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(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:37:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Why is it, that an Ebay item which is a "BUY IT NOW" will say something like "10 people watching". I can understand this on a "bid" item, but why are they watching the item if they could have already bought it? Is this just some sort of gimmic that ebay uses to make the item look more important than it is? Or maybe the seller does it?????? It seems very stupid either way!!!! Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I would suggest, I don't actually know...this has to do with how many views by eBay members. I bought dozens of items from eBay and have almost always did "Buy it now"...I guess I don't see why this should bother you? |
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I don't know the way ebay does it, but sometimes I will watch an item with a
buy it now. I do this for several reasons. I have not made up my mind to buy it, I want to mark an item while I look for something similar and maybe at a beter price. It makes it easy to find that item if I do decide to buy it. There is one item that I have been watching for a long time. They have lots of them , and I have ordered from them twice over a years period of time. Makes it easy for me to find them again. wrote in message ... Why is it, that an Ebay item which is a "BUY IT NOW" will say something like "10 people watching". I can understand this on a "bid" item, but why are they watching the item if they could have already bought it? Is this just some sort of gimmic that ebay uses to make the item look more important than it is? Or maybe the seller does it?????? It seems very stupid either way!!!! Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. |
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Why is it, that an Ebay item which is a "BUY IT NOW" will say something
like "10 people watching". I can understand this on a "bid" item, but why are they watching the item if they could have already bought it? Is this just some sort of gimmic that ebay uses to make the item look more important than it is? Or maybe the seller does it?????? It seems very stupid either way!!!! Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa
wrote: Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I would suggest, I don't actually know...this has to do with how many views by eBay members. I bought dozens of items from eBay and have almost always did "Buy it now"...I guess I don't see why this should bother you? It dont bother me, it just seems stupid. If I am interested in an item, I just bookmark it, while I look for a better priced one. I ONLY buy "Buy it Now" items. I dont think I have ever won a "bid" item. My internet is too slow to bid at the last moment. |
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(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:37:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Why is it, that an Ebay item which is a "BUY IT NOW" will say something like "10 people watching". Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I shop on eBay quite a bit and just guessing that it's a ploy to make you decide to buy the item RIGHT NOW. Sort of a trick to scare you that one of those 10 people watching that item will buy that it and knock you out of your chance to own it. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann
wrote: On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:37:17 PM UTC-5, wrote: Why is it, that an Ebay item which is a "BUY IT NOW" will say something like "10 people watching". Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I shop on eBay quite a bit and just guessing that it's a ploy to make you decide to buy the item RIGHT NOW. Sort of a trick to scare you that one of those 10 people watching that item will buy that it and knock you out of your chance to own it. Nope. It's legit. When there are "more than 30" avaialble and 5 watching, what are you scared of??????? |
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On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 10:18:08 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:37:17 PM UTC-5, wrote: Why is it, that an Ebay item which is a "BUY IT NOW" will say something like "10 people watching". Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I shop on eBay quite a bit and just guessing that it's a ploy to make you decide to buy the item RIGHT NOW. Sort of a trick to scare you that one of those 10 people watching that item will buy that it and knock you out of your chance to own it. Nope. It's legit. When there are "more than 30" avaialble and 5 watching, what are you scared of??????? i watch buy now occasionally. sometimes i am looking for a better deal, sometimes waitiingon cash to buy something |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:47:23 -0600, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:54:37 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:58:24 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa wrote: Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I would suggest, I don't actually know...this has to do with how many views by eBay members. I bought dozens of items from eBay and have almost always did "Buy it now"...I guess I don't see why this should bother you? It dont bother me, it just seems stupid. If I am interested in an item, I just bookmark it, while I look for a better priced one. I ONLY buy "Buy it Now" items. I dont think I have ever won a "bid" item. My internet is too slow to bid at the last moment. You sure don't have to bid at the last moment to win a bid. You decide how much you are willing to go, at max, and place a bid. Ebay auto-bids for you. Willing to pay 19.99 and current bid is 3.13? Your bid will go in ar $4. Someone else is willing to pay $7, you will end up at $8. Someone else bids 17, your bid goes to 18, and if nobody bids more than $18, you got it for $18. Somebody bids $19.50 at the last minute, your bid hits $19.99 and it's yours. Somebody bids $20 and he gets it. Thats what I do, but those robot bids always seem to bid in the last seconds. The last time I bid on something, a bid was placed with 3 seconds before closing. That outbid me. So, would you have bid higher???? If so, bid higher!!!! As for the "watching" common practice is to "watch" what you are interested in while you look for a better deal. Then you go to your "watch list" and pick the one you want to buy. Ebay lets you know if a "buy it now" or auction item is going to be removed shortly. "bookmarking" does not give you any of those advantages. I suppose so, but I'm on dialup and the bookmarks are quicker than wading thru ebay. I delete old ebay bookmarks later. I probably only buy about 15 to 20 things a year. Mostly just stuff I cant get in a store, like parts for old cars or my 1950's tractor. And maybe some computer part because we have no computer stores around here. When you live in the country, there is no high speed internet and are no computer stores nearby. |
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On 3/30/2015 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:54:37 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:58:24 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa wrote: Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I would suggest, I don't actually know...this has to do with how many views by eBay members. I bought dozens of items from eBay and have almost always did "Buy it now"...I guess I don't see why this should bother you? It dont bother me, it just seems stupid. If I am interested in an item, I just bookmark it, while I look for a better priced one. I ONLY buy "Buy it Now" items. I dont think I have ever won a "bid" item. My internet is too slow to bid at the last moment. You sure don't have to bid at the last moment to win a bid. You decide how much you are willing to go, at max, and place a bid. Ebay auto-bids for you. Willing to pay 19.99 and current bid is 3.13? Your bid will go in ar $4. Someone else is willing to pay $7, you will end up at $8. Someone else bids 17, your bid goes to 18, and if nobody bids more than $18, you got it for $18. Somebody bids $19.50 at the last minute, your bid hits $19.99 and it's yours. Somebody bids $20 and he gets it. Does the bid increment matter? I seem to recall a similar situation where I didn't get the item because I hadn't bid at least $20.50, (in your example) the minimum bid increment. Lower actual bid got it. There also seems to be some odd relationship between when the first bid from that buyer was entered in relation to mine. Thats what I do, but those robot bids always seem to bid in the last seconds. The last time I bid on something, a bid was placed with 3 seconds before closing. That outbid me. As for the "watching" common practice is to "watch" what you are interested in while you look for a better deal. Then you go to your "watch list" and pick the one you want to buy. Ebay lets you know if a "buy it now" or auction item is going to be removed shortly. "bookmarking" does not give you any of those advantages. I suppose so, but I'm on dialup and the bookmarks are quicker than wading thru ebay. I delete old ebay bookmarks later. I probably only buy about 15 to 20 things a year. Mostly just stuff I cant get in a store, like parts for old cars or my 1950's tractor. And maybe some computer part because we have no computer stores around here. When you live in the country, there is no high speed internet and are no computer stores nearby. |
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On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 10:22:33 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
I live in a clearing in the woods 12 miles from a town of less than 3,000 in a pretty isolated area of north central Arkansas . We have at least 2 computer sales/repair shops and I have a 6Mb/s internet connection . I buy a lot of stuff on ebay including this keyboard simply because it's usually cheaper delivered to my door than I can buy it in town . Today I received a pair of carbide scribers that I would have paid double at the local industrial supply . Recently saved several hundred bucks on a DSLR camera ... I buy only BIN and free shipping . -- Snag Maybe you can add to your life story at a later date? |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:54:37 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:58:24 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa wrote: Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I would suggest, I don't actually know...this has to do with how many views by eBay members. I bought dozens of items from eBay and have almost always did "Buy it now"...I guess I don't see why this should bother you? It dont bother me, it just seems stupid. If I am interested in an item, I just bookmark it, while I look for a better priced one. I ONLY buy "Buy it Now" items. I dont think I have ever won a "bid" item. My internet is too slow to bid at the last moment. You sure don't have to bid at the last moment to win a bid. You decide how much you are willing to go, at max, and place a bid. Ebay auto-bids for you. Willing to pay 19.99 and current bid is 3.13? Your bid will go in ar $4. Someone else is willing to pay $7, you will end up at $8. Someone else bids 17, your bid goes to 18, and if nobody bids more than $18, you got it for $18. Somebody bids $19.50 at the last minute, your bid hits $19.99 and it's yours. Somebody bids $20 and he gets it. Thats what I do, but those robot bids always seem to bid in the last seconds. The last time I bid on something, a bid was placed with 3 seconds before closing. That outbid me. As for the "watching" common practice is to "watch" what you are interested in while you look for a better deal. Then you go to your "watch list" and pick the one you want to buy. Ebay lets you know if a "buy it now" or auction item is going to be removed shortly. "bookmarking" does not give you any of those advantages. I suppose so, but I'm on dialup and the bookmarks are quicker than wading thru ebay. I delete old ebay bookmarks later. I probably only buy about 15 to 20 things a year. Mostly just stuff I cant get in a store, like parts for old cars or my 1950's tractor. And maybe some computer part because we have no computer stores around here. When you live in the country, there is no high speed internet and are no computer stores nearby. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann
wrote: I shop on eBay quite a bit and just guessing that it's a ploy to make you decide to buy the item RIGHT NOW. Sort of a trick to scare you that one of those 10 people watching that item will buy that it and knock you out of your chance to own it. --- Thats what I was thinking !!!!! I wanted to buy something thos morning. It had 8 watchers listed. I had to call my bank and transfer funds to the debit card (which I only use online), first, then wait at least 6 hours for the bank to get the funds available on the card (not sure why it takes them that long). I lucked out, the item was not sold, so I got it about 8 hours later. It was a one of a kind used item, so there were not more to choose from. I had actually expected it to be gone by the time the bank got the money transferred. I would never use my *regular* debit or credit card online. Too risky. I just keep this one card for online shopping and never keep more than $10 in it. |
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On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:18:08 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: I shop on eBay quite a bit and just guessing that it's a ploy to make you decide to buy the item RIGHT NOW. Sort of a trick to scare you that one of those 10 people watching that item will buy that it and knock you out of your chance to own it. Nope. It's legit. When there are "more than 30" avaialble and 5 watching, what are you scared of??????? Go back and read my post again. I didn't say it wasn't legitimate nor did I say I was scared of anything. I DID say it may be a ploy by eBay to scare a shopper into buying _r i g h t n o w_ in the hopes they may think the item would be gone if they don't act immediately. I make my own decisions when to buy whether 1 or 10,000 are watching a particular item. |
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IGot2P wrote:
On 3/30/2015 10:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: I shop on eBay quite a bit and just guessing that it's a ploy to make you decide to buy the item RIGHT NOW. Sort of a trick to scare you that one of those 10 people watching that item will buy that it and knock you out of your chance to own it. --- Thats what I was thinking !!!!! I wanted to buy something thos morning. It had 8 watchers listed. I had to call my bank and transfer funds to the debit card (which I only use online), first, then wait at least 6 hours for the bank to get the funds available on the card (not sure why it takes them that long). I lucked out, the item was not sold, so I got it about 8 hours later. It was a one of a kind used item, so there were not more to choose from. I had actually expected it to be gone by the time the bank got the money transferred. I would never use my *regular* debit or credit card online. Too risky. I just keep this one card for online shopping and never keep more than $10 in it. I have been on ebay since 1996 and I watch BIN's a lot. The reason that I do it is because it is something that I want but I think the price is too high so if it goes off unsold it will show me where it it relisted (if it was) and I can go in and see if the price has been lowered and buy it if it has been. One needs strong self control and patience shopping on eBay. Otherwise may spend too much money by impulsive buying or reckless bidding. Next follows buyers remorse. For some items eBay price is quite higher than else where. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:54:37 -0400, wrote:
Ebay lets you know if a "buy it now" or auction item is going to be removed shortly. "bookmarking" does not give you any of those advantages. I used to get a lot more warning emails from ebay than I do now. There was an intervening period when I got the emails but some were late. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:47:23 -0600, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:54:37 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:58:24 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa wrote: Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I would suggest, I don't actually know...this has to do with how many views by eBay members. I bought dozens of items from eBay and have almost always did "Buy it now"...I guess I don't see why this should bother you? It dont bother me, it just seems stupid. If I am interested in an item, I just bookmark it, while I look for a better priced one. I ONLY buy "Buy it Now" items. I dont think I have ever won a "bid" item. My internet is too slow to bid at the last moment. You sure don't have to bid at the last moment to win a bid. You decide how much you are willing to go, at max, and place a bid. Ebay auto-bids for you. Willing to pay 19.99 and current bid is 3.13? Your bid will go in ar $4. Someone else is willing to pay $7, you will end up at $8. Someone else bids 17, your bid goes to 18, and if nobody bids more than $18, you got it for $18. Somebody bids $19.50 at the last minute, your bid hits $19.99 and it's yours. Somebody bids $20 and he gets it. Thats what I do, but those robot bids always seem to bid in the last seconds. The last time I bid on something, a bid was placed with 3 seconds before closing. That outbid me. That happens to me too, but really, one should not be tempted into bidding more just because someone has outbid you. You should know when you start how much it is worth to you, bid that, hope you get it for less, but not bid more just because someone else is bidding more. People, including to a small extent me, don't follow this advice because they get caught up in the spirit of an auction. When I was in college I would go to the police bicycle auctions in Chicago, and I saw people bidding more than the bike cost retail. Either they didn't know, or they got carried away. (I bought about 4 bikes over the years and sold 3 of them for a profit.) As for the "watching" common practice is to "watch" what you are interested in while you look for a better deal. Then you go to your "watch list" and pick the one you want to buy. Ebay lets you know if a "buy it now" or auction item is going to be removed shortly. "bookmarking" does not give you any of those advantages. I suppose so, but I'm on dialup and the bookmarks are quicker than wading thru ebay. I delete old ebay bookmarks later. I probably only buy That's you, but other people use the Watch list for the same purpose. and that was your quesiton. about 15 to 20 things a year. Mostly just stuff I cant get in a store, like parts for old cars or my 1950's tractor. And maybe some computer part because we have no computer stores around here. When you live in the country, there is no high speed internet and are no computer stores nearby. |
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 00:31:38 -0400, micky
wrote: this just some sort of gimmic that ebay uses to make the item look more important than it is? Or maybe the seller does it?????? Watch something and you can see the watch count increase by 1. I don't remember if the watch count increases instantaneously. I think it happens quite soon, like when I reload the page, even if that's immediately. Try it in the middle of the night, and with something no one would ever buy, and you can see the watch count go up. Watch something that no one is watching and you can see the watch count go to 1. That should convince everyone. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 22:33:50 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote: One needs strong self control and patience shopping on eBay. Otherwise may spend too much money by impulsive buying or reckless bidding. Next follows buyers remorse. For some items eBay price is quite higher than else where. Yes, you can see it in the bidding. I don't pay attention to others' bidding, unless it has exceeded what I'm willing to pay. I only snipe items (5 seconds and less), bidding my maximum price. If you're not willing to snipe, almost always somebody will "test" your bid, costing you money. Never had regrets. If you're willing to pay more than me, it's yours. And yes, I've seen items sell for much more than retail price. People "watching" an item is a reflection of how many people have it on their "Watch List." |
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On 3/30/2015 11:33 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
IGot2P wrote: On 3/30/2015 10:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: [snip] One needs strong self control and patience shopping on eBay. Otherwise may spend too much money by impulsive buying or reckless bidding. Next follows buyers remorse. For some items eBay price is quite higher than else where. How true! Secret in bidding is set a limit and exercise self-control to stick to it and/or use sniping software to post your max bid at the last possible second to keep from driving up the price. I've been an avid "eBayer" for years and gotten excellent bargains over those years. In recent years, however, there are sellers there that post "Buy It Now" prices that are easily three to four times suggested retail. Nothing wrong with that since it's all open and up front. I figure their market has to be the clowns who don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain but have heard there are great bargains to be had on eBay. Amazing! |
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On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:31:41 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:35:46 -0600, wrote: Why is it, that an Ebay item which is a "BUY IT NOW" will say something like "10 people watching". I can understand this on a "bid" item, but why are they watching the item if they could have already bought it? Is They're trying to make up their minds. Also, if the page is close or if the browser crashes, you can find the item again by looking in your list of watched items. How else can you easily make a note of what you're interested in? That's how I use it. If I see something I might be interested in, I add it to my watch list. Then it's there, easy to find again. Seems very natural to me. Also from both buying and selling stuff on Ebay, I see no indication that it's being manipulated by Ebay to increase interest. Some sellers might try to do it on the theory that more watchers would cause some people to figure they better buy it. But Ebay has some fairly sophisticated systems in place to detect shill bidding and similar, so I'd think they would catch up with you and boot you before long if you tried to do it regularly. |
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bob_villa wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 10:22:33 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote: I live in a clearing in the woods 12 miles from a town of less than 3,000 in a pretty isolated area of north central Arkansas . We have at least 2 computer sales/repair shops and I have a 6Mb/s internet connection . I buy a lot of stuff on ebay including this keyboard simply because it's usually cheaper delivered to my door than I can buy it in town . Today I received a pair of carbide scribers that I would have paid double at the local industrial supply . Recently saved several hundred bucks on a DSLR camera ... I buy only BIN and free shipping . -- Snag Maybe you can add to your life story at a later date? Maybe you can just scroll past my posts if you don't like what I have to say .. The point was that we have both things Jerry complained about NOT having , and in a small isolated community . -- Snag |
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Moe DeLoughan wrote:
On 3/30/2015 8:58 PM, wrote: It dont bother me, it just seems stupid. If I am interested in an item, I just bookmark it, while I look for a better priced one. I ONLY buy "Buy it Now" items. I dont think I have ever won a "bid" item. My internet is too slow to bid at the last moment. You bookmark it? You're doing it the hard way, dude. This is what the watch list is designed for. When you're interested in an item on ebay, add it to your watch list so you can monitor it. You can add other listings for the same item by other sellers to the list, which makes it simple to compare prices/shipping. It's also a good way to monitor price changes by certain sellers. Yeah , like the seller who jumped the price of the camera I was watching by a hundred bucks the day before I got the money in hand to buy it . -- Snag |
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"micky" wrote in message ... Thats what I do, but those robot bids always seem to bid in the last seconds. The last time I bid on something, a bid was placed with 3 seconds before closing. That outbid me. That happens to me too, but really, one should not be tempted into bidding more just because someone has outbid you. You should know when you start how much it is worth to you, bid that, hope you get it for less, but not bid more just because someone else is bidding more. People, including to a small extent me, don't follow this advice because they get caught up in the spirit of an auction. When I was in college I would go to the police bicycle auctions in Chicago, and I saw people bidding more than the bike cost retail. Either they didn't know, or they got carried away. Fot the bidding auctions I usually wait for the last day or two to see what the bidding is. If more than I think what it is worth to me, I don't bid. If still under, then I put in a bid for the maximum I am willing to pay. Sometimes a winner,sometimes not. Usually within a month or less the same type item will show up again and I will have another chance at it. I did get a couple of things that I did not really want by putting in a low bid and no one else out bid me. Sold some of them at a local flea market for more than I paid. It is interisting to go back and look at the bidding history. I have seen the automatic bidders sent the price way up in the last minuit or so. I learned a lot about the auctiions when I was in junior high school A company ws going out of business near where I live. A friends dad was the manager of the company. So I went to watch. On a set of kitchen knives the price got bidded up and the auction people whispered to each other that the set only cost about $ 15 and the bid was about $ 20. The man in charge said if they were dumb enough to bid that much, that is what it would cost them. |
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On 3/31/2015 9:56 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
I learned a lot about the auctiions when I was in junior high school A company ws going out of business near where I live. A friends dad was the manager of the company. So I went to watch. On a set of kitchen knives the price got bidded up and the auction people whispered to each other that the set only cost about $ 15 and the bid was about $ 20. The man in charge said if they were dumb enough to bid that much, that is what it would cost them. The purpose of an auction is to sell items at the highest possible price, yet a lot of people think it is to get bargains. If you get a very competitive person bidding, they will go high just to win even though the value went by the wayside 5 bids ago. Some people get caught up in the frenzy. I do occasionally buy some BIN stuff if it is something I need at a good price. I had an air compressor down due to a bad solenoid valve. It is a $250 item through the dealer, but was $100 for one with a blemish on the label from an eBay dealer. Could I have bid and got it cheaper? Maybe, but I had a piece of equipment down and could not wait. |
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Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 3/30/2015 11:33 PM, Tony Hwang wrote: IGot2P wrote: On 3/30/2015 10:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: [snip] One needs strong self control and patience shopping on eBay. Otherwise may spend too much money by impulsive buying or reckless bidding. Next follows buyers remorse. For some items eBay price is quite higher than else where. How true! Secret in bidding is set a limit and exercise self-control to stick to it and/or use sniping software to post your max bid at the last possible second to keep from driving up the price. I've been an avid "eBayer" for years and gotten excellent bargains over those years. In recent years, however, there are sellers there that post "Buy It Now" prices that are easily three to four times suggested retail. Nothing wrong with that since it's all open and up front. I figure their market has to be the clowns who don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain but have heard there are great bargains to be had on eBay. Amazing! Hi, It is getting tougher and tougher to find bargains at eBay these days. Some sellers gouge buyers with shipping charge too. Being in Canada now exchange rate sucks. |
(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 20:11:33 -0700, mike wrote:
On 3/30/2015 8:47 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:54:37 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:58:24 -0600, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:22:59 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa wrote: Just curious, if any of you know..... I cound not find anything in the Ebay rules and information about this. I would suggest, I don't actually know...this has to do with how many views by eBay members. I bought dozens of items from eBay and have almost always did "Buy it now"...I guess I don't see why this should bother you? It dont bother me, it just seems stupid. If I am interested in an item, I just bookmark it, while I look for a better priced one. I ONLY buy "Buy it Now" items. I dont think I have ever won a "bid" item. My internet is too slow to bid at the last moment. You sure don't have to bid at the last moment to win a bid. You decide how much you are willing to go, at max, and place a bid. Ebay auto-bids for you. Willing to pay 19.99 and current bid is 3.13? Your bid will go in ar $4. Someone else is willing to pay $7, you will end up at $8. Someone else bids 17, your bid goes to 18, and if nobody bids more than $18, you got it for $18. Somebody bids $19.50 at the last minute, your bid hits $19.99 and it's yours. Somebody bids $20 and he gets it. Does the bid increment matter? I seem to recall a similar situation where I didn't get the item because I hadn't bid at least $20.50, (in your example) the minimum bid increment. Lower actual bid got it. There also seems to be some odd relationship between when the first bid from that buyer was entered in relation to mine. Thats what I do, but those robot bids always seem to bid in the last seconds. The last time I bid on something, a bid was placed with 3 seconds before closing. That outbid me. As for the "watching" common practice is to "watch" what you are interested in while you look for a better deal. Then you go to your "watch list" and pick the one you want to buy. Ebay lets you know if a "buy it now" or auction item is going to be removed shortly. "bookmarking" does not give you any of those advantages. I suppose so, but I'm on dialup and the bookmarks are quicker than wading thru ebay. I delete old ebay bookmarks later. I probably only buy about 15 to 20 things a year. Mostly just stuff I cant get in a store, like parts for old cars or my 1950's tractor. And maybe some computer part because we have no computer stores around here. When you live in the country, there is no high speed internet and are no computer stores nearby. The bid increment does seem to be somewhat arbitrary. |
(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:56:23 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: "micky" wrote in message .. . Thats what I do, but those robot bids always seem to bid in the last seconds. The last time I bid on something, a bid was placed with 3 seconds before closing. That outbid me. That happens to me too, but really, one should not be tempted into bidding more just because someone has outbid you. You should know when you start how much it is worth to you, bid that, hope you get it for less, but not bid more just because someone else is bidding more. People, including to a small extent me, don't follow this advice because they get caught up in the spirit of an auction. When I was in college I would go to the police bicycle auctions in Chicago, and I saw people bidding more than the bike cost retail. Either they didn't know, or they got carried away. Fot the bidding auctions I usually wait for the last day or two to see what the bidding is. If more than I think what it is worth to me, I don't bid. If still under, then I put in a bid for the maximum I am willing to pay. Sometimes a winner,sometimes not. Usually within a month or less the same type item will show up again and I will have another chance at it. I did get a couple of things that I did not really want by putting in a low bid and no one else out bid me. Sold some of them at a local flea market for more than I paid. It is interisting to go back and look at the bidding history. I have seen the automatic bidders sent the price way up in the last minuit or so. I learned a lot about the auctiions when I was in junior high school A company ws going out of business near where I live. A friends dad was the manager of the company. So I went to watch. On a set of kitchen knives the price got bidded up and the auction people whispered to each other that the set only cost about $ 15 and the bid was about $ 20. The man in charge said if they were dumb enough to bid that much, that is what it would cost them. An old auctioneer friend of mine had a saying -"an item is worth exactly what the highest bdder on a particular day is willing to pay - not one penny more, or one penny less" |
(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:14:48 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann
wrote: On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:18:08 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: I shop on eBay quite a bit and just guessing that it's a ploy to make you decide to buy the item RIGHT NOW. Sort of a trick to scare you that one of those 10 people watching that item will buy that it and knock you out of your chance to own it. Nope. It's legit. When there are "more than 30" avaialble and 5 watching, what are you scared of??????? Go back and read my post again. I didn't say it wasn't legitimate nor did I say I was scared of anything. I DID say it may be a ploy by eBay to scare a shopper into buying _r i g h t n o w_ in the hopes they may think the item would be gone if they don't act immediately. I make my own decisions when to buy whether 1 or 10,000 are watching a particular item. A "ploy" suggests an "illegitamate" action and you seemed to have some irational "fear" that they were out to get you. |
(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:13:26 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote: On 3/30/2015 11:33 PM, Tony Hwang wrote: IGot2P wrote: On 3/30/2015 10:57 PM, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:12:08 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann wrote: [snip] One needs strong self control and patience shopping on eBay. Otherwise may spend too much money by impulsive buying or reckless bidding. Next follows buyers remorse. For some items eBay price is quite higher than else where. How true! Secret in bidding is set a limit and exercise self-control to stick to it and/or use sniping software to post your max bid at the last possible second to keep from driving up the price. I've been an avid "eBayer" for years and gotten excellent bargains over those years. In recent years, however, there are sellers there that post "Buy It Now" prices that are easily three to four times suggested retail. Nothing wrong with that since it's all open and up front. I figure their market has to be the clowns who don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain but have heard there are great bargains to be had on eBay. Amazing! What bothers me most is selling prices that are very reasonable - or even unreasonably low, and then insanely exorbitant shipping fees. Something that retails for $20, BIN price of $0.99 and shipping of $60 - for somthing that weighs a few ounces and will fit in a padded 8.5x11 envelope. |
(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On 3/31/2015 11:51 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
Sounds like a real estate business. No inventory and all service. Last house I sold I did it myself and saved the 6 % they charge. Real estate can go either way. The better agents invest their time and their money in advertising. Some will get you a better price than you can do on your own. Buyers want that 6% discount from the FSBO too. Some agents will also try to get you to sell at any price. 6% of a low-ball is better than 6% of nothing. |
(OT) I'm confused - regarding Ebay
On 3/31/2015 12:00 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/31/2015 11:51 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: Sounds like a real estate business. No inventory and all service. Last house I sold I did it myself and saved the 6 % they charge. Real estate can go either way. The better agents invest their time and their money in advertising. Some will get you a better price than you can do on your own. Buyers want that 6% discount from the FSBO too. Some agents will also try to get you to sell at any price. 6% of a low-ball is better than 6% of nothing. The real estate commission is not fixed by law at 6%. Most brokers are willing to take a lower commission except on very low priced properties. You just have to shop around and ask for it. This is especially the case on higher priced properties. In my area, where a 50 year old 2000 square foot tract home sells for $2 million, very few people pay "full commission." 6% would mean $120,000 commission (split four ways). This would be considered insane. 4% is more common. On luxury homes, which can cost three to ten times as much, the commission is even lower. That said, you probably don't get as much for your house when you sell it yourself versus using an agent. |
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