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I've probably bought at least 30 chainsaws over the years. Many were at
auctions or garage sales and needed work. Some of those I was able to get running, others became boat anchors or got sold at our own sales. Others I bought new. Those generally worked well, but only once!!!! It seems that chainsaws are made to be used once, and thrown in the trash. It dont matter if they were bought new, or use ones that were just rebuilt, they all have one thing in common, THEY ONLY WORK ONCE! I've added gas stabilizer, used costly premium gas without alcohol, tried draining the gas, even blowing out the carb. None of this matters, if the saw is not used for a few weeks or months, it will never run again, (at least not without rebuilding the carb, and probably more repairs). And none of this takes into account the amount of times a person has to pull the string to get that ******* started. It often rivals the amount of strokes your arm would make to use a hand saw. And by the time you do get them started, you're probably too exhausted to cut the damn tree. After spending over $200 to get my Stihl professionally rebuilt, which occurred after I had already spent 3 full days working on it, and at least $50 for parts, I had a well running saw. It started quickly, and I trimmed several branches and cut down a small dead tree in an hour. But it never fails, a few months later we had a bad storm, and there were 7 large trees knocked down. I grabbed the Stihl, and spent 2 hours pulling the string. Thats when I went to the local tool rental place and asked to rent a chainsaw, only to find out they stopped renting chainsaws, because people always brought them back broken. (I asked if that was because of the people, or just an inheritant tendency of all chainsaws to break down after every use). - TIME TO CHANGE - About 8 years ago, I either sold the last of the gas powered chainsaws for parts on Craigslist, or threw them in the trash. I went and bought an electric chainsaw. I was very pleased. It started immediately, was quiet, and worked perfectly after it was not used for months. Aside from needing long cords and not having the longest bars, this seemed to be a dream come true. But there had to be a a flaw I had not yet found. I found it after about a combined use of 8 or 9 hours. THe flaw is that the chains get loose, and soon they come off the bar. Once they are off the bar, they can not be put back without a difficult struggle, which can take hours. After they are put back on the bar, they are never tight, and will come off soon again. This is because these small electric saws dont have a tightness adjuster like the larger gas powered saws have. My last electric saw became useless after probably 10 hours total usage, simply because the chain could no longer be tightened and kept popping off, which cost me at least 2 hours of frustration each and every time, to get it back on, only to find it off the bar again, after a few minutes of use. I finally tossed it in the trash. Now, I am facing the same thing with another saw........ I think my days of chainsaw use and ownership are over! We just had a storm, I am coping with 6 trees down, and doing all the cutting with a sawsall on the smaller branches, and just pushing the trunks into a pile, with my farm tractor, to be burned. If anyone has any other suggestions for cutting up trees, WITHOUT a Chainsaw, please post them! |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:25:56 -0500, wrote:
I've probably bought at least 30 chainsaws over the years. Just shoot yourself. Save us the agony. |
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 1:27:09 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I've probably bought at least 30 chainsaws over the years. Many were at auctions or garage sales and needed work. Some of those I was able to get running, others became boat anchors or got sold at our own sales. Others I bought new. Those generally worked well, but only once!!!! It seems that chainsaws are made to be used once, and thrown in the trash. It dont matter if they were bought new, or use ones that were just rebuilt, they all have one thing in common, THEY ONLY WORK ONCE! I've added gas stabilizer, used costly premium gas without alcohol, tried draining the gas, even blowing out the carb. None of this matters, if the saw is not used for a few weeks or months, it will never run again, (at least not without rebuilding the carb, and probably more repairs). And none of this takes into account the amount of times a person has to pull the string to get that ******* started. It often rivals the amount of strokes your arm would make to use a hand saw. And by the time you do get them started, you're probably too exhausted to cut the damn tree. After spending over $200 to get my Stihl professionally rebuilt, which occurred after I had already spent 3 full days working on it, and at least $50 for parts, I had a well running saw. It started quickly, and I trimmed several branches and cut down a small dead tree in an hour. But it never fails, a few months later we had a bad storm, and there were 7 large trees knocked down. I grabbed the Stihl, and spent 2 hours pulling the string. Thats when I went to the local tool rental place and asked to rent a chainsaw, only to find out they stopped renting chainsaws, because people always brought them back broken. (I asked if that was because of the people, or just an inheritant tendency of all chainsaws to break down after every use). - TIME TO CHANGE - About 8 years ago, I either sold the last of the gas powered chainsaws for parts on Craigslist, or threw them in the trash. I went and bought an electric chainsaw. I was very pleased. It started immediately, was quiet, and worked perfectly after it was not used for months. Aside from needing long cords and not having the longest bars, this seemed to be a dream come true. But there had to be a a flaw I had not yet found. I found it after about a combined use of 8 or 9 hours. THe flaw is that the chains get loose, and soon they come off the bar. Once they are off the bar, they can not be put back without a difficult struggle, which can take hours. After they are put back on the bar, they are never tight, and will come off soon again. This is because these small electric saws dont have a tightness adjuster like the larger gas powered saws have. My last electric saw became useless after probably 10 hours total usage, simply because the chain could no longer be tightened and kept popping off, which cost me at least 2 hours of frustration each and every time, to get it back on, only to find it off the bar again, after a few minutes of use. I finally tossed it in the trash. Now, I am facing the same thing with another saw........ I think my days of chainsaw use and ownership are over! We just had a storm, I am coping with 6 trees down, and doing all the cutting with a sawsall on the smaller branches, and just pushing the trunks into a pile, with my farm tractor, to be burned. If anyone has any other suggestions for cutting up trees, WITHOUT a Chainsaw, please post them! My older brother was in Special Forces during the Vietnam war and he told me about how they downed trees with detonator cord. He said one wrap around a tree trunk would cut through it when set off. When I was a kid out in the country, we blew stuff up all the time. Now the fraking terrorist have ruined the fun we used to have on the farm. o_O [8~{} Uncle Tree Monster |
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Oren wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:25:56 -0500, wrote: I've probably bought at least 30 chainsaws over the years. Just shoot yourself. Save us the agony. |
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 1:27:09 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I think my days of chainsaw use and ownership are over! We just had a storm, I am coping with 6 trees down, and doing all the cutting with a sawsall on the smaller branches, and just pushing the trunks into a pile, with my farm tractor, to be burned. If anyone has any other suggestions for cutting up trees, WITHOUT a Chainsaw, please post them! Call someone to cut-up and haul-away that has a wood burner. I bought a used Pro Mac 10-10 for $25 yrs ago...heavy and loud, but it still works great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjsf0eXA-e8 |
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i wentelectric only over the issues mentioned here. I dont do a lot of chain sawing but wheni do i dont want to be repairing the saw!!!!
so i bought 4 or 5 electrics over the years. when one breaks i just swap saws till the job is done.... |
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On 06/24/2015 03:44 PM, bob haller wrote:
i wentelectric only over the issues mentioned here. I dont do a lot of chain sawing but wheni do i dont want to be repairing the saw!!!! so i bought 4 or 5 electrics over the years. when one breaks i just swap saws till the job is done.... Just had a look at mine...it's a Remington (electric) If the chain does slip off, it only takes a minute to put it back on. If I remember to make sure the bolts are tight before I use it, the chain stays in place. |
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philo wrote in :
On 06/24/2015 03:44 PM, bob haller wrote: i wentelectric only over the issues mentioned here. I dont do a lot of chain sawing but wheni do i dont want to be repairing the saw!!!! so i bought 4 or 5 electrics over the years. when one breaks i just swap saws till the job is done.... Just had a look at mine...it's a Remington (electric) If the chain does slip off, it only takes a minute to put it back on. If I remember to make sure the bolts are tight before I use it, the chain stays in place. I also have a Remington electric that I use for small job. But, just last week the plastic tension adjuster cover, that also covers the rear end of the bar, broke. Along with it went the little plastic stop that holds the steal bolt/nut in place when adjusting tension. Think I'll just get another electric chain saw. |
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On 06/24/2015 08:45 PM, Boris wrote:
philo wrote in : On 06/24/2015 03:44 PM, bob haller wrote: i wentelectric only over the issues mentioned here. I dont do a lot of chain sawing but wheni do i dont want to be repairing the saw!!!! so i bought 4 or 5 electrics over the years. when one breaks i just swap saws till the job is done.... Just had a look at mine...it's a Remington (electric) If the chain does slip off, it only takes a minute to put it back on. If I remember to make sure the bolts are tight before I use it, the chain stays in place. I also have a Remington electric that I use for small job. But, just last week the plastic tension adjuster cover, that also covers the rear end of the bar, broke. Along with it went the little plastic stop that holds the steal bolt/nut in place when adjusting tension. Think I'll just get another electric chain saw. I normally perform all kinds of odd-ball repairs to keep things going...but in the case of a chain saw...where safety is a real issue...I'd probably opt for a new one too. |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:45:26 +0000 (UTC), Boris
wrote: philo wrote in : On 06/24/2015 03:44 PM, bob haller wrote: i wentelectric only over the issues mentioned here. I dont do a lot of chain sawing but wheni do i dont want to be repairing the saw!!!! so i bought 4 or 5 electrics over the years. when one breaks i just swap saws till the job is done.... Just had a look at mine...it's a Remington (electric) If the chain does slip off, it only takes a minute to put it back on. If I remember to make sure the bolts are tight before I use it, the chain stays in place. I also have a Remington electric that I use for small job. But, just last week the plastic tension adjuster cover, that also covers the rear end of the bar, broke. Along with it went the little plastic stop that holds the steal bolt/nut in place when adjusting tension. Think I'll just get another electric chain saw. I have a Remington too. Bought it for very little at a yard sale but had to buy an new oil cap/bulb, and maybe the hand shield. The company had all 2 or 3 parts I needed. Oh, the chain was on backwards too. I'm lucky I thought of that when it wouldn't cut. For a guy who t hought he would never use a chain saw, I've used it quite a bit. One time the snow knocked down a tree over my gate and with the 2 feet of snow and the fence and the gate and part of the tree, if I hadnt' had a chain saw, I couldn't have gotten out of the yard. Another time a 50 foot cottonwood tree fell on my yard, and I certainly don't want other people doing things on my yard. But something made the main case break recently. I plan to glue it. If that doesnt' do it, I'll look into buying a new case. And I have a smaller one that sparked when I bought it, so it was cheap. But if I see one at a yard sale I'll buy that too, and if nothhign works when I need one, I guess I'll buy new. A friend lent me a pole saw which used a Remington one size smaller than mine. The handlet would have fit mine too but would have been heavy and hard to control.. I don't see why the chain woudl come loose on an electric one more than a gas one. |
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On 06/24/2015 10:33 PM, micky wrote:
I have a Remington too. Bought it for very little at a yard sale but had to buy an new oil cap/bulb, and maybe the hand shield. The company had all 2 or 3 parts I needed. Oh, the chain was on backwards too. I'm lucky I thought of that when it wouldn't cut. Pardon the dumb joke: The chain goes one way for cutting the tree down, then you put it on the other way for cutting the tree up! Got that from my Spanish prof when I asked her a question and all she told me was "English is a dumb language" For a guy who t hought he would never use a chain saw, I've used it quite a bit. One time the snow knocked down a tree over my gate and with the 2 feet of snow and the fence and the gate and part of the tree, if I hadnt' had a chain saw, I couldn't have gotten out of the yard. Another time a 50 foot cottonwood tree fell on my yard, and I certainly don't want other people doing things on my yard. But something made the main case break recently. I plan to glue it. If that doesnt' do it, I'll look into buying a new case. And I have a smaller one that sparked when I bought it, so it was cheap. But if I see one at a yard sale I'll buy that too, and if nothhign works when I need one, I guess I'll buy new. A friend lent me a pole saw which used a Remington one size smaller than mine. The handlet would have fit mine too but would have been heavy and hard to control.. Pole saw I finally got a pole saw/pruner Now that is one hell of a great invention~ I don't see why the chain woudl come loose on an electric one more than a gas one. |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 06:09:57 -0500, philo wrote:
The chain goes one way for cutting the tree down, then you put it on the other way for cutting the tree up! Good to know for when I build that shed I've been thinking about. Got that from my Spanish prof when I asked her a question and all she told me was "English is a dumb language" |
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On 06/24/2015 01:25 PM, wrote:
[snip] Aside from needing long cords and not having the longest bars, this seemed to be a dream come true. But there had to be a a flaw I had not yet found. I found it after about a combined use of 8 or 9 hours. THe flaw is that the chains get loose, and soon they come off the bar. Once they are off the bar, they can not be put back without a difficult struggle, which can take hours. After they are put back on the bar, they are never tight, and will come off soon again. This is because these small electric saws dont have a tightness adjuster like the larger gas powered saws have. My first electric chanisaw (Remington?) had that problem. Even at first, I had to adjust the chain frequently. After awhile, I'd just get about 3 seconds of sawing before the chain came off (and it took a lot longer than that to get it back on for another 3 seconds). [snip] -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Well, why did the Puritans come to this country?" a teacher asked his history class. "To worship in their own way and to make other people do the same" was the reply." [Frank Zindler] |
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-7, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 1:27:09 PM UTC-5, wrote: rant from guy who knows nothing about saws deleted My older brother was in Special Forces during the Vietnam war and he told me about how they downed trees with detonator cord. He said one wrap around a tree trunk would cut through it when set off. When I was a kid out in the country, we blew stuff up all the time. Now the fraking terrorist have ruined the fun we used to have on the farm. o_O [8~{} Uncle Tree Monster Yep, back in the day you could walk into any hardware store and buy one or more sticks of dynamite. I liked Dad's method of blowing stumps. He was a firm believer in "if a little is enough, a lot more is better". Wasn't much left to clean up except to fill in the hole when he was done. Harry K |
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 11:27:09 AM UTC-7, wrote:
I've probably bought at least 30 chainsaws over the years. Many were at auctions or garage sales and needed work. Some of those I was able to get running, others became boat anchors or got sold at our own sales. Others I bought new. Those generally worked well, but only once!!!! It seems that chainsaws are made to be used once, and thrown in the trash. It dont matter if they were bought new, or use ones that were just rebuilt, they all have one thing in common, THEY ONLY WORK ONCE! I've added gas stabilizer, used costly premium gas without alcohol, tried draining the gas, even blowing out the carb. None of this matters, if the saw is not used for a few weeks or months, it will never run again, (at least not without rebuilding the carb, and probably more repairs). And none of this takes into account the amount of times a person has to pull the string to get that ******* started. It often rivals the amount of strokes your arm would make to use a hand saw. And by the time you do get them started, you're probably too exhausted to cut the damn tree. After spending over $200 to get my Stihl professionally rebuilt, which occurred after I had already spent 3 full days working on it, and at least $50 for parts, I had a well running saw. It started quickly, and I trimmed several branches and cut down a small dead tree in an hour. But it never fails, a few months later we had a bad storm, and there were 7 large trees knocked down. I grabbed the Stihl, and spent 2 hours pulling the string. Thats when I went to the local tool rental place and asked to rent a chainsaw, only to find out they stopped renting chainsaws, because people always brought them back broken. (I asked if that was because of the people, or just an inheritant tendency of all chainsaws to break down after every use). - TIME TO CHANGE - About 8 years ago, I either sold the last of the gas powered chainsaws for parts on Craigslist, or threw them in the trash. I went and bought an electric chainsaw. I was very pleased. It started immediately, was quiet, and worked perfectly after it was not used for months. Aside from needing long cords and not having the longest bars, this seemed to be a dream come true. But there had to be a a flaw I had not yet found. I found it after about a combined use of 8 or 9 hours. THe flaw is that the chains get loose, and soon they come off the bar. Once they are off the bar, they can not be put back without a difficult struggle, which can take hours. After they are put back on the bar, they are never tight, and will come off soon again. This is because these small electric saws dont have a tightness adjuster like the larger gas powered saws have. My last electric saw became useless after probably 10 hours total usage, simply because the chain could no longer be tightened and kept popping off, which cost me at least 2 hours of frustration each and every time, to get it back on, only to find it off the bar again, after a few minutes of use. I finally tossed it in the trash. Now, I am facing the same thing with another saw........ I think my days of chainsaw use and ownership are over! We just had a storm, I am coping with 6 trees down, and doing all the cutting with a sawsall on the smaller branches, and just pushing the trunks into a pile, with my farm tractor, to be burned. If anyone has any other suggestions for cutting up trees, WITHOUT a Chainsaw, please post them! Yep. Learn to run a saw and something about them. I have had many over the years McCulloch (50s), Homelite (used and new 70s), Jonsered (basket case rehabbed 80s), Stihl beginning in the 80s, Husky (90s), Currently running 5 Stihls from a little 192T (14") up to 441 (32"). Not one of them every gave me a problem starting or keeping the chain on. Been processing a minimum of 10 cords/yr since late 70s. The earlier used saws finally had their life gone and were too far behind the technology to maintain, replaced with better saws. One clue: If it takes more then 3-4 pulls with choke on to "pop" the carb needs attention. Harry K |
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 1:27:09 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I've added gas stabilizer, used costly premium gas without alcohol, tried draining the gas, even blowing out the carb. None of this matters, if the saw is not used for a few weeks or months, it will never run again, (at least not without rebuilding the carb, and probably more repairs). That's partially true, they do need to be used occasionally and not just once a year. My 1st good chainsaw was a Poulan 3400 that I used for 20+ years and never replaced anything except worn out chains from to many sharpenings and a new bar or two. Probably cut a couple of hundred trees with it. My current saw is a Stihl 036 Pro and have been using it for about 8 years. Had to change the pull cord once. I keep a 5yr supply of firewood by using it plus cleanup of downed trees so it gets a good workout. They get used at least once a month, sometimes more, and always start on the 2nd or 3rd pull. The chain needs to be kept tight to keep it from coming off. Depending on the bar, some need to sag less than 1/4", and the Stihl bar is tight + 1/4 turn of the adjustment screw. Electric saws are ok for limbs & saplings but not much more. The 'chainsaw-on-a-stick' pole saws are nice until it gets pinched in a high large limb and you can't get it loose without an extension ladder and choice cuss words. |
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Harry K wrote:
One clue: If it takes more then 3-4 pulls with choke on to "pop" the carb needs attention. Harry K Are you talking with or without primer bulb ? I don't feel bad if mine (no bulb Stihl) starts in 8-10 pulls when it's dead cold . Once fired usually 1 or 2 . -- Snag |
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On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-7, Terry Coombs wrote:
Harry K wrote: One clue: If it takes more then 3-4 pulls with choke on to "pop" the carb needs attention. Harry K Are you talking with or without primer bulb ? I don't feel bad if mine (no bulb Stihl) starts in 8-10 pulls when it's dead cold . Once fired usually 1 or 2 . -- Snag Without. I have only had one saw with a bulb (MS192T). Stone cold in the middle of winter a saw should "pop" with no more than 5. I do have an MS310 that has eaten a couple hundred cords. It has gotten some stubborn occasionally and takes lots of pulls. I don't use it often any more (have better ones) so I haven't done anything about it. Annoying part is it will "pop" after 10-12 pulls and then next time I pick it up weeks later will do it with 2 or 3. Harry K |
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I've probably bought at least 30 chainsaws over the years. Many were at auctions or garage sales and needed work. Some of those I was able to get running, others became boat anchors or got sold at our own sales. Others I bought new. Those generally worked well, but only once!!!! My husqvarna been going on 10 years occasional use. Never drain gas. Always starts up. Never serviced. Greg |
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Harry K wrote:
On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-7, Terry Coombs wrote: Harry K wrote: One clue: If it takes more then 3-4 pulls with choke on to "pop" the carb needs attention. Harry K Are you talking with or without primer bulb ? I don't feel bad if mine (no bulb Stihl) starts in 8-10 pulls when it's dead cold . Once fired usually 1 or 2 . -- Snag Without. I have only had one saw with a bulb (MS192T). Stone cold in the middle of winter a saw should "pop" with no more than 5. I do have an MS310 that has eaten a couple hundred cords. It has gotten some stubborn occasionally and takes lots of pulls. I don't use it often any more (have better ones) so I haven't done anything about it. Annoying part is it will "pop" after 10-12 pulls and then next time I pick it up weeks later will do it with 2 or 3. Harry K Well , I can't complain , this saw was given to me . It needed some work , mostly a carb cleaning and new bar and chain , So far the worst saw I own is the only one I actually bought , but I really can't complain much about that one either . I gave 75 bucks for it used probably 15 years ago . It saw light use mostly until we moved up here and I started heating wirh wood ... now I have 3 , with extra power heads for 2 of them . It's nice to have a spare ready to go if you accidently touch a rock or get the bar bound ! -- Snag |
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"gregz" wrote in message ... wrote: I've probably bought at least 30 chainsaws over the years. Many were at auctions or garage sales and needed work. Some of those I was able to get running, others became boat anchors or got sold at our own sales. Others I bought new. Those generally worked well, but only once!!!! My husqvarna been going on 10 years occasional use. Never drain gas. Always starts up. Never serviced. Greg Same here. Did replace the piston ring before it wore to the point where it could catch the exhaust port. New ring and gasket, $25. You get what you pay for, eih? Great saw.... |
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