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fiberglass tub sinks around drain
I know this has been asked before when using spray foam for bathtub support but hear me out :)
initial problem with tub was that it bowed in the center when in use and would pop back to place minutes after its use. first plumber opened an access hole and stuffed in shims and spray foam along sides fixing some how the issue. of course they did not check around the drain area before closing up the wall and taking off. im assuming they did not fill the tub with water before applying shims and spray foam as it might have lifted the tub slightly causing the right side of the bath tub drain to sink making a bending noise each time some one steps around it. ive uploaded some videos to youtube of the bathtub noise and another video of the first fix. first video; https://youtu.be/hFtYCOS_jpQ second video; https://youtu.be/Fp91BO2O280 spraying additional spray foam around drain leading to tub drain, would that cause any issues with the drain? stepping on the area inside the tub you can notice the drain move slightly. need added support around that area. any ideas? thanks! -R |
fiberglass tub sinks around drain
On Wed, 20 May 2015 15:12:45 -0700 (PDT), Rafael Anaya
wrote: I know this has been asked before when using spray foam for bathtub support but hear me out :) *snip due to poor word formatting* any ideas? thanks! -R Sounds to me you have a really cheap tub, or else someone using it is way overweight. If the drain flexes, you will eventually develop a leak in the pipes. Solutions are to either get a better tub, or go on a diet. Or just live with it until something breaks and causes a flood, which could lead to more damages to the house. I worked as a did plumber for years and I never saw a tub flex like you explain, nor did I ever see a tub with shims or spray foam under it. |
fiberglass tub sinks around drain
On Wed, 20 May 2015 15:12:45 -0700 (PDT), Rafael Anaya
wrote: I know this has been asked before when using spray foam for bathtub support but hear me out :) initial problem with tub was that it bowed in the center when in use and would pop back to place minutes after its use. first plumber opened an access hole and stuffed in shims and spray foam along sides fixing some how the issue. of course they did not check around the drain area before closing up the wall and taking off. im assuming they did not fill the tub with water before applying shims and spray foam as it might have lifted the tub slightly causing the right side of the bath tub drain to sink making a bending noise each time some one steps around it. ive uploaded some videos to youtube of the bathtub noise and another video of the first fix. first video; https://youtu.be/hFtYCOS_jpQ second video; https://youtu.be/Fp91BO2O280 spraying additional spray foam around drain leading to tub drain, would that cause any issues with the drain? stepping on the area inside the tub you can notice the drain move slightly. need added support around that area. any ideas? thanks! -R Apray in the foam and fill the tub to keep it from lifting. |
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Rafael Anaya typed: I know this has been asked before when using spray foam for bathtub support but hear me out :) initial problem with tub was that it bowed in the center when in use and would pop back to place minutes after its use. first plumber opened an access hole and stuffed in shims and spray foam along sides fixing some how the issue. of course they did not check around the drain area before closing up the wall and taking off. im assuming they did not fill the tub with water before applying shims and spray foam as it might have lifted the tub slightly causing the right side of the bath tub drain to sink making a bending noise each time some one steps around it. ive uploaded some videos to youtube of the bathtub noise and another video of the first fix. first video; https://youtu.be/hFtYCOS_jpQ second video; https://youtu.be/Fp91BO2O280 spraying additional spray foam around drain leading to tub drain, would that cause any issues with the drain? stepping on the area inside the tub you can notice the drain move slightly. need added support around that area. any ideas? Excellent videos. I don't personally know what type of filler is usually used to support underneath a tub, but I guess that spray foam is one option that people use. It also appears that your tub may be on a ground level or concrete floor so you may not be able to access it from underneath. But, given what you wrote and what the videos show, I think if it were me I would open the wall up again and apply more of the same type of spray foam under the drain area that was used around the sides. It seems like it just needs a little more support in that area. I would try not to overdo it and do it in stages so the foam doesn't lift the tub up or cause it to buckle up in that area -- I would just do it in stages, a little at a time. I also don't know whether it would be better to fill the tub with water first or not. My inclination would be to fill the tub and then do the spray foam with the tub full. These are all guesses on my part but maybe others here will know better than me what would work best. Good luck. |
fiberglass tub sinks around drain
On Thu, 21 May 2015 10:31:00 -0400, "TomR" wrote:
In , Rafael Anaya typed: I know this has been asked before when using spray foam for bathtub support but hear me out :) initial problem with tub was that it bowed in the center when in use and would pop back to place minutes after its use. first plumber opened an access hole and stuffed in shims and spray foam along sides fixing some how the issue. of course they did not check around the drain area before closing up the wall and taking off. im assuming they did not fill the tub with water before applying shims and spray foam as it might have lifted the tub slightly causing the right side of the bath tub drain to sink making a bending noise each time some one steps around it. ive uploaded some videos to youtube of the bathtub noise and another video of the first fix. first video; https://youtu.be/hFtYCOS_jpQ second video; https://youtu.be/Fp91BO2O280 spraying additional spray foam around drain leading to tub drain, would that cause any issues with the drain? stepping on the area inside the tub you can notice the drain move slightly. need added support around that area. any ideas? Excellent videos. I don't personally know what type of filler is usually used to support underneath a tub, but I guess that spray foam is one option that people use. It also appears that your tub may be on a ground level or concrete floor so you may not be able to access it from underneath. Three options I've seen. A mortar mix on the dry side and packed in, Plaster of Paris and expanding foam. I use foam on mine - much easier. But, given what you wrote and what the videos show, I think if it were me I would open the wall up again and apply more of the same type of spray foam under the drain area that was used around the sides. It seems like it just needs a little more support in that area. I would try not to overdo it and do it in stages so the foam doesn't lift the tub up or cause it to buckle up in that area -- I would just do it in stages, a little at a time. I installed two metal access panel doors on the exterior stucco wall. One is to replace / repair the motor on a "bubbly tub" and one for access to the tub spout and drain. Always have easy access now, without any demolition on the inside of the house. I also don't know whether it would be better to fill the tub with water first or not. My inclination would be to fill the tub and then do the spray foam with the tub full. Exactly. A tub filled with water does not allow the tub to heave as the foam expands. These are all guesses on my part but maybe others here will know better than me what would work best. Good luck. Good guesses :) |
fiberglass tub sinks around drain
On Thu, 21 May 2015 02:25:44 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 20:48:02 -0400, wrote: Solutions are to either get a better tub, or go on a diet. Or just live with it until something breaks and causes a flood, which could lead to more damages to the house. I worked as a did plumber for years and I never saw a tub flex like you explain, nor did I ever see a tub with shims or spray foam under it. I've seen several acrylic tubs installed with high density spray foam AND shims. They must be selling some real crap tubs..... That was unheard of in the past. There are so many building codes these days, and some of them are darn near senseless. Yet they allow crappy tubs like that.... Dumb, dumber dumbest.... I'd hate to have to try to repair the drain pipes on one of them, and even worse, try to replace one of them tubs. This proves one of the things I always say. OLDER IS BETTER! Lay a layer of poly on the floor before foaming it, and the tub comes out like butter. |
fiberglass tub sinks around drain
On Thu, 21 May 2015 10:31:00 -0400, "TomR" wrote:
In , Rafael Anaya typed: I know this has been asked before when using spray foam for bathtub support but hear me out :) initial problem with tub was that it bowed in the center when in use and would pop back to place minutes after its use. first plumber opened an access hole and stuffed in shims and spray foam along sides fixing some how the issue. of course they did not check around the drain area before closing up the wall and taking off. im assuming they did not fill the tub with water before applying shims and spray foam as it might have lifted the tub slightly causing the right side of the bath tub drain to sink making a bending noise each time some one steps around it. ive uploaded some videos to youtube of the bathtub noise and another video of the first fix. first video; https://youtu.be/hFtYCOS_jpQ second video; https://youtu.be/Fp91BO2O280 spraying additional spray foam around drain leading to tub drain, would that cause any issues with the drain? stepping on the area inside the tub you can notice the drain move slightly. need added support around that area. any ideas? Excellent videos. I don't personally know what type of filler is usually used to support underneath a tub, but I guess that spray foam is one option that people use. It also appears that your tub may be on a ground level or concrete floor so you may not be able to access it from underneath. But, given what you wrote and what the videos show, I think if it were me I would open the wall up again and apply more of the same type of spray foam under the drain area that was used around the sides. It seems like it just needs a little more support in that area. I would try not to overdo it and do it in stages so the foam doesn't lift the tub up or cause it to buckle up in that area -- I would just do it in stages, a little at a time. I also don't know whether it would be better to fill the tub with water first or not. My inclination would be to fill the tub and then do the spray foam with the tub full. That's the only safe way to do it. Don't want the foam jacking up the tub Make sure you leave an escape rout for the expanding foam in case you happen to slightly over-fill it. These are all guesses on my part but maybe others here will know better than me what would work best. Good luck. |
fiberglass tub sinks around drain
On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 3:15:35 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 10:31:00 -0400, "TomR" wrote: In , Rafael Anaya typed: I know this has been asked before when using spray foam for bathtub support but hear me out :) initial problem with tub was that it bowed in the center when in use and would pop back to place minutes after its use. first plumber opened an access hole and stuffed in shims and spray foam along sides fixing some how the issue. of course they did not check around the drain area before closing up the wall and taking off. im assuming they did not fill the tub with water before applying shims and spray foam as it might have lifted the tub slightly causing the right side of the bath tub drain to sink making a bending noise each time some one steps around it. ive uploaded some videos to youtube of the bathtub noise and another video of the first fix. first video; https://youtu.be/hFtYCOS_jpQ second video; https://youtu.be/Fp91BO2O280 spraying additional spray foam around drain leading to tub drain, would that cause any issues with the drain? stepping on the area inside the tub you can notice the drain move slightly. need added support around that area. any ideas? Excellent videos. I don't personally know what type of filler is usually used to support underneath a tub, but I guess that spray foam is one option that people use. It also appears that your tub may be on a ground level or concrete floor so you may not be able to access it from underneath. Three options I've seen. A mortar mix on the dry side and packed in, Plaster of Paris and expanding foam. I use foam on mine - much easier. But, given what you wrote and what the videos show, I think if it were me I would open the wall up again and apply more of the same type of spray foam under the drain area that was used around the sides. It seems like it just needs a little more support in that area. I would try not to overdo it and do it in stages so the foam doesn't lift the tub up or cause it to buckle up in that area -- I would just do it in stages, a little at a time. I installed two metal access panel doors on the exterior stucco wall. One is to replace / repair the motor on a "bubbly tub" and one for access to the tub spout and drain. Always have easy access now, without any demolition on the inside of the house. I also don't know whether it would be better to fill the tub with water first or not. My inclination would be to fill the tub and then do the spray foam with the tub full. Exactly. A tub filled with water does not allow the tub to heave as the foam expands. These are all guesses on my part but maybe others here will know better than me what would work best. Good luck. Good guesses :) I've used plastic access panels that mount flush with a wall to get to wiring or plumbing. Of course the plastic panels don't rust and they're paintable. The panel snaps into its frame or is hinged and easy to open when needed. 8-) http://www.homedepot.com/s/plastic%2...0panels?NCNI-5 http://www.homedepot.com/p/Acudor-Pr...1818/205708775 http://preview.tinyurl.com/n3vc6fk [8~{} Uncle Access Monster |
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