On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:01:08 -0500
Char Jackson wrote:


Yes, Windows 10 subscriptions are coming, at least for enterprise
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3094785/windows/yes-windows-10-subscriptions-are-coming-at-least-for-enterprise.html

No word yet on whether this will trickle over to the consumer space.

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Looks like the starting cost will be about $7.00 per seat per month.
Apologies if this has already been widely posted. I didn't see it so I
thought I'd share.

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 3:09:45 PM UTC-5, burfordTjustice wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:01:08 -0500
Char Jackson wrote:


Yes, Windows 10 subscriptions are coming, at least for enterprise
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3094785/windows/yes-windows-10-subscriptions-are-coming-at-least-for-enterprise.html

No word yet on whether this will trickle over to the consumer space.

***

Looks like the starting cost will be about $7.00 per seat per month.
Apologies if this has already been widely posted. I didn't see it so I
thought I'd share.

Most likely only people that will be paying a monthly fee
MIGHT be businesses.

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

**Most likely** only people that will be paying a monthly fee
***MIGHT*** be businesses.

You are not very sure of yourself are you?

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:03:40 -0400, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

**Most likely** only people that will be paying a monthly fee
***MIGHT*** be businesses.

You are not very sure of yourself are you?

W/10 is going to make M$ money by selling apps. The OS is free but to
do anything useful you are going to have to buy an app.

On 07/16/2016 12:11 PM, wrote:

**Most likely** only people that will be paying a monthly fee
***MIGHT*** be businesses.

You are not very sure of yourself are you?

W/10 is going to make M$ money by selling apps. The OS is free but to
do anything useful you are going to have to buy an app.

I have had Windows 10 Pro on two machines for almost a year (upgraded
from Windows 7 Pro) and have not bought any "apps": all my old programs,
whether purchased or free, work just fine on W10.

Perce

In article ,
says...



W/10 is going to make M$ money by selling apps. The OS is free but to
do anything useful you are going to have to buy an app.

I don't look at the operating system to do anything for me. I only use
it to open up the other programs. The only one I have by Microsoft is
the Office program. Then they broke part of that with the mail reader
with Win 10.

Tried just to copy some files off one XP computer to the Win 10
computer by using a USB drive. Computer told me I did not have the
rights to do that, so had to search the web to find out how to
eliminate that problem. Guess M$ wants everything on the cloud, but I
am not putting anything there by choice. Hard telling what win 10 is
doing behind my back.

I have found that Win 10 does not run some of my older programs by other
sources that I use a lot of.

Win XP has done all that I have needed in the past, just open other
programs. I did buy 2 used computers off ebay that had win 7 pro on
just to try out the free win 10 with. Just ran the win 7 long enough
to see if the comuters would work. One reason that I did go to win 10
is that Turbo Tax says they will not support XP any more. Come to
thimnk of it, no more than I do with the computes I upgraded from win 98
to XP when the tax program would not run.

I don't play games or really need a very powerful computer for what I
do. I do have one I use with my ham radio for several different things
and XP does all that well.

I new to comuters as the first one was a TRS-80 model 3. Not counting
an 8080 processor board and other pieces of computer that I put together
and wrote the code for to convert the "computer" ASCII to Baudot code
for an old teletype machine.




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On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 7:03:43 AM UTC-5, burfordTjustice wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

**Most likely** only people that will be paying a monthly fee
***MIGHT*** be businesses.

You are not very sure of yourself are you?


I'm sure enough to know they will not be charging a monthly fee
except to businesses, MAYBE.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 12:56:06 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 07/16/2016 12:11 PM, wrote:

**Most likely** only people that will be paying a monthly fee
***MIGHT*** be businesses.

You are not very sure of yourself are you?

W/10 is going to make M$ money by selling apps. The OS is free but to
do anything useful you are going to have to buy an app.

I have had Windows 10 Pro on two machines for almost a year (upgraded
from Windows 7 Pro) and have not bought any "apps": all my old programs,
whether purchased or free, work just fine on W10.

Perce


It may just be affecting business users but I know my wife is griping
about it and I imagine that will trickle down to the users eventually.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 14:03:46 -0400, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article ,
says...



W/10 is going to make M$ money by selling apps. The OS is free but to
do anything useful you are going to have to buy an app.

I don't look at the operating system to do anything for me. I only use
it to open up the other programs. The only one I have by Microsoft is
the Office program. Then they broke part of that with the mail reader
with Win 10.

Tried just to copy some files off one XP computer to the Win 10
computer by using a USB drive. Computer told me I did not have the
rights to do that, so had to search the web to find out how to
eliminate that problem. Guess M$ wants everything on the cloud, but I
am not putting anything there by choice. Hard telling what win 10 is
doing behind my back.

I have found that Win 10 does not run some of my older programs by other
sources that I use a lot of.

Win XP has done all that I have needed in the past, just open other
programs. I did buy 2 used computers off ebay that had win 7 pro on
just to try out the free win 10 with. Just ran the win 7 long enough
to see if the comuters would work. One reason that I did go to win 10
is that Turbo Tax says they will not support XP any more. Come to
thimnk of it, no more than I do with the computes I upgraded from win 98
to XP when the tax program would not run.

I don't play games or really need a very powerful computer for what I
do. I do have one I use with my ham radio for several different things
and XP does all that well.

I new to comuters as the first one was a TRS-80 model 3. Not counting
an 8080 processor board and other pieces of computer that I put together
and wrote the code for to convert the "computer" ASCII to Baudot code
for an old teletype machine.
I still have a W/98 machine running and I will be running XP as long
as it still does the job for me. If I learn another OS, it will be
Linux based. I have been climbing this learning curve since the 1401
and I am getting tired of climbing.

In article ,
says...


I still have a W/98 machine running and I will be running XP as long
as it still does the job for me. If I learn another OS, it will be
Linux based. I have been climbing this learning curve since the 1401
and I am getting tired of climbing.

I am too.. I actually have a couple of old laptops that have dos 6.x
and win 3.11 on them. I have to have them to program some old devices.
Any computer much fster than 300 or 400 MHz and the programs time out
while waiting on the devices. The programmers wrote some timming loops
that check the rs232 port so many times and if no data they time out.
Some just do not have any programs that will run in anything but dos.
Even the DOS Box program will not let them run. Then there is the MCPCI
card problem. No slots for them on the later computers.
Now the rs232 ports are not used and sometimes the USB to rs232
converters will not work correctly.

The computer people just don't understand that some business have very
old equipmnet. The plant I worked in was built in 1965 and would you
believe it, they bought some equipment that was made in 1920 a few years
ago for a special project.




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ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 7:03:43 AM UTC-5,
burfordTjustice wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

**Most likely** only people that will be paying a
monthly fee
***MIGHT*** be businesses.

You are not very sure of yourself are you?


I'm sure enough to know they will not be charging a
monthly fee
except to businesses, MAYBE.

And you don't think those businesses will pass the extra
cost on to the consumers?
Really?

On Sunday, July 17, 2016 at 12:48:24 AM UTC-5, ChairMan wrote:

ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 7:03:43 AM UTC-5,
burfordTjustice wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

**Most likely** only people that will be paying a
monthly fee
***MIGHT*** be businesses.

You are not very sure of yourself are you?


I'm sure enough to know they will not be charging a
monthly fee
except to businesses, MAYBE.

And you don't think those businesses will pass the extra
cost on to the consumers?
Really?


Did I say they WOULD or WOULDN'T be passing along the extra
cost to customers? I never mentioned what companies would
or would not do if such a fee was imposed upon them from
Microsoft.

Show me where I stated that.