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Gary[_16_] October 24th 15 08:44 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?

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[email protected] October 24th 15 08:48 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:44:01 +0000, Gary
wrote:

Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


Who is "THEY"?

If you're talking about advertisers, you should know they're only trying
to get into your wallet, and will tell any lie in order to get into it.


trader_4 October 24th 15 08:54 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 3:49:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:44:01 +0000, Gary
wrote:

Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


Who is "THEY"?

If you're talking about advertisers, you should know they're only trying
to get into your wallet, and will tell any lie in order to get into it.


+1

If he has a 92% one that is still working OK, IDK why he thinks he
needs a new one. $8K sounds like furnace plus AC. Maybe the AC died?

Oren[_2_] October 24th 15 09:39 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 12:54:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 3:49:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:44:01 +0000, Gary
wrote:

Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


Who is "THEY"?

If you're talking about advertisers, you should know they're only trying
to get into your wallet, and will tell any lie in order to get into it.


+1

If he has a 92% one that is still working OK, IDK why he thinks he
needs a new one. $8K sounds like furnace plus AC. Maybe the AC died?


My Amana furnace heat exchanger is 10 years old - no wield seams,
stainless steel. Not really a chance for a leak. Maybe they want to
take Gary to the bank?

Ed Pawlowski October 24th 15 10:03 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On 10/24/2015 3:44 PM, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


They can, but it costs more.
How much is a heat exchanger? At 92% not much reason to do more than
replace the exchanger and make it safe again.


philo October 25th 15 02:17 AM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On 10/24/2015 02:44 PM, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?




Maybe you should find another dealer.

Last year I had my 22 year old 80% efficient furnace replace with a 96%
efficiency model and it was only a few hundred more that the one I
bought back then.

It was under $3000 (including installation of course)

Tony Hwang October 25th 15 06:20 AM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/24/2015 3:44 PM, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


They can, but it costs more.
How much is a heat exchanger? At 92% not much reason to do more than
replace the exchanger and make it safe again.

Some heat exchangers are life time warranteed.

trader_4 October 25th 15 12:07 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 2:20:52 AM UTC-4, Tony Hwang wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/24/2015 3:44 PM, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


They can, but it costs more.
How much is a heat exchanger? At 92% not much reason to do more than
replace the exchanger and make it safe again.

Some heat exchangers are life time warranteed.


And some crooks can tell you that the heat exchanger is shot when
there is nothing wrong with it. From the OP, it's not even clear
that anyone has told him anything is wrong.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_16_] October 25th 15 03:52 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On 10/24/2015 12:44 PM, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?

Only a ****ing idiot pays that much for furnace, you poor old sot.

Leisure Suit Larry December 31st 15 10:14 AM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On 10/24/2015 03:44 PM, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


http://www.alpinehomeair.com/viewpro...ctID=453069463

I got a 15-year old Goodman, paid $450, still going strong.

Uncle Monster[_2_] December 31st 15 12:25 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:44:04 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?
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If your furnace has a stainless steel heat exchanger, I'd keep it and have it checked for leakage every year at the start of heating season. I've never seen any stainless steel furnace parts fail due to corrosion. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Stainless Monster

Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_16_] December 31st 15 01:11 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On 10/24/2015 12:44 PM, Gary wrote:
Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?

They got you hook, line, and sinker.
LOL

DerbyDad03 December 31st 15 03:01 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 3:54:47 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 3:49:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:44:01 +0000, Gary
wrote:

Our old Amana 92% after 20 yrs is still working good but they say we
should buy a new one at twice the price of the old one. For this kind of
money around $8000.00 they ought to last atleast 30 yrs! why can't they
make the heat exchangers better?


Who is "THEY"?

If you're talking about advertisers, you should know they're only trying
to get into your wallet, and will tell any lie in order to get into it.


+1

If he has a 92% one that is still working OK, IDK why he thinks he
needs a new one. $8K sounds like furnace plus AC. Maybe the AC died?


Maybe the AC died?

A single post from 2 months ago. Maybe the troll died?

Oren[_2_] December 31st 15 10:34 PM

New gas furnaces are a rip off!
 
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 04:25:19 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:


If your furnace has a stainless steel heat exchanger, I'd keep it and have it checked for leakage every year at the start of heating season. I've never seen any stainless steel furnace parts fail due to corrosion. ?(?)?

[8~{} Uncle Stainless Monster


My furnace heat exchanger is extruded (?) SS. No welds involved. Less
chance of a leak but we have the system serviced and inspected each
year.


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