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Mark Bannon January 2nd 16 02:09 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
AB 208, Bigelow. Vehicles: highway: lane use.

Existing law (2015) requires, on a 2-lane highway where passing is
unsafe due to specified reasons, *a slow-moving vehicle* behind
which 5 or more vehicles are formed in a line to turn off the roadway
at the nearest place designed as a turnout or wherever sufficient
area of a safe turnout exists in order to permit the vehicles
following it to proceed.

This bill (2016) requires, on a 2-lane highway where passing is
unsafe due to specified reasons, *any vehicle* proceeding upon
the highway at a speed less than the *normal speed of traffic*
moving in the same direction at that time, behind which 5 or more
vehicles are formed in line, to turn off the roadway at the
nearest place designated as a turnout or wherever sufficient area
for a safe turnout exists.

"slow moving" vs "any vehicle at less than normal speed"
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB208


Mark Bannon January 2nd 16 02:12 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
This relates to anyone pulled over where the cellphone is confiscated.

This year, the California Electronic Communications Privacy Act goes
into effect. CalECPA requires police to get a warrant before searching
your electronic devices. It will be up to a judge to decide if police
have probable cause to access your devices, location information and
search history.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160SB178

Mark Bannon January 2nd 16 02:16 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
Hoverboard legislation starts January 1st, 2016.

AB 604 defines a hoverboard as an "electrically motorized board"
which means riders must be 16 or older and wear a helmet while riding.

The law also restricts use to specially designated bikeways or highways,
which means hoverboards are no longer legal in public places.

Full text:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB604



Mark Bannon January 2nd 16 02:26 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
California law enforcement is expanding the already much
abused Amber Alert program (DON'T FLUSH TOILETS WHILE DRIVING!)
with a few new typically Californian wacko variations in 2016
(just like the already wacko five legally binding colors for curbs)

The first idiotic new alert is a 'Yellow Alert' which will go
out on highway message boards with hit-and-run suspect vehicle
descriptions.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201320140AB47

The second idiotic new alert is a "Silver Alert', which will
go out on highway message boards when a person 65 or older
is missing.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB643

Upcoming for next year ... White Alerts - warning when children
don't brush their teeth or boys don't wash behind their ears!

Mark Bannon January 2nd 16 02:31 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
Another new crime!

It's already illegal for car drivers, but if you're on a bicycle,
it's now illegal to use a headset, earplugs or earbuds in both
ears while operating your bicycle.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160SB491
It's in there - buried deep down within the wholly unrelated crap.

(11) Existing law prohibits a person operating a motor vehicle or a
bicycle from wearing a headset covering both ears, or from wearing earplugs
in both ears, subject to certain exceptions.

This bill would also prohibit wearing earphones covering, resting on,
or inserted in, both ears. Because a violation of these provisions would
be a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.



Mark Bannon January 2nd 16 02:36 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
The always wacko state of California had to make a (temporary) law
so as to NOT charge tolls for pedestrians on bridges!

AB 40 keeps toll bridges free for pedestrians and bicyclists
but only until 2021, so hurry up!

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB40


Mark Bannon January 2nd 16 02:42 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


AMuzi January 2nd 16 02:52 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 1/2/2016 8:42 AM, Mark Bannon wrote:
Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


The last time I had "access to auto insurance" it was $300
cash or certified check, in person at their offices, for a
30 day policy. Wonder what these guys will pay, if anything..

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971



Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_16_] January 2nd 16 03:01 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 1/2/2016 6:09 AM, Mark Bannon wrote:
AB 208, Bigelow. Vehicles: highway: lane use.

Existing law (2015) requires, on a 2-lane highway where passing is
unsafe due to specified reasons, *a slow-moving vehicle* behind
which 5 or more vehicles are formed in a line to turn off the roadway
at the nearest place designed as a turnout or wherever sufficient
area of a safe turnout exists in order to permit the vehicles
following it to proceed.


Turnouts?
LOL. You provincial snot!


Eagle[_6_] January 2nd 16 03:12 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
It happens that Mark Bannon formulated :
Hoverboard legislation starts January 1st, 2016.

AB 604 defines a hoverboard as an "electrically motorized board"
which means riders must be 16 or older and wear a helmet while riding.

The law also restricts use to specially designated bikeways or highways,
which means hoverboards are no longer legal in public places.

Full text:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB604


"Hoverboard"? Like the ones used in 'Back To The Future part 2'?

Eagle[_6_] January 2nd 16 03:19 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
AMuzi laid this down on his screen :
On 1/2/2016 8:42 AM, Mark Bannon wrote:
Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


The last time I had "access to auto insurance" it was $300 cash or certified
check, in person at their offices, for a 30 day policy. Wonder what these
guys will pay, if anything..


I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will attract
many illegals. That would mean they would have to get legal and buy
insurance or have their ride confiscated and them jailed for no
insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of being in country
illegally, so off they go....on foot.

burfordTjustice January 2nd 16 04:13 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 07:12:45 -0800
"Eagle" wrote:

It happens that Mark Bannon formulated :
Hoverboard legislation starts January 1st, 2016.

AB 604 defines a hoverboard as an "electrically motorized board"
which means riders must be 16 or older and wear a helmet while
riding.

The law also restricts use to specially designated bikeways or
highways, which means hoverboards are no longer legal in public
places.

Full text:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB604


"Hoverboard"? Like the ones used in 'Back To The Future part 2'?


Google broke for you?
Never watch the ****ing news?
Too much Peyote in your pipe?

burfordTjustice January 2nd 16 04:15 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 07:19:27 -0800
"Eagle" wrote:

AMuzi laid this down on his screen :
On 1/2/2016 8:42 AM, Mark Bannon wrote:
Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


The last time I had "access to auto insurance" it was $300 cash or
certified check, in person at their offices, for a 30 day policy.
Wonder what these guys will pay, if anything..


I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will attract
many illegals. That would mean they would have to get legal and buy
insurance or have their ride confiscated and them jailed for no
insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of being in country
illegally, so off they go....on foot.

Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!

[email protected] January 2nd 16 04:21 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 14:42:55 -0000 (UTC), Mark Bannon
wrote:

Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


Do they go ahead and register to vote then too?

[email protected] January 2nd 16 04:25 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 14:12:48 -0000 (UTC), Mark Bannon
wrote:

This relates to anyone pulled over where the cellphone is confiscated.

This year, the California Electronic Communications Privacy Act goes
into effect. CalECPA requires police to get a warrant before searching
your electronic devices. It will be up to a judge to decide if police
have probable cause to access your devices, location information and
search history.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160SB178



That sounds great but it still doesn't stop them from looking. It only
means they can't use the information in court.
They still can use the information to "get lucky" in a traffic stop or
know where to look to find legal probable cause from a place where you
don't have the expectation of privacy.

(PeteCresswell) January 2nd 16 04:38 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
Per Mark Bannon:
*any vehicle* proceeding upon
the highway at a speed less than the *normal speed of traffic*


I wonder how that plays out in those 55 mph zones where "normal speed
of traffic" is more like 60-65.
--
Pete Cresswell

Wayne Kerr January 2nd 16 05:12 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 01/02/2016 10:12 AM, Eagle wrote:
It happens that Mark Bannon formulated :
Hoverboard legislation starts January 1st, 2016.

AB 604 defines a hoverboard as an "electrically motorized board" which means riders must be 16 or older and wear a helmet while riding.
The law also restricts use to specially designated bikeways or highways, which means hoverboards are no longer legal in public places.

Full text:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB604


"Hoverboard"? Like the ones used in 'Back To The Future part 2'?



There are two types of hoverboards.

The two-wheeled variety are typically used by lazy kids.

When the lazy kids grow up, they graduate to the 18-wheelers you see at walmart hauling around obese shoppers.

Scott Dorsey January 2nd 16 05:12 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
burfordTjustice wrote:
"Eagle" wrote:

I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will attract
many illegals. That would mean they would have to get legal and buy
insurance or have their ride confiscated and them jailed for no
insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of being in country
illegally, so off they go....on foot.


Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!


That's basically the point of giving them licenses. They are already
driving, so this allows the state to figure out who they are and keep
some degree of control over the process rather than just throwing their
hands up over the matter.

What else are you going do to? Put them in jail? Believe me, living
in an American jail probably beats living in Tegucigalpa these days.
Until it's actually safe to live in Central America and people are able
to make a living doing honest work there, we're going to continue to have
a problem.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Eagle[_6_] January 2nd 16 05:17 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
Wayne Kerr has brought this to us :
On 01/02/2016 10:12 AM, Eagle wrote:
It happens that Mark Bannon formulated :
Hoverboard legislation starts January 1st, 2016.

AB 604 defines a hoverboard as an "electrically motorized board" which
means riders must be 16 or older and wear a helmet while riding.
The law also restricts use to specially designated bikeways or highways,
which means hoverboards are no longer legal in public places.

Full text:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB604


"Hoverboard"? Like the ones used in 'Back To The Future part 2'?



There are two types of hoverboards.

The two-wheeled variety are typically used by lazy kids.

When the lazy kids grow up, they graduate to the 18-wheelers you see at
walmart hauling around obese shoppers.


Ah...I see said the blind man.

rbowman January 2nd 16 06:11 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 01/02/2016 08:12 AM, Eagle wrote:
It happens that Mark Bannon formulated :
Hoverboard legislation starts January 1st, 2016.

AB 604 defines a hoverboard as an "electrically motorized board" which
means riders must be 16 or older and wear a helmet while riding.
The law also restricts use to specially designated bikeways or
highways, which means hoverboards are no longer legal in public places.

Full text:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB604


"Hoverboard"? Like the ones used in 'Back To The Future part 2'?


It's a new device invented by the medical profession to ensure a
continued revenue stream. Presumably somewhere, sometime a person has
gotten further than the myriad youtube fail videos. Think Seque with
nothing to hold onto.

Porky Pig January 2nd 16 06:27 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 1/2/2016 12:17 PM, Eagle wrote:
Wayne Kerr has brought this to us :


There are two types of hoverboards.

The two-wheeled variety are typically used by lazy kids.

When the lazy kids grow up, they graduate to the 18-wheelers you see at walmart hauling around obese shoppers.


Ah...I see said the blind man.


Being a glutton and a sloth has it's rewards.

For example, I was just at Disney World and noticed that fat people
on obesecycles don't have to wait as long to get on a ride. In fact,
they seem to get preferential treatment.

Is this what they call the Disney FatPass+?



Eagle[_6_] January 2nd 16 07:55 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
rbowman laid this down on his screen :
On 01/02/2016 08:12 AM, Eagle wrote:
It happens that Mark Bannon formulated :
Hoverboard legislation starts January 1st, 2016.

AB 604 defines a hoverboard as an "electrically motorized board" which
means riders must be 16 or older and wear a helmet while riding.
The law also restricts use to specially designated bikeways or
highways, which means hoverboards are no longer legal in public places.

Full text:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB604


"Hoverboard"? Like the ones used in 'Back To The Future part 2'?


It's a new device invented by the medical profession to ensure a continued
revenue stream. Presumably somewhere, sometime a person has gotten further
than the myriad youtube fail videos. Think Seque with nothing to hold onto.


I believe that about the medical community.


VERB

1.(in music and film) move without interruption from one song, melody,
or scene to another:
"allowing one song to segue into the next"

NOUN

1.an uninterrupted transition from one piece of music or film scene to
another.

Huh? lol

(PeteCresswell) January 2nd 16 08:46 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
Per Scott Dorsey:
What else are you going do to? Put them in jail? Believe me, living
in an American jail probably beats living in Tegucigalpa these days.
Until it's actually safe to live in Central America and people are able
to make a living doing honest work there, we're going to continue to have
a problem.


I keep hearing that the net Mexico-USA migration is towards Mexico now.

If that's correct, are the numbers over-ridden by immigration from
Central America ?
--
Pete Cresswell

(PeteCresswell) January 2nd 16 08:48 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
Per Eagle:
Ah...I see said the blind....


.... carpenter as he picked up his hammer and saw.
--
Pete Cresswell

burfordTjustice January 2nd 16 09:25 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 2 Jan 2016 12:12:51 -0500
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

burfordTjustice wrote:
"Eagle" wrote:

I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will
attract many illegals. That would mean they would have to get
legal and buy insurance or have their ride confiscated and them
jailed for no insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of
being in country illegally, so off they go....on foot.


Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!


That's basically the point of giving them licenses. They are already
driving, so this allows the state to figure out who they are and keep
some degree of control over the process rather than just throwing
their hands up over the matter.

What else are you going do to? Put them in jail? Believe me, living
in an American jail probably beats living in Tegucigalpa these days.
Until it's actually safe to live in Central America and people are
able to make a living doing honest work there, we're going to
continue to have a problem.
--scott


Unless the drivers license lets them vote,
illegals are not going to get one.
Only Calif. liberals think they will

Mark Lloyd[_12_] January 2nd 16 09:38 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 01/02/2016 09:12 AM, Eagle wrote:

[snip]

"Hoverboard"? Like the ones used in 'Back To The Future part 2'?


They SHOULD.

Some people around here got those for Christmas. They had 2 wheels (on
the sides).

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The statement that God created man in his own image is ticking like a
time bomb in the foundations of Christianity." -- Arthur C. Clarke

rbowman January 2nd 16 11:40 PM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 01/02/2016 12:55 PM, Eagle wrote:

VERB

1.(in music and film) move without interruption from one song, melody,
or scene to another:
"allowing one song to segue into the next"

NOUN

1.an uninterrupted transition from one piece of music or film scene to
another.

Huh? lol


Okay, okay, Segway to you sir! Anyway users of the device commonly
referred to as a hoverboard tend to seque from standing to lying on the
ground moaning. Ignore the clauses in the definition of seque that talk
about a smooth transition. Ain't nothing smooth about it.

Brent[_4_] January 3rd 16 12:10 AM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 2016-01-02, Mark Bannon wrote:
AB 208, Bigelow. Vehicles: highway: lane use.

Existing law (2015) requires, on a 2-lane highway where passing is
unsafe due to specified reasons, *a slow-moving vehicle* behind
which 5 or more vehicles are formed in a line to turn off the roadway
at the nearest place designed as a turnout or wherever sufficient
area of a safe turnout exists in order to permit the vehicles
following it to proceed.

This bill (2016) requires, on a 2-lane highway where passing is
unsafe due to specified reasons, *any vehicle* proceeding upon
the highway at a speed less than the *normal speed of traffic*
moving in the same direction at that time, behind which 5 or more
vehicles are formed in line, to turn off the roadway at the
nearest place designated as a turnout or wherever sufficient area
for a safe turnout exists.

"slow moving" vs "any vehicle at less than normal speed"
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB208


Creates a catch 22. Going the speed limit is less than the normal speed
of traffic. Going the normal speed of traffic is speeding. Perfect when
combined with the war on some drugs and civil asset forfeiture.




>>>Ashton Crusher January 3rd 16 12:24 AM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 14:31:13 -0000 (UTC), Mark Bannon
wrote:

Another new crime!

It's already illegal for car drivers, but if you're on a bicycle,
it's now illegal to use a headset, earplugs or earbuds in both
ears while operating your bicycle.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160SB491
It's in there - buried deep down within the wholly unrelated crap.

(11) Existing law prohibits a person operating a motor vehicle or a
bicycle from wearing a headset covering both ears, or from wearing earplugs
in both ears, subject to certain exceptions.

This bill would also prohibit wearing earphones covering, resting on,
or inserted in, both ears. Because a violation of these provisions would
be a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.


So does this make the use of hearing aids illegal while driving or
bicycling or are they an exemption.

It's all typical stupid big brother gvt assholery.

>>>Ashton Crusher January 3rd 16 12:26 AM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 14:36:48 -0000 (UTC), Mark Bannon
wrote:

The always wacko state of California had to make a (temporary) law
so as to NOT charge tolls for pedestrians on bridges!

AB 40 keeps toll bridges free for pedestrians and bicyclists
but only until 2021, so hurry up!

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB40



Great, typical chicken**** gvt/representative BS so that when they
allow the lobbyists to get their money it will be years later and that
way the chicke**** legislators who passed this won't get the blame
when it happens.

>>>Ashton Crusher January 3rd 16 12:29 AM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 11:15:34 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 07:19:27 -0800
"Eagle" wrote:

AMuzi laid this down on his screen :
On 1/2/2016 8:42 AM, Mark Bannon wrote:
Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


The last time I had "access to auto insurance" it was $300 cash or
certified check, in person at their offices, for a 30 day policy.
Wonder what these guys will pay, if anything..


I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will attract
many illegals. That would mean they would have to get legal and buy
insurance or have their ride confiscated and them jailed for no
insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of being in country
illegally, so off they go....on foot.

Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!


Yes. This is just the liberals making their life easier by giving
ILLEGALS a LEGAL ID. Try this in Mexico and see how far you get as an
American down there illegally....

>>>Ashton Crusher January 3rd 16 12:30 AM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 2 Jan 2016 12:12:51 -0500, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

burfordTjustice wrote:
"Eagle" wrote:

I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will attract
many illegals. That would mean they would have to get legal and buy
insurance or have their ride confiscated and them jailed for no
insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of being in country
illegally, so off they go....on foot.


Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!


That's basically the point of giving them licenses. They are already
driving, so this allows the state to figure out who they are and keep
some degree of control over the process rather than just throwing their
hands up over the matter.


So I guess we should give convicted DUI offenders licenses too and let
them drive so we can better keep track of them.

What else are you going do to? Put them in jail? Believe me, living
in an American jail probably beats living in Tegucigalpa these days.
Until it's actually safe to live in Central America and people are able
to make a living doing honest work there, we're going to continue to have
a problem.
--scott


Ed Pawlowski January 3rd 16 02:03 AM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On 1/2/2016 7:24 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 14:31:13 -0000 (UTC), Mark Bannon
wrote:

Another new crime!

It's already illegal for car drivers, but if you're on a bicycle,
it's now illegal to use a headset, earplugs or earbuds in both
ears while operating your bicycle.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160SB491
It's in there - buried deep down within the wholly unrelated crap.

(11) Existing law prohibits a person operating a motor vehicle or a
bicycle from wearing a headset covering both ears, or from wearing earplugs
in both ears, subject to certain exceptions.

This bill would also prohibit wearing earphones covering, resting on,
or inserted in, both ears. Because a violation of these provisions would
be a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.


So does this make the use of hearing aids illegal while driving or
bicycling or are they an exemption.

It's all typical stupid big brother gvt assholery.


The government may be stupid, but some cyclists are even stupider.
Riding a bike with loud music in your earbuds is dangerous, but people
do it. Just as dumb, I see people in the dark walking along the roadside
and other riding bikes in the dark with no reflectors or lights.

Uncle Monster[_2_] January 3rd 16 02:55 AM

New California Driving Laws take effect January 1st, 2016
 
On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 6:30:52 PM UTC-6, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 11:15:34 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 07:19:27 -0800
"Eagle" wrote:

AMuzi laid this down on his screen :
On 1/2/2016 8:42 AM, Mark Bannon wrote:
Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


The last time I had "access to auto insurance" it was $300 cash or
certified check, in person at their offices, for a 30 day policy.
Wonder what these guys will pay, if anything..

I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will attract
many illegals. That would mean they would have to get legal and buy
insurance or have their ride confiscated and them jailed for no
insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of being in country
illegally, so off they go....on foot.

Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!


Yes. This is just the liberals making their life easier by giving
ILLEGALS a LEGAL ID. Try this in Mexico and see how far you get as an
American down there illegally....


Being an illegal alien in Mexico is a felony. Mexico puts illegals in prison when they are caught sneaking in from South America on their way to The U..S. I wish The U.S. would adopt the immigration laws of Mexico.¯\_à²*_à²*_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Alien Monster

micky January 3rd 16 08:44 AM

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On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 15:46:52 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per Scott Dorsey:
What else are you going do to? Put them in jail? Believe me, living
in an American jail probably beats living in Tegucigalpa these days.
Until it's actually safe to live in Central America and people are able
to make a living doing honest work there, we're going to continue to have
a problem.


I keep hearing that the net Mexico-USA migration is towards Mexico now.


It certainly was, starting a little after the recession started.

Now that the recession is pretty much over, I would think things
could reverse again, although of course they have to make it into the
country again. No small feat.

If that's correct, are the numbers over-ridden by immigration from
Central America ?


I don't know but I don't think the Central American numbers are as
great as the Mexican.

I've heard that when NAFTA was passed, the North American Free Trade
Act, it cost some/quite a few Americans their manufacturing jobs as
Mexicans did it cheaper, but the corn farms in the midwest with their
enormously efficient farm machinery could raise corn a lot cheaper,
and this stopped 10's of thousands of Mexicans from making a living on
the small farms they owned or worked, and that that's why there was
such a burst of Mexicans entering the US after NAFTA.

Googling, these, written in 2014 and 2012, says that very thing:
http://www.politicalresearch.org/201....Ynu1utVN.dpbs
and
http://www.thenation.com/article/how...eat-migration/

micky January 3rd 16 10:38 AM

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 21:03:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/2/2016 7:24 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 14:31:13 -0000 (UTC), Mark Bannon
wrote:

Another new crime!

It's already illegal for car drivers, but if you're on a bicycle,
it's now illegal to use a headset, earplugs or earbuds in both
ears while operating your bicycle.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160SB491
It's in there - buried deep down within the wholly unrelated crap.

(11) Existing law prohibits a person operating a motor vehicle or a
bicycle from wearing a headset covering both ears, or from wearing earplugs
in both ears, subject to certain exceptions.

This bill would also prohibit wearing earphones covering, resting on,
or inserted in, both ears. Because a violation of these provisions would
be a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.


So does this make the use of hearing aids illegal while driving or
bicycling or are they an exemption.

It's all typical stupid big brother gvt assholery.


The government may be stupid, but some cyclists are even stupider.
Riding a bike with loud music in your earbuds is dangerous, but people
do it. Just as dumb, I see people in the dark walking along the roadside
and other riding bikes in the dark with no reflectors or lights.


Most of them. It's so that when I see one with lights, especially a
flashing red light, I'm really impressed.

And the deer too don't do much to keep me from hitting them.

micky January 3rd 16 10:46 AM

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 18:55:29 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 6:30:52 PM UTC-6, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 11:15:34 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 07:19:27 -0800
"Eagle" wrote:

AMuzi laid this down on his screen :
On 1/2/2016 8:42 AM, Mark Bannon wrote:
Just to prove that the state is filled with wackos, starting
January 1st, 2016, California DMV offices will begin issuing
driver's licenses to people in the country *illegally*.

Under AB 60, applicants must prove who they are, that they
live in California and, surprisingly for California, they
must also pass a driving test.

A new law will also provide access to auto insurance.

DMV officials say they expect about 1.4 million *illegal*
cheaters to apply for a driver's license in the first three
years.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=201520160AB60


The last time I had "access to auto insurance" it was $300 cash or
certified check, in person at their offices, for a 30 day policy.
Wonder what these guys will pay, if anything..

I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will attract
many illegals. That would mean they would have to get legal and buy
insurance or have their ride confiscated and them jailed for no
insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of being in country
illegally, so off they go....on foot.
Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!


Yes. This is just the liberals making their life easier by giving
ILLEGALS a LEGAL ID. Try this in Mexico and see how far you get as an
American down there illegally....


Being an illegal alien in Mexico is a felony. Mexico puts illegals in prison when they are caught sneaking in from South America on their way to The U.S. I wish The U.S. would adopt the immigration laws of Mexico.¯\_?_?_/¯


I"m glad to hear that. Because your description of their law, if it
was ever true, is not true for the last 5 1/2 years.

"The new law guarantees that foreigners and Mexican nationals will
receive equal treatment under Mexican law and decriminalizes
undocumented immigration, reducing it to an administrative infraction,
punishable with a fine of up to 100 days' worth of minimum wage.[1]
Under this equality principle all immigrants, regardless of status,
nationality, or ethnicity, are granted the right to education and
healthcare and are entitled to due process. Elements aimed at
promoting family unity were also added. Moreover, before the
government takes action (e.g. deportation) with respect to migrant
children and other vulnerable individuals (women, seniors, the
handicapped and victims of crime), their specific needs must be
prioritized and adequate services must be provided....."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illega...tion_to_Mexico


[8~{} Uncle Alien Monster


burfordTjustice January 3rd 16 01:12 PM

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:25:31 -0500
burfordTjustice wrote:

On 2 Jan 2016 12:12:51 -0500
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

burfordTjustice wrote:
"Eagle" wrote:

I don't think issuing Cali drivers license to illegals will
attract many illegals. That would mean they would have to get
legal and buy insurance or have their ride confiscated and them
jailed for no insurance. You can't jail the buggers because of
being in country illegally, so off they go....on foot.

Put down the pipe and back away.
You stupid ****ing dope head.
They already drive!


That's basically the point of giving them licenses. They are
already driving, so this allows the state to figure out who they
are and keep some degree of control over the process rather than
just throwing their hands up over the matter.

What else are you going do to? Put them in jail? Believe me,
living in an American jail probably beats living in Tegucigalpa
these days. Until it's actually safe to live in Central America and
people are able to make a living doing honest work there, we're
going to continue to have a problem.
--scott


Unless the drivers license lets them vote,
illegals are not going to get one.
Only Calif. liberals think they will


Seems the illegals in Calif. Who get a drivers
license will be able to vote!
https://youtu.be/vuKOTdFltYY

.[_26_] January 3rd 16 02:09 PM

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On 1/2/2016 6:10 PM, Brent wrote:
On 2016-01-02, Mark Bannon wrote:
AB 208, Bigelow. Vehicles: highway: lane use.

Existing law (2015) requires, on a 2-lane highway where passing is
unsafe due to specified reasons, *a slow-moving vehicle* behind
which 5 or more vehicles are formed in a line to turn off the roadway
at the nearest place designed as a turnout or wherever sufficient
area of a safe turnout exists in order to permit the vehicles
following it to proceed.

This bill (2016) requires, on a 2-lane highway where passing is
unsafe due to specified reasons, *any vehicle* proceeding upon
the highway at a speed less than the *normal speed of traffic*
moving in the same direction at that time, behind which 5 or more
vehicles are formed in line, to turn off the roadway at the
nearest place designated as a turnout or wherever sufficient area
for a safe turnout exists.

"slow moving" vs "any vehicle at less than normal speed"
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB208


Creates a catch 22. Going the speed limit is less than the normal speed
of traffic. Going the normal speed of traffic is speeding. Perfect when
combined with the war on some drugs and civil asset forfeiture.


[Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris.
"We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not
a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we
mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any
government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well,
when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares
so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men
to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding
citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind
of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively
interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then
you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's
the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to
deal with.”]

(PeteCresswell) January 3rd 16 02:31 PM

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Per .:
[Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris.


That's pretty good...

Where did it come from ?
--
Pete Cresswell


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