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1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
I have a Lennox Central Air Unit from 1989 that began to give me
problems last week. First last week the copper line on the furnace/central air unit stated to freeze. The unit subsequently shut down. When I tried to re-start the Central Air at the thermostat the blower fan would not turn on. After a period of time (a few hours) I was able to turn the AC back on. I don't know why the Central Air unit wouldn't turn back on? Possible Freeze Stat? I suspected the refrigerant charge was low and had a tech install 5lbs of R-22 and check for leaks. No leaks were found. Now I have the opposite problem. I no longer have a freezing problem now the copper line, furnace and basement ducting is dripping from condensation. Last night the Central Air Unit began to make a loud grinding noise. I couldn't tell if the blower fan was making the noise. Like before the unit would not come back on until a few hours later. Flood-back? The condensate pump is coming on but I suspect come kind of flow problem from the drain pipe? Maybe the unit was overcharged? Any suggestions? Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
Joe Esposito wrote:
I have a Lennox Central Air Unit from 1989 that began to give me problems last week. /snip/ I suspected the refrigerant charge was low and had a tech install 5lbs of R-22 and check for leaks. No leaks were found. Now I have the opposite problem. I no longer have a freezing problem now the copper line, furnace and basement ducting is dripping from condensation. Last night the Central Air Unit began to make a loud grinding noise. I couldn't tell if the blower fan was making the noise. Like before the unit would not come back on until a few hours later. Flood-back? The condensate pump is coming on but I suspect come kind of flow problem from the drain pipe? Maybe the unit was overcharged? Any suggestions? Um, did you tell the tech to just put in more refrigerant, or did he determine that this was the problem? Assuming it was the latter, I'd call the tech back and have them fix it the way they should have the first time. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 20:42:18 -0700, "CBHvac"
wrote: We already nailed him on that in alt.hvac... NO tech will start adding refrigerant unless its low....and thats sometimes more complicated than slapping a manifold on and pumping.. Altho....5lbs is more than some of todays systems hold...even some old 80 model stuff.. Jeez guys thanks for the 5th degree! For the record I did have a local HVAC company check and service the AC last friday. I took them a day to get someone out so I look over the unit to get an idea what is wrong. During the day I am an engineer for an industrial refrigeration company. Quite a bit different with 500 HP Screw Compressors, NH3, and multiple condenser units. No I am not certified to test/install refrigerant so I don't mess with it. I don't post here and pretend to know what I am doing either! Tomorrow morning they will send another Tech out so we will see what they think the problem is now. I won't let them tell me that the condensation is due to the recent high humidity. Sure I questioned how a closed system can somehow lose refrigerant. Friday they Tech did tell me no leaks were present and the only thing missing was a 1/4" access cap. While the company I had service my AC is reputable I am beginning to think otherwise. Just trying to get some feedback for everyone here because I question the work that was done last week. Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
I'm curious what all else techie number one checked before hooking up the
bottle of juice? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.org .. .. "Joe Esposito" wrote in message ... While the company I had service my AC is reputable I am beginning to think otherwise. Just trying to get some feedback for everyone here because I question the work that was done last week. Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
We already nailed him on that in alt.hvac...
NO tech will start adding refrigerant unless its low....and thats sometimes more complicated than slapping a manifold on and pumping.. Altho....5lbs is more than some of todays systems hold...even some old 80 model stuff.. "Travis Jordan" wrote in message m... Joe Esposito wrote: I have a Lennox Central Air Unit from 1989 that began to give me problems last week. /snip/ I suspected the refrigerant charge was low and had a tech install 5lbs of R-22 and check for leaks. No leaks were found. Now I have the opposite problem. I no longer have a freezing problem now the copper line, furnace and basement ducting is dripping from condensation. Last night the Central Air Unit began to make a loud grinding noise. I couldn't tell if the blower fan was making the noise. Like before the unit would not come back on until a few hours later. Flood-back? The condensate pump is coming on but I suspect come kind of flow problem from the drain pipe? Maybe the unit was overcharged? Any suggestions? Um, did you tell the tech to just put in more refrigerant, or did he determine that this was the problem? Assuming it was the latter, I'd call the tech back and have them fix it the way they should have the first time. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:33:45 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: I'm curious what all else techie number one checked before hooking up the bottle of juice? I just stopped over my lunch break to ask him a few questions for maybe 15 minutes out of the 2.5 hours that I was billed. Didn't want my wife to say "OK" to anything. We will see what "Tech #2" from the same company says tomorrow. Regardless, I probably will be looking for a new HVAC contractor.... Thanks, Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
Hey Joe, please keep us posted. I'm kinda curious. I've got a few ideas, but
I'm not there to check it all out, so it's guessing at the moment. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.org .. .. "Joe Esposito" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:33:45 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I'm curious what all else techie number one checked before hooking up the bottle of juice? I just stopped over my lunch break to ask him a few questions for maybe 15 minutes out of the 2.5 hours that I was billed. Didn't want my wife to say "OK" to anything. We will see what "Tech #2" from the same company says tomorrow. Regardless, I probably will be looking for a new HVAC contractor.... Thanks, Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
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1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
Calling people names isn't a good way to establish yourself as a man of
wisdom and strength. Actually, quite the oposite, name calling is, in many circles, a sign of weakness. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.org .. .. "News Hound" wrote in message ... Stormin Mormon wrote: I'm not there to check it all out, so it's guessing at the moment. You shouldn't comment on anything. You're 'guessing' at everything. You will only make things worse. You're a clueless newbie installer. Your advice is bunk, like your religion. -- Mormonism exposed: http://www.irr.org/mit/ http://nowscape.com/mormon/zindler1.htm http://www.answeringlds.org/ http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism.html http://www.watchman.org/lds/index.htm http://nowscape.com/mormons1.htm Joseph Smith exposed: http://www.truth-in-love.org/josephsmith.htm |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
Royal Flush wrote:
In article , says... Java Man (Espressopithecus) wrote: In article , says... Stormin Mormon wrote: I'm not there to check it all out, so it's guessing at the moment. You shouldn't comment on anything. You're 'guessing' at everything. You will only make things worse. You're a clueless newbie installer. Your advice is bunk, like your religion. Jeez, you've really got a problem. What's the matter--did a Mormon knock on your door and scare you when you were young? ;-) Rick MYOFB Ooh, struck a nerve I see! Was it only a fright, or was it worse? By the way, in case you didn't know, USENET is public. Your post is not only YFB. It's EVERYONE'S FB. If you want privacy, take it to email. Toto don't think too highly of yourself. all I said was MYOFB. big deal. kinda like saying, stick yourusenet faq's up your ass sideways toto. big deal eh toto.. now quit trying to hump my leg toto.. -- jehovah's witnesses exposed. http://www.bible.ca/jw.htm Mormonism exposed: http://www.irr.org/mit/ http://nowscape.com/mormon/zindler1.htm http://www.answeringlds.org/ http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism.html http://www.watchman.org/lds/index.htm http://nowscape.com/mormons1.htm Joseph Smith exposed: http://www.truth-in-love.org/josephsmith.htm |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown?
And dear sir, poor abused one...
Giving wrong advice out and calling yourself a pro is a sure way to be called stupid. "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Calling people names isn't a good way to establish yourself as a man of wisdom and strength. Actually, quite the oposite, name calling is, in many circles, a sign of weakness. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.org . . "News Hound" wrote in message ... Stormin Mormon wrote: I'm not there to check it all out, so it's guessing at the moment. You shouldn't comment on anything. You're 'guessing' at everything. You will only make things worse. You're a clueless newbie installer. Your advice is bunk, like your religion. -- Mormonism exposed: http://www.irr.org/mit/ http://nowscape.com/mormon/zindler1.htm http://www.answeringlds.org/ http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism.html http://www.watchman.org/lds/index.htm http://nowscape.com/mormons1.htm Joseph Smith exposed: http://www.truth-in-love.org/josephsmith.htm |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown? (Dead Blower Motor)
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 18:52:03 -0400, Joe Esposito
wrote: Well the Blower Fan is likely dead now. The blower shut off and smells smoked. Now do I replace the blower motor on a 30 year old Moncreif gas forced air furnace or replace the who darn unit? Joe E. It just depends on how much money you have and how stupid you are or are not as to whether you replace the "who darn" unit. Bubba On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 16:19:17 -0400, Joe Esposito wrote: So it is possible he is right. The Blower Fan works for a period of time (still working after being on several hours today) and maybe it overheats and begins to start making the noise. Just speculation? Don't know where to go from here... Thanks, Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown? (Dead Blower Motor)
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 23:35:11 GMT, Bubba
wrote: It just depends on how much money you have and how stupid you are or are not as to whether you replace the "who darn" unit. Bubba Sorry for the grammatical error "Bubba". Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown? (Dead Blower Motor)
Dear Joe,
Well, a lot of that answer depends on money. A 30 year old unit is likely running a LOT less efficient than anything good made today. If you can afford a new furnace, the energy savings will help pay for the unit. If things are really tough now, a new blower will get you by until something else breaks. I'd suggest replace, if you possibly can make it happen some how. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.org .. .. "Joe Esposito" wrote in message ... Well the Blower Fan is likely dead now. The blower shut off and smells smoked. Now do I replace the blower motor on a 30 year old Moncreif gas forced air furnace or replace the who darn unit? Joe E. |
1989 Lennox Central Air Water Condensation and Shutdown? (Dead Blower Motor)
Wheel puller, heat, or penetrating oil. But not all at the same time!
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.org .. .. "Joe Esposito" wrote in message ... We were planning to replace the Moncreif tank in September. Until I get some estimates and get the work scheduled I will replace the Motor and Capacitor ($70 from Grainger). Now how do I get the shaft out of the squirrel cage? I took the shaft screw out but after being on for years its not coming out of the cage. Joe E. |
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