SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

Tony's dishwasher topic led me to rant about my Samsung clothes dryer
which I purchased in 2012. Within 6 months of ownership, it wasn't
heating very well. My one year warranty covered a tech replacing the
circuit board. Within that same year, it would rattle when operating.
The next tech replaced rollers, belt and other misc parts. The year
warranty has passed and it rattles again when in use. I had to pull
teeth to get them to cover the warranty because it began during the
warranty and was never repaired properly. They covered it and then,
another month or so, it would rattle again. In addition, it was having
problems heating again and the past few months it requires several
cycles to dry a small load. After numerous attempts of calling Samsung,
they will only tell me warranty is over and I will have to pay for
service. Of course, they have a problem understanding it all began
during the warranty and was never fixed properly. Needless to say, I
told them to kiss my ass.

I had, as I'm sure most of us had, dryers which lasted 20+ years which
was still working but I got rid of to buy this new Samsung and yet, this
POS can't last 4 years. I told them I will start a website called
Samsungsucks.com and invite all to express their stories about the
****ty Samsung customer service and product.

I will never buy another Samsung product.

SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 4:58:16 PM UTC-6, SBH wrote:

I will never buy another Samsung product.

I would buy their TV's though...I've bought them for work and for relatives without issues.

SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

Meanie wrote:
Tony's dishwasher topic led me to rant about my Samsung clothes dryer
which I purchased in 2012. Within 6 months of ownership, it wasn't
heating very well. My one year warranty covered a tech replacing the
circuit board. Within that same year, it would rattle when operating.
The next tech replaced rollers, belt and other misc parts. The year
warranty has passed and it rattles again when in use. I had to pull
teeth to get them to cover the warranty because it began during the
warranty and was never repaired properly. They covered it and then,
another month or so, it would rattle again. In addition, it was having
problems heating again and the past few months it requires several
cycles to dry a small load. After numerous attempts of calling
Samsung, they will only tell me warranty is over and I will have to
pay for service. Of course, they have a problem understanding it all
began during the warranty and was never fixed properly. Needless to
say, I told them to kiss my ass.

I had, as I'm sure most of us had, dryers which lasted 20+ years which
was still working but I got rid of to buy this new Samsung and yet,
this POS can't last 4 years. I told them I will start a website called
Samsungsucks.com and invite all to express their stories about the
****ty Samsung customer service and product.

I will never buy another Samsung product.

there are some things they do well just like Bosch and things they should
just leave alone.
Samsung makes great phones and TVs, Bosch makes GREAT tools.....the rest of
both, not so much

SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

Meanie
Tony's dishwasher topic led me to rant about my Samsung clothes dryer
which I purchased in 2012. Within 6 months of ownership, it wasn't
heating very well. My one year warranty covered a tech replacing the
circuit board. Within that same year, it would rattle when operating.
The next tech replaced rollers, belt and other misc parts. The year
warranty has passed and it rattles again when in use. I had to pull
teeth to get them to cover the warranty because it began during the
warranty and was never repaired properly. They covered it and then,
another month or so, it would rattle again. In addition, it was having
problems heating again and the past few months it requires several
cycles to dry a small load. After numerous attempts of calling Samsung,
they will only tell me warranty is over and I will have to pay for
service. Of course, they have a problem understanding it all began
during the warranty and was never fixed properly. Needless to say, I
told them to kiss my ass.

I had, as I'm sure most of us had, dryers which lasted 20+ years which
was still working but I got rid of to buy this new Samsung and yet, this
POS can't last 4 years. I told them I will start a website called
Samsungsucks.com and invite all to express their stories about the
****ty Samsung customer service and product.

I will never buy another Samsung product.

My dish washer problem was my own doing. Couple weeks ago I replaced a
set of drinking water RO system filters under the counter and disturbed
the drain hose which was causing drain water back up. Today I took care
of it and ran a full load of stuffs A-OK. I got so upset I went out in
the morning to line up a Miele dish waster with 5 year warranty(spring
promotion). I will have to call the dealer to cancel my order.

Being native Korean who left the country more than half a century ago, I
have yet to try any Korean made major product. Car, appliances,
electronic stuffs. Oh, I have one specialty refrigerator to store
Kimchi long term, LOL! Called "Dim Chae".

I heard many stories Samsung TV sets always start problems as soon as
warranty runs out. Kia cars are only good for 100K miles. After that it
becomes money pit, LOL! I think Hyundai has better reputation. Funny
they're same company like GM and Chevy.

SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

On 1/28/2016 1:00 AM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Meanie
Tony's dishwasher topic led me to rant about my Samsung clothes dryer
which I purchased in 2012. Within 6 months of ownership, it wasn't
heating very well. My one year warranty covered a tech replacing the
circuit board. Within that same year, it would rattle when operating.
The next tech replaced rollers, belt and other misc parts. The year
warranty has passed and it rattles again when in use. I had to pull
teeth to get them to cover the warranty because it began during the
warranty and was never repaired properly. They covered it and then,
another month or so, it would rattle again. In addition, it was having
problems heating again and the past few months it requires several
cycles to dry a small load. After numerous attempts of calling Samsung,
they will only tell me warranty is over and I will have to pay for
service. Of course, they have a problem understanding it all began
during the warranty and was never fixed properly. Needless to say, I
told them to kiss my ass.

I had, as I'm sure most of us had, dryers which lasted 20+ years which
was still working but I got rid of to buy this new Samsung and yet, this
POS can't last 4 years. I told them I will start a website called
Samsungsucks.com and invite all to express their stories about the
****ty Samsung customer service and product.

I will never buy another Samsung product.

My dish washer problem was my own doing. Couple weeks ago I replaced a
set of drinking water RO system filters under the counter and disturbed
the drain hose which was causing drain water back up. Today I took care
of it and ran a full load of stuffs A-OK. I got so upset I went out in
the morning to line up a Miele dish waster with 5 year warranty(spring
promotion). I will have to call the dealer to cancel my order.

Being native Korean who left the country more than half a century ago, I
have yet to try any Korean made major product. Car, appliances,
electronic stuffs. Oh, I have one specialty refrigerator to store
Kimchi long term, LOL! Called "Dim Chae".

I heard many stories Samsung TV sets always start problems as soon as
warranty runs out. Kia cars are only good for 100K miles. After that it
becomes money pit, LOL! I think Hyundai has better reputation. Funny
they're same company like GM and Chevy.

I have 3 Samsung TV's and my flip cell phone is a Samsung and I am yet
to have any problem. They have a good reputation.

Don't know about their other stuff. Might be like a contractor I hired
for repaving my driveway who did an excellent job, but his brother who
was part of their firm was hired for some outside painting and did a
lousy job. Different product lines, different quality I guess.

SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:00:15 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Meanie
Tony's dishwasher topic led me to rant about my Samsung clothes dryer
which I purchased in 2012. Within 6 months of ownership, it wasn't
heating very well. My one year warranty covered a tech replacing the
circuit board. Within that same year, it would rattle when operating.
The next tech replaced rollers, belt and other misc parts. The year
warranty has passed and it rattles again when in use. I had to pull
teeth to get them to cover the warranty because it began during the
warranty and was never repaired properly. They covered it and then,
another month or so, it would rattle again. In addition, it was having
problems heating again and the past few months it requires several
cycles to dry a small load. After numerous attempts of calling Samsung,
they will only tell me warranty is over and I will have to pay for
service. Of course, they have a problem understanding it all began
during the warranty and was never fixed properly. Needless to say, I
told them to kiss my ass.

I had, as I'm sure most of us had, dryers which lasted 20+ years which
was still working but I got rid of to buy this new Samsung and yet, this
POS can't last 4 years. I told them I will start a website called
Samsungsucks.com and invite all to express their stories about the
****ty Samsung customer service and product.

I will never buy another Samsung product.

My dish washer problem was my own doing. Couple weeks ago I replaced a
set of drinking water RO system filters under the counter and disturbed
the drain hose which was causing drain water back up. Today I took care
of it and ran a full load of stuffs A-OK. I got so upset I went out in
the morning to line up a Miele dish waster with 5 year warranty(spring
promotion). I will have to call the dealer to cancel my order.

Being native Korean who left the country more than half a century ago, I
have yet to try any Korean made major product. Car, appliances,
electronic stuffs. Oh, I have one specialty refrigerator to store
Kimchi long term, LOL! Called "Dim Chae".

I heard many stories Samsung TV sets always start problems as soon as
warranty runs out. Kia cars are only good for 100K miles. After that it
becomes money pit, LOL! I think Hyundai has better reputation. Funny
they're same company like GM and Chevy.
Well, I bought a Samsung washer and drier about 8 years ago. I bought
a "no risk" extended warranty from my reseller. The terms were if no
repairs were required within 5 years I got my money back for the
warranty. Not a thing went wrong - and they are still in perfect
operating condition. I am in the computer business now for 26 years.

GoldStar monitors were better than NEC, Packard Bell, ViewSonic, and
many other brands, and the price point was also better. LG stands for
"Lucky Goldstar" - the old Goldstar brand.
As for Kia and Hyundai, they are a bit different than todys's GM and
Chevy. Kia and Hyundai are more like Nissan and Renault, or like
Chrysler and Mercedes were, and yet still different. They are separate
companies under common ownership - not divisions of the same company.
There are very few parts common between Kia and Hyundai. Those would
be parts supplied by a common supplier which may or may not be owned
by the same holding company.

An example would be in the japanese case of Subaru and Toyota -(who
also share a large percentage of common ownership) both using Nippon
Denso electrics - and NipponDenso is (at least majority) owned by
Toyota - which also owns Hino Trucks. The Hino plant builds (or at
least used to) most of the "land cruiser" product line for it's parent
company - yet Hino Trucks is a separate company from Toyota - under
common ownership. I believe the same is true of FUSO and Mitsubishi.
Not sure about the Korean System, but in Japan there are a few "banks"
that control almost all manufacturing - One "owns" nissan and it's
related companies, another "owns" Mitsubishi and all it's related
companies, and another "owns" the Toyota related companies, etc.

It gets more complicated with cross-polination between more distantly
related companies - with, for instance, Toyota selling the Mazda 2?
rebranded as the Yaris in Canada starting in the 2016 model year.
In past years there have been alliances between Ford and Mazda,
Chrysler and Mitsubishi, GM and Toyota, GM and Suzuki etc where one
company owned a piece of the other company and either sold their
product under the other's name or the other's under theirs - like ford
selling the Mazda pickup as a Ford Courier, then later selling the
Ford Ranger as a Mazda B series (in certain markets)

Then there is GMC with their wholly owned subsidiaries Daewoo (Korea),
Isuzu(Japan) Opel (Germany) and Vauxhaull (Great Brittain) and their
formerly wholly owned subsidiary Holden (Australia)

Today the quality of the Korean Hyundai is right up there with Mazda,
Nissan, and Mitsubishi, and nipping hard at the heals of Toyota and
Subaru. (and Kia isn't very far behind) Sure can't judge them
(Hyundai) by the old Pony, Excel, and Stellar

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There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .

Not like Toyota, who's land cruiser was largely built of parts
licenced from GM. The F series motor is based on the 1935-195? Chevy
"Stovebolt" and the transmission and clutch were also licenced GM
parts well into the seventies. That was taking some of the best
proven technology from the (then) best in the business.

SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

On 1/27/2016 2:57 PM, Meanie wrote:
Tony's dishwasher topic led me to rant about my Samsung clothes dryer
which I purchased in 2012. Within 6 months of ownership, it wasn't
heating very well.
I had, as I'm sure most of us had, dryers which lasted 20+ years which
was still working but I got rid of to buy this new Samsung and yet, this
POS can't last 4 years. I told them I will start a website called
Samsungsucks.com and invite all to express their stories about the
****ty Samsung customer service and product.

I will never buy another Samsung product.


It's a lucky thing you didn't buy something made in America (not that
it's possible)--
The damn thing woulda never worked in the first place.
So shut the **** up!

SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

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SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:24:35 -0500, wrote:

There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .


I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai. Then they changed. Not
only did I stop laughing, I bought a new Sonata 2007, 2010, 2013 and
now have a 2015 Genesis. They have proven to be far better than any
GM, Volkswagen or MB car that I've ever owned.

My 2001 LeSeabre was falling apart in the driveway when I bought my
first Sonata built in Alabama. Everything fit, good paint, no
problems the entire time I owned it.

Every GM car I owned had to go back at least twice (some numerous
times) for warranty fixes, only one Hyundai went back at 57,000 miles
for a warranty fix.

Was: SAMSUNG SUCKS - now Hyundai
 

On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 7:35:26 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

My 2001 LeSabre was falling apart in the driveway...

I have the same car, excellent machine...gets 35mph on the highway. A one-time stretch (from Milw to Green Bay) 39 mph, and that's a 3.8 with 100K+ at the time.

Was: SAMSUNG SUCKS - now Hyundai
 

On 1/30/2016 9:50 AM, bob_villain wrote:
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 7:35:26 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

My 2001 LeSabre was falling apart in the driveway...

I have the same car, excellent machine...gets 35mph on the highway. A one-time stretch (from Milw to Green Bay) 39 mph, and that's a 3.8 with 100K+ at the time.


I liked the car for the first two years unill it started to waste away.
Engine was good, nothing else was. Needed some ignition modules, but
that is fairly routine. Transmission had to be rebuilt, climate
control had heat on one side, cooling on the other. You could switch it
though, just could not have the same on both sides. Heated seat burned
out after 2 years, but with 38,000 miles GM would not cover it in
warranty. They wanted to replace the seat bottom for $672 because the
$5 toaster element broke.

Both rear power window regulators broke and left the window to fall
down. I removed the regulator and propped the glass with a wood stick.
Brake lines rusted out. I was in the driveway when the brakes went
out. Assorted interior and dash lights were out.

Would have been criminal to sell the car so I gave it away. New owner
gave up and got rid of it after a few months.

Was: SAMSUNG SUCKS - now Hyundai
 

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:24:35 -0500, wrote:

There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .


I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai. Then they changed. Not
only did I stop laughing, I bought a new Sonata 2007, 2010, 2013 and
now have a 2015 Genesis. They have proven to be far better than any
GM, Volkswagen or MB car that I've ever owned.

My 2001 LeSeabre was falling apart in the driveway when I bought my
first Sonata built in Alabama. Everything fit, good paint, no
problems the entire time I owned it.

Every GM car I owned had to go back at least twice (some numerous
times) for warranty fixes, only one Hyundai went back at 57,000 miles
for a warranty fix.
And the worst part with the GM is it went back for the SAME problem,
time and again, if it was anything like most I've been involved with.
GM. Garbage Machine.
GMC - Garage Man's Companion.

Unless they make BIG changes I'll never own another one. (last
"decent" one I owned was a '28 National)

Was: SAMSUNG SUCKS - now Hyundai
 

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 06:50:50 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:

On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 7:35:26 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

My 2001 LeSabre was falling apart in the driveway...

I have the same car, excellent machine...gets 35mph on the highway. A one-time stretch (from Milw to Green Bay) 39 mph, and that's a 3.8 with 100K+ at the time.
Sounds like my old Pontiac TransSport with the trailer behind it.
35MPH was about all it would do after the first 5 miles or so - 39MPH
on a long downhill stretch!!!!

Mine was a 3.8 that I bought with 275000km on it and replaced the
engine with a delco crate engine that blew up at about 98000km.
(that's less than 60,000 miles)

If you meant MPG instead of MPH - sure they were relatively easy on
fuel when they were running right - but the agravation I endured from
mine wasn't worth it. My ranger drinks a bit more fuel (being
charitable) but at 340,000km with nothing but a clutch, 2 sets of U
joints, and 2 sets of front brakes - I'm sure not complaining!!!
And the clutch was far from worn out - the release cyl (inside the
bell housing) had given out - and while I had it apart I decided to
put the new clutch in rather than perhaps having to take it apart
again in the next couiple of years.

Was: SAMSUNG SUCKS - now Hyundai
 

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:23:00 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/30/2016 9:50 AM, bob_villain wrote:
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 7:35:26 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

My 2001 LeSabre was falling apart in the driveway...

I have the same car, excellent machine...gets 35mph on the highway. A one-time stretch (from Milw to Green Bay) 39 mph, and that's a 3.8 with 100K+ at the time.


I liked the car for the first two years unill it started to waste away.
Engine was good, nothing else was. Needed some ignition modules, but
that is fairly routine. Transmission had to be rebuilt, climate
control had heat on one side, cooling on the other. You could switch it
though, just could not have the same on both sides. Heated seat burned
out after 2 years, but with 38,000 miles GM would not cover it in
warranty. They wanted to replace the seat bottom for $672 because the
$5 toaster element broke.

Both rear power window regulators broke and left the window to fall
down. I removed the regulator and propped the glass with a wood stick.
Brake lines rusted out. I was in the driveway when the brakes went
out. Assorted interior and dash lights were out.

Would have been criminal to sell the car so I gave it away. New owner
gave up and got rid of it after a few months.

On mine the ABS controller (Modulator) ran the piston off the end of
the thread causing the rear brakes to be impossible to bleed after one
of the lines blew. Couldn't even pressurize the line to find the leak
-so didn't know what the problem was untill I bought a used ABS unit
and master cyl and put it in - then the leak showed up. I fixed the
leak then did an autopsy on the ABS unit.

It went through oxygen sensors at a horrific rate (didn't matter if
they were OEM or aftermarket)- and when the sensors were bad the heap
wouldn't pull the light trailer - and didn't show an O2 sensor code -
it just said the engine was running lean on both banks and went into
"limp mode" when driving down the highway - without the trailer.

If it got below 1/4 tank and you hit some yough road (like washboard)
the engine would "run out of gas" because the pickup got air instead
of gas. I had to get out and "burp" the fuel ine at the schrader valve
numerous times. On smooth roads you could run it down to the last pint
of fuel.
The plastic body was beautiful - but the steel that supported it had a
short half-life.
It ate front suspension bushings and CV joints too - as well as
(mostly) front wheel bearings. First indication was the ABS coming on
prematurely at stops, then the bearings would rumble. I think I
replaced both fronts twice and one back in under 100,00km
They had all been replaced shortly before I bought the vehicle.

Other than that it was just stupid little things like hidden
connections in the wire harness opening up, terminals overheating on
switches, etc, One I fought with for several months was the oil
pressure guage jumping around when I came to a stop. (ended up being a
broken ground wire down at the lower rad support, inside the harness)
Total PITA.

Was: SAMSUNG SUCKS - now Hyundai
 

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:24:35 -0500, wrote:

There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .


I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai. Then they changed. Not
only did I stop laughing, I bought a new Sonata 2007, 2010, 2013 and
now have a 2015 Genesis. They have proven to be far better than any
GM, Volkswagen or MB car that I've ever owned.

My 2001 LeSeabre was falling apart in the driveway when I bought my
first Sonata built in Alabama. Everything fit, good paint, no
problems the entire time I owned it.

Every GM car I owned had to go back at least twice (some numerous
times) for warranty fixes, only one Hyundai went back at 57,000 miles
for a warranty fix.

Adding in my $.02 worth:

I was always a GM guy. However, when I finally reached where I could
afford it I purchased a new Cadillac sedan. Upon delivery I drove it
home (approx 30 miles) and parked it in my garage. The next morning I
as I tried to leave for work I noticed a LOT of oil on my garage
floor. I called the deailer and they came with a flatbed and took the
car to their shop. Come to find out, there was NO rear seal on the
engine crank. They fixed it and I picked it up. Literally everything
on that car with either defective or it broke. After only nine months
I traded it for a BMW and stayed with them for 4 more cars. In 2007 I
was working in Syracuse NY and there is a very large Hyundai dealer
there (supposedly the largest in the world). My wife wanted a new
SUV so we visited them and purchased a Santa Fe LTD. I liked her car
so much that a month later I purchased one for myself, same model,
same color in and out. We both still drive them today and other than
routine maintenance they simply run and run and run. At this point,
no need to replace them.

Another story - my brother in law is a courier and he was driving a
2006 Sonata. In 2011 he traded it for a new Sonata and his '06 at the
time had 585K miles on the odometer. The dealer cleaned it up and put
in on the showroom floor to show that Sonata could endure the mileage.

My wife now feels like purchasing a new car but she cannot find one
that she likes as much as her Santa Fe.

OK - that was $.03 worth.

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:28:19 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:24:35 -0500, wrote:

There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .


I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai. Then they changed. Not
only did I stop laughing, I bought a new Sonata 2007, 2010, 2013 and
now have a 2015 Genesis. They have proven to be far better than any
GM, Volkswagen or MB car that I've ever owned.

My 2001 LeSeabre was falling apart in the driveway when I bought my
first Sonata built in Alabama. Everything fit, good paint, no
problems the entire time I owned it.

Every GM car I owned had to go back at least twice (some numerous
times) for warranty fixes, only one Hyundai went back at 57,000 miles
for a warranty fix.

Adding in my $.02 worth:

I was always a GM guy. However, when I finally reached where I could
afford it I purchased a new Cadillac sedan. Upon delivery I drove it
home (approx 30 miles) and parked it in my garage. The next morning I
as I tried to leave for work I noticed a LOT of oil on my garage
floor. I called the deailer and they came with a flatbed and took the
car to their shop. Come to find out, there was NO rear seal on the
engine crank. They fixed it and I picked it up. Literally everything
on that car with either defective or it broke. After only nine months
I traded it for a BMW and stayed with them for 4 more cars. In 2007 I
was working in Syracuse NY and there is a very large Hyundai dealer
there (supposedly the largest in the world). My wife wanted a new
SUV so we visited them and purchased a Santa Fe LTD. I liked her car
so much that a month later I purchased one for myself, same model,
same color in and out. We both still drive them today and other than
routine maintenance they simply run and run and run. At this point,
no need to replace them.

Another story - my brother in law is a courier and he was driving a
2006 Sonata. In 2011 he traded it for a new Sonata and his '06 at the
time had 585K miles on the odometer. The dealer cleaned it up and put
in on the showroom floor to show that Sonata could endure the mileage.

My wife now feels like purchasing a new car but she cannot find one
that she likes as much as her Santa Fe.

OK - that was $.03 worth.

Reliability is one of many factors when one chooses a personal car.
If you drive a Santa Fe, Try a BMW X3, Audi Q5 or Lexus RX350. Then
you know why people buy them.
Most prople I know who havce owned late model BMW ans Audi cars only
owned one. The Lexus is a different story completely. Virtually all I
know who have owned one have not bought anything else

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On 01/30/2016 06:59 PM, wrote:
Most prople I know who havce owned late model BMW ans Audi cars only
owned one. The Lexus is a different story completely. Virtually all I
know who have owned one have not bought anything else

Admittedly it was back in the 100 LS days, but I never had the desire to
buy another Audi. When we divorced my wife got the Audi and I wasn't sad
to see it go. She eventually traded it for a Rabbit (Golf). The first
generation Rabbits were no beauties but by the VW had figured out how
FWD worked.

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rbowman wrote:
On 01/30/2016 06:59 PM, wrote:
Most prople I know who havce owned late model BMW ans Audi cars only
owned one. The Lexus is a different story completely. Virtually all I
know who have owned one have not bought anything else

Admittedly it was back in the 100 LS days, but I never had the desire to
buy another Audi. When we divorced my wife got the Audi and I wasn't sad
to see it go. She eventually traded it for a Rabbit (Golf). The first
generation Rabbits were no beauties but by the VW had figured out how
FWD worked.

Still most Audi is front wheel biased, BMW is opposite. My new 2016
Acura MDX now can split power between front and rear 50-50 somewhat acts
like RWD car with improved lighter faster acting SH-AWD. With 9 speed
tranny MPG improved by almost 30%. Finally Acura's new plant in Alabama
got their act together regarding build quality.

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:31:25 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:28:19 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:24:35 -0500, wrote:

There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .


I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai. Then they changed. Not
only did I stop laughing, I bought a new Sonata 2007, 2010, 2013 and
now have a 2015 Genesis. They have proven to be far better than any
GM, Volkswagen or MB car that I've ever owned.

My 2001 LeSeabre was falling apart in the driveway when I bought my
first Sonata built in Alabama. Everything fit, good paint, no
problems the entire time I owned it.

Every GM car I owned had to go back at least twice (some numerous
times) for warranty fixes, only one Hyundai went back at 57,000 miles
for a warranty fix.

Adding in my $.02 worth:

I was always a GM guy. However, when I finally reached where I could
afford it I purchased a new Cadillac sedan. Upon delivery I drove it
home (approx 30 miles) and parked it in my garage. The next morning I
as I tried to leave for work I noticed a LOT of oil on my garage
floor. I called the deailer and they came with a flatbed and took the
car to their shop. Come to find out, there was NO rear seal on the
engine crank. They fixed it and I picked it up. Literally everything
on that car with either defective or it broke. After only nine months
I traded it for a BMW and stayed with them for 4 more cars. In 2007 I
was working in Syracuse NY and there is a very large Hyundai dealer
there (supposedly the largest in the world). My wife wanted a new
SUV so we visited them and purchased a Santa Fe LTD. I liked her car
so much that a month later I purchased one for myself, same model,
same color in and out. We both still drive them today and other than
routine maintenance they simply run and run and run. At this point,
no need to replace them.

Another story - my brother in law is a courier and he was driving a
2006 Sonata. In 2011 he traded it for a new Sonata and his '06 at the
time had 585K miles on the odometer. The dealer cleaned it up and put
in on the showroom floor to show that Sonata could endure the mileage.

My wife now feels like purchasing a new car but she cannot find one
that she likes as much as her Santa Fe.

OK - that was $.03 worth.

Reliability is one of many factors when one chooses a personal car.
If you drive a Santa Fe, Try a BMW X3, Audi Q5 or Lexus RX350. Then
you know why people buy them.
Most prople I know who havce owned late model BMW ans Audi cars only
owned one. The Lexus is a different story completely. Virtually all I
know who have owned one have not bought anything else

Most people who get BMW or Audi drives them max 4 years. When warranty
runs out, trade it in, or sell it, buy another one or lease them. One of
my neighbor has Porch SUV which he replaces every 3-4 years.
Initial investment is bit stiff but after that is is not bad. Lexus RX
is very comfy, reliable car but no driving fun factor. A friend, after
having so much trouble with MB, switched to RX350 and fell in love with
it. His son who is a lawyer f,or Google SE Asia office in Singapore
visited him about a year ago bought him fully loaded Audi A6. Now he
likes Audi more than Lexus RX... Some call them money pit but if one
can afford it why not?

My boy just dumped 8 year old Subaru WRX STi, got BMW 3 series non-turbo
with 6MT. So far nothing but praises for that little BMW.
Daughter is still sticking with Subaru Impreza.
That's the rub - if you have to ask how much it costs, you cannot
afford it. Most people I know, even if they can afford to "**** away"
the money required to buy a new Audi or BMW or Porsche every year,
have better places to put their money.
I do know one guy who buys what he wants, price be damned - and owns a
twin turbo 911 he bought new, as well as (currently) an S8 Audi. and a
couple of Jeeps.
He doesn't need to ask how much

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On 1/30/2016 9:31 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

know who have owned one have not bought anything else

Most people who get BMW or Audi drives them max 4 years. When warranty
runs out, trade it in, or sell it, buy another one or lease them.

Some call them money pit but if one
can afford it why not?


Not just a question of affording. How much time do you want to spend at
the dealer's waiting room or riding in the tow truck.

In my 54 years of driving I've had 3 tows. Two Oldsmobile, one BMW 3
series. Most expensive trips to the dealer was a Mercedes 300D.
Fortunately that was all covered by company expense account.

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:15:31 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:31:25 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:28:19 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:24:35 -0500, wrote:

There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .


I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai. Then they changed. Not
only did I stop laughing, I bought a new Sonata 2007, 2010, 2013 and
now have a 2015 Genesis. They have proven to be far better than any
GM, Volkswagen or MB car that I've ever owned.

My 2001 LeSeabre was falling apart in the driveway when I bought my
first Sonata built in Alabama. Everything fit, good paint, no
problems the entire time I owned it.

Every GM car I owned had to go back at least twice (some numerous
times) for warranty fixes, only one Hyundai went back at 57,000 miles
for a warranty fix.

Adding in my $.02 worth:

I was always a GM guy. However, when I finally reached where I could
afford it I purchased a new Cadillac sedan. Upon delivery I drove it
home (approx 30 miles) and parked it in my garage. The next morning I
as I tried to leave for work I noticed a LOT of oil on my garage
floor. I called the deailer and they came with a flatbed and took the
car to their shop. Come to find out, there was NO rear seal on the
engine crank. They fixed it and I picked it up. Literally everything
on that car with either defective or it broke. After only nine months
I traded it for a BMW and stayed with them for 4 more cars. In 2007 I
was working in Syracuse NY and there is a very large Hyundai dealer
there (supposedly the largest in the world). My wife wanted a new
SUV so we visited them and purchased a Santa Fe LTD. I liked her car
so much that a month later I purchased one for myself, same model,
same color in and out. We both still drive them today and other than
routine maintenance they simply run and run and run. At this point,
no need to replace them.

Another story - my brother in law is a courier and he was driving a
2006 Sonata. In 2011 he traded it for a new Sonata and his '06 at the
time had 585K miles on the odometer. The dealer cleaned it up and put
in on the showroom floor to show that Sonata could endure the mileage.

My wife now feels like purchasing a new car but she cannot find one
that she likes as much as her Santa Fe.

OK - that was $.03 worth.

Reliability is one of many factors when one chooses a personal car.
If you drive a Santa Fe, Try a BMW X3, Audi Q5 or Lexus RX350. Then
you know why people buy them.
Most prople I know who havce owned late model BMW ans Audi cars only
owned one. The Lexus is a different story completely. Virtually all I
know who have owned one have not bought anything else

Most people who get BMW or Audi drives them max 4 years. When warranty
runs out, trade it in, or sell it, buy another one or lease them. One of
my neighbor has Porch SUV which he replaces every 3-4 years.
Initial investment is bit stiff but after that is is not bad. Lexus RX
is very comfy, reliable car but no driving fun factor. A friend, after
having so much trouble with MB, switched to RX350 and fell in love with
it. His son who is a lawyer f,or Google SE Asia office in Singapore
visited him about a year ago bought him fully loaded Audi A6. Now he
likes Audi more than Lexus RX... Some call them money pit but if one
can afford it why not?

My boy just dumped 8 year old Subaru WRX STi, got BMW 3 series non-turbo
with 6MT. So far nothing but praises for that little BMW.
Daughter is still sticking with Subaru Impreza.
That's the rub - if you have to ask how much it costs, you cannot
afford it. Most people I know, even if they can afford to "**** away"
the money required to buy a new Audi or BMW or Porsche every year,
have better places to put their money.
I do know one guy who buys what he wants, price be damned - and owns a
twin turbo 911 he bought new, as well as (currently) an S8 Audi. and a
couple of Jeeps.
He doesn't need to ask how much
Sorry - make that an R8 and the Porsche is a Pfaff 911

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On 01/30/2016 09:07 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

Still most Audi is front wheel biased, BMW is opposite.

I don't have a problem with FWD but Audi's execution in the early days
had issues. Or I should say, I don't have a problem anymore. The Audi
was my first FWD vehicle and it was a learning experience. I was used to
throttle steering.

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On 01/30/2016 09:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
In my 54 years of driving I've had 3 tows. Two Oldsmobile, one BMW 3
series. Most expensive trips to the dealer was a Mercedes 300D.
Fortunately that was all covered by company expense account.

In a way I've been lucky. The only times I've had a car towed it was
totalled. That's not to say there weren't some roadside repairs or
limping home but I always made it. Even the last total got me home,
shedding a few pieces and parts along the way.

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On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 6:28:33 PM UTC-6, Tony Hwang wrote:

Reliability is one of many factors when one chooses a personal car.
If you drive a Santa Fe, Try a BMW X3, Audi Q5 or Lexus RX350. Then
you know why people buy them.

I still have a '95 SL2 Saturn. It has never stranded me (except when I left the lights on!). Failed parts: water pump, alternator, EGR, coolant sensor....not a bulb (save one on the dash) has blown. Cost of parts (Auto Zone), about $300. They *can* make a reliable car...too bad this one didn't continue in the same way.
Most folks won't like this car...it is still unique.

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 22:01:29 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:31:25 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 17:28:19 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:35:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:24:35 -0500, wrote:

There is a good reason the early Hyundai vehicles were substandard.
Hyundai had for years been bulding the Ford Cortina under licence. The
Stellar was based on the Cortina Mk2 but with a Mitsubishi power
train.

There is also good reason why the pony resembled an Austin Marina.
It was designed by the engineer who designed the Marina - the manager
hired by Hyundai to run the project was from Leyand's Morris division
- and they used parts from the Cortina they were already building as
well - and the Mitsubishi power train

Talk about taking the best from a bad lot - - - - .


I used to laugh at people buying Hyundai. Then they changed. Not
only did I stop laughing, I bought a new Sonata 2007, 2010, 2013 and
now have a 2015 Genesis. They have proven to be far better than any
GM, Volkswagen or MB car that I've ever owned.

My 2001 LeSeabre was falling apart in the driveway when I bought my
first Sonata built in Alabama. Everything fit, good paint, no
problems the entire time I owned it.

Every GM car I owned had to go back at least twice (some numerous
times) for warranty fixes, only one Hyundai went back at 57,000 miles
for a warranty fix.

Adding in my $.02 worth:

I was always a GM guy. However, when I finally reached where I could
afford it I purchased a new Cadillac sedan. Upon delivery I drove it
home (approx 30 miles) and parked it in my garage. The next morning I
as I tried to leave for work I noticed a LOT of oil on my garage
floor. I called the deailer and they came with a flatbed and took the
car to their shop. Come to find out, there was NO rear seal on the
engine crank. They fixed it and I picked it up. Literally everything
on that car with either defective or it broke. After only nine months
I traded it for a BMW and stayed with them for 4 more cars. In 2007 I
was working in Syracuse NY and there is a very large Hyundai dealer
there (supposedly the largest in the world). My wife wanted a new
SUV so we visited them and purchased a Santa Fe LTD. I liked her car
so much that a month later I purchased one for myself, same model,
same color in and out. We both still drive them today and other than
routine maintenance they simply run and run and run. At this point,
no need to replace them.

Another story - my brother in law is a courier and he was driving a
2006 Sonata. In 2011 he traded it for a new Sonata and his '06 at the
time had 585K miles on the odometer. The dealer cleaned it up and put
in on the showroom floor to show that Sonata could endure the mileage.

My wife now feels like purchasing a new car but she cannot find one
that she likes as much as her Santa Fe.

OK - that was $.03 worth.

Reliability is one of many factors when one chooses a personal car.
If you drive a Santa Fe, Try a BMW X3, Audi Q5 or Lexus RX350. Then
you know why people buy them.
Most prople I know who havce owned late model BMW ans Audi cars only
owned one. The Lexus is a different story completely. Virtually all I
know who have owned one have not bought anything else

Most people who get BMW or Audi drives them max 4 years. When warranty
runs out, trade it in, or sell it, buy another one or lease them. One of
my neighbor has Porch SUV which he replaces every 3-4 years.
Initial investment is bit stiff but after that is is not bad. Lexus RX
is very comfy, reliable car but no driving fun factor. A friend, after
having so much trouble with MB, switched to RX350 and fell in love with
it. His son who is a lawyer f,or Google SE Asia office in Singapore
visited him about a year ago bought him fully loaded Audi A6. Now he
likes Audi more than Lexus RX... Some call them money pit but if one exotic
can afford it why not?

My boy just dumped 8 year old Subaru WRX STi, got BMW 3 series non-turbo
with 6MT. So far nothing but praises for that little BMW.
Daughter is still sticking with Subaru Impreza.
That's the rub - if you have to ask how much it costs, you cannot
afford it. Most people I know, even if they can afford to "**** away"
the money required to buy a new Audi or BMW or Porsche every year,
have better places to put their money.
I do know one guy who buys what he wants, price be damned - and owns a
twin turbo 911 he bought new, as well as (currently) an S8 Audi. and a
couple of Jeeps.
He doesn't need to ask how much

Nothing wrong with any one you mentioned. As long as he could manage and
afford what he does. When I went to Europe and traveled around, there I
could see many, many fancy expensive exotic vehicles every where. Even
places like Estonia, Russia, Hungary, Romania. Same in countries of SE
Asia, Japan, China, Korea. Some people think car
is their asset number 1, show off status symbol? Who cares!
Like the "wolfare cadillacs" on the American south -
Tarpaper shack with a brand new Caddy in the driveway and a 40" or
larger TV in the front window.

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:03:26 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 01/30/2016 09:07 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

Still most Audi is front wheel biased, BMW is opposite.

I don't have a problem with FWD but Audi's execution in the early days
had issues. Or I should say, I don't have a problem anymore. The Audi
was my first FWD vehicle and it was a learning experience. I was used to
throttle steering.
And it had a lot of problems that were not FWD specific too.

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On 01/31/2016 01:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:03:26 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 01/30/2016 09:07 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

Still most Audi is front wheel biased, BMW is opposite.

I don't have a problem with FWD but Audi's execution in the early days
had issues. Or I should say, I don't have a problem anymore. The Audi
was my first FWD vehicle and it was a learning experience. I was used to
throttle steering.
And it had a lot of problems that were not FWD specific too.


Yes it did. I was driving to Trois-Rivieres on a rainy day. The rain
stopped but when I turned off the wipers, they didn't. Fortunately it
was a business day so when I got to the next town I could call the
dealership to find out which relay to pull.

Then there were the plug wires that failed without warning about every
15,000 miles. I carried a spare set.

It wasn't the car's fault but after the oil embargo and the 55 mph
national speed limit, which was enforced in the early days, I found it
was not geared for 55 mph cruising and was happier at 75 in 4th.

Again, not really the car's fault but I didn't find the deeply sculpted
seats comfortable. I had actually went in to buy a Porsche 914 only to
find they didn't make it in my size. That's a line I stole from a car
salesman years later. I bought a Firebird from him and when I went in to
kick the tires on the new Fiero he yelled across the showroom floor
'They don't make that in your size'. He was right and I stuck with the
Firebird. I'd already switched to GM when Ford stopped making Mustangs
in my size. It only took them a few decades to make a real Mustang again.

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On 01/31/2016 02:49 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
I remember also early Audi had sudden acceleration issues. Main
difference in FWD vs. RWD is steering. Under steering vs. Over steering.

The only acceleration issue I had was lack of.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...trumented-test

It would do 0-60 in about 12 seconds, which means it would probably be
looking at a Prius' taillights. Like the article said, dropping a gear
to pass meant you ran out of revs and when you dropped it into 4th
forward progress died. It kept life interesting.

I got used to the FWD without killing myself. Years later when I heard
about the drifting fad my question was how do you drift a FWD. Then I
found out it was by carefully selecting one of the few Japanese RWD
models, chopping a AWD, or for the most extreme rework the running gear
to make it RWD.

Thumbing through HotRod at the library yesterday, I saw one person was
running 10 second quarters with a FWD. The rest of the featured cars
were RWD but at least it can be done.

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On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:49:32 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 23:03:26 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 01/30/2016 09:07 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

Still most Audi is front wheel biased, BMW is opposite.

I don't have a problem with FWD but Audi's execution in the early days
had issues. Or I should say, I don't have a problem anymore. The Audi
was my first FWD vehicle and it was a learning experience. I was used to
throttle steering.
And it had a lot of problems that were not FWD specific too.

I remember also early Audi had sudden acceleration issues. Main
difference in FWD vs. RWD is steering. Under steering vs. Over steering.
Also FWD vehicle has nothing much at the back regarding drive train.
Long before the "unintended accelleration " fiasco they had springs
that detonated on their own, destroying the tires. You could sit and
watch them rust.

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SAMSUNG SUCKS
 

On 1/27/2016 11:00 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Meanie
Tony's dishwasher topic led me to rant about my Samsung clothes dryer
which I purchased in 2012. Within 6 months of ownership, it wasn't
heating very well. My one year warranty covered a tech replacing the
circuit board. Within that same year, it would rattle when operating.
The next tech replaced rollers, belt and other misc parts. The year
warranty has passed and it rattles again when in use. I had to pull
teeth to get them to cover the warranty because it began during the
warranty and was never repaired properly. They covered it and then,
another month or so, it would rattle again. In addition, it was having
problems heating again and the past few months it requires several
cycles to dry a small load. After numerous attempts of calling Samsung,
they will only tell me warranty is over and I will have to pay for
service. Of course, they have a problem understanding it all began
during the warranty and was never fixed properly. Needless to say, I
told them to kiss my ass.

I had, as I'm sure most of us had, dryers which lasted 20+ years which
was still working but I got rid of to buy this new Samsung and yet, this
POS can't last 4 years. I told them I will start a website called
Samsungsucks.com and invite all to express their stories about the
****ty Samsung customer service and product.

I will never buy another Samsung product.

8

I heard many stories Samsung TV sets always start problems as soon as
warranty runs out.

We purchased a Samsung W/D on the advice of a friend. Just two of
us in the household so it's not like either sees lots of use/abuse.

Washer lasted ~16 months before the door latch "mechanism" (electromechanical)
failed -- poor design (flimsy plastic parts in the highest "abuse" point of the
machine).

Expecting to do the repair myself (out of warranty), the Samsung site couldn't
provide me with definitive information as to which replacement part to use:
I could opt for the part with exactly the same P/N (and exactly the same
crappy design) or *wonder* if the alternative part was compatible and an
*improvement* over the "old" design.

Contacting Samsung directly gave me no additional insight -- they just read
the information from the web site to me! (lots of confidence in that sort
of reply -- NOT!)

After escalating the issue (keep in mind, I'm just trying to get an answer to
"which replacement part should I purchase"), they sent a guy out to do the
repair as a freebie. Technician claimed there were at least *7* versions
(revisions) of our washer (!!).

Great! Though I'd much rather he had shown up with a "new and improved"
replacement part so I wouldn't be counting the months to the replacement
part's (similar?) failure!

I recounted this experience to friend who had recommended the W/D to us:
"Oh, we've already REPLACED *both* the washer and dryer!" Doing some
research on the dryer turned up a common "drum failure" mode. Wunnerful!
That won't be anything *I* can fix (easily).

Yum, yum! :

One of the places with which I'm affiliated recycles/refurbishes electronic
kit (literally millions of pounds annually). By far, most (defective) LCD
monitors they see are Samsung branded. Almost always bad capacitors or
FETs in the backlight drive (inverter).

Of course, its possible that they have the *lowest* failure rate of all
LCD monitors and the high percentage we see is a consequence of them being
more popular (???) in the market. Or, more popular among the folks who
donate this (defective) equipment.

Or, it could be that they are just a crappier product.

I've been tracking LCD TV donations/repairs in an attempt to get a handle
on that "quality" as well... (our plasma is 13 years old, now -- probably
time to "upgrade" : )