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Muggles July 20th 15 05:07 PM

Super glue
 
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution someone
mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember exactly what
the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of the applicator?
I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue, but I was hoping
someone would have a solution.

--
Maggie

Uncle Monster[_2_] July 20th 15 06:08 PM

Super glue
 
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:08:00 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution someone
mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember exactly what
the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of the applicator?
I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue, but I was hoping
someone would have a solution.

--
Maggie


Put a pin from a pincushion in the tip and that usually helps. As long as you keep moisture and O2 away from the glue it will last for a while. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Super Monster

dadiOH[_3_] July 20th 15 06:16 PM

Super glue
 
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:08:00 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from
hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone
mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember exactly what
the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of the applicator?
I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue, but I was hoping
someone would have a solution.

--
Maggie


Put a pin from a pincushion in the tip and that usually helps. As
long as you keep moisture and O2 away from the glue it will last for
a while. ^_^


I tried that. Once. I wound up with a headless pin glued into the nozzle.
It was headless because the little plastic ball came off when I resorted to
pliers trying to get the pin out.



Oren[_2_] July 20th 15 06:19 PM

Super glue
 
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:08:39 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:08:00 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution someone
mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember exactly what
the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of the applicator?
I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue, but I was hoping
someone would have a solution.

--
Maggie


Put a pin from a pincushion in the tip and that usually helps. As long as you keep moisture and O2 away from the glue it will last for a while. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Super Monster


I do similar with partially used caulk tubes. A 4" screw in the tip &
duct tape around the end.. It will help when caulk dries and you can
pull it out.

I've seen UV activated glue that cures, instantly, when the light is
used. https://tinyurl.com/ogef3j6 Used in medical devices and
jewlery work for example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-activated_resin

dadiOH[_3_] July 20th 15 06:19 PM

Super glue
 
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)

Oil won't work. It will help if you squeeze the tube to get as much air out
as possible before you cap it. Be sure to wipe off any squeeze out before
capping. I always keep unopened tubes in the fridge, sometimes opened ones
too, no idea if it helps but it makes me think I am doing something.



dpb July 20th 15 06:30 PM

Super glue
 
On 07/20/2015 12:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)


Simple--use a little acetone to clean the tip before storing (most nail
polish remover is acetone for OP around the house available). At most
you'll have a small-enough plug it's simple to remove.

Oil won't work. It will help if you squeeze the tube to get as much air out
as possible before you cap it. Be sure to wipe off any squeeze out before
capping. I always keep unopened tubes in the fridge, sometimes opened ones
too, no idea if it helps but it makes me think I am doing something.


I think it helps; I have a small prescription bottle of just about the
size that will hold two tubes; I've kept it usable even after opened for
well over a year--even that one surprised me as I recall thinking when
the need arose it was so old as to probably be useless but was just fine.

--



Muggles July 20th 15 06:35 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 12:08 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:08:00 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution someone
mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember exactly what
the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of the applicator?
I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue, but I was hoping
someone would have a solution.

--
Maggie


Put a pin from a pincushion in the tip and that usually helps. As long as you keep moisture and O2 away from the glue it will last for a while. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Super Monster


OK ... pins I got!

--
Maggie

Muggles July 20th 15 06:37 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 12:16 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:08:00 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from
hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone
mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember exactly what
the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of the applicator?
I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue, but I was hoping
someone would have a solution.

--
Maggie


Put a pin from a pincushion in the tip and that usually helps. As
long as you keep moisture and O2 away from the glue it will last for
a while. ^_^


I tried that. Once. I wound up with a headless pin glued into the nozzle.
It was headless because the little plastic ball came off when I resorted to
pliers trying to get the pin out.



uhoh ...

--
Maggie

Muggles July 20th 15 06:38 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 12:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)

Oil won't work. It will help if you squeeze the tube to get as much air out
as possible before you cap it. Be sure to wipe off any squeeze out before
capping. I always keep unopened tubes in the fridge, sometimes opened ones
too, no idea if it helps but it makes me think I am doing something.



haha I just opened the tube that I put the pin in and the little ball
on the pin got stuck in the top of the glue lid. I had to get the pliers
to pull out the pin shaft from the glue nozzle. Bummer.

--
Maggie

Muggles July 20th 15 06:40 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 12:30 PM, dpb wrote:
On 07/20/2015 12:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)


Simple--use a little acetone to clean the tip before storing (most nail
polish remover is acetone for OP around the house available). At most
you'll have a small-enough plug it's simple to remove.

Oil won't work. It will help if you squeeze the tube to get as much
air out
as possible before you cap it. Be sure to wipe off any squeeze out
before
capping. I always keep unopened tubes in the fridge, sometimes opened
ones
too, no idea if it helps but it makes me think I am doing something.


I think it helps; I have a small prescription bottle of just about the
size that will hold two tubes; I've kept it usable even after opened for
well over a year--even that one surprised me as I recall thinking when
the need arose it was so old as to probably be useless but was just fine.


So, does oil work?


--
Maggie

Col. Edmund J. Burke[_9_] July 20th 15 06:46 PM

Super glue
 
"Muggles" wrote in message ...

haha I just opened the tube that I put the pin in and the little ball
on the pin got stuck in the top of the glue lid. I had to get the pliers
to pull out the pin shaft from the glue nozzle. Bummer.

--
Maggie


Maggie? So now you understand that most of these folks here is FULLA ****.
LOL

Uncle Monster[_2_] July 20th 15 06:50 PM

Super glue
 
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 12:16:40 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 11:08:00 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from
hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone
mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember exactly what
the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of the applicator?
I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue, but I was hoping
someone would have a solution.

--
Maggie


Put a pin from a pincushion in the tip and that usually helps. As
long as you keep moisture and O2 away from the glue it will last for
a while. ^_^


I tried that. Once. I wound up with a headless pin glued into the nozzle.
It was headless because the little plastic ball came off when I resorted to
pliers trying to get the pin out.


I use the nail head pins. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Super Monster

Uncle Monster[_2_] July 20th 15 06:55 PM

Super glue
 
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 12:39:00 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 7/20/2015 12:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)

Oil won't work. It will help if you squeeze the tube to get as much air out
as possible before you cap it. Be sure to wipe off any squeeze out before
capping. I always keep unopened tubes in the fridge, sometimes opened ones
too, no idea if it helps but it makes me think I am doing something.



haha I just opened the tube that I put the pin in and the little ball
on the pin got stuck in the top of the glue lid. I had to get the pliers
to pull out the pin shaft from the glue nozzle. Bummer.

--
Maggie


Use the nail head pins, not those with the plastic balls. If the the plastic ball head is all you have, don't push it in all the way. Leave some metal exposed. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Pin Monster

Terry Coombs[_2_] July 20th 15 08:23 PM

Super glue
 
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


Wipe the excess off with a dab of acetone (nail polish remover) , screw
the cap on , and store it with the cap up . I have a bottle of the thicker
stuff with a push-release valve in the tip that's at least a couple of years
old , still good . A tube of the cheap stuff somewhere here on my
(cluttered) desk is still good after at least 6 months .

--
Snag



Muggles July 20th 15 08:37 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 2:23 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


Wipe the excess off with a dab of acetone (nail polish remover) , screw
the cap on , and store it with the cap up . I have a bottle of the thicker
stuff with a push-release valve in the tip that's at least a couple of years
old , still good . A tube of the cheap stuff somewhere here on my
(cluttered) desk is still good after at least 6 months .


I have been storing the used portions upright, but it still gets the
hard clog in the tip end every time no matter what I try.

--
Maggie

Bob F July 20th 15 08:42 PM

Super glue
 
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


I store mine in the fridge, and haven't had a problem.



Muggles July 20th 15 08:57 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 2:42 PM, Bob F wrote:
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


I store mine in the fridge, and haven't had a problem.



I haven't tried the fridge yet. Guess it wouldn't hurt to try it.

--
Maggie

Jon Danniken[_8_] July 20th 15 09:59 PM

Super glue
 
On 07/20/2015 10:19 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use?


You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)


That is the correct answer; for any important application, you spend the
dollar or two and crack open a new tube.

Jon


Muggles July 20th 15 11:27 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 3:59 PM, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 07/20/2015 10:19 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use?


You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)


That is the correct answer; for any important application, you spend the
dollar or two and crack open a new tube.

Jon


hmm I use it for broken finger nails, and don't really use much for each
application. So far I've been able to keep it viable longer this time
by making sure I store it upright. I just have to keep poking a long
needle down the tube to open it up all over again so I can use it when I
need it.

--
Maggie

rbowman[_2_] July 21st 15 05:39 AM

Super glue
 
On 07/20/2015 10:07 AM, Muggles wrote:
I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use?


Back before it became a household product and was just 'Eastman 910' we
kept the bottle in the refrigerator. Right next to everyone's lunch sack
but nobody died afaik.


DerbyDad03 July 21st 15 12:14 PM

Super glue
 
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:27:55 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 7/20/2015 3:59 PM, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 07/20/2015 10:19 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use?

You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)


That is the correct answer; for any important application, you spend the
dollar or two and crack open a new tube.

Jon


hmm I use it for broken finger nails, and don't really use much for each
application. So far I've been able to keep it viable longer this time
by making sure I store it upright. I just have to keep poking a long
needle down the tube to open it up all over again so I can use it when I
need it.

--
Maggie


Have you tried running the needle through before storing it upright? Perhaps that would clear the tube opening before it had a chance to dry.

Muggles July 21st 15 04:08 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/20/2015 11:39 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/20/2015 10:07 AM, Muggles wrote:
I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use?


Back before it became a household product and was just 'Eastman 910' we
kept the bottle in the refrigerator. Right next to everyone's lunch sack
but nobody died afaik.


I don't remember it being called "Eastman 910". Am I dating myself? LOL

--
Maggie

Muggles July 21st 15 05:10 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/21/2015 6:14 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:27:55 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 7/20/2015 3:59 PM, Jon Danniken wrote:
On 07/20/2015 10:19 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Muggles wrote:

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use?

You can't. That's why they sell it in little tubes :)

That is the correct answer; for any important application, you spend the
dollar or two and crack open a new tube.

Jon


hmm I use it for broken finger nails, and don't really use much for each
application. So far I've been able to keep it viable longer this time
by making sure I store it upright. I just have to keep poking a long
needle down the tube to open it up all over again so I can use it when I
need it.

--
Maggie


Have you tried running the needle through before storing it upright? Perhaps that would clear the tube opening before it had a chance to dry.


Yes, I've tried that, too. This last try I used a larger needle,
though, so maybe that'll help.

--
Maggie

Muggles July 21st 15 05:25 PM

Super glue
 
On 7/21/2015 11:03 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:08:34 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/20/2015 11:39 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/20/2015 10:07 AM, Muggles wrote:
I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use?

Back before it became a household product and was just 'Eastman 910' we
kept the bottle in the refrigerator. Right next to everyone's lunch sack
but nobody died afaik.


I don't remember it being called "Eastman 910". Am I dating myself? LOL


"Eastman 910" would be around the late 50s, early 60s. We used to get
it but it was very expensive in those days. "Super glue" showed up
after they lost patent protection and lots of people made it. These
days it is so cheap that I do not really worry about reusing a tube if
it plugs up. Places like Ace will have it in a drop bin, 6 on a card
for a buck on sale or a couple bucks everyday. There is not much in
those tubes but it is usually more than I need at any given time.


I guess for fixing broken nails I just want to be able to use it more
than once because I use so little to fix a nail. I'm doing good keeping
it for just a little while, then, it looks like.

--
Maggie

rbowman[_2_] July 22nd 15 02:29 AM

Super glue
 
On 07/21/2015 09:08 AM, Muggles wrote:
I don't remember it being called "Eastman 910". Am I dating myself? LOL


Probably. That would be the late '60s before it was called 'super glue'
and hit the commercial market. I was able to lure my girlfriend into the
old 'touch you finger to your thumb' trick. Obviously she was gullible;
she eventually married me.

We also used a lot of pourable RTV silicone to make high voltage
capacitors. That was just starting to become widely available too. I
still call it RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) which throws some people.

rbowman[_2_] July 22nd 15 02:36 AM

Super glue
 
On 07/21/2015 10:03 AM, wrote:
"Super glue" showed up
after they lost patent protection and lots of people made it.


iirc Eastman Kodak sold it. There's a company that stumbled over its own
feet more than once.

These
days it is so cheap that I do not really worry about reusing a tube if
it plugs up. Places like Ace will have it in a drop bin, 6 on a card
for a buck on sale or a couple bucks everyday. There is not much in
those tubes but it is usually more than I need at any given time.


That's my tactic most of the time. The CA glues like Hot Stuff that you
can find in hobby shops seem to last longer. I'm not the biggest safety
guy but if you're using a lot of it like to reinforce the wing root on
an R/C model you definitely want good ventilation. It's pretty fierce.


rbowman[_2_] July 22nd 15 02:39 AM

Super glue
 
On 07/21/2015 10:25 AM, Muggles wrote:
I guess for fixing broken nails I just want to be able to use it more
than once because I use so little to fix a nail. I'm doing good keeping
it for just a little while, then, it looks like.


Save your nails, get some pipa picks:

http://www.amazon.com/Model-PP-ST-PK.../dp/B003KGEKZC

If you scroll down, you'll even know what a pipa is.

Muggles July 22nd 15 05:35 AM

Super glue
 
On 7/21/2015 8:29 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/21/2015 09:08 AM, Muggles wrote:
I don't remember it being called "Eastman 910". Am I dating myself? LOL


Probably. That would be the late '60s before it was called 'super glue'
and hit the commercial market. I was able to lure my girlfriend into the
old 'touch you finger to your thumb' trick. Obviously she was gullible;
she eventually married me.

We also used a lot of pourable RTV silicone to make high voltage
capacitors. That was just starting to become widely available too. I
still call it RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) which throws some people.


ahh Learn something knew every day.

--
Maggie

Muggles July 22nd 15 05:37 AM

Super glue
 
On 7/21/2015 8:39 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/21/2015 10:25 AM, Muggles wrote:
I guess for fixing broken nails I just want to be able to use it more
than once because I use so little to fix a nail. I'm doing good keeping
it for just a little while, then, it looks like.


Save your nails, get some pipa picks:

http://www.amazon.com/Model-PP-ST-PK.../dp/B003KGEKZC

If you scroll down, you'll even know what a pipa is.


cool! Many moons ago I played a guitar and used a pick occasionally to
play, but not Pipa picks.

--
Maggie

Tony Hwang July 22nd 15 06:26 AM

Super glue
 
Muggles wrote:
On 7/21/2015 8:39 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/21/2015 10:25 AM, Muggles wrote:
I guess for fixing broken nails I just want to be able to use it more
than once because I use so little to fix a nail. I'm doing good keeping
it for just a little while, then, it looks like.


Save your nails, get some pipa picks:

http://www.amazon.com/Model-PP-ST-PK.../dp/B003KGEKZC

If you scroll down, you'll even know what a pipa is.


cool! Many moons ago I played a guitar and used a pick occasionally to
play, but not Pipa picks.

Crazy glues were even used for stitching wounds aftewr surgery in 'Nam war.
Saved time and lives.

gregz July 22nd 15 07:58 AM

Super glue
 
"Bob F" wrote:
Muggles wrote:
I remember reading a thread about gorilla glue (I think that was the
type of glue), but I can't find the thread.

I was wondering how to keep my tiny tubes of super glue from hardening
at the tip after it's first use? I was going to try the solution
someone mentioned in the gorilla glue thread, but can't remember
exactly what the solutions was... maybe put some oil on the tip of
the applicator? I'm not sure. Maybe it wouldn't work for super glue,
but I was hoping someone would have a solution.


I store mine in the fridge, and haven't had a problem.


Back in the 70s, at a NASA facility, they kept a glass bottle of it in the
fridge. We took it out when we used it. Top had large opening.

Greg

rbowman[_2_] July 22nd 15 03:01 PM

Super glue
 
On 07/21/2015 10:37 PM, Muggles wrote:
cool! Many moons ago I played a guitar and used a pick occasionally to
play, but not Pipa picks.


A couple of weeks ago I went to the Montana Folk Festival. There was the
usual bluegrass, cajun, Acadian, and so forth but there was also
international music. There were five venues and as I walk from one to
the other I heard something interesting, a Chinese string ensemble. A
woman was doing a solo on a pipa and it was fantastic. Then she was
joined by the other two members and they did 'Horse Race' and another
classical number.

I could tell she was using picks but was was also striking down across
the strings for emphasis. I use steel finger picks sometimes with a
guitar and trying to do that usually means the picks go flying off.
After they were done she walked to the front of the stage to talk to
someone and I saw the picks and the strips of adhesive tape holding them
on. Sneaky Chinese!

Actually most of the technique is flicking down with the nail rather
than plucking up.




DerbyDad03 July 22nd 15 04:23 PM

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On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 9:28:34 PM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 07/21/2015 09:08 AM, Muggles wrote:
I don't remember it being called "Eastman 910". Am I dating myself? LOL


Probably. That would be the late '60s before it was called 'super glue'
and hit the commercial market. I was able to lure my girlfriend into the
old 'touch you finger to your thumb' trick. Obviously she was gullible;
she eventually married me.

We also used a lot of pourable RTV silicone to make high voltage
capacitors. That was just starting to become widely available too. I
still call it RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) which throws some people.


We used a lot of RTV (white, right?) when I was in the Coast Guard for sealing cable connectors that were going to be exposed to the elements, as well as for sealing other stuff. It was pretty versatile.

My favorite sealant now is Dow 732, Clear. Waterproof, food safe certified, easy to remove if desired.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#dow-corning...alants/=y5ws6h

Thanks for reminding me...I just ordered a few more tubes.

Muggles July 22nd 15 04:34 PM

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On 7/22/2015 9:01 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/21/2015 10:37 PM, Muggles wrote:
cool! Many moons ago I played a guitar and used a pick occasionally to
play, but not Pipa picks.


A couple of weeks ago I went to the Montana Folk Festival. There was the
usual bluegrass, cajun, Acadian, and so forth but there was also
international music. There were five venues and as I walk from one to
the other I heard something interesting, a Chinese string ensemble. A
woman was doing a solo on a pipa and it was fantastic. Then she was
joined by the other two members and they did 'Horse Race' and another
classical number.

I could tell she was using picks but was was also striking down across
the strings for emphasis. I use steel finger picks sometimes with a
guitar and trying to do that usually means the picks go flying off.
After they were done she walked to the front of the stage to talk to
someone and I saw the picks and the strips of adhesive tape holding them
on. Sneaky Chinese!

Actually most of the technique is flicking down with the nail rather
than plucking up.




I used to love to pick the strings, but I never used the picks you
attach to each finger, so I didn't have that problem of them flying off.
Come to think of it, I only rarely used a pick.

--
Maggie

rbowman[_2_] July 23rd 15 04:22 AM

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On 07/22/2015 09:23 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
We used a lot of RTV (white, right?) when I was in the Coast Guard for sealing cable connectors that were going to be exposed to the elements, as well as for sealing other stuff. It was pretty versatile.


White is right. Years later I used two part silicone for making molds to
pot components but that was a different animal. It was blue but the
color might have been to show both parts were mixed well.

rbowman[_2_] July 23rd 15 04:33 AM

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On 07/22/2015 09:34 AM, Muggles wrote:
I used to love to pick the strings, but I never used the picks you
attach to each finger, so I didn't have that problem of them flying off.
Come to think of it, I only rarely used a pick.


I don't use the metal finger picks very often but they help quite a bit
with a 12 string. Sometimes I'll use a thumb pick alone to accentuate
the bass. Other times I'll use a flat pick. Depends on my mood.

I had a set of aLaska Piks but lost them someplace along the way. I
should get another set. They're very close to using your own nails
rather than the steel picks so it's a mellower sound.

http://www.amazon.com/Alaska-Pik-Fin.../dp/B0002GO512

Muggles July 23rd 15 04:47 AM

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On 7/22/2015 10:33 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/22/2015 09:34 AM, Muggles wrote:
I used to love to pick the strings, but I never used the picks you
attach to each finger, so I didn't have that problem of them flying off.
Come to think of it, I only rarely used a pick.


I don't use the metal finger picks very often but they help quite a bit
with a 12 string. Sometimes I'll use a thumb pick alone to accentuate
the bass. Other times I'll use a flat pick. Depends on my mood.

I had a set of aLaska Piks but lost them someplace along the way. I
should get another set. They're very close to using your own nails
rather than the steel picks so it's a mellower sound.

http://www.amazon.com/Alaska-Pik-Fin.../dp/B0002GO512


It's been so long since I've played it feels like almost a lifetime ago.
I kind of miss it. My dream was to have a 12-string some day, but I
never found the right one. I have small hands and short fingers, so I
can't really play bar chords very well. There just wasn't enough of my
hand to stretch across the frets, but the few times I did play a
12-string I loved the sound and ease of how it played. In college I
played on a classical guitar ensemble and we picked the strings a
particular way which was a bit odd compared to how I'd pick them when
playing contemporary pieces.

Do you play a lot now?

--
Maggie

rbowman[_2_] July 23rd 15 03:08 PM

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On 07/22/2015 09:47 PM, Muggles wrote:
My dream was to have a 12-string some day, but I
never found the right one.


I'd messed around with them but most were pricey for someone who just
plays to amuse himself. Then I saw the Epiphone DR-212 and figured for
$200 I could try it. I've been impressed with the newer Epiphones and
also have a Les Paul by them. That's another guitar I could never
justify buying with 'Gibson' on the headstock. They do good work in
Qingdao or DaeWon. I've got a real Gibson from the '60s when Gibson was
churning out guitars for the folk music fad and it's not the greatest.

I have small hands and short fingers, so I
can't really play bar chords very well. There just wasn't enough of my
hand to stretch across the frets, but the few times I did play a
12-string I loved the sound and ease of how it played.


XXXL paws, so I have the opposite problem. I started mostly with blue
and folk so other than the E pattern I don't do many bars. With big, fat
fingers I can't play an A barred without muting something.

In college I
played on a classical guitar ensemble and we picked the strings a
particular way which was a bit odd compared to how I'd pick them when
playing contemporary pieces.


I never played classical. I played on nylon a couple of times and never
really cared for the sound. Like a banjo, it always sounds better if
someone else is playing it.

Do you play a lot now?


Not as much as I should. For whatever reason, I got interested in the
tin whistle and have been spending more time on it but then I'll take
the tin whistle tunes to the guitar. Unlike harmonicas no way are you
going to do both at once. If I get real ambitious I might lay down the
guitar track and then try to play the whistle over it.




Muggles July 23rd 15 05:17 PM

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On 7/23/2015 9:08 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/22/2015 09:47 PM, Muggles wrote:
My dream was to have a 12-string some day, but I
never found the right one.


I'd messed around with them but most were pricey for someone who just
plays to amuse himself. Then I saw the Epiphone DR-212 and figured for
$200 I could try it. I've been impressed with the newer Epiphones and
also have a Les Paul by them. That's another guitar I could never
justify buying with 'Gibson' on the headstock. They do good work in
Qingdao or DaeWon. I've got a real Gibson from the '60s when Gibson was
churning out guitars for the folk music fad and it's not the greatest.

I have small hands and short fingers, so I
can't really play bar chords very well. There just wasn't enough of my
hand to stretch across the frets, but the few times I did play a
12-string I loved the sound and ease of how it played.


XXXL paws, so I have the opposite problem. I started mostly with blue
and folk so other than the E pattern I don't do many bars. With big, fat
fingers I can't play an A barred without muting something.


I also played piano and the short fingers made it a bit difficult to
stretch to the full octave when playing, but I did have stacked
keyboards for about 10 yrs. and they were much easier to play because
the keys were smaller.

You having XXXL paws probably makes it easier in some ways, but I've
heard other people say they had difficulty playing because of big, fat
finger, too. OH well ... LOL It's fun to at least try. These days
I've resorted to playing my harmonicas.

In college I
played on a classical guitar ensemble and we picked the strings a
particular way which was a bit odd compared to how I'd pick them when
playing contemporary pieces.


I never played classical. I played on nylon a couple of times and never
really cared for the sound. Like a banjo, it always sounds better if
someone else is playing it.


I had a great-uncle who played banjo and when I was a teen he loaned it
to me for about a week, so I've played a banjo for a short few days.
They aren't so hard to play with the smaller neck and closer strings.


Do you play a lot now?


Not as much as I should. For whatever reason, I got interested in the
tin whistle and have been spending more time on it but then I'll take
the tin whistle tunes to the guitar. Unlike harmonicas no way are you
going to do both at once. If I get real ambitious I might lay down the
guitar track and then try to play the whistle over it.



I had to look up 'tin whistle'. It looks similar to a recorder. I've
got one of those that I play occasionally. Are they anything alike in
sound?

--
Maggie

rbowman[_2_] July 24th 15 04:44 AM

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On 07/23/2015 10:17 AM, Muggles wrote:
I also played piano and the short fingers made it a bit difficult to
stretch to the full octave when playing, but I did have stacked
keyboards for about 10 yrs. and they were much easier to play because
the keys were smaller.


I never did anything with keyboards. The city has a thing where pianos
are placed at random locations so I should try (when nobody is around).

finger, too. OH well ... LOL It's fun to at least try. These days
I've resorted to playing my harmonicas.


I've got a few Marine Bands laying around. It's handy since tin whistles
are diatonic too and most tunes work on both.

I had a great-uncle who played banjo and when I was a teen he loaned it
to me for about a week, so I've played a banjo for a short few days.
They aren't so hard to play with the smaller neck and closer strings.


I bought one about 30 years ago. It was a resonator since that was all I
could find. I never thought it sounded right and eventually gave it to a
woman who wanted to learn banjo. I've thought about trying again sometime.

I had to look up 'tin whistle'. It looks similar to a recorder. I've
got one of those that I play occasionally. Are they anything alike in
sound?


They are both fipple flutes but the recorder is chromatic and has a more
complex fingering arrangement. I've got an alto but I haven't done
anything with it lately. Going back and forth is a little more than I
can handle.

http://www.thewhistleshop.com/misc/fingering.htm

That's about as simple as it gets with only C natural being odd. Even
where that shows an open hole for the 2nd octave D, you really can play
it closed and there are other alternative fingerings. Usually there is a
lot of ornamentation. The fingering is completely different from a
bagpipe but a lot of the technique is borrowed from bagpipes. You can
tongue a tin whistle but pipers don't have a way to break a two notes of
the same pitch up so they'll quickly tap a lower note or do a cut, which
is sounding a higher notes. A roll is a combination of the two. It's
really fast and hardly is even a grace note.

The most common key is D because they're often used with fiddles and
fiddlers love D but like harmonics you collect various keys. I've got a
B flat Susato that's plastic and is the closest in sound to a recorder.
The Clarke's are real tin and sound quite different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzh5uq8rkN0

That's got some strings but it's a slow air and there are some closeups
where you can see him doing cuts and taps. He's doing quite a bit of
ornamentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdskdLV4MWY

There's a little less ornamentation there in the intro but when Caitlín
Maude starts to sing you can see where the whistle sort of follows the
vocal style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oUN3OUFW2U

There are a lot of jigs and reels you can play on the whistle and any
good Irish bar band needs one.



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