US
manufacturing and jobs? Sounds good I suppose but he will soon learn
that the president cannot issue decrees like a king. It's all going to
come tumbling down before too long.

When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on the
other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 10:56 AM, Al Dente wrote:
On 1/28/2017 10:19 AM, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all
day or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so
I've stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over
the map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.


Were these tires for your '78 Ford Fairmont?




I have a Pontiac Vibe which is really a Toyota Matrix.

It's about 11 years old and has needed nothing but routine maintenance.

Bought it because it's a hatch back. Though a smaller car, can hold a
hell of a lot. More than some SUV's I've been in.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 11:07 AM, wrote:
Most Hankooks are fine for summer and fall, but
winters are what separate the wheat from the
chaff. ;)



I live in Wisconsin where there is plenty of Winter.

That said, I'm retired and if we have a snow storm often just wait a few
days before I go out on the road. If I run out of anything, there are
plenty of stores within easy walking distance.

Talked to a friend who lives way up in the north woods. she says she has
to fire up her snowmobile just to get to her mailbox!

Hankook tires
 

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-5, philo wrote:
On 01/28/2017 10:52 AM, trader_4 wrote:


snip


I prefer to buy American but considering that most everything is made in
China, it's hard to avoid non-American.

It's all from the same planet at any rate.

Doesn't matter, Trump still says it's bad, bad, bad! I see Trump
just learned that all US pipelines are not built with American steel.
He wants to issue an exec order to fix that. Never mind that it's
a violation of WTO, which we belong to. Any guesses as to how much
foreign steel, foreign products are in Trump's projects? We know
he buys his clothing products from China. But you Philo, those pipeline
builders, you're the problem!




Figured this would not take too long for Trump's name to come up...
and in a way this is not OT because to most here, America is our home
and it needs repair.


I guess I've spent too many years in bars noticing the friendly guy a
few seats down who borrows money from all the drunks on either side of
him to play bar dice. He never pays anyone back...pockets any money he
makes and if he does nothing but lose, no big deal, not his money.

Sure , hey what's not to like when he says we should bring back US
manufacturing and jobs? Sounds good I suppose but he will soon learn
that the president cannot issue decrees like a king. It's all going to
come tumbling down before too long.


An example where Trump did something right was in talking to Tim Cook
at Apple. Apparently he asked him to bring manufacturing back to the US
and Cook said he's look into it. He also asked Cook what the govt could
do to make that happen. I approve of that positive approach, instead of
the negative approach of vilifying companies like Carrier, Ford, Boeing,
etc.

The obvious problem is that Cook was just being polite. Apple doesn't
put manufacturing in China because they want to. It would be much easier
for them to put it in CA, put it close to their development centers, to
their execs, etc. They put it there because they have to compete.
Cook already knows this. In the article reporting on this, it said that
an iPhone would likely cost $200 to $500 more if built in the USA.
So, Cook will probably come back to Trump with something that shows
that. And how the govt or anyone else can "fix" it, without causing
other collateral damage here, IDK.



When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on the
other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

National Review I know about and salute. Cheney I'm not aware of.
AFAIK, he supported Trump after he got the nomination. Has he said
something recently? Cheney would sure be onboard with Trump and
waterboarding. I mean, talk about Trump stupidity. I was OK with
waterboarding, it was only used on 3 high value captures. But it's
over. It was settled. His nominees for Defense and CIA are both
against it. So, why the hell is Trump bringing this up again?
And the dope didn't stop with waterboarding, he flat out said that
he's OK with *torture*. "I feel it works". Start another needless
firestorm, with headlines around the world saying "Trump wants torture".
Great way to make America great again.

Hankook tires
 

On 1/28/17 11:14 AM, philo wrote:

Sure , hey what's not to like when he says we should bring back US
manufacturing and jobs? Sounds good I suppose but he will soon learn
that the president cannot issue decrees like a king. It's all going to
come tumbling down before too long.

When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on the
other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

This is from Mark J. Perry of the American Enterprise Institute:
http://www.aei.org/publication/reality-check-us-factory-jobs-lost-are-due-overwhelmingly-to-increases-in-productivity-and-theyre-not-coming-back/

There's a chart there showing factory job losses. Most of the jobs
lost are due
to productivity increases.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 10:07 AM, wrote:
Most Hankooks are fine for summer and fall, but
winters are what separate the wheat from the
chaff. ;)

I'm running Hankook studs and they work fine. The last set of studs I
bought were Nokian Hakkapeliittas but i couldn't get them this time
around. I figure the Finns should know something about winter tires but
I have no complaint with the Hankooks.

It's not a valid comparison since the summer tires get a few more miles
on them and on hot pavement but the tread life appears to be better than
the Bridgestone Potenza's that came with the car. The previous Toyota
had the same and they also wore quickly. Toyota goes with a low rolling
resistance tire to improve the fuel economy stats, not tire life. I'm
running Cooper CS5's now and am very happy with them. They are a
touring, not a 'performance', tire but they do very well for handling.

Hankook tires
 

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 12:48:04 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 1/28/17 11:14 AM, philo wrote:

Sure , hey what's not to like when he says we should bring back US
manufacturing and jobs? Sounds good I suppose but he will soon learn
that the president cannot issue decrees like a king. It's all going to
come tumbling down before too long.

When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on the
other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

This is from Mark J. Perry of the American Enterprise Institute:
http://www.aei.org/publication/reality-check-us-factory-jobs-lost-are-due-overwhelmingly-to-increases-in-productivity-and-theyre-not-coming-back/

There's a chart there showing factory job losses. Most of the jobs
lost are due
to productivity increases.

Good find. But good luck convincing Trump or the Trumpets.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 08:47 AM, trader_4 wrote:
You're a very bad American for buying that foreign stuff!

Have you bought tires recently? Where were they made?

I try to buy American but it's difficult. The Democrats and the
so-called conservatives have destroyed US manufacturing so the 1% can
profit. Trump has done more for America in a week than both parties have
done in fifty years.

"Your old road is rapidly aging
Please get out of the new one if you cant lend your hand
For the times they are a'changing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ

I don't know about literature but Dylan should have gotten a Nobel prize
for prophecy.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 09:52 AM, trader_4 wrote:
Doesn't matter, Trump still says it's bad, bad, bad! I see Trump
just learned that all US pipelines are not built with American steel.
He wants to issue an exec order to fix that. Never mind that it's
a violation of WTO, which we belong to.

So there's no mistake, **** the WTO. And the UN. And NATO. Haley is
showing a lot of promise in explaining the facts of life to the UN losers.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 10:14 AM, philo wrote:
When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on the
other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

A has-been rag on its way out and the chicken hawk that got us into Iraq?

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 10:17 AM, philo wrote:

Bought it because it's a hatch back. Though a smaller car, can hold a
hell of a lot. More than some SUV's I've been in.

I've had two Yaris hatchbacks that are sort of mini-pickups. Even back
in the '80's I traded an '80 Camaro in for a '82 Firebird when the new
design was a hatchback.

Hatchbacks have never done well in the US, particularly the 2 door
models and I never could figure out why. You could get 4x8 sheets of
plywood in the Firebird. What more could you want? When you were through
hauling stuff, close the hatch and it was more stylish than the cowboy
Cadillacs like the Ranchero.

Hankook tires
 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 09:44:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all
day or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so
I've stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over
the map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

I run Hankook DynaPro ATM's on our Toyota 4Runner 4x4 , they seem to be
pretty good tires . Not a lot cheaper than the Big Name Tires ... I've
gotten acceptable wear , they have good wet and decent slick/snow traction ,
and they don't roar at highway speeds . A good friend ran a set of these on
his Jeep (CJ type) for 40k then put them on his pickup for IDK how many more
miles . I'm not sure how many miles theres have on them , probably 20k or
more and still have a lot of tread .
When Hankooks first came to Canada their quality was VERY spotty. The
set on my friends van could not be balanced - they had "too many
corners on them" At that time they were significantly cheaper than
regular brand names. Today they are more consistant quality-wize - and
better - but also a lot closer in price to the "big" brands. For a low
use, low demand vehicle they should be fine. Korean tend to be as good
or better than Chinese - and a lot of "brand name" tires ate eithe
Korean or Chinese manufactured today.
For my truck I spend the extra for good Michelin summer and Nokian
winters - on the car good UniRoyal summers andcheaper Chinese snow
tires (car doesn't really go anywhere in the winter but makes some
long high speed trips in the summer)

Hankook tires
 

On 1/28/17 10:19 AM, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They usually
put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time they used
Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if they just
cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.

Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.
FWIW,
They were OEM on my Explorer. Three years in and no problems. Still have
pretty good tread depth.

Hankook tires
 

On 1/28/2017 12:43 PM, trader_4 wrote:
An example where Trump did something right was in talking to Tim Cook
at Apple. Apparently he asked him to bring manufacturing back to the US
and Cook said he's look into it. He also asked Cook what the govt could
do to make that happen. I approve of that positive approach, instead of
the negative approach of vilifying companies like Carrier, Ford, Boeing,
etc.


President Trump knows how to get **** done. He started the ball rolling on his first day of work.

Now shut the **** up and get out of the way! ;-)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...u-s-factories/

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 12:27 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/28/2017 10:14 AM, philo wrote:
When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on the
other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

A has-been rag on its way out and the chicken hawk that got us into Iraq?



National Review has always been taken as gospel until oops, it says one
back thing about Trump then all of a sudden a commie rag.

LOL


Anyway since it 95% praises Trump I'll take that as a has been rag.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 12:35 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/28/2017 10:17 AM, philo wrote:

Bought it because it's a hatch back. Though a smaller car, can hold a
hell of a lot. More than some SUV's I've been in.

I've had two Yaris hatchbacks that are sort of mini-pickups. Even back
in the '80's I traded an '80 Camaro in for a '82 Firebird when the new
design was a hatchback.

Hatchbacks have never done well in the US, particularly the 2 door
models and I never could figure out why. You could get 4x8 sheets of
plywood in the Firebird. What more could you want? When you were through
hauling stuff, close the hatch and it was more stylish than the cowboy
Cadillacs like the Ranchero.



I like my hatchback and it's a four door.

With the seats up just about the same as any other passenger car

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 02:15 PM, Kurt V. Ullman wrote:
On 1/28/17 10:19 AM, philo wrote:
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day
or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've
stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They usually
put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time they used
Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if they just
cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the
map from poor to excellent.

Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.
FWIW,
They were OEM on my Explorer. Three years in and no problems. Still have
pretty good tread depth.




Took it for a long ride today and all seemed just fine

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 10:48 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 1/28/17 11:14 AM, philo wrote:

Sure , hey what's not to like when he says we should bring back US
manufacturing and jobs? Sounds good I suppose but he will soon learn
that the president cannot issue decrees like a king. It's all going to
come tumbling down before too long.

When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on the
other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

This is from Mark J. Perry of the American Enterprise Institute:
http://www.aei.org/publication/reality-check-us-factory-jobs-lost-are-due-overwhelmingly-to-increases-in-productivity-and-theyre-not-coming-back/


There's a chart there showing factory job losses. Most of the jobs
lost are due
to productivity increases.


AEI specialized in fake news before it was cool.

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 04:12 PM, philo wrote:

National Review has always been taken as gospel until oops, it says one
back thing about Trump then all of a sudden a commie rag.

Maybe it's gospel in your church; not in mine. Buckley purged anyone
that wasn't a good little Buckleyite and the trend continues today. I
had no use for NR back when Trump was a reality TV star. I think. I
never actually saw his show.

Trump's that is. I've seen Buckley's. Come to think of it maybe I had no
use for him in 1968.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaBnIzY3R00

Hankook tires
 

On 01/28/2017 04:43 PM, philo wrote:

I like my hatchback and it's a four door.

With the seats up just about the same as any other passenger car

I folded the rear seat down when I got home from the dealership. That
was in 2011 and it hasn't seen the light of day since. I liked the 2007
Yaris better. It had a one piece rear seat back and folded down better.
This one has some sort of two piece gimmick as I recall.

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On 1/28/17 7:29 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/28/2017 10:48 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 1/28/17 11:14 AM, philo wrote:

Sure , hey what's not to like when he says we should bring back
US manufacturing and jobs? Sounds good I suppose but he will soon
learn that the president cannot issue decrees like a king. It's
all going to come tumbling down before too long.

When I see the National Review and Dick Cheney of all people on
the other side of the fence from Trump I see his demise coming.

This is from Mark J. Perry of the American Enterprise Institute:
http://www.aei.org/publication/reality-check-us-factory-jobs-lost-are-due-overwhelmingly-to-increases-in-productivity-and-theyre-not-coming-back/





There's a chart there showing factory job losses. Most of the jobs
lost are due to productivity increases.


AEI specialized in fake news before it was cool.

Ball State University is Perry's source:
http://projects.cberdata.org/reports/MfgReality.pdf

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Tossed Eagles at 12k on my wife's Juke and put Hankooks on. No regrets. I will never buy GY again. At least not GY Eagles, they were garbage.

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philo wrote on 1/28/2017 :
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all day or
deal with buses home. They have always done things right so I've stuck with
them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They usually put
on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time they used Hankook. I
never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if they just cheaped out on me
to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over the map
from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

Ko tires like hankook get the job done to My satisfaction. I just wish
Goodyear would make a reliable tire. I've had several blow out on the
tread and the sidewall. They were Warranted, but going through the
hassle of replacing bad new tires sucks.
The racing tires from Goodyear are very good.

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On 01/28/2017 07:43 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/28/2017 04:43 PM, philo wrote:

I like my hatchback and it's a four door.

With the seats up just about the same as any other passenger car

I folded the rear seat down when I got home from the dealership. That
was in 2011 and it hasn't seen the light of day since. I liked the 2007
Yaris better. It had a one piece rear seat back and folded down better.
This one has some sort of two piece gimmick as I recall.


What I like about the Vibe is even the front passenger seat folds down.
For a small car like that I seem to be able to haul just about anything.

No large items such as refrigerators of course but I stopped doing heavy
lifting a long time ago.

I recently purchased a huge and heavy wooden office desk for $20.
It was cheap because no one wanted to haul it. so I paid professionals
$150. To me the desk was easily worth the $170

When I watched them lug it up the stairs and they did not so much as
touch a wall with it, I knew my money was well spent. There could not
been more than 1" clearance on either side.

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On 01/29/2017 07:09 AM, Thomas wrote:
Tossed Eagles at 12k on my wife's Juke and put Hankooks on. No regrets. I will never buy GY again. At least not GY Eagles, they were garbage.




Never had problems with GY but 12k is extremely poor

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On 01/29/2017 08:06 AM, Naturous wrote:
philo wrote on 1/28/2017 :
I have been taking my cars for service to the same place for 40 years.
It's walking distance from my house so I don't have to sit there all
day or deal with buses home. They have always done things right so
I've stuck with them.

A few days ago all I needed was a couple of tires replaced. They
usually put on Goodyear so I did not specify but I noticed this time
they used Hankook. I never heard of this brand so now I'm wondering if
they just cheaped out on me to make a bigger profit?

Google says they are South Korean and customer reviews vary all over
the map from poor to excellent.


Car gets very little use so perhaps it's a moot point.

Ko tires like hankook get the job done to My satisfaction. I just wish
Goodyear would make a reliable tire. I've had several blow out on the
tread and the sidewall. They were Warranted, but going through the
hassle of replacing bad new tires sucks.
The racing tires from Goodyear are very good.


Guess they are not what they used to be.

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On 01/28/2017 07:38 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 01/28/2017 04:12 PM, philo wrote:

National Review has always been taken as gospel until oops, it says one
back thing about Trump then all of a sudden a commie rag.

Maybe it's gospel in your church; not in mine. Buckley purged anyone
that wasn't a good little Buckleyite and the trend continues today. I
had no use for NR back when Trump was a reality TV star. I think. I
never actually saw his show.

Trump's that is. I've seen Buckley's. Come to think of it maybe I had no
use for him in 1968.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaBnIzY3R00



I do not generally agree with the National Review but read it because I
know it holds an extreme view. Same reason I read the Huffington post.

The Huffington post would never say anything good about a conservative
thought, even if the idea was a good one.

The National Review was in many ways the same in that they only had
praise for Trump during the election. Now that he is in office I find it
significant that the NR is at least once a week publishing high
criticism of Trump even if they are still mostly supportive.

IMHO: They seem to be a bit less biased than Huff

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On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 1:23:28 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 01/28/2017 09:52 AM, trader_4 wrote:
Doesn't matter, Trump still says it's bad, bad, bad! I see Trump
just learned that all US pipelines are not built with American steel.
He wants to issue an exec order to fix that. Never mind that it's
a violation of WTO, which we belong to.

So there's no mistake, **** the WTO. And the UN. And NATO. Haley is
showing a lot of promise in explaining the facts of life to the UN losers.

Yes, let's aspire to be more like North Korea, less like the civilized,
developed western nations and see how well it works. Trump is headed
in that direction.