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Cables wont fit in pipes
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:27:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Lord, this has to be a troll..... |
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On 2015-10-08 3:36 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:27:34 PM UTC-4, wrote: I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Lord, this has to be a troll..... Troll or moron, obviously a larger pipe is required. -- Froz... Quando omni flunkus, moritati |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:58:28 PM UTC-4, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 2015-10-08 3:36 PM, trader_4 wrote: Lord, this has to be a troll..... Troll or moron, obviously a larger pipe is required. -- Froz... Quando omni flunkus, moritati I agree, gotta be a troll. Still it's an interesting problem. I wouldn't take the extra off the insulation though. You already have to derate them putting that many in. Instead, make the pipe bigger. Any pipe with 3/4 ID must have thick walls. So grind away from the inside. Get a length of aircraft cable and a hand winch. Pull lead slugs through with lots of grinding compound. It will take you a long time with increasingly big objects. |
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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Lord, this has to be a troll..... Definitely - he should have said conduit instead of pipe. John T. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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Push a smaller wire thru the pipe, and then use that wire to pull the three wires. The act of pulling the wires will tend to shrink them a little and you just might be able to get the three wires pulled rather than pushed.
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:27:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed If you compress the pipe it will get wider. I did the math for you. Compress the pipe down to 19.324' and it should get wide enough to pull the cables through. Release the compression and it will expand back to it's original length. As always, let us know if our suggestions helped. |
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I wouldn't try this, but I wonder if you heated the entire length of
pipe to 500 degrees , the pipe would expand leaving plenty of room for the wires? |
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"philo" wrote in message On 10/08/2015 02:24 PM, wrote: I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Just use uninsulated (bare) wire sheesh Or use the pipe for ground to eliminate one wire.... ;) |
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On 10/8/2015 3:24 PM, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Sure, needs a self feeding lathe with micrometer adjustable cutter. Any rental store has one you can get, very reasonably, for a day. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Genius Monster |
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On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, wrote: Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Genius Monster I liked the heat answer, better. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Uncle Monster wrote: On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, wrote: Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Genius Monster I liked the heat answer, better. - . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . No one has better things to do or write about? |
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On 10/8/2015 8:44 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: I liked the heat answer, better. . . No one has better things to do or write about? I'd been cleaning my nose with cotton swabs when this came in. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/8/2015 8:44 PM, Tony Hwang wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: I liked the heat answer, better. . . No one has better things to do or write about? I'd been cleaning my nose with cotton swabs when this came in. I have a sudden urge to sneeze and I'm not sure why. -- Maggie |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:37:04 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Uncle Monster wrote: On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, wrote: Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Genius Monster I liked the heat answer, better. - . It works better if you heat the pipe first. Then it will inflate like one of those long party balloons. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Pipe Monster |
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:55:20 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:24:37 -0500, wrote: I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Put the cables in the freezer to shrink them. Or show them a picture of a real ugly woman. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Wired Monster |
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Uncle Monster wrote: On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:55:20 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:24:37 -0500, wrote: I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Put the cables in the freezer to shrink them. Or show them a picture of a real ugly woman. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Wired Monster so you are going to send him a picture of your wife? |
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On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 2:13:11 PM UTC-5, Malcom Mal Reynolds wrote:
In article , Uncle Monster wrote: On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:55:20 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:24:37 -0500, wrote: I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed Put the cables in the freezer to shrink them. Or show them a picture of a real ugly woman. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Wired Monster so you are going to send him a picture of your wife? I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could tolerate me. I can't tolerate crazy women so I guess I'm out of luck. o_O [8~{} Uncle Sane Monster |
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Uncle Monster wrote: Put the cables in the freezer to shrink them. Or show them a picture of a real ugly woman. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Wired Monster so you are going to send him a picture of your wife? I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could tolerate me. I can't tolerate crazy women so I guess I'm out of luck. o_O [8~{} Uncle Sane Monster to everyone else's benefit |
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On 10/09/2015 03:32 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could tolerate me. [8~{} Uncle Sane Monster The perfect woman: 1. She has to look and cook like Giada. 2. She has to be an orphan so there's no mother-in-law / family baggage to deal with. 3. She has to be a licensed contractor in all trades so she can remodel her own damn kitchen and bath. ( The idea here is that she can also do her own damn honey-do list. ) 4. Oh yah, almost forgot, she absolutely has to hate cats, no exceptions! |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:32:06 -0500, Uncle Monster
wrote: I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could tolerate me. I can't tolerate crazy women so I guess I'm out of luck. o_O [8~{} Uncle Sane Monster The crazy ones are more fun. The sane ones let you get into the same routine day after day. -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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On 10/8/2015 12:24 PM, wrote:
My pipe is too small and my wife is forever complaining. LOL |
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On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 4:01:57 PM UTC-4, Tekkie® wrote:
posted for all of us... I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35 millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter. I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an inch or two. The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the lathe, because it flexes too much. Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without removing too much? Ed I cannot believe all the electrons and time wasted on this thread. And yet you joined in. What he is doing is just plain WRONG. I vote troll. -- Tekkie You vote troll, I vote fun. I also vote my "compress the pipe to make it wider" idea as the best. 19.324'. I did the math. |
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