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mark charon November 18th 03 10:56 PM

toilet always clog
 
hello,
ever since we moved into this house, our toilet (low flow) seems to
clog every so often. this toilet was purchased probably for around 100
dollars 3-4 years ago. (ive' never tried using the pluger.)

sometimes i have to use a 6ft snake to clear it but most times
a 3 ft snake will clear it just fine.

when it does clog, usually we still can flush but the flush is slow
and weak.

we tried different brands of toilet paper but with same result.

my sister lives in a house built in 1990. she also has this problem.
in her case, she uses the pluger and then it works fine.

someone suggested that previous owner may have some toys that got
accidentally flushed down.
does this sound like it??

how do you solve this problem?

will replacing to a better toilet fix this problem??

thank you in advance...

Alan November 18th 03 11:23 PM

toilet always clog
 
On 18 Nov 2003 14:56:32 -0800, (mark charon) wrote:

hello,
ever since we moved into this house, our toilet (low flow) seems to
clog every so often. this toilet was purchased probably for around 100
dollars 3-4 years ago. (ive' never tried using the pluger.)


Some low flow toilets give only a minimal flush unless you hold the
handle down and tend to clog if there is much to flush away if you
only flick the handle. Some of the original low flow toilets did not
work as well as the ones available now.

sometimes i have to use a 6ft snake to clear it but most times
a 3 ft snake will clear it just fine.

when it does clog, usually we still can flush but the flush is slow
and weak.

we tried different brands of toilet paper but with same result.

my sister lives in a house built in 1990. she also has this problem.
in her case, she uses the pluger and then it works fine.

someone suggested that previous owner may have some toys that got
accidentally flushed down.
does this sound like it??

how do you solve this problem?

will replacing to a better toilet fix this problem??

thank you in advance...



mark Ransley November 18th 03 11:27 PM

toilet always clog
 
Consumer reports rated them, see where yours is rated, and go from
there.


jim November 18th 03 11:42 PM

toilet always clog
 
mark charon wrote:

hello,
ever since we moved into this house, our toilet (low flow) seems to
clog every so often. this toilet was purchased probably for around 100
dollars 3-4 years ago. (ive' never tried using the pluger.)

sometimes i have to use a 6ft snake to clear it but most times
a 3 ft snake will clear it just fine.

when it does clog, usually we still can flush but the flush is slow
and weak.

we tried different brands of toilet paper but with same result.

my sister lives in a house built in 1990. she also has this problem.
in her case, she uses the pluger and then it works fine.

someone suggested that previous owner may have some toys that got
accidentally flushed down.
does this sound like it??

how do you solve this problem?

will replacing to a better toilet fix this problem??

thank you in advance...

we have a house we built in 1972, had two of the old stile toilets,
never any problem.. well the tank on one broke and we had to replace it
with a 1.6 gal low flow toilet..... keep a plunger by it all the time...
tried different papers, no help.... last week it would not work even
with a plunger. seemed cloged pretty good... i tried to use an auger and
it did not work any better... could not get the auger to go down into
the toilet... i removed the whole thing and took it into the back yard
thinking i was gonna find a small bottle of whatever the kids have
sitting on one of those multi shelves over the toilet...... found out it
was two Q-tips with about a 6 in. piece of duct tape behind it and the
rest was paper packed all the way to the bottom hole... it was so packed
i could not get this 6 ft. auger down there to move anything(just
testing it to see if it would work)... i had to use some long needle
nose pliers and a garden hose..... from experience if this same thing
was in the older full flow toilet it would never had happened......
also i found out after one week of the new toilet (american standard
cadet) that there is a small float that goes onto a chain that pulls up
the flapper valve, you have to move the float all the way down so when
you flush the float will hold the flapper valve open long enough to let
more water go into the bowl from the tank to give you a better flush..
hope this helps.

Joseph Meehan November 19th 03 12:23 AM

toilet always clog
 
To add to Alan's comments, not all of today's are as good as others.
Also there may be something stuck somewhere that is causing the problem.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


"Alan" wrote in message
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On 18 Nov 2003 14:56:32 -0800, (mark charon) wrote:




Bob November 19th 03 12:44 AM

toilet always clog
 

"mark charon" wrote in message
om...
hello,
ever since we moved into this house, our toilet (low flow)

seems to
clog every so often.

how do you solve this problem?


I have an old, large volume toilet with the same problem. I have
found that after a big "dump", flushing the toilet before using
the T.P. prevents the problem.

Bob



Tony Hwang November 19th 03 12:55 AM

toilet always clog
 


Bob wrote:

"mark charon" wrote in message
om...

hello,
ever since we moved into this house, our toilet (low flow)


seems to

clog every so often.

how do you solve this problem?



I have an old, large volume toilet with the same problem. I have
found that after a big "dump", flushing the toilet before using
the T.P. prevents the problem.

Bob

Hi,
Vent stack in good shape?
Tony



Art Begun November 19th 03 01:21 AM

toilet always clog
 
Get yourself a Gerber or Kohler pressure flush toilet with a Sloan
valve and you will not have any more toilet problems. About $200.



Me November 19th 03 02:14 AM

toilet always clog
 
isn't a pressure flush toilet REALLY noisy?

"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Get yourself a Gerber or Kohler pressure flush toilet with a Sloan
valve and you will not have any more toilet problems. About $200.





Paul November 19th 03 03:47 AM

toilet always clog
 
Buy a toilet with either a vacuum flush or some other pressure assisted
device, only way to flush my 12 inch ****s.

-Paul


"mark charon" wrote in message
om...
hello,
ever since we moved into this house, our toilet (low flow) seems to
clog every so often. this toilet was purchased probably for around 100
dollars 3-4 years ago. (ive' never tried using the pluger.)

sometimes i have to use a 6ft snake to clear it but most times
a 3 ft snake will clear it just fine.

when it does clog, usually we still can flush but the flush is slow
and weak.

we tried different brands of toilet paper but with same result.

my sister lives in a house built in 1990. she also has this problem.
in her case, she uses the pluger and then it works fine.

someone suggested that previous owner may have some toys that got
accidentally flushed down.
does this sound like it??

how do you solve this problem?

will replacing to a better toilet fix this problem??

thank you in advance...




Art Begun November 19th 03 04:10 AM

toilet always clog
 
Just got 2 Gerbers for my parents townhome and they are quiet. My 7
year old Kohlers are noisy. They both use the same Sloan valve.
Don't know if Sloan found a way to make the pressure valve quiet or if
Gerber figured out how to make the toilet quiet using the valve.

If buying now I would probably get the Gerber since I know how their
latest models work. Kohler may have quieted theirs down but I would
have to see the new one work before buying it.

They both flush great though.



"Me" wrote in message
news:5mAub.240063$HS4.2077466@attbi_s01...
isn't a pressure flush toilet REALLY noisy?

"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Get yourself a Gerber or Kohler pressure flush toilet with a Sloan
valve and you will not have any more toilet problems. About $200.







Ray November 19th 03 11:05 AM

toilet always clog
 
.... you could try leaving a knife or axe near the toilet to hack the logs
into something more digestable by your toilet.

"mark charon" wrote in message
om...
hello,
ever since we moved into this house, our toilet (low flow) seems to
clog every so often. this toilet was purchased probably for around 100
dollars 3-4 years ago. (ive' never tried using the pluger.)

sometimes i have to use a 6ft snake to clear it but most times
a 3 ft snake will clear it just fine.

when it does clog, usually we still can flush but the flush is slow
and weak.

we tried different brands of toilet paper but with same result.

my sister lives in a house built in 1990. she also has this problem.
in her case, she uses the pluger and then it works fine.

someone suggested that previous owner may have some toys that got
accidentally flushed down.
does this sound like it??

how do you solve this problem?

will replacing to a better toilet fix this problem??

thank you in advance...




MLD November 19th 03 08:41 PM

toilet always clog
 
Just got a couple of new Kohler toilets. They are very quiet and seem to do
the *flush* job as per design intent. Time will tell.
MLD
"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Just got 2 Gerbers for my parents townhome and they are quiet. My 7
year old Kohlers are noisy. They both use the same Sloan valve.
Don't know if Sloan found a way to make the pressure valve quiet or if
Gerber figured out how to make the toilet quiet using the valve.

If buying now I would probably get the Gerber since I know how their
latest models work. Kohler may have quieted theirs down but I would
have to see the new one work before buying it.

They both flush great though.



"Me" wrote in message
news:5mAub.240063$HS4.2077466@attbi_s01...
isn't a pressure flush toilet REALLY noisy?

"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Get yourself a Gerber or Kohler pressure flush toilet with a Sloan
valve and you will not have any more toilet problems. About $200.









Art Begun November 20th 03 11:27 PM

toilet always clog
 
Pressure or gravity?



"MLD" wrote in message
...
Just got a couple of new Kohler toilets. They are very quiet and

seem to do
the *flush* job as per design intent. Time will tell.
MLD
"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Just got 2 Gerbers for my parents townhome and they are quiet. My

7
year old Kohlers are noisy. They both use the same Sloan valve.
Don't know if Sloan found a way to make the pressure valve quiet

or if
Gerber figured out how to make the toilet quiet using the valve.

If buying now I would probably get the Gerber since I know how

their
latest models work. Kohler may have quieted theirs down but I

would
have to see the new one work before buying it.

They both flush great though.



"Me" wrote in message
news:5mAub.240063$HS4.2077466@attbi_s01...
isn't a pressure flush toilet REALLY noisy?

"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Get yourself a Gerber or Kohler pressure flush toilet with a

Sloan
valve and you will not have any more toilet problems. About

$200.











MLD November 21st 03 11:48 PM

toilet always clog
 
Gravity

"Art Begun" wrote in message
link.net...
Pressure or gravity?



"MLD" wrote in message
...
Just got a couple of new Kohler toilets. They are very quiet and

seem to do
the *flush* job as per design intent. Time will tell.
MLD
"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Just got 2 Gerbers for my parents townhome and they are quiet. My

7
year old Kohlers are noisy. They both use the same Sloan valve.
Don't know if Sloan found a way to make the pressure valve quiet

or if
Gerber figured out how to make the toilet quiet using the valve.

If buying now I would probably get the Gerber since I know how

their
latest models work. Kohler may have quieted theirs down but I

would
have to see the new one work before buying it.

They both flush great though.



"Me" wrote in message
news:5mAub.240063$HS4.2077466@attbi_s01...
isn't a pressure flush toilet REALLY noisy?

"Art Begun" wrote in message
ink.net...
Get yourself a Gerber or Kohler pressure flush toilet with a

Sloan
valve and you will not have any more toilet problems. About

$200.














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