Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/7/2015 2:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free
flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

Would be more amusing if it had been in the *washer* -- a front loader
so you could watch the light as it bounced around in the wash! :

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably
got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

Not much that can break, there. LED's don't care about the sorts
of temperatures you'd find in a dryer -- nor the mechanical abuse.
Switch is actually recessed *in* the back of the flashlight so it's
not subject to much abuse (though the rubber cover might age quicker).

Biggest concern would be the batteries -- leaking prematurely, etc.

[Or, any enamel paint coating on the inside of the dryer drum -- if
you've that sort of dryer -- getting chipped from the contact with the
metal flashlight case]

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 4:17:15 PM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

well it did go thrua front loader, i did wonder about some occasional noise, but was busy with other things

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/7/2015 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


I do two things to those short lights:

1) Grease the tail cap threads.
2) Put the battery pack in backwards
when the unit isn't going to be used
for a while.
3) Get a lot of them and give em away
for Christmas.
4) Write about it on Usenet.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 6:16:48 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 12/7/2015 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


I do two things to those short lights:

1) Grease the tail cap threads.
2) Put the battery pack in backwards
when the unit isn't going to be used
for a while.
3) Get a lot of them and give em away
for Christmas.
4) Write about it on Usenet.

5) Shine it on a book that will teach a
person how to count.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/7/2015 5:16 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 12/7/2015 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free
flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time.
proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


I do two things to those short lights:

1) Grease the tail cap threads.
2) Put the battery pack in backwards
when the unit isn't going to be used
for a while.
3) Get a lot of them and give em away
for Christmas.
4) Write about it on Usenet.


There are 10 kinds of people, those who know binary and those who don't.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/08/2015 12:16 AM, IGot2P wrote:


There are 10 kinds of people, those who know binary and those who don't.



What about the other 1000?

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 11:16:25 PM UTC-6, IGot2P wrote:
On 12/7/2015 5:16 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 12/7/2015 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free
flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time.
proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


I do two things to those short lights:

1) Grease the tail cap threads.
2) Put the battery pack in backwards
when the unit isn't going to be used
for a while.
3) Get a lot of them and give em away
for Christmas.
4) Write about it on Usenet.


There are 10 kinds of people, those who know binary and those who don't.

œŒ.|€¢Í¡Ë˜€¿€¢Í¡Ë˜|.œŒ

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/7/2015 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


They do have a rubber o ring seal on the battery box.
I don't believe Harbor Freight makes any of their own gear.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/7/15 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


Actually they sell tools, I doubt they manufacture them.

--
The press wants every person running for president to be for everything
and to stand for nothing. Just how they roll...
- @chuckwoolery

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 9:17:25 AM UTC-5, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 12/7/15 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


Actually they sell tools, I doubt they manufacture them.


+1

Some of their stuff is fine, works great and is a great deal.
Like ratchet extensions or a breaker bar.
Some other stuff is cheap junk. Example of that is a set of
snap ring pliers I bought. Instead of hardened steel, the tips
were made of metal so soft, they just bent trying to open the
first snap ring. Bought one of their cheap VOMs. It worked fine
for about a year, then started reading 150V, instead of 120V.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 18:21:05 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 6:16:48 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 12/7/2015 4:17 PM, bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry


I do two things to those short lights:

1) Grease the tail cap threads.
2) Put the battery pack in backwards
when the unit isn't going to be used
for a while.
3) Get a lot of them and give em away
for Christmas.
4) Write about it on Usenet.

5) Shine it on a book that will teach a
person how to count.

Maff is hard.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:27:43 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

first snap ring. Bought one of their cheap VOMs. It worked fine
for about a year, then started reading 150V, instead of 120V.

I got one of those VOM's and it just died after about 4 uses. I have a
quality VOM that still works fine after about 40 years. I just bought
this cheap VOM for auto use, because I hate getting my quality VOM
covered with grease and dirt outdoors. I have since bought a $15 VOM at
Walmart and it's been working fine for 2 or 3 years now.

The ONLY tool I bought at HF that has not yet broken is a trailer ball
wrench. It fits both size ball nuts. Basically a big box wrench. Aside
from that, nothing has been worth buying from them. I wont even go into
their stores anymore.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:17:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

I bet you work for HF !!!

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:27:43 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

first snap ring. Bought one of their cheap VOMs. It worked fine
for about a year, then started reading 150V, instead of 120V.

I got one of those VOM's and it just died after about 4 uses. I have a
quality VOM that still works fine after about 40 years. I just bought
this cheap VOM for auto use, because I hate getting my quality VOM
covered with grease and dirt outdoors. I have since bought a $15 VOM at
Walmart and it's been working fine for 2 or 3 years now.

I got one of hte 'free' VOMs to see how well it would work. Only had it a
couple of months. I did compair it to my Fluke and it seems to be good
enough for general work. It will be interisting to see how long it lasts.
It does have one adjustment in it so the first person may need to adjust it.

I have ordered a lot of inexpensive electronic stuff direct from China off
ebay. Surprises me how well it works for the price.

Only other thing I have from them so far is an electric chain saw sharpener.
Kind of chincey plastic, but did seem to work on the 2 chains I have
sharpened. If I was into really using the saws, probably would get one of
the $ 100 name brand ones, but I don't saw much wood.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:13:27 -0600, wrote:

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:17:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

I bet you work for HF !!!

I'll take that bet.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

You are insulting word "excellent" I just throw in a flash light like
that in a dryer doing laundry. in about two hours result will come out.
It costs a buck at $ store.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/8/2015 3:09 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:27:43 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

first snap ring. Bought one of their cheap VOMs. It worked fine
for about a year, then started reading 150V, instead of 120V.

I got one of those VOM's and it just died after about 4 uses. I have a
quality VOM that still works fine after about 40 years. I just bought
this cheap VOM for auto use, because I hate getting my quality VOM
covered with grease and dirt outdoors. I have since bought a $15 VOM at
Walmart and it's been working fine for 2 or 3 years now.

I got one of hte 'free' VOMs to see how well it would work. Only had it a
couple of months. I did compair it to my Fluke and it seems to be good
enough for general work. It will be interisting to see how long it lasts.
It does have one adjustment in it so the first person may need to adjust it.

It's a good/cheap "3 digit meter" :

I have ordered a lot of inexpensive electronic stuff direct from China off
ebay. Surprises me how well it works for the price.

You've obviously never encountered any counterfeit components: blob of
black plastic with leads coming out of it -- but no die inside! :

Only other thing I have from them so far is an electric chain saw sharpener.
Kind of chincey plastic, but did seem to work on the 2 chains I have
sharpened. If I was into really using the saws, probably would get one of
the $ 100 name brand ones, but I don't saw much wood.

I use a cylindrical file and a clip on guide. Takes probably 5 minutes
to "kiss" each tooth (cutter and raker). Biggest time sink is thoroughly
cleaning the chain/bar beforehand. Biggest *risk* is taking the rakers
down to far... :

ObHint: there's a point in the chain that is noticeably different
from all other links. If you start there, you can easily tell when you've
gone full circle -- without having to count teeth!

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

"Don Y" wrote in message
...

I have ordered a lot of inexpensive electronic stuff direct from China
off
ebay. Surprises me how well it works for the price.

You've obviously never encountered any counterfeit components: blob of
black plastic with leads coming out of it -- but no die inside! :

Only other thing I have from them so far is an electric chain saw
sharpener.
Kind of chincey plastic, but did seem to work on the 2 chains I have
sharpened. If I was into really using the saws, probably would get one
of
the $ 100 name brand ones, but I don't saw much wood.

I use a cylindrical file and a clip on guide. Takes probably 5 minutes
to "kiss" each tooth (cutter and raker). Biggest time sink is thoroughly
cleaning the chain/bar beforehand. Biggest *risk* is taking the rakers
down to far... :


I have not gotten any components direct from China. Just a few already built
things for about $ 2 to $ 20.

For some reason I don't seem to be able to sharpen the chain saw very good
with the round file and guide. I bring it in and put it in a vise, sharpen
one side and turn it around to do the opposite tooth.. The $ 30 HF
sharpener does a much beter job for me and the saw cuts a lot beter. I
guess that if I sharpened very many chaines I could get beter at it. Sort
of like the drill bits. I use drill doctor for them. Come to think of it,
the electric sharpener was not much more than the files and guides.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/8/2015 5:33 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

For some reason I don't seem to be able to sharpen the chain saw very good
with the round file and guide. I bring it in and put it in a vise, sharpen
one side and turn it around to do the opposite tooth.. The $ 30 HF

I bring the file/guide out into the yard with me when using a saw.
Thus, I am willing/prepared to sharpen the chain as soon as it
starts feeling "unproductive" (working with a dull chain increases
chance of doing something you may regret!)

Set the saw between my legs ("off") and do all the "left facing"
teeth, manually advancing the chain between each until I've made the full
circuit. Then, switch to the right teeth and repeat the exercise.

Have to remember that the file wears over time, too. So, remove guide and
"roll" the file a quarter turn, or so. Replace file periodically.
(they're inexpensive and save you money/time in the end)

sharpener does a much beter job for me and the saw cuts a lot beter. I
guess that if I sharpened very many chaines I could get beter at it. Sort
of like the drill bits. I use drill doctor for them. Come to think of it,
the electric sharpener was not much more than the files and guides.

I am leary of electric things that claim to sharpen; doing so is
done by removing metal... too easy to get carried away and end up with
"nothing" (I've watched a friend's chef knife grow visibly smaller
over the years as he's constantly "sharpening" it -- with a motorized
sharpener! : )

With the file and guide, I can "kiss" the teeth before they need
"serious attention" and, hopefully, keep the chain sharper and
more productive -- as well as minimizing the risk of getting too
aggressive with a sharpener.

Bottom line is to find a tool/approach with which you're comfortable.
A neighbor doesn't have the discipline to keep his saw sharp. From
time to time, I'll sharpen it for him. Otherwise, he just replaces
it when it gets too "dull" frown

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

Tony Hwang wrote:
bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free
flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time.
proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

You are insulting word "excellent" I just throw in a flash light like
that in a dryer doing laundry. in about two hours result will come out.
It costs a buck at $ store.

I took the load out of the dryer. Flash kight still works. No damage.
Think tumbling cloth protected it from dinged around. That is it.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:12:48 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:27:43 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

first snap ring. Bought one of their cheap VOMs. It worked fine
for about a year, then started reading 150V, instead of 120V.

I got one of those VOM's and it just died after about 4 uses. I have a
quality VOM that still works fine after about 40 years. I just bought
this cheap VOM for auto use, because I hate getting my quality VOM
covered with grease and dirt outdoors. I have since bought a $15 VOM at
Walmart and it's been working fine for 2 or 3 years now.

The ONLY tool I bought at HF that has not yet broken is a trailer ball
wrench. It fits both size ball nuts. Basically a big box wrench. Aside
from that, nothing has been worth buying from them. I wont even go into
their stores anymore.

I bought a whole trailer from them. 4x8 bed. Had it shipped to my
brother in Texas. Box all broken up but everything was there.

Drove it back to Maryland. Then gave it to a friend who put sides on
it, with the brackets it came with, and used it take remodeling trash
from his remodel to his office, where he has dumpster service. Been
used for about 7 years now.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:09:06 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


Only other thing I have from them so far is an electric chain saw sharpener.
Kind of chincey plastic, but did seem to work on the 2 chains I have
sharpened. If I was into really using the saws, probably would get one of
the $ 100 name brand ones, but I don't saw much wood.

Also left-handed drill bits, set of 4. Much cheaper than the other
brand and good enough to drill out specialty screws. Using left-hand
means the screw is likely to unscrew before you drill all the way
through, so you get the shaft and not just the head.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:04:11 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote:

bob haller wrote:
Doing laundry today i somehow washed and dried a harbor freight free flashlight, one of those free ones.,

i found it working well putting out a nice brite light in the dryer,

i had done many loads today, so i doubt it was on the entire time. proably got turned on tumbling in the dryer,

this flashlight was one of thoe alunimum tube ones.

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

You are insulting word "excellent" I just throw in a flash light like
that in a dryer doing laundry. in about two hours result will come out.
It costs a buck at $ store.

The dollar store led lights are definitely not as good as the 9-light
Harbor Freight. NOt all the HF work but more than half.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/8/2015 4:12 PM, wrote:
The ONLY tool I bought at HF that has not yet broken is a trailer ball
wrench. It fits both size ball nuts. Basically a big box wrench. Aside
from that, nothing has been worth buying from them. I wont even go into
their stores anymore.


One friend of mine likes the free LED lights.
Says he used one for about six hours yesterday.
Doing repairs at work. Ran the batteries down,
put alkalines in. Said it was noticably brighter
on alkalines.

Sorry you've had bad experience. I've got a
lot of HF tools. Most of them do OK, for
around the house use.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Harbor freight saw chain sharpener
 

On 12/8/2015 7:16 PM, Don Y wrote:
I use a cylindrical file and a clip on guide. Takes probably 5 minutes
to "kiss" each tooth (cutter and raker). Biggest time sink is thoroughly
cleaning the chain/bar beforehand. Biggest *risk* is taking the rakers
down to far... :

ObHint: there's a point in the chain that is noticeably different
from all other links. If you start there, you can easily tell when you've
gone full circle -- without having to count teeth!

If you can't tell a filed bright shiny tooth
from a dull, oiled, tarnished tooth.....

you're not making any difference at all.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 2015-12-09, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Sorry you've had bad experience. I've got a
lot of HF tools. Most of them do OK, for
around the house use.

Some of it is crap, some is OK, some surprisingly good.

I recently bought a Harbor Freight Pittsurgh Pro 10" locking plier. It
was on sale for something like $7.50 and then 20% off that with a coupon.
It's pretty close overall to new Chinese-made Vise-Grips. (Not quite so
close to the good old American made item.) Pittsburgh Pro seems to be
Harbor Freight's higher-end line for hand tools.

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NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 4:16:39 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:17:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

I bet you work for HF !!!

no I dont........

although I did work for them when setting up the mc knight road store. nice customers, nice management, I enjoyed it.

sadly my bad knee got so bad i couldnt walk and had to quit:(

the flashlight that survivedd both the washer and dryer was absolutely true, i was amazed

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On 12/10/2015 9:54 AM, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 4:16:39 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:17:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

i ws amazed it survived the laundry

I bet you work for HF !!!

no I dont........

although I did work for them when setting up the mc knight road store. nice
customers, nice management, I enjoyed it.

I'd have to agree wrt the staff. I am amazed at how much crap they
put up with from nickel-and-diming customers... the folks who would
try to go through the line with *two* freebie coupons; or, go through
with *one*, then head back around for a second trip for the *second*, etc.

A friend worked at one and had talked w/mgmt to allow us to redeem
multiple coupons for free screwdriver sets; we were hosting developmentally
disabled folks and the "free" tools made it less painful for us when
they'd walk off with them (accidentally). I'm sure HF could afford
the few pennies!

sadly my bad knee got so bad i couldnt walk and had to quit:(

the flashlight that survivedd both the washer and dryer was absolutely true,
i was amazed

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

Oren posted for all of us...


5) Shine it on a book that will teach a
person how to count.

Maff is hard.


Ezpecillie wen itz common corpse.

--
Tekkie

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:02:16 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...


5) Shine it on a book that will teach a
person how to count.

Maff is hard.


Ezpecillie wen itz common corpse.

Saw a real report one time about insolence and refusing an order
written by an employee.

.... I telled him not to do dit but he do dit any who.

Harbor freight makes excellent tools.
 

On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:41:06 -0700, Don Y
wrote:

I am leary of electric things that claim to sharpen; doing so is
done by removing metal... too easy to get carried away and end up with
"nothing" (I've watched a friend's chef knife grow visibly smaller
over the years as he's constantly "sharpening" it -- with a motorized
sharpener! : )

Don't they even sell knives new that are already that shape, that
comes from sharpening? As if having a knife that was sharpened for
hours already will make one a better cook.