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Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave
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There are a few that use solid-state components to activate the HVAC
equipment, and these may be described as having battery backup, but running
on the voltage provided by the HVAC equipment. But most of the units are
more universal in their design, so they work on the majority of control
systems used on HVAC equipment.

Unfortunately, the best and most universal way to activate the HVAC
equipment is with dry contacts, the kind that small relays have. Being an
electro-mechanical device, when the contacts activate, there is some noise
associated with that action. Some are noisier than others. The relays are
small, the contacts are small, so to make a good connection they must really
"snap" into position.

After a while, either you get used to it, or you move the thermostat around
the corner to a room or space where you can't hear it anymore, and hope that
the resulting temperature is still within your comfort zone.

The original Honeywell round thermostats use a mercury switch inside that's
totally silent as it makes the connection, but this kind of unit is not
digital and can't be programmed. I would not be surprised however to find
that the Honeywell units are very quiet, if not silent, so it may be worth
buying one and trying it out. If there's no improvement, or it's too noisy,
you should be able to return it to the store where you purchased it.

Bob M.
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"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
om...
Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave



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my digital clicks

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You are right, there was no click with my digital Honeywell
thermostat. Can't really imagine there would be one with
any kind of electronic thermostat, wouldn't they all use a
solid state switch. Why would anyone put the mechanical
relay, if there is one, in the thermostat instead of at the
furnace. There may be a click at my furnace but there is so
much other noise when it start that you couldn't hear a
click without having the furnace cover off. A mechanical
relay in a digital thermostat sounds like a real design
flaw.

"Bob M." wrote:

There are a few that use solid-state components to activate the HVAC
equipment, and these may be described as having battery backup, but running
on the voltage provided by the HVAC equipment. But most of the units are
more universal in their design, so they work on the majority of control
systems used on HVAC equipment.

Unfortunately, the best and most universal way to activate the HVAC
equipment is with dry contacts, the kind that small relays have. Being an
electro-mechanical device, when the contacts activate, there is some noise
associated with that action. Some are noisier than others. The relays are
small, the contacts are small, so to make a good connection they must really
"snap" into position.

After a while, either you get used to it, or you move the thermostat around
the corner to a room or space where you can't hear it anymore, and hope that
the resulting temperature is still within your comfort zone.

The original Honeywell round thermostats use a mercury switch inside that's
totally silent as it makes the connection, but this kind of unit is not
digital and can't be programmed. I would not be surprised however to find
that the Honeywell units are very quiet, if not silent, so it may be worth
buying one and trying it out. If there's no improvement, or it's too noisy,
you should be able to return it to the store where you purchased it.

Bob M.
======
"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
om...
Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave

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I have 3 Sears digital thermostats in my house all top rated by
Consumer Reports many years ago. Don't know who makes them. They all
have a slight click. I am very adverse to noise but they are not loud
enuf to be annoying.


"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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You are right, there was no click with my digital Honeywell
thermostat. Can't really imagine there would be one with
any kind of electronic thermostat, wouldn't they all use a
solid state switch. Why would anyone put the mechanical
relay, if there is one, in the thermostat instead of at the
furnace. There may be a click at my furnace but there is so
much other noise when it start that you couldn't hear a
click without having the furnace cover off. A mechanical
relay in a digital thermostat sounds like a real design
flaw.

"Bob M." wrote:

There are a few that use solid-state components to activate the

HVAC
equipment, and these may be described as having battery backup,

but running
on the voltage provided by the HVAC equipment. But most of the

units are
more universal in their design, so they work on the majority of

control
systems used on HVAC equipment.

Unfortunately, the best and most universal way to activate the

HVAC
equipment is with dry contacts, the kind that small relays have.

Being an
electro-mechanical device, when the contacts activate, there is

some noise
associated with that action. Some are noisier than others. The

relays are
small, the contacts are small, so to make a good connection they

must really
"snap" into position.

After a while, either you get used to it, or you move the

thermostat around
the corner to a room or space where you can't hear it anymore, and

hope that
the resulting temperature is still within your comfort zone.

The original Honeywell round thermostats use a mercury switch

inside that's
totally silent as it makes the connection, but this kind of unit

is not
digital and can't be programmed. I would not be surprised however

to find
that the Honeywell units are very quiet, if not silent, so it may

be worth
buying one and trying it out. If there's no improvement, or it's

too noisy,
you should be able to return it to the store where you purchased

it.

Bob M.
======
"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
om...
Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the

relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their

help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not,

I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet

of the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good

replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave





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Hi George, hope you are having a nice day

On 21-Dec-03 At About 00:04:06, George E. Cawthon wrote to All
Subject: Digital Thermostat Click

GEC From: "George E. Cawthon"

GEC You are right, there was no click with my digital Honeywell
GEC thermostat. Can't really imagine there would be one with any kind
GEC of electronic thermostat, wouldn't they all use a solid state
GEC switch. Why would anyone put the mechanical relay, if there is one,
GEC in the thermostat instead of at the furnace. There may be a click
GEC at my furnace but there is so much other noise when it start that
GEC you couldn't hear a click without having the furnace cover off. A
GEC mechanical relay in a digital thermostat sounds like a real design
GEC flaw.

There are several models with mechanical relays. there are several reasons
for this. one is to make it compatible with millivolt systems. the other one
is to keep the bleed through down which causes some unit circuit boards
problem so it isn't a design flaw. it is a plus.


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HvacTech2 wrote:

Hi George, hope you are having a nice day

On 21-Dec-03 At About 00:04:06, George E. Cawthon wrote to All
Subject: Digital Thermostat Click

GEC From: "George E. Cawthon"

GEC You are right, there was no click with my digital Honeywell
GEC thermostat. Can't really imagine there would be one with any kind
GEC of electronic thermostat, wouldn't they all use a solid state
GEC switch. Why would anyone put the mechanical relay, if there is one,
GEC in the thermostat instead of at the furnace. There may be a click
GEC at my furnace but there is so much other noise when it start that
GEC you couldn't hear a click without having the furnace cover off. A
GEC mechanical relay in a digital thermostat sounds like a real design
GEC flaw.

There are several models with mechanical relays. there are several reasons
for this. one is to make it compatible with millivolt systems. the other one
is to keep the bleed through down which causes some unit circuit boards
problem so it isn't a design flaw. it is a plus.

-= HvacTech2 =-

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Thanks for the explanation. I understand the need for
clicks in mechanical systems. BUT, we live in a computer
and semiconductor age. I'm no electronics guy so don't know
much about bleed through.
My computer turns all sort of stuff on and off inside the
case, and except for a grunting hard disk, there are no
click like noises; lots of motor whine, doors opening and
closing, but I don't hear clicks except those I make with
the keyboard and mouse. If my computer were operating
peripherals about the house, I would put the relays, if
needed, in the peripheral. I can understand relay noise
with heavy amperage, but there is no reason to have high
amperage within an electronic thermostat. Maybe it isn't a
design flaw, just a design that cheap or fails to take
advantage of newer technology, but I can't see it as a plus,
unless simplicity, univeral applications, low cost, or some
other think is the primary purpose.

I get really ****ed at extraneous and unknow cause noises.
I don't even like clicks from light switches; that's why I
use silent or mercury switches. Lots of electronic stuff
burps, buzzes, vibrates, but it most cases it because of
poorly made or poorly installed parts (too tight, too loose,
or failure to use an insulator.

My Amana gas heater ****es me off with the noise it makes
when it turns on. I'm told there is nothing they can do.
The noise goes straight into the plenum and then to a
bedroom bath where is much louder than standing right 1 foot
from the furnace. It's a high pitched whine which could be
either electrical or mechanical. It starts just before or
at the same time as the inducer fan starts, before the
burner comes on, and before the main blower starts. It is
not the inducer fan--with the cover panel off the inducer
fan runs very quitely. Whatever it is, it is the first
thing and continues until the inducer fan shuts off, but the
whine is masked when the burner comes on.
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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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HvacTech2 wrote:

Hi George, hope you are having a nice day

On 21-Dec-03 At About 00:04:06, George E. Cawthon wrote to All
Subject: Digital Thermostat Click

GEC From: "George E. Cawthon"

GEC You are right, there was no click with my digital Honeywell
GEC thermostat. Can't really imagine there would be one with any kind
GEC of electronic thermostat, wouldn't they all use a solid state
GEC switch. Why would anyone put the mechanical relay, if there is

one,
GEC in the thermostat instead of at the furnace. There may be a click
GEC at my furnace but there is so much other noise when it start that
GEC you couldn't hear a click without having the furnace cover off. A
GEC mechanical relay in a digital thermostat sounds like a real design
GEC flaw.

There are several models with mechanical relays. there are several

reasons
for this. one is to make it compatible with millivolt systems. the other

one
is to keep the bleed through down which causes some unit circuit boards
problem so it isn't a design flaw. it is a plus.

-= HvacTech2 =-

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Thanks for the explanation. I understand the need for
clicks in mechanical systems. BUT, we live in a computer
and semiconductor age. I'm no electronics guy so don't know
much about bleed through.
My computer turns all sort of stuff on and off inside the
case, and except for a grunting hard disk, there are no
click like noises; lots of motor whine, doors opening and
closing, but I don't hear clicks except those I make with
the keyboard and mouse. If my computer were operating
peripherals about the house, I would put the relays, if
needed, in the peripheral. I can understand relay noise
with heavy amperage, but there is no reason to have high
amperage within an electronic thermostat. Maybe it isn't a
design flaw, just a design that cheap or fails to take
advantage of newer technology, but I can't see it as a plus,
unless simplicity, univeral applications, low cost, or some
other think is the primary purpose.

I get really ****ed at extraneous and unknow cause noises.
I don't even like clicks from light switches; that's why I
use silent or mercury switches. Lots of electronic stuff
burps, buzzes, vibrates, but it most cases it because of
poorly made or poorly installed parts (too tight, too loose,
or failure to use an insulator.

My Amana gas heater ****es me off with the noise it makes
when it turns on. I'm told there is nothing they can do.
The noise goes straight into the plenum and then to a
bedroom bath where is much louder than standing right 1 foot
from the furnace. It's a high pitched whine which could be
either electrical or mechanical. It starts just before or
at the same time as the inducer fan starts, before the
burner comes on, and before the main blower starts. It is
not the inducer fan--with the cover panel off the inducer
fan runs very quitely. Whatever it is, it is the first
thing and continues until the inducer fan shuts off, but the
whine is masked when the burner comes on.


That's what you get for buying an AMANA.

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"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
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Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.


Problem #1..Hunter and Lux, Cheapest of the Cheap. Garbage. Total complete,
utter crap.

Yes, its normal for those to sound like a door being slammed shut.


Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats?


Pretty much. Honeywell makes a few high end units that you cant just run out
and buy that are fairly silent, but all use relays now of some sort...at
least one on the board, and what you call distracting, most will not notice.


If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.


You might look at a Honeywell T8195 B 1009. It has setback provisions, a
clock for allowing to setback the unit, and a fixed anticipator. It is also
a mercury switch unit and is totally silent.
It is very hard to locate outside of CA, but we use them all the time here
in NC. Perhaps, one of the best mercury units other than the old T87F
Honeywell, also known as The Round One.


Thanks,

Dave



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"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
om...
Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave


This is Turtle.

The Clicking noise on digital thermostats are normal in this way. the upper
end of the quality scale of thermostats really rarely make any Clicking
noise. now the lower end of the digital thermostat quality scale will click
on most all the models. Now all brands make low end equipment and high end
equipment except Hunter, Lux, and Jade, which does not make high end
equipment.

Now to Hunter, jade, and Lux being of any quality or not. They are just one
of the boys down at the low end of the quality scale and it seems to me to
have more trouble out of low end equipment at the lower end of the equipment
scale. Now Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw do make equipment in
this low end equipment scale and i do see trouble out of them too, but not
as much as Hunter, jade, and Lux with problems. This is my take on the
thermostat game.

Now to the ideal of hvac people putting down Hunter, Jade, and Lux for they
can be bought at any hardware stores all over and the hvac people wanting to
sell you Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw because you can't buy them
and there is a better mark up on them. that is a bunch of bull for any major
hardware stores [ Lowes, home depot, Southerlands, HobbyLobby, Ace, and
Office Max ] all sell the honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers. What I'm
tring to tell you is if your going to buy your own thermostat to put on
yourself. Get the Honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers in the place of
the Hunter, Jade, and Lux for just getting less trouble and i did not say no
trouble. In my hvac business I see bad thermostats or malifuctioning
thermostats as the years go by and 80% of these will be hunter, jade, or Lux
and 20% will be Honeywell, Robert shaw, or White Rogers. now one note here
and that is i see the least trouble out of Honeywell than any other brand.
Now your going to have to pay about $5.00 to $10.00 more for a Honeywell but
i think it is worth it.

TURTLE




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"TURTLE" wrote in message
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Watch out Turtle...you will get called a pro defending his turf, even though
you and I both have talked about it being ok for a person to do all the work
he wants, since we are not threatened by the DIY...besides, without them, we
would lose so much work in the way of fixing screwups..


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TURTLE wrote:

"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
om...
Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave


This is Turtle.

The Clicking noise on digital thermostats are normal in this way. the upper
end of the quality scale of thermostats really rarely make any Clicking
noise. now the lower end of the digital thermostat quality scale will click
on most all the models. Now all brands make low end equipment and high end
equipment except Hunter, Lux, and Jade, which does not make high end
equipment.

Now to Hunter, jade, and Lux being of any quality or not. They are just one
of the boys down at the low end of the quality scale and it seems to me to
have more trouble out of low end equipment at the lower end of the equipment
scale. Now Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw do make equipment in
this low end equipment scale and i do see trouble out of them too, but not
as much as Hunter, jade, and Lux with problems. This is my take on the
thermostat game.

Now to the ideal of hvac people putting down Hunter, Jade, and Lux for they
can be bought at any hardware stores all over and the hvac people wanting to
sell you Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw because you can't buy them
and there is a better mark up on them. that is a bunch of bull for any major
hardware stores [ Lowes, home depot, Southerlands, HobbyLobby, Ace, and
Office Max ] all sell the honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers. What I'm
tring to tell you is if your going to buy your own thermostat to put on
yourself. Get the Honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers in the place of
the Hunter, Jade, and Lux for just getting less trouble and i did not say no
trouble. In my hvac business I see bad thermostats or malifuctioning
thermostats as the years go by and 80% of these will be hunter, jade, or Lux
and 20% will be Honeywell, Robert shaw, or White Rogers. now one note here
and that is i see the least trouble out of Honeywell than any other brand.
Now your going to have to pay about $5.00 to $10.00 more for a Honeywell but
i think it is worth it.

TURTLE


I read what you said and what CBhvac said about clicking
being normal. That may be true but if there was much of a
click I would hear it as mine is in the hall with a straight
shot of about 12 feet to my ear. So after saying that my
Honeywell doesn't click, I decided to check further. I put
my ear about 1 inch from the thermostat and raised the
desired temperature 4 degrees. The furnace came on. No
click, no noise of any kind at the thermostat. My honeywell
does not click! The diagram in the thermostat manual for
hooking up the wires indicates that the wires from the
thermostat go to a relay(s) that are not part of the
thermostat.

Maybe I'm just lucky getting the Honeywell thermostat that I
have. Personally, I would take back any electronic
thermostat that made any noise for any reason other than
programmed beeps.
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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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I read what you said and what CBhvac said about clicking
being normal. That may be true but if there was much of a
click I would hear it as mine is in the hall with a straight
shot of about 12 feet to my ear. So after saying that my
Honeywell doesn't click, I decided to check further. I put
my ear about 1 inch from the thermostat and raised the
desired temperature 4 degrees. The furnace came on. No
click, no noise of any kind at the thermostat. My honeywell
does not click!


look, this is simple
there are many different kinds of heating systems and they use different
voltages.
My thermostat doesn't click either but it only works with 12 volts.
there are thermostats that work with 120V and a mechanical relay can drive
more current than a transistor


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"j j" wrote in message
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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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I read what you said and what CBhvac said about clicking
being normal. That may be true but if there was much of a
click I would hear it as mine is in the hall with a straight
shot of about 12 feet to my ear. So after saying that my
Honeywell doesn't click, I decided to check further. I put
my ear about 1 inch from the thermostat and raised the
desired temperature 4 degrees. The furnace came on. No
click, no noise of any kind at the thermostat. My honeywell
does not click!


look, this is simple
there are many different kinds of heating systems and they use different
voltages.
My thermostat doesn't click either but it only works with 12 volts.
there are thermostats that work with 120V and a mechanical relay can drive
more current than a transistor


This is Turtle.

JJ , we are talking about clicking and not voltages. We are talking about
residentiual hvac system and the voltage are limited to 24 volts or less to
control with. If it comes under commercial you can get the 120 volt
thermostats / Line voltage thermostats. Most line voltage thermostats will
click for they have heavy terminals to call for the 120 volts on the
controls. The 24 volt thermostat don't need to click for there is maybe at
most 1 amp of power to turn on.

Clicking on residentiual equipment has nothing to do with the voltage to
choose operate at but more of the quality of the thermostat you have.

You have me on the 12 volt control of your system. i would like to know what
type uses this 12 volts to control with. I know 250 mill-volts to 750
mill-volts , 24 volts, 120 volt, 220 volts, and 480 volt but 12 volts just
gets by me here.

TURTLE


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JJ , we are talking about clicking and not voltages.


read the post I replied to. The guy asked why thermostats might use relays
and not solid state switches. High voltage/current thermostats might be one
place where you can't stick a powerful enough solid state switch.

You have me on the 12 volt control of your system. i would like to know

what
type uses this 12 volts to control with.


It's probably my mistake, it must be 24V
it's an oil-burning boiler, pretty standard.





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I bought a Robert Shaw at Ace and it crapped out after a few years.
Meanwhile a Lux and 3 Sears (not sure who makes the Sears) have lasted
much longer. All had a slight click. The RobertShaw was about $125.
The others were about half that.



"TURTLE" wrote in message
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"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
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Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the

relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their

help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of

the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good

replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave


This is Turtle.

The Clicking noise on digital thermostats are normal in this way.

the upper
end of the quality scale of thermostats really rarely make any

Clicking
noise. now the lower end of the digital thermostat quality scale

will click
on most all the models. Now all brands make low end equipment and

high end
equipment except Hunter, Lux, and Jade, which does not make high end
equipment.

Now to Hunter, jade, and Lux being of any quality or not. They are

just one
of the boys down at the low end of the quality scale and it seems to

me to
have more trouble out of low end equipment at the lower end of the

equipment
scale. Now Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw do make

equipment in
this low end equipment scale and i do see trouble out of them too,

but not
as much as Hunter, jade, and Lux with problems. This is my take on

the
thermostat game.

Now to the ideal of hvac people putting down Hunter, Jade, and Lux

for they
can be bought at any hardware stores all over and the hvac people

wanting to
sell you Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw because you can't

buy them
and there is a better mark up on them. that is a bunch of bull for

any major
hardware stores [ Lowes, home depot, Southerlands, HobbyLobby, Ace,

and
Office Max ] all sell the honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers.

What I'm
tring to tell you is if your going to buy your own thermostat to put

on
yourself. Get the Honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers in the

place of
the Hunter, Jade, and Lux for just getting less trouble and i did

not say no
trouble. In my hvac business I see bad thermostats or malifuctioning
thermostats as the years go by and 80% of these will be hunter,

jade, or Lux
and 20% will be Honeywell, Robert shaw, or White Rogers. now one

note here
and that is i see the least trouble out of Honeywell than any other

brand.
Now your going to have to pay about $5.00 to $10.00 more for a

Honeywell but
i think it is worth it.

TURTLE




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"Art Begun" wrote in message
nk.net...
I bought a Robert Shaw at Ace and it crapped out after a few years.
Meanwhile a Lux and 3 Sears (not sure who makes the Sears) have lasted
much longer. All had a slight click. The RobertShaw was about $125.
The others were about half that.


The older Sears, since you didnt state when , or a model number, were made
by either Robertshaw, or Honeywell for the most part.
If you pull the front cover off, and there is a sticker still there that you
can read, or a imprint, or a number, manytimes you can tell that way...




"TURTLE" wrote in message
...

"Dave Gallant" wrote in message
om...
Greetings:

I have a Hunter Digital Thermostat [Set and Save 110], and the

relay
makes a "click" noise every time the unit calls for heat. Their

help
department tells me that this is a normal function of this unit.

Is this a standard operation of all digital thermostats? If not, I
will be making a change. I have an office setup within 15 feet of

the
unit, and the sound can distracting. Suggestions on a good

replacement
would be appreciated - heat only, for hot water baseboards.

Thanks,

Dave


This is Turtle.

The Clicking noise on digital thermostats are normal in this way.

the upper
end of the quality scale of thermostats really rarely make any

Clicking
noise. now the lower end of the digital thermostat quality scale

will click
on most all the models. Now all brands make low end equipment and

high end
equipment except Hunter, Lux, and Jade, which does not make high end
equipment.

Now to Hunter, jade, and Lux being of any quality or not. They are

just one
of the boys down at the low end of the quality scale and it seems to

me to
have more trouble out of low end equipment at the lower end of the

equipment
scale. Now Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw do make

equipment in
this low end equipment scale and i do see trouble out of them too,

but not
as much as Hunter, jade, and Lux with problems. This is my take on

the
thermostat game.

Now to the ideal of hvac people putting down Hunter, Jade, and Lux

for they
can be bought at any hardware stores all over and the hvac people

wanting to
sell you Honeywell, White Rogers, and Robert Shaw because you can't

buy them
and there is a better mark up on them. that is a bunch of bull for

any major
hardware stores [ Lowes, home depot, Southerlands, HobbyLobby, Ace,

and
Office Max ] all sell the honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers.

What I'm
tring to tell you is if your going to buy your own thermostat to put

on
yourself. Get the Honeywell, Robert Shaw, or White Rogers in the

place of
the Hunter, Jade, and Lux for just getting less trouble and i did

not say no
trouble. In my hvac business I see bad thermostats or malifuctioning
thermostats as the years go by and 80% of these will be hunter,

jade, or Lux
and 20% will be Honeywell, Robert shaw, or White Rogers. now one

note here
and that is i see the least trouble out of Honeywell than any other

brand.
Now your going to have to pay about $5.00 to $10.00 more for a

Honeywell but
i think it is worth it.

TURTLE






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"Art Begun" wrote in message
nk.net...
I bought a Robert Shaw at Ace and it crapped out after a few years.
Meanwhile a Lux and 3 Sears (not sure who makes the Sears) have lasted
much longer. All had a slight click. The RobertShaw was about $125.
The others were about half that.


This is Turtle.

first Art , Robert Shaw has nothing sold to the public worth $125.00 but
maybe Ace thought it should be worth that. You can buy anything Robert Shaw
will sell to the public from Ace or others for about $75.00 is the retail
price of the best Ace can get from Robert Shaw. Robert Shaw sells a 5 day/ 2
day and a 7 day programiable thermostat for retail outlets like ace but the
suggested retail on them is $75.00 + Tax. Now robert shaw does make some
High end models like these for about $100.00 to $200.00 but robert Shaw will
only sell to contractors and not the public. These require a little
knownledge to put them in for they can be burnt up if your not careful
there. they only sell the worm proof model to the public and the screwiable
up models to contractor. They don't like to eat thermostats that are burnt
up in the first day of service.

Secondly, If it clicks , It's not high end equipment , Period. Usely the
$50.00 or less models all click $50.00 to $99.00 models will click but you
got to listen to really hear it, and you hear no clicking at $100.00 or
above on the Honeywell, White Rogers, or Robert Shaw.

Third, if you want a good high end thermostat , get you a Honeywell and get
it over with.

Forth, Sears buys thermostat from the lowest bidder that year. It can be any
brand on the market.

Fifth, Here is a list of the Good High end thermostats in the way of quality
rating of mine.

Honeywell
White Rogers
..
..
Robert Shaw / Maple Chase -- their rating dropped when Maple chase bought
them out.
..
..
..
..
Lux / Lux Pro
Jade
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
Hunter

TURTLE




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