Thought I would share this with the group.

The problem: A few months ago our 2 speed Amana washer model AW50
(~2-3 years old) started to throw water out of the tub. At first it
appeared to be a leaking tub (inner tub is stainless, outer is steel)
as there was a bead of rust on the lower flange of the outer tub. I
called at least six "repair" people in my area, including two listed
on the Amana site as "authorized repair centers" and no one would help
me out...ok DIY to the rescue, besides if you want something done
right ... after removing the front cover it was apparent that the belt
was nearly shot. There was also a lot of black dust and debris in the
bottom of the unit. Closer inspection revealed that the three brakes
were broken. Apparently what was happening, especially on large loads
was the agitation wouldn't agitate - just surge in one direction,
eventually causing the water to be thrown out of the top of the tub.

The fix: disconnect the power, remove front cover, open the top
cover, disconnect water fill hose, disconnect water drain hose from
pump, disconnect water level hose (small clear tubing on back of tub),
disconnect wiring harness from top of motor housing, disconnect six
large springs from tub base, remove entire tub, invert, replace three
brakes and six screws, remove three pump screws (required #25 torx
driver which I didn't have, but do now), remove idler spring, replace
belt, then put it all back together. Hardest part of the whole job
was hooking the six large springs back up to the tub but I used a
hooked tool that worked slick.

Tools required:
Slotted screw driver
3/8 socket on 3/8 driver
#25 Torx driver
Pliers

Total cost of the repair:
belt from local appliance repair shop: $6.00
set of 3 brakes (6 screws included): $11.00

Total time investment (not including time wasted trying to get a
"professional"):
diagnosing: ~15 minutes
getting parts: ~15 minutes
disassembly: ~15 minutes
reassembly: ~15 minutes

One hour and $17 bucks...hope this is able to help someone else.

Regards,
R. M. Libby

(Mark Libby) wrote in message . com...

Hi,

Apparently what was happening, especially on large loads
was the agitation wouldn't agitate - just surge in one direction,
eventually causing the water to be thrown out of the top of the tub.

Some of the Amana washers have been spinning while agitating with worn
brakes and this can throw the water out/over the top of the tanks

Kinda sounds like what was happening to yours....thankx for the tips!!

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

Thought I would share this with the group.

The problem: A few months ago our 2 speed Amana washer model AW50
(~2-3 years old) started to throw water out of the tub. At first it
appeared to be a leaking tub (inner tub is stainless, outer is steel)
as there was a bead of rust on the lower flange of the outer tub. I
called at least six "repair" people in my area, including two listed
on the Amana site as "authorized repair centers" and no one would help
me out...ok DIY to the rescue, besides if you want something done
right ... after removing the front cover it was apparent that the belt
was nearly shot. There was also a lot of black dust and debris in the
bottom of the unit. Closer inspection revealed that the three brakes
were broken. Apparently what was happening, especially on large loads
was the agitation wouldn't agitate - just surge in one direction,
eventually causing the water to be thrown out of the top of the tub.

The fix: disconnect the power, remove front cover, open the top
cover, disconnect water fill hose, disconnect water drain hose from
pump, disconnect water level hose (small clear tubing on back of tub),
disconnect wiring harness from top of motor housing, disconnect six
large springs from tub base, remove entire tub, invert, replace three
brakes and six screws, remove three pump screws (required #25 torx
driver which I didn't have, but do now), remove idler spring, replace
belt, then put it all back together. Hardest part of the whole job
was hooking the six large springs back up to the tub but I used a
hooked tool that worked slick.

Tools required:
Slotted screw driver
3/8 socket on 3/8 driver
#25 Torx driver
Pliers

Total cost of the repair:
belt from local appliance repair shop: $6.00
set of 3 brakes (6 screws included): $11.00

Total time investment (not including time wasted trying to get a
"professional"):
diagnosing: ~15 minutes
getting parts: ~15 minutes
disassembly: ~15 minutes
reassembly: ~15 minutes

One hour and $17 bucks...hope this is able to help someone else.

Regards,
R. M. Libby

Mark Libby wrote in message ...

The problem: A few months ago our 2 speed
Amana washer model AW50 (~2-3 years old)
started to throw water out of the tub. At first it
appeared to be a leaking tub as there was a
bead of rust on the lower flange of the outer tub.

I called at least six "repair" people in my area,
including two listed on the Amana site as
"authorized repair centers" and no one would
help me out...
With what? Tell you the problem and how to repair it??

There's a limit to what an appliance repair company will (or are able
to) tell you over the phone (and for free). They wouldn't be in
business long if all they did was that. JMO

Glad to hear you were able to solve the problem though.

Dan O.
-
Appliance411.com
http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Amana+washer

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Hi Mark,

Just for future reference, there's no need to remove the entire
tank/mechanism to replace brakes, pump, or belt.

*Much* easier and faster to pull the motor/pump assy.
Makes it a 'snap' to get to those torx screws, and while the
motor assy's out of the way, the brakes are easy to reach
too, using a small 1/4" drive ratchet.

The pump can actually be removed and the belt replaced
*without* pulling the motor, by using a close-quarters ratchet
and torx bit, but it's a whole lot easier to just pull the assy out.

Thanks for taking the time to give us the 'heads-up' on this. I
don't see a lot of Amana/Speed Queen here any more, and
I'm glad to be reminded that GE Profile washers aren't the
only machines that agitate and spin at the same time, throwing
water over the top grin.

God bless,

Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
New Albany, PA
www.DavesRepair.com

570-363-2404

I'm a 32-year pro appliance technician, and love sharing what
I've learned - in a FREE Monthly Appliance Tips Newsletter.
(Back issues now posted here too!) www.DavesRepair.com

Isa 40:31

"Mark Libby" wrote in message
om...
Thought I would share this with the group.

The problem: A few months ago our 2 speed Amana washer model AW50
(~2-3 years old) started to throw water out of the tub. At first it
appeared to be a leaking tub (inner tub is stainless, outer is steel)
as there was a bead of rust on the lower flange of the outer tub. I
called at least six "repair" people in my area, including two listed
on the Amana site as "authorized repair centers" and no one would help
me out...ok DIY to the rescue, besides if you want something done
right ... after removing the front cover it was apparent that the belt
was nearly shot. There was also a lot of black dust and debris in the
bottom of the unit. Closer inspection revealed that the three brakes
were broken. Apparently what was happening, especially on large loads
was the agitation wouldn't agitate - just surge in one direction,
eventually causing the water to be thrown out of the top of the tub.

The fix: disconnect the power, remove front cover, open the top
cover, disconnect water fill hose, disconnect water drain hose from
pump, disconnect water level hose (small clear tubing on back of tub),
disconnect wiring harness from top of motor housing, disconnect six
large springs from tub base, remove entire tub, invert, replace three
brakes and six screws, remove three pump screws (required #25 torx
driver which I didn't have, but do now), remove idler spring, replace
belt, then put it all back together. Hardest part of the whole job
was hooking the six large springs back up to the tub but I used a
hooked tool that worked slick.

Tools required:
Slotted screw driver
3/8 socket on 3/8 driver
#25 Torx driver
Pliers

Total cost of the repair:
belt from local appliance repair shop: $6.00
set of 3 brakes (6 screws included): $11.00

Total time investment (not including time wasted trying to get a
"professional"):
diagnosing: ~15 minutes
getting parts: ~15 minutes
disassembly: ~15 minutes
reassembly: ~15 minutes

One hour and $17 bucks...hope this is able to help someone else.

Regards,
R. M. Libby

"Dan O." wrote in message ...
Mark Libby wrote in message ...

The problem: A few months ago our 2 speed
Amana washer model AW50 (~2-3 years old)
started to throw water out of the tub. At first it
appeared to be a leaking tub as there was a
bead of rust on the lower flange of the outer tub.

I called at least six "repair" people in my area,
including two listed on the Amana site as
"authorized repair centers" and no one would
help me out...
With what? Tell you the problem and how to repair it??

There's a limit to what an appliance repair company will (or are able
to) tell you over the phone (and for free). They wouldn't be in
business long if all they did was that. JMO

Glad to hear you were able to solve the problem though.

Dan O.
-
Appliance411.com
http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Amana+washer

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Hi Dan,

Sorry for being unclear -- I called the repair centers seeking to have
THEM repair the washer - not walk me through the diagnosis and repair.
Maybe they knew it would be cost ineffective to have them to do it -
maybe not - and I am sure that they were not representative of all of
the fine folks in the appliance repair business.

Best Regards,

Mark Libby

"Dave Harnish" wrote in message

Just for future reference, there's no need to remove the entire
tank/mechanism to replace brakes, pump, or belt.

*Much* easier and faster to pull the motor/pump assy.
Makes it a 'snap' to get to those torx screws, and while the
motor assy's out of the way, the brakes are easy to reach
too, using a small 1/4" drive ratchet.


Thanks for the tip Dave, should be a breeze if this ever happens again!

Best Regards,

Mark Libby

Mark Libby wrote in message ...

The problem: A few months ago our 2 speed
Amana washer model AW50 (~2-3 years old)
started to throw water out of the tub. At first it
appeared to be a leaking tub as there was a
bead of rust on the lower flange of the outer tub.

I called at least six "repair" people in my area,
including two listed on the Amana site as
"authorized repair centers" and no one would
help me out...

Hi Dan,

Sorry for being unclear -- I called the repair centers
seeking to have THEM repair the washer -
Maybe they knew it would be cost ineffective to
have them to do it - maybe not - and I am sure that
they were not representative of all of the fine folks
in the appliance repair business.

Since Maytag now owns Amana maybe the service depots Amana lists are
mainly former Maytag dealers which don't have much experience with
older Amana laundry products?

I really don't think they should be turning the work away but if you
need service in the future, you could try a *commercial* appliance
repair shop (one which does laundry mats, etc.) and which is familiar
with Speed Queen washers as Amana's washer design is based on Speed
Queen's.

JFYI

Dan O.
-
Appliance411.com
http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Amana+washer

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My best was a Whirlpool washer failure. The first one, I did
change out the coupler by tipping the washer (careful not to
let the freon leak out). And the second one, I read the
washer repair book I've got, and foudn out how to pop the
whole cover off.

(the second one, the HO had tried his best to pry the
ejector pump off the shaft, not knowing that you don't have
to; the berring started leaking.)

Thanks for sharing. Having your washer running: Priceless.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"Mark Libby" wrote in message
om...
Thought I would share this with the group.

The problem: A few months ago our 2 speed Amana washer
model AW50
(~2-3 years old) started to throw water out of the tub. At
first it
appeared to be a leaking tub (inner tub is stainless, outer
is steel)
as there was a bead of rust on the lower flange of the outer
tub. I
called at least six "repair" people in my area, including
two listed
on the Amana site as "authorized repair centers" and no one
would help
me out...ok DIY to the rescue, besides if you want something
done
right ... after removing the front cover it was apparent
that the belt
was nearly shot. There was also a lot of black dust and
debris in the
bottom of the unit. Closer inspection revealed that the
three brakes
were broken. Apparently what was happening, especially on
large loads
was the agitation wouldn't agitate - just surge in one
direction,
eventually causing the water to be thrown out of the top of
the tub.

The fix: disconnect the power, remove front cover, open the
top
cover, disconnect water fill hose, disconnect water drain
hose from
pump, disconnect water level hose (small clear tubing on
back of tub),
disconnect wiring harness from top of motor housing,
disconnect six
large springs from tub base, remove entire tub, invert,
replace three
brakes and six screws, remove three pump screws (required
#25 torx
driver which I didn't have, but do now), remove idler
spring, replace
belt, then put it all back together. Hardest part of the
whole job
was hooking the six large springs back up to the tub but I
used a
hooked tool that worked slick.

Tools required:
Slotted screw driver
3/8 socket on 3/8 driver
#25 Torx driver
Pliers

Total cost of the repair:
belt from local appliance repair shop: $6.00
set of 3 brakes (6 screws included): $11.00

Total time investment (not including time wasted trying to
get a
"professional"):
diagnosing: ~15 minutes
getting parts: ~15 minutes
disassembly: ~15 minutes
reassembly: ~15 minutes

One hour and $17 bucks...hope this is able to help someone
else.

Regards,
R. M. Libby

We have the same problem on alt.hvac, and also on my
business here. People call and want me to tell them, for
free, how to fix their stuff. Sometimes when I'm in a good
mood, I'll give them a few hints. But overall, I worked hard
for that wisdom, and you got to pay me for it.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


"Dan O." wrote in message
...

I called at least six "repair" people and no one would
help me out...

With what? Tell you the problem and how to repair it??

There's a limit to what an appliance repair company will (or
are able
to) tell you over the phone (and for free). They wouldn't be
in
business long if all they did was that. JMO

Glad to hear you were able to solve the problem though.

Dan O.
-
Appliance411.com
http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Amana+washer

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