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My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently pushed?
Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was thinking of a
thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't think of a
removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any other ideas? I
thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the button's
connections. Only access to the interior is to replace battery. I don't
want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out once when I locked the
key in the car and opens the hatchback. I prefer to keep it on my key
ring or I'll forget it.

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On 3 Dec 2015 16:12:05 GMT, KenK wrote:

My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently pushed?
Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was thinking of a
thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't think of a
removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any other ideas? I
thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the button's
connections. Only access to the interior is to replace battery. I don't
want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out once when I locked the
key in the car and opens the hatchback. I prefer to keep it on my key
ring or I'll forget it.

TIA


Should be able use an epoxy on that button. Make sure it won't melt
the plastic first.
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My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently pushed?
Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was thinking of a
thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't think of a
removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any other ideas? I
thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the button's
connections. Only access to the interior is to replace battery. I don't
want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out once when I locked the
key in the car and opens the hatchback. I prefer to keep it on my key
ring or I'll forget it.

TIA


I have a fob for our Jeep Grand Cherokee. I found the best thing to do
is put the fob in a secure key holder in the house and since you don't
use a purse, put it in your pocket when using that Nissan. I usually
put it in My shirt pocket, or My green eyed brides purse.
I rarely drive that Jeep these days...My Wife has layed claim to it,
and now that $175.00 fob is in Her purse...perminently. lol Now I have
to drive My customized 1968 Chevy C10 short box pickemup truck. Oh
darn....
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On 12/3/2015 9:12 AM, KenK wrote:
My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.


Define "accidentally" -- did you drop it and a rock coincidentally
fell on THAT button? Or, some nearby toddler grabbing at it?

*You* pushed the button. Perhaps thinking it was the "unlock"
button -- or something else.

Our fobs have four buttons: lock, unlock, rear liftgate and panic.
Ignoring the legends printed on them (that last one painted in
RED instead of BLACK), they also have tactile differences;
the liftgate button has a recessed hollow so it's not "flush"
with the fob's surface, like the lock/unlock buttons.

Additionally, the liftgate and panic buttons require a persistent
effort to engage those functions; you have to HOLD the button depressed
for a much longer time than the (momentary) lock/unlock buttons.

The buttons are also different sizes. The panic button is much "thinner"
than the other three -- you have to almost stand your finger upright to
confine your pressure to JUST the button and not find the surrounding
plastic case interfering with your attempts to press it.

Finally, the buttons are in a fixed order: lock, unlock, liftgate... panic.
With just four items, its pretty easy to remember where to push! :

I've attached my fob to a short chain with a clip that is affixed to a
belt loop. I'm not used to carrying it so figured the chain would
help remind me not to take it out of my pocket (while fishing for
spare change, etc.) and FORGET to replace it! This also makes
it easy to find -- fingers follow the chain down into the pocket
until they reach the fob (or, just tug on the chain).

On returning home, I hang the "belt clip" on a hook by the doorway.
Saves me the trouble of searching for it prior to leaving; and,
acts as a reminder on my way out the door.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently pushed?
Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was thinking of a
thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't think of a
removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any other ideas? I
thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the button's
connections. Only access to the interior is to replace battery. I don't
want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out once when I locked the
key in the car and opens the hatchback. I prefer to keep it on my key
ring or I'll forget it.


If you want to disable the panic feature, just weld the button in
the off/released position! : Note that when you try to sell the
vehicle, this will require a replacement -- which will probably come
out of your sale price.

You can also look for a replacement *now* and try to select one that
doesn't have a PANIC function!
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On 12/3/2015 9:12 AM, KenK wrote:
My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors,
lock, & panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed
while I was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me
by beeping the horn and flashing the lights.


Define "accidentally" -- did you drop it and a rock coincidentally
fell on THAT button? Or, some nearby toddler grabbing at it?


Don't know. Was just fumbling for something in one pocket and pulling the
key ring out of the other. Probably somehow pushed the button when I
pulled out the key ring. There is a LOT of stuff on my key ring!

First time in the two years I've owned the car.

*You* pushed the button. Perhaps thinking it was the "unlock"
button -- or something else.

Our fobs have four buttons: lock, unlock, rear liftgate and panic.
Ignoring the legends printed on them (that last one painted in
RED instead of BLACK), they also have tactile differences;
the liftgate button has a recessed hollow so it's not "flush"
with the fob's surface, like the lock/unlock buttons.

Additionally, the liftgate and panic buttons require a persistent
effort to engage those functions; you have to HOLD the button
depressed for a much longer time than the (momentary) lock/unlock
buttons.

The buttons are also different sizes. The panic button is much
"thinner" than the other three -- you have to almost stand your finger
upright to confine your pressure to JUST the button and not find the
surrounding plastic case interfering with your attempts to press it.

Finally, the buttons are in a fixed order: lock, unlock, liftgate...
panic. With just four items, its pretty easy to remember where to
push! :

I've attached my fob to a short chain with a clip that is affixed to a
belt loop. I'm not used to carrying it so figured the chain would
help remind me not to take it out of my pocket (while fishing for
spare change, etc.) and FORGET to replace it! This also makes
it easy to find -- fingers follow the chain down into the pocket
until they reach the fob (or, just tug on the chain).

On returning home, I hang the "belt clip" on a hook by the doorway.
Saves me the trouble of searching for it prior to leaving; and,
acts as a reminder on my way out the door.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently
pushed? Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was
thinking of a thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't
think of a removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any
other ideas? I thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the
button's connections. Only access to the interior is to replace
battery. I don't want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out
once when I locked the key in the car and opens the hatchback. I
prefer to keep it on my key ring or I'll forget it.


If you want to disable the panic feature, just weld the button in
the off/released position! : Note that when you try to sell the
vehicle, this will require a replacement -- which will probably come
out of your sale price.

You can also look for a replacement *now* and try to select one that
doesn't have a PANIC function!




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buy a key safe and attach it to the vehicle somewhere. my step son locked himself out 8 times, bought the emergency keysafe with combination lock, and attached it to the roof rack mount.

no more need to call me with chis reporting he is locked out.....

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On 12/3/2015 11:32 AM, bob haller wrote:
buy a key safe and attach it to the vehicle somewhere. my step son locked
himself out 8 times, bought the emergency keysafe with combination lock, and
attached it to the roof rack mount.

no more need to call me with chis reporting he is locked out.....


I keep a spare key (for my car, no fob) in my wallet. So, if locked
out, I can get in. Hidden *inside* the car is a spare for the trunk.
In that way, I have to misplace my keys (or, lock them inside the car!)
*and* my wallet to be SoL!

(If I've lost my wallet, I have bigger problems than being locked
out of the car!)

We have a similar scheme at home -- with a key buried in the yard
(it's OK for it to be difficult to retrieve it because you're not
supposed to NEED it!)

In each case, an adversary would be unaware of the "hidden" items
so wouldn't even try to locate them!
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On 3 Dec 2015 16:12:05 GMT, KenK wrote:

My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.


Did anyone notice?

I've set my alarm off 3 or 4 times, not that way, but by reaching in
the open window, unlocking the door, and opening the door. The alarm
doesn't count unlocking without a key as disarming it. When I do
that, set off the alarm, I just put in the key and unlock the door and
that turns off the alarm. Anyone who has noticed, notices that the
alarm has quickly stopped, and they figure I made a mistake. They
certainly think that when I get in and drive away.

What's the worse that could happen? If someone acts very quickly and
a cop is nearby and he wants proof I own the car, that's why I carry
my car's registration. What thief would have that? But it's never
happened.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently pushed?
Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was thinking of a


Then it wouldn't work when you or a woman driving your car needed it .
thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't think of a
removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any other ideas? I
thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the button's
connections.


Then it wouldn't work at all.

Only access to the interior is to replace battery. I don't
want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out once when I locked the
key in the car and opens the hatchback. I prefer to keep it on my key
ring or I'll forget it.

TIA

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Finally, the buttons are in a fixed order: lock, unlock, liftgate... panic.
With just four items, its pretty easy to remember where to push! :


But is that binary, base 10, or base 7? Sounds hard to me.
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On 3 Dec 2015 18:18:54 GMT, KenK wrote:

Don't know. Was just fumbling for something in one pocket and pulling the
key ring out of the other. Probably somehow pushed the button when I
pulled out the key ring. There is a LOT of stuff on my key ring!

First time in the two years I've owned the car.


My suggestion is to not worry or be embarrassed about hitting the
panic button and setting off the alarm. No need to alter the FOB.
Stuff happens. If people look at you funny, tell them to get a life.

You're not the first person to do it.

Move along.


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On 3 Dec 2015 16:12:05 GMT, KenK wrote:

My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.


Did anyone notice?


If they did, so what? Does it take any beans off his plate?
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KenK wrote:
My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently pushed?
Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was thinking of a
thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't think of a
removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any other ideas? I
thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the button's
connections. Only access to the interior is to replace battery. I don't
want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out once when I locked the
key in the car and opens the hatchback. I prefer to keep it on my key
ring or I'll forget it.

TIA




You did not push the button again? Usually that will stop the
honking/flashing. I don't even carry key fob in the pocket.
It is in my bag pack. Car won't even let you lock the door if the
key is left inside. If have a remote starter installed, you may have
another fun. Some cars We can't "take away" after car starts remotely
but they are working on this issues for many cars.
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On 12/3/2015 4:14 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

You did not push the button again? Usually that will stop the honking/flashing.
I don't even carry key fob in the pocket.
It is in my bag pack. Car won't even let you lock the door if the
key is left inside.


Car won't let you lock the door if ANY key is inside! I.e.,
even if you have YOUR key on your person, step out of the car and
try to lock it behind you (while another key is inside).

Also discovered that car won't let you lock it if it is
RUNNING -- even if ALL of the keys are "outside"! (Nor
will it let you open liftgate in that scenario)

If have a remote starter installed, you may have
another fun. Some cars We can't "take away" after car starts remotely but they
are working on this issues for many cars.


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On 12/3/2015 5:02 PM, Oren wrote:
On 3 Dec 2015 18:18:54 GMT, KenK wrote:

Don't know. Was just fumbling for something in one pocket and pulling the
key ring out of the other. Probably somehow pushed the button when I
pulled out the key ring. There is a LOT of stuff on my key ring!

First time in the two years I've owned the car.


My suggestion is to not worry or be embarrassed about hitting the
panic button and setting off the alarm. No need to alter the FOB.
Stuff happens. If people look at you funny, tell them to get a life.

You're not the first person to do it.

Move along.


Happens so often it is pretty much meaningless if you really need it.
Same with alarms going off.

I lock my car only in the winter because it has to be locked for the
remote to work. It keeps 12 year olds out of it. The pro can steal you
car with the alarm set parked 5 feet from your house.
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On 12/3/2015 6:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Happens so often it is pretty much meaningless if you really need it. Same with
alarms going off.

I lock my car only in the winter because it has to be locked for the remote to
work. It keeps 12 year olds out of it. The pro can steal you car with the
alarm set parked 5 feet from your house.


Neighbor had his vehicle stolen from out front of his place -- *twice*.

Of course, parking on the street (instead of cleaning all the CRAP out of
your garage) is probably not the best idea!


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On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 14:04:33 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:09:55 -0500, Micky
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On 3 Dec 2015 16:12:05 GMT, KenK wrote:

My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.


Did anyone notice?


If they did, so what? Does it take any beans off his plate?


If you'd read further, you'd have seen that that was my point .

And it's even less important if possible if no one has noticed.
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KenK wrote:
My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors, lock, &
panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed while I
was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me by beeping
the horn and flashing the lights.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently pushed?
Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was thinking of a
thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't think of a
removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any other ideas? I
thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the button's
connections. Only access to the interior is to replace battery. I don't
want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out once when I locked the
key in the car and opens the hatchback. I prefer to keep it on my key
ring or I'll forget it.

TIA




You did not push the button again? Usually that will stop the
honking/flashing. I don't even carry key fob in the pocket.
It is in my bag pack. Car won't even let you lock the door if the
key is left inside. If have a remote starter installed, you may have
another fun. Some cars We can't "take away" after car starts remotely
but they are working on this issues for many cars.


Key fob has two kinda buttons, one you just tap(lock, unlock button) one
you have to push and hold for 2-3 secs.(remote start, panic button,
power trunk, liftgate) to minimize accidental activation.
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Tony Hwang wrote in
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Tony Hwang wrote:
KenK wrote:
My Nissan came with a 'key fob', a 2.5 x 0.75 x 0.5 inch plastic
irregularly-shaped device that has three buttons - unlock doors,
lock, & panic.

Yesterday somehow the panic button somehow accidently got pushed
while I was standing next to the car in a parking lot embarrasing me
by beeping the horn and flashing the lights.

Any suggestions on how to guard this button from being accidently
pushed? Somehow covering the button with something stiff. I was
thinking of a thin metal loop around that part of the fob but can't
think of a removable (in case I sell the car) way to mount it. Any
other ideas? I thought of but can't see any way to remove one of the
button's connections. Only access to the interior is to replace
battery. I don't want to stop carrying the fob - it bailed me out
once when I locked the key in the car and opens the hatchback. I
prefer to keep it on my key ring or I'll forget it.

TIA




You did not push the button again? Usually that will stop the
honking/flashing. I don't even carry key fob in the pocket.
It is in my bag pack. Car won't even let you lock the door if the
key is left inside. If have a remote starter installed, you may have
another fun. Some cars We can't "take away" after car starts remotely
but they are working on this issues for many cars.


Key fob has two kinda buttons, one you just tap(lock, unlock button)
one you have to push and hold for 2-3 secs.(remote start, panic
button, power trunk, liftgate) to minimize accidental activation.


My manual says the Panic only needs 1/2 sec. I like the 2 sec idea much
better but there's no adjustment I'm aware of.



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On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 20:35:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/3/2015 5:02 PM, Oren wrote:
On 3 Dec 2015 18:18:54 GMT, KenK wrote:

Don't know. Was just fumbling for something in one pocket and pulling the
key ring out of the other. Probably somehow pushed the button when I
pulled out the key ring. There is a LOT of stuff on my key ring!

First time in the two years I've owned the car.


My suggestion is to not worry or be embarrassed about hitting the
panic button and setting off the alarm. No need to alter the FOB.
Stuff happens. If people look at you funny, tell them to get a life.

You're not the first person to do it.

Move along.


Happens so often it is pretty much meaningless if you really need it.
Same with alarms going off.

I lock my car only in the winter because it has to be locked for the
remote to work. It keeps 12 year olds out of it. The pro can steal you
car with the alarm set parked 5 feet from your house.


Funny. I drove the wife out today for a list of things, doctor (follow
up for her hip replacement), grocery store, etc.

A car at the grocery store was beeping the horn alarm
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