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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed

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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


Lord, this has to be a troll.....
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On 2015-10-08 3:36 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:27:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


Lord, this has to be a troll.....

Troll or moron, obviously a larger pipe is required.

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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:58:28 PM UTC-4, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 2015-10-08 3:36 PM, trader_4 wrote:

Lord, this has to be a troll.....

Troll or moron, obviously a larger pipe is required.

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I agree, gotta be a troll.

Still it's an interesting problem.

I wouldn't take the extra off the insulation though. You already have to derate them putting that many in.

Instead, make the pipe bigger. Any pipe with 3/4 ID must have thick walls. So grind away from the inside.

Get a length of aircraft cable and a hand winch. Pull lead slugs through with lots of grinding compound. It will take you a long time with increasingly big objects.

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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed




Lord, this has to be a troll.....



Definitely - he should have said conduit instead of pipe.
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Push a smaller wire thru the pipe, and then use that wire to pull the three wires. The act of pulling the wires will tend to shrink them a little and you just might be able to get the three wires pulled rather than pushed.
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:27:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


If you compress the pipe it will get wider. I did the math for you.

Compress the pipe down to 19.324' and it should get wide enough to pull the
cables through. Release the compression and it will expand back to it's
original length.

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I wouldn't try this, but I wonder if you heated the entire length of
pipe to 500 degrees , the pipe would expand leaving plenty of room for
the wires?

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On 10/8/2015 12:24 PM, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.


Three densely packed circles (cross section) of 6.5mm dia should require a
circumscribed circle of ~15mm in diameter. (I'd have to do the math for
a more detailed answer) I.e., you shouldn't be having a problem unless
your cables aren't *actually* 6.5mm AS YOU ARE PUSHING THEM.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.


Never push; pull!

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?


You don't want to remove insulation.

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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


Just use uninsulated (bare) wire
sheesh



Or use the pipe for ground to eliminate one wire.... ;)



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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


It isn't as difficult as you might think. The three cables you're
going to be using, I presume will be 120V, 120V and ground,
respectively, right? So why not just completely remove all the
insulation from the cable that will be used as ground? That would be a
lot easier than trying to remove just a little insulation from all of
them.

When you turn on the power your friends will really be impressed how
you solved your problem.
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:36:09 PM UTC-4, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:24:37 -0500, wrote:

I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


It isn't as difficult as you might think. The three cables you're
going to be using, I presume will be 120V, 120V and ground,
respectively, right?


The third wire is the netural, which is a current carrying conductor,
not ground.
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^

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On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^

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I liked the heat answer, better.

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Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure
Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you
need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Genius Monster


I liked the heat answer, better.

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No one has better things to do or write about?

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On 10/8/2015 8:44 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:


I liked the heat answer, better.

.
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No one has better things to do or write about?


I'd been cleaning my nose with cotton swabs when
this came in.


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On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/8/2015 8:44 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:


I liked the heat answer, better.

.
.

No one has better things to do or write about?


I'd been cleaning my nose with cotton swabs when
this came in.



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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:37:04 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/8/2015 7:55 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:27:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


Cap one end of the pipe then connect a tank of extremely high pressure Nitrogen to the other end and expand the pipe to the diameter you need. Be careful not to explode the pipe. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Genius Monster


I liked the heat answer, better.
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It works better if you heat the pipe first. Then it will inflate like one of those long party balloons. ^_^

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On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 2:13:11 PM UTC-5, Malcom Mal Reynolds wrote:
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Uncle Monster wrote:

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:55:20 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:24:37 -0500, wrote:

I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed

Put the cables in the freezer to shrink them.


Or show them a picture of a real ugly woman. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Wired Monster


so you are going to send him a picture of your wife?


I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could tolerate me. I can't tolerate crazy women so I guess I'm out of luck. o_O

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Put the cables in the freezer to shrink them.

Or show them a picture of a real ugly woman. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Wired Monster


so you are going to send him a picture of your wife?


I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could
tolerate me. I can't tolerate crazy women so I guess I'm out of luck.
o_O

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On 10/09/2015 03:32 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could tolerate me.
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The perfect woman:

1. She has to look and cook like Giada.

2. She has to be an orphan so there's no mother-in-law / family baggage to deal with.

3. She has to be a licensed contractor in all trades so she can remodel her own damn kitchen and bath.
( The idea here is that she can also do her own damn honey-do list. )

4. Oh yah, almost forgot, she absolutely has to hate cats, no exceptions!
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I've never been married. I never could find a sane woman who could
tolerate me. I can't tolerate crazy women so I guess I'm out of luck. o_O


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The crazy ones are more fun. The sane ones let you get into
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"Bob F" wrote:
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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch
metal pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my
belt sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to
sand evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem
to find anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested
putting the cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer
off the insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely
in the lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation
without removing too much?


You don't push cables through, you pull them through. Try pulling 2 first, then
pull the well lubricated third. You could have a helper use a wood plane on the
third (ground) wire to shave off a little where it hits the pipe wall as you
pull it.


The problem is they tend to spread out. Tightly wrap the three with some
strong thin cord, lubricate, and pull through.

Greg
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My pipe is too small and my wife is forever complaining.

LOL



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I have to shove THREE service entrance wire cables thru a 3/4 inch metal
pipe. The cables measure 6.5 millimeters each. (1/4) inch = 6.35
millimeters, so they are slightly bigger than 1/4 inch in diameter.

I thought by applying a lot of pressure and using a lubricant I could
force them thru this pipe, but I cant seem to get them in more than an
inch or two.

The pipe is exactly measured at 3/4 inch on the inside. The wires have
to go thru about 20 feet of pipe. I determined that I need to remove
about 10% of the insulation from each cable. I can do this with my belt
sander, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the sander to sand
evenly around the entire diameter of these cables. I cant seem to find
anything made to sand round objects. My father suggested putting the
cables in my wood lathe and just taking off a thin layer off the
insulation, but I cant find a way to mount the cable securely in the
lathe, because it flexes too much.

Does anyone know a better way to remove some of that insulation without
removing too much?

Ed


I cannot believe all the electrons and time wasted on this thread.


And yet you joined in.


What he is doing is just plain WRONG. I vote troll.

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I also vote my "compress the pipe to make it wider" idea as the best. 19.324'. I did the math.
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