I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you

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in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and
all I have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its
to rotten to jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and
a concrete floor its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank
you

If you just bought this house , you may have recourse on the seller .
Something like this structural deficiency should have been obvious to him
.... if you had the house inspected and the inspecter missed it , he's
probably liable . Or you could be just plain screwed . A whole lot depends
on the circumstances , your contract , and the laws in your area .

--
Snag

On 3/14/2015 7:44 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and
all I have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its
to rotten to jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and
a concrete floor its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank
you

If you just bought this house , you may have recourse on the seller .
Something like this structural deficiency should have been obvious to him
... if you had the house inspected and the inspecter missed it , he's
probably liable . Or you could be just plain screwed . A whole lot depends
on the circumstances , your contract , and the laws in your area .


I agree with what Terry says, but in any case, it can be repaired.
Many ways to add support with laminated beams or even steel. Not being
able to see it, I cannot say what is best. Get someone familiar with
this type of work to check it out.

On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 8:06:52 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/14/2015 7:44 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and
all I have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its
to rotten to jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and
a concrete floor its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank
you

If you just bought this house , you may have recourse on the seller .
Something like this structural deficiency should have been obvious to him
... if you had the house inspected and the inspecter missed it , he's
probably liable . Or you could be just plain screwed . A whole lot depends
on the circumstances , your contract , and the laws in your area .


I agree with what Terry says, but in any case, it can be repaired.
Many ways to add support with laminated beams or even steel. Not being
able to see it, I cannot say what is best. Get someone familiar with
this type of work to check it out.

is it just rot or are termites involved too? if its termites the entire home may me infected

replying to Terry Coombs , i need helo wrote:
snag_one wrote:

If you just bought this house , you may have recourse on the seller .
Something like this structural deficiency should have been obvious to him

... if you had the house inspected and the inspecter missed it , he's
probably liable . Or you could be just plain screwed . A whole lot depends

on the circumstances , your contract , and the laws in your area .
--
Snag


the bad thing is itcwas a asis cash sale

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i need helo wrote:
replying to Terry Coombs , i need helo wrote:
snag_one wrote:

If you just bought this house , you may have recourse on the
seller . Something like this structural deficiency should have been
obvious to him

... if you had the house inspected and the inspecter missed it , he's
probably liable . Or you could be just plain screwed . A whole lot
depends

on the circumstances , your contract , and the laws in your area .
--
Snag


the bad thing is itcwas a asis cash sale

I hope you paid well under market for it . Did you have any idea there were
problems ? As Ed said , it can be repaired , be sure you get it in writing
what will be done and the total cost .

--
Snag

On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 5:44:05 PM UTC-5, in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you

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I once saw a 12"x12"x24'center beam replaced under a 3 story 1858 plantation home, so yours can be done but will be expensive.

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 00:44:01 +0000, i need helo
wrote:

replying to Terry Coombs , i need helo wrote:
snag_one wrote:

If you just bought this house , you may have recourse on the seller .
Something like this structural deficiency should have been obvious to him

... if you had the house inspected and the inspecter missed it , he's
probably liable . Or you could be just plain screwed . A whole lot depends

on the circumstances , your contract , and the laws in your area .
--
Snag


the bad thing is itcwas a asis cash sale
Then you are responsible for the whole repair. Should have checked
before you bought. Hope you didn't pay too much.. You will likely need
to put support beams under the joists with jacks - on both sides of
the beam. You will need to open up the foundation on one end so you
can pull the bad beam out and put the new one in. I suspect you will
require professional help on this job.

replying to bob haller , i need helo wrote:
hallerb wrote:

is it just rot or are termites involved too? if its termites the entire
home
may me infected


i had it checked for termites he said it was from water being in the cross
space its the whole center beam its 28 foot long 3 2x10

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replying to bob haller , i need help wrote:
hallerb wrote:

is it just rot or are termites involved too? if its termites the entire
home
may me infected


i had someone look at it and said it was from water in the crawl space i
just don't know how to lift it safely with it being the whole beam 28
foot long and a jack wont hold it

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replying to Terry Coombs , in need of help wrote:
snag_one wrote:

I hope you paid well under market for it . Did you have any idea there
were
problems ? As Ed said , it can be repaired , be sure you get it in writing

what will be done and the total cost .
--
Snag


I payed 56,000 its worth 142,000 so it was a good deal

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|I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
| have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
| jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
| its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you
|

I would guess that if you're adventurous you
can start by putting temporary beams on either
side, to hold it all up while you replace the main
beam. If you're less adventurous you might want
to call either an experienced house builder or
an engineer.

in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you

Hi,
Trolling?

Mayayana wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and
all I have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its
to rotten to jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and
a concrete floor its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank
you


I would guess that if you're adventurous you
can start by putting temporary beams on either
side, to hold it all up while you replace the main
beam. If you're less adventurous you might want
to call either an experienced house builder or
an engineer.

Another big problem is that usually that main beam also has a load bearing
wall on top of it . He's going to have to take the load off that wall as
well , It MIGHT be better for him to support the bottom floor from the crawl
space , then support whatever the LB wall holds up with supports directly
above those . That should keep the house from imploding while he replaces
the beam . As someone above noted , he may have to bust a hole in the
foundation to insert the new beam . Since it runs from pylon to pylon , he
may be able to replace it in sections .
And address the drainage problem that caused all this to begin with .

--
Snag

On 3/14/2015 10:44 PM, Mayayana wrote:


I would guess that if you're adventurous you
can start by putting temporary beams on either
side, to hold it all up while you replace the main
beam. If you're less adventurous you might want
to call either an experienced house builder or
an engineer.



I'd get the temp beams in now just so I could sleep better while coming
up with a good solution.

LY!!! LY!!!

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learn more about Jesus
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Look in your yellow pages for house mover. They are much more prepared
to deal with the problem and have the jacks and cribbing and good
working knowledge of the issues and have developed ways to accomplish
the task.

On 3/14/2015 5:44 PM, in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you

in need of help
wrote in roups.com:

replying to Terry Coombs , in need of help wrote:
snag_one wrote:

I hope you paid well under market for it . Did you have any idea
there
were
problems ? As Ed said , it can be repaired , be sure you get it in
writing

what will be done and the total cost .
--
Snag


I payed 56,000 its worth 142,000 so it was a good deal


That's funny.

Tony Hwang wrote in
:

in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and
all I have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its
to rotten to jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and
a concrete floor its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank
you

Hi,
Trolling?


Maybe, but if so it's a good one.

On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 10:00:33 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you

Hi,
Trolling?

Agreed..."in need of help", "i need helo", then "i need help"?

"in need of help" wrote
in message oups.com...
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you
Call a professional.

i had someone look at it and said it was from water in the crawl space i
just don't know how to lift it safely with it being the whole beam 28
foot long and a jack wont hold it

Yes, you need help. This is a pretty advanced project for DIY. Doesn't
sound as if you are up for the job. Time to call the pros and get some
estimates. I've not seen your house but it sounds as if you will need to
support the whole house on jacks and then replace the rotten wood. Also ,
fix the water problem.

Dave M.

On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 11:00:33 PM UTC-4, Tony Hwang wrote:
in need of help wrote:
I just got my house to find that the whole center beam is rotten and all I
have is a crawl space so I have to replace the whole beam its to rotten to
jack it they are 2x10 borads on 4 concrete pillars and a concrete floor
its a 2 story house how can I lift this save thank you

Hi,
Trolling?

I think you're probably onto something there.....

replying to DanG , i need helo wrote:
dgriff23 wrote:

Look in your yellow pages for house mover. They are much more prepared
to deal with the problem and have the jacks and cribbing and good
working knowledge of the issues and have developed ways to accomplish
the task.


I got this its not as bad as I thought it was I have a concrete floor and
have about 15 jacksand about five guys give me a hand so it's not going to
be that bad thank you everyone for your help

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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 18:44:01 +0000, i need helo
wrote:

Look in your yellow pages for house mover. They are much more prepared
to deal with the problem and have the jacks and cribbing and good
working knowledge of the issues and have developed ways to accomplish
the task.


I got this its not as bad as I thought it was I have a concrete floor and
have about 15 jacksand about five guys give me a hand so it's not going to
be that bad thank you everyone for your help

Who will be the Safety Officer on site? LOL

In oups.com,
i need helo typed:
replying to DanG , i need helo wrote:
dgriff23 wrote:

Look in your yellow pages for house mover. They are much more
prepared to deal with the problem and have the jacks and cribbing
and good working knowledge of the issues and have developed ways to
accomplish the task.

I got this its not as bad as I thought it was I have a concrete floor
and have about 15 jacksand about five guys give me a hand so it's not
going to be that bad thank you everyone for your help

Seriously? This all sounds somewhat bogus to me.

What State are you in? Did you buy this to live in? Or, did you buy it as
an investment -- as a buy-fix-hold-rent, buy/rehab/flip, or ...?

Are you saying that the moisture problem only caused the 3 2x10 main beam to
rot but none of the other joists attached to that beam have rotted?

You had an "expert" look at it and that person confirmed that it was not
termites, and was water-related rot, but could not tell you what you would
need to do to fix the problem?

And, if all of what you say is true, and you are supposedly going to fix it
yourself, you most likely need an engineer's report and a permit to do the
fix in most places in the U.S.

And, if you do all of that, and the building collapses on your five guys,
you will probably be looking at criminal charges and jail time, plus the
civil liability.

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:42:13 -0400, "TomR" wrote:

And, if you do all of that, and the building collapses on your five guys,
you will probably be looking at criminal charges and jail time, plus the
civil liability.

Ease up a bit Tom. Five Ass hats will fix it up. Then, they run off to
Alaska. I thought you knew.

In ,
typed:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 00:44:01 +0000, i need helo
wrote:

replying to Terry Coombs , i need helo wrote:
snag_one wrote:

If you just bought this house , you may have recourse on the
seller . Something like this structural deficiency should have
been obvious to him

... if you had the house inspected and the inspecter missed it ,
he's probably liable . Or you could be just plain screwed . A whole
lot depends

on the circumstances , your contract , and the laws in your area .

the bad thing is itcwas a asis cash sale

. . . . . . . , You will likely need
to put support beams under the joists with jacks - on both sides of
the beam. You will need to open up the foundation on one end so you
can pull the bad beam out and put the new one in. I suspect you will
require professional help on this job.

If everything that the OP wrote is true (doubtful to me), then I agree.

On 2015-03-15 4:42 PM, TomR wrote:
In oups.com,
i need helo typed:
replying to DanG , i need helo wrote:
dgriff23 wrote:

Look in your yellow pages for house mover. They are much more
prepared to deal with the problem and have the jacks and cribbing
and good working knowledge of the issues and have developed ways to
accomplish the task.

I got this its not as bad as I thought it was I have a concrete floor
and have about 15 jacksand about five guys give me a hand so it's not
going to be that bad thank you everyone for your help

Seriously? This all sounds somewhat bogus to me.

What State are you in? Did you buy this to live in? Or, did you buy it as
an investment -- as a buy-fix-hold-rent, buy/rehab/flip, or ...?

Are you saying that the moisture problem only caused the 3 2x10 main beam to
rot but none of the other joists attached to that beam have rotted?

You had an "expert" look at it and that person confirmed that it was not
termites, and was water-related rot, but could not tell you what you would
need to do to fix the problem?

And, if all of what you say is true, and you are supposedly going to fix it
yourself, you most likely need an engineer's report and a permit to do the
fix in most places in the U.S.

And, if you do all of that, and the building collapses on your five guys,
you will probably be looking at criminal charges and jail time, plus the
civil liability.



I never trust people who can't spell.

I think the OP needs psychiatric help.

replying to Adam Kubias , i need help wrote:
adam.kubias wrote:

I never trust people who can't spell.
I think the OP needs psychiatric help.


theses alway a few asses in the bunch

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