Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: €œComputing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the energy required for computing will exceed the estimated worlds energy production.€�

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss how electronic components called transistors €“ which power computer circuits €“ can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably wont get any tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

€œDriverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because some people believe thats when artificial intelligence will become as clever as us humans €“ a moment known as the singularity.

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because our computers are taking up too much energy.

Whats the best way to make sure a malign computer doesnt wipe us all out?
Make sure its not plugged in.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:26:44 -0400, burfordTjustice
wrote:

Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: €œComputing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the energy required for computing will exceed the estimated worlds energy production.€�

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss how electronic components called transistors €“ which power computer circuits €“ can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably wont get any tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

€œDriverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because some people believe thats when artificial intelligence will become as clever as us humans €“ a moment known as the singularity.

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because our computers are taking up too much energy.

Whats the best way to make sure a malign computer doesnt wipe us all out?
Make sure its not plugged in.


I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.
Your smart phone that can take a whole day's worth of charge from a 5v
1 amp USB port in less than an hour, has the power of a mainframe that
had a 208v 100a plug on it.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:38:05 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:26:44 -0400, burfordTjustice
wrote:

Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: “Computing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the energy required for computing will exceed the estimated world’s energy production.”

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss how electronic components called transistors – which power computer circuits – can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably won’t get any tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

“Driverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because some people believe that’s when artificial intelligence will become as clever as us humans – a moment known as the singularity.

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because our computers are taking up too much energy.

What’s the best way to make sure a malign computer doesn’t wipe us all out?
Make sure it’s not plugged in.


I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.
Your smart phone that can take a whole day's worth of charge from a 5v
1 amp USB port in less than an hour, has the power of a mainframe that
had a 208v 100a plug on it.
Anything from Buford T Justice is totally unadulterated BS. You can
bet on it.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 17:17:17 -0400
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:38:05 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:26:44 -0400, burfordTjustice
wrote:

Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can
generate by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing
whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to
keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry
Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy
society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: €œComputing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the
energy required for computing will exceed the estimated worlds
energy production.€�

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss
how electronic components called transistors €“ which power computer
circuits €“ can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably wont get any
tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and
faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make
computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

€œDriverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless
other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the
Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because
some people believe thats when artificial intelligence will become
as clever as us humans €“ a moment known as the singularity.

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because
our computers are taking up too much energy.

Whats the best way to make sure a malign computer doesnt wipe us
all out?
Make sure its not plugged in.


I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.
Your smart phone that can take a whole day's worth of charge from a
5v 1 amp USB port in less than an hour, has the power of a mainframe
that had a 208v 100a plug on it.
Anything from Buford T Justice is totally unadulterated BS. You can
bet on it.

Aww you poor thing, would it help you if we
did more pictures, perhaps just lines you could color?

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 3:38:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:26:44 -0400, burfordTjustice
wrote:

Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: €œComputing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the energy required for computing will exceed the estimated worlds energy production.€�

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss how electronic components called transistors €“ which power computer circuits €“ can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably wont get any tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

€œDriverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because some people believe thats when artificial intelligence will become as clever as us humans €“ a moment known as the singularity.

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because our computers are taking up too much energy.

Whats the best way to make sure a malign computer doesnt wipe us all out?
Make sure its not plugged in.


I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.
Your smart phone that can take a whole day's worth of charge from a 5v
1 amp USB port in less than an hour, has the power of a mainframe that
had a 208v 100a plug on it.

I used to build DC power supplies that used shunt regulators. Now we have switching power supplies that waste a lot less power. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Shunt Monster

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 17:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 3:38:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:26:44 -0400, burfordTjustice
wrote:

Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: €œComputing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the energy required for computing will exceed the estimated worlds energy production.€�

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss how electronic components called transistors €“ which power computer circuits €“ can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably wont get any tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

€œDriverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because some people believe thats when artificial intelligence will become as clever as us humans €“ a moment known as the singularity.

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because our computers are taking up too much energy.

Whats the best way to make sure a malign computer doesnt wipe us all out?
Make sure its not plugged in.


I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.
Your smart phone that can take a whole day's worth of charge from a 5v
1 amp USB port in less than an hour, has the power of a mainframe that
had a 208v 100a plug on it.

I used to build DC power supplies that used shunt regulators. Now we have switching power supplies that waste a lot less power. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Shunt Monster

Those 100 amp mainframes used switchers. Huge ones obviously. IBM
stopped using shunt regulators, and pass regulators by the mid 60s. We
did have at least one machine (3705 communication controller) that
used a strange SCR supply that took the 208vac and made the DC
voltages directly by using PWM and a buttload of big capacitors.
They were scary noisy on the power line side tho.

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:15:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 17:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 3:38:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:26:44 -0400, burfordTjustice
wrote:

Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: €œComputing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the energy required for computing will exceed the estimated worlds energy production.€�

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss how electronic components called transistors €“ which power computer circuits €“ can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably wont get any tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

€œDriverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because some people believe thats when artificial intelligence will become as clever as us humans €“ a moment known as the singularity.

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because our computers are taking up too much energy.

Whats the best way to make sure a malign computer doesnt wipe us all out?
Make sure its not plugged in.


I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.
Your smart phone that can take a whole day's worth of charge from a 5v
1 amp USB port in less than an hour, has the power of a mainframe that
had a 208v 100a plug on it.

I used to build DC power supplies that used shunt regulators. Now we have switching power supplies that waste a lot less power. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Shunt Monster

Those 100 amp mainframes used switchers. Huge ones obviously. IBM
stopped using shunt regulators, and pass regulators by the mid 60s. We
did have at least one machine (3705 communication controller) that
used a strange SCR supply that took the 208vac and made the DC
voltages directly by using PWM and a buttload of big capacitors.
They were scary noisy on the power line side tho.

The computers I played with when I was young were the Univac 1100 series and the IBM 360/50 RAX systems back in 1965-1966 at the university. The university was replacing the Univac with the IBM during that time and I had a lot of fun learning about computers and programming. I remember having boxes of punch cards as a way of carrying around a program I had written. My country sent astronauts to the Moon and back with computers like that. I've never lost my love of science, technology and learning new things. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Tech Monster

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 22:07:07 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:15:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Those 100 amp mainframes used switchers. Huge ones obviously. IBM
stopped using shunt regulators, and pass regulators by the mid 60s. We
did have at least one machine (3705 communication controller) that
used a strange SCR supply that took the 208vac and made the DC
voltages directly by using PWM and a buttload of big capacitors.
They were scary noisy on the power line side tho.

The computers I played with when I was young were the Univac 1100 series and the IBM 360/50 RAX systems back in 1965-1966 at the university.

The mod 50 used a 208 3p 60 amp plug. That was a switcher PS machine
too. I had a couple in my territory

The university was replacing the Univac with the IBM during that time and I had a lot of fun learning about computers and programming. I remember having boxes of punch cards as a way of carrying around a program I had written. My country sent astronauts to the Moon and back with computers like that. I've never lost my love of science, technology and learning new things. ^_^

Yup, They actually assembled a special s/360 just for NASA that was a
multiprocessor M/95.
I saw a lot of Univac 1108s that the Navy used but I never messed with
them.

Responding to an article by Burfurd****head, writes:




I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.

Did you read the industry report instead of the idiots spam post?

Read it, then comment.


http://www.semiconductors.org/main/2... uctors_itrs/

wrote in message

I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.

Agree. Typical alarmist BS. Remember the predictions a few decades ago
that we would run out of oil by now? Peak Oil? More BS.

--
Bobby G.

"Robert Green" writes:
wrote in message

I call bull**** on this. You just have to look what happened in the
last 25 years. Computing power skyrocketed and the electrical power
used plummeted.

Agree. Typical alarmist BS. Remember the predictions a few decades ago
that we would run out of oil by now? Peak Oil? More BS.

http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/...l-perspective/

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:26:44 -0400, burfordTjustice wrote:

Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

But the current digital big bang could end with a disappointing whimper because humanity may be unable to produce enough power to keep computers running, experts have warned.

A leading technical organised called the Semiconductor Industry Association has produced a study which said that computer-crazy society will be running short of electricity by 2040

It wrote: “Computing will not be sustainable by 2040, when the energy required for computing will exceed the estimated world’s energy production.”

The Semiconductor Industry Association meets every year to discuss how electronic components called transistors – which power computer circuits – can be made ever smaller.

Now the organisation is conceding that they probably won’t get any tinier, heralding the end of an era where computers got faster and faster as transistors shrunk to every tinier sizes.

This means tech firms will have to think of new ways to make computers powerful enough to keep up with demands.

“Driverless cars and personalised medicine along with countless other applications of intelligent systems are on the horizon, the Semiconductor Industry Association added.

The year 2040 carries a huge resonance in the tech world, because some people believe that’s when artificial intelligence will become as clever as us humans – a moment known as the singularity.

Hell, right now my refrigerator is smarter than half the politicians in D.C.
Rep. Hank Johnson, D- Ga. is already dumber than a box of rocks.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-termites.html

This is unlikely to happen if we keep suffering power cuts because our computers are taking up too much energy.

What’s the best way to make sure a malign computer doesn’t wipe us all out?
Make sure it’s not plugged in.

On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:27:39 -0400
Ollie wrote:

On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can
generate by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

Is your home and auto completely powered by solar now?

burfordTjustice brought next idea :
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:27:39 -0400
Ollie wrote:

On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can
generate by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

Is your home and auto completely powered by solar now?

Yes, and they always have been.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:22:56 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

burfordTjustice brought next idea :
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:27:39 -0400
Ollie wrote:

On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can
generate by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

Is your home and auto completely powered by solar now?

Yes, and they always have been.

Go to bed early huh?

writes:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:22:56 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

burfordTjustice brought next idea :
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:27:39 -0400
Ollie wrote:

On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can
generate by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

Is your home and auto completely powered by solar now?

Yes, and they always have been.

Go to bed early huh?

Electricity can be stored via several mechanisms such as
batteries, flywheels or pumped storage to cover times when direct solar
is insufficient. But I'm sure you're aware of that, so why
the snarky reply?

It was not unusual 60 years ago for one to rise with the
sun and set with the sun (perhaps augmented by candles
or oil lamps).

On 07/26/2016 06:09 AM, burfordTjustice wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:27:39 -0400
Ollie wrote:

On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can
generate by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

Is your home and auto completely powered by solar now?


What if everyone had solar panels to power their air conditioning/heat pump units. That would take a huge load off the grid, right?

Why does a solution have to be all or nothing?

On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 05:20:43 -0400, Al Gore
wrote:



What if everyone had solar panels to power their air conditioning/heat pump units. That would take a huge load off the grid, right?

Why does a solution have to be all or nothing?

It helps on the A/C part but it doesn't do much for the heat part
since you use more heat at night.

Ollie writes:
On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

Three words: Do the Math:

http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/...-scale-energy/

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:11:20 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Ollie writes:
On 07/25/2016 03:26 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
Computers will use more electricity than the entire world can generate
by 2040, tech experts claim

Nightmare scenario means humanity will be simply unable to power the
systems which keep us alive

One word: SOLAR POWER

Three words: Do the Math:

http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/...-scale-energy/

The bottom line of all of this, energy, global warming, water shortage
and just about every other projected calamity, is population.
There are just too damned many people on the planet and they all want
a home with inside plumbing, electricity, heat and a car parked in the
driveway.
One data point to ponder, global CO2 concentration tracks population
as closely as any other metric for the last 8000 years. Farming is as
big a contributor as SUVs.