Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

We found a house that we really liked last week and it matches our
criteria. There a couple of questionable things about this house.

This house has a real stucco with stacked stone front and concreted
siding on the sides and back. This house is built in 1997 by Ryland
homes in Atlanta, Georgia, well maintained interior and exterior and
looks impeccable.

I like brick fronts and my agent told me that he does not even list
stucco houses in general.

I heard from a friend that because the house is real stucco, we can
pay a contractor to make this to brick front. Is this a good idea ?

Is it common to convert a real stucco to a brick front ?.

Does it effect the resale value of the house ?

What is a rough ball park number for converting?

Please please help.

Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

"raiden" wrote in message
m...
We found a house that we really liked last week and it matches our
criteria. There a couple of questionable things about this house.

This house has a real stucco with stacked stone front and concreted
siding on the sides and back. This house is built in 1997 by Ryland
homes in Atlanta, Georgia, well maintained interior and exterior and
looks impeccable.

I like brick fronts and my agent told me that he does not even list
stucco houses in general.

I heard from a friend that because the house is real stucco, we can
pay a contractor to make this to brick front. Is this a good idea ?

Is it common to convert a real stucco to a brick front ?.

Does it effect the resale value of the house ?

What is a rough ball park number for converting?

Please please help.

As apposed to fake stucco??? I am lost why do you want to remove the skin
of a new home? If it is for looks you going to spend a lot of money that you
probably will never get back. Your talking about removing the outer sheath
of your home. I own a Richmond-American home that is built the same way. It
will be expensive and you had better be talking to the inspectors about
this.

Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

FIrst of all there is real old fashion stucco and there is synthetic stucco.
The latter is a problem because it may trap humidity in the walls and
eventually the structure rots out. It has been outlawed in many areas and
has dragged down the value of real stucco homes even though there is nothing
wrong with real stucco.

Brick requires a footing. Stucco does not. So there is no footing there
except where the stacked stone is assuming it is real and not a veneer.

Bricking up a house is a major deal and quite frankly, you don't sound like
you know enuf about houses to get involved unless you can find a top notch
contractor which is rare. Most brick houses are not flashed correctly and
the brick is not tied to the framing correctly. In your case, how can the
brick be tied to the framing since the framing studs are no longer visible
thru the exisiting siding. You are asking for trouble but if you want to
pursue it visit the Brick Industry Association site and read their technical
notes about installing brick. There's a lot more to it then you (and most
contractors) know.



"raiden" wrote in message
m...
We found a house that we really liked last week and it matches our
criteria. There a couple of questionable things about this house.

This house has a real stucco with stacked stone front and concreted
siding on the sides and back. This house is built in 1997 by Ryland
homes in Atlanta, Georgia, well maintained interior and exterior and
looks impeccable.

I like brick fronts and my agent told me that he does not even list
stucco houses in general.

I heard from a friend that because the house is real stucco, we can
pay a contractor to make this to brick front. Is this a good idea ?

Is it common to convert a real stucco to a brick front ?.

Does it effect the resale value of the house ?

What is a rough ball park number for converting?

Please please help.

Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

"Art" wrote in message hlink.net...
FIrst of all there is real old fashion stucco and there is synthetic stucco.
The latter is a problem because it may trap humidity in the walls and
eventually the structure rots out. It has been outlawed in many areas and
has dragged down the value of real stucco homes even though there is nothing
wrong with real stucco.

Brick requires a footing. Stucco does not. So there is no footing there
except where the stacked stone is assuming it is real and not a veneer.

Bricking up a house is a major deal and quite frankly, you don't sound like
you know enuf about houses to get involved unless you can find a top notch
contractor which is rare. Most brick houses are not flashed correctly and
the brick is not tied to the framing correctly. In your case, how can the
brick be tied to the framing since the framing studs are no longer visible
thru the exisiting siding. You are asking for trouble but if you want to
pursue it visit the Brick Industry Association site and read their technical
notes about installing brick. There's a lot more to it then you (and most
contractors) know.



"raiden" wrote in message
m...
We found a house that we really liked last week and it matches our
criteria. There a couple of questionable things about this house.

This house has a real stucco with stacked stone front and concreted
siding on the sides and back. This house is built in 1997 by Ryland
homes in Atlanta, Georgia, well maintained interior and exterior and
looks impeccable.

I like brick fronts and my agent told me that he does not even list
stucco houses in general.

I heard from a friend that because the house is real stucco, we can
pay a contractor to make this to brick front. Is this a good idea ?

Is it common to convert a real stucco to a brick front ?.

Does it effect the resale value of the house ?

What is a rough ball park number for converting?

Please please help.


Thanks for your advise. I am a first time buyer. I will try and look
for the house with the brick front instead of doing custom work. You
guys helped me make the decision. Thanks for your help.

Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

As some one in the construction business of sorts (an architect) I wanted to
give you something to consider.

As I'm sure you know, brick is supposed to be tied to the studs of a house.
After they frame a house and put up the sheathing, they usually (at least in
my area) cover the house with tyvac or some other brand paper.

Have you ever seen them mark the position of the studs as they put up the
paper? I've never seen it once. Never. So how the heck can the masons be
putting the brick ties into the studs. Answer..... they don't unless they
randomly hit one once in a while. Basically all these brick veneered houses
are not being built properly and its a crime, in my opinion.

Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

From: "Art"


As some one in the construction business of sorts (an architect) I wanted to
give you something to consider.

As I'm sure you know, brick is supposed to be tied to the studs of a house.
After they frame a house and put up the sheathing, they usually (at least in
my area) cover the house with tyvac or some other brand paper.

Have you ever seen them mark the position of the studs as they put up the
paper? I've never seen it once. Never. So how the heck can the masons be
putting the brick ties into the studs. Answer..... they don't unless they
randomly hit one once in a while. Basically all these brick veneered houses
are not being built properly and its a crime, in my opinion.

I don't think it's supposed to be tied into the actual studs - they usually
just nail the ties to the sheathing. Whe weight of the bricks is supposed to be
carried by the foundation lip.

Converting a Real stucco with stacked stone to a brick front
 

Supposed to be in the studs.

http://www.bia.org/

See the many technical notes. Note also that the corrugated ties used
almost all the time on residential jobs are not recommended.




"HA HA Budys Here" wrote in message
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From: "Art"


As some one in the construction business of sorts (an architect) I wanted
to
give you something to consider.

As I'm sure you know, brick is supposed to be tied to the studs of a
house.
After they frame a house and put up the sheathing, they usually (at least
in
my area) cover the house with tyvac or some other brand paper.

Have you ever seen them mark the position of the studs as they put up the
paper? I've never seen it once. Never. So how the heck can the masons be
putting the brick ties into the studs. Answer..... they don't unless
they
randomly hit one once in a while. Basically all these brick veneered
houses
are not being built properly and its a crime, in my opinion.

I don't think it's supposed to be tied into the actual studs - they
usually
just nail the ties to the sheathing. Whe weight of the bricks is supposed
to be
carried by the foundation lip.