any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which
would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 01/19/2015 06:08 PM, danny burstein wrote:
Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks I remember that when I was a kid, my mom had one...and it would sure make sense especially in places with water shortages. I don't know of any machines today that will do that...but there are plenty of videos on-line that show you how to re-use water...I did not see any particularly good ones though |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
danny burstein wrote:
Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] Hi, I don't know, our Whrilpool top loader has self cleaning lint filter, per every load it is reverse flushed cleaning it. That is what manual says. No problem. Matching dryer has big fine rectangular lint screen we clean every load. No problem. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
philo wrote:
On 01/19/2015 06:08 PM, danny burstein wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks I remember that when I was a kid, my mom had one...and it would sure make sense especially in places with water shortages. I don't know of any machines today that will do that...but there are plenty of videos on-line that show you how to re-use water...I did not see any particularly good ones though You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that . Except we don't have one , we line dry our clothes . And they often have lint on them that needs to be gotten off before she will wear them . I couldn't care less if there's a little lint . -- Snag |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
In "Terry Coombs" writes:
You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . well, more _throough_ the filter, but yea. And it wasn't just lint it trapped, but also things like small parts of leaves, etc. I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that. And a pretty ****poor job of it, especially if it's larger pieces like... those leaf fragments.. thanks -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:16:31 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
wrote: In "Terry Coombs" writes: You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . well, more _throough_ the filter, but yea. And it wasn't just lint it trapped, but also things like small parts of leaves, etc. I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that. And a pretty ****poor job of it, especially if it's larger pieces like... those leaf fragments.. Me have a modern washer and dryer, and my wife uses a lint roller on fresh clothes before heading to work. She has a dark uniform. Seems a common problem. From what I see she could pick off the few strap pieces of lint and dog hair, but the lint roller is faster and cleans better. Haven't had any problem with leaves. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:16:31 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein wrote: In "Terry Coombs" writes: You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . well, more _throough_ the filter, but yea. And it wasn't just lint it trapped, but also things like small parts of leaves, etc. I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that. And a pretty ****poor job of it, especially if it's larger pieces like... those leaf fragments.. Me have a modern washer and dryer, and my wife uses a lint roller on fresh clothes before heading to work. She has a dark uniform. Seems a common problem. From what I see she could pick off the few strap pieces of lint and dog hair, but the lint roller is faster and cleans better. Haven't had any problem with leaves. You must not live out in the woods . -- Snag |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:34:56 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Me have a modern washer and dryer, and my wife uses a lint roller on fresh clothes before heading to work. She has a dark uniform. Seems a common problem. From what I see she could pick off the few strap pieces of lint and dog hair, but the lint roller is faster and cleans better. Haven't had any problem with leaves. You must not live out in the woods . "The woods" ain't the only place with leaves. We brush them off our clothes before coming into the house. Same with pine needles and burrs. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 01/19/2015 07:08 PM, danny burstein wrote:
Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks The best performing machines out there today are the front loaders. Unfortunately when a front loader breaks you'll prolly need to take out a second mortgage to pay for repairs. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 01/20/2015 10:12 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . There was a version I remember called the suds saver, that reused the wash water. I'd have thought it makes sense to use rinse water for the next load's wash. That would be reasonably clean. I remember those from the 70s in Australia. The washer had a heating element to get the recycled water back up to temperature. I think we reused the water only once. Reusing the rinse water wouldn't have saved detergent ("suds"), would it? Perce |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 9:14:46 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
danny burstein wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] Hi, I don't know, our Whrilpool top loader has self cleaning lint filter, per every load it is reverse flushed cleaning it. That is what manual says. No problem. Matching dryer has big fine rectangular lint screen we clean every load. No problem. I've seen toploaders in years gone by that had a lint filter up top that was visible. I guess it circulated some of the water throught it and it caught lint and small debris. If I had to guess, I would think maybe they've moved the filter to an automatic self-cleaning one? |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
Things like lint filters on washing machines you have to trade up a model
nowadays. Same goes for our new pool pump motor. Same model#, same design, but they eliminated the on/off toggle power switch from it. Gotta pay $50 more and buy a motor too strong for our size pool to get one with the switch. So back to plugging it in before use and unplugging it after. Things ain't what they used to be... |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 01/19/2015 08:40 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
philo wrote: On 01/19/2015 06:08 PM, danny burstein wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks I remember that when I was a kid, my mom had one...and it would sure make sense especially in places with water shortages. I don't know of any machines today that will do that...but there are plenty of videos on-line that show you how to re-use water...I did not see any particularly good ones though You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that . Except we don't have one , we line dry our clothes . And they often have lint on them that needs to be gotten off before she will wear them . I couldn't care less if there's a little lint . The OP said it would take water "out of the tub" which implied to me that it was the water-saver variety since AFAIK they no longer make those washers, no lint filter is needed as clean fresh water is used with every cycle. That said, no matter how well you wash the clothes there is always bound to be at least some lint produced while drying (at least with cotton) |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 1/19/2015 7:08 PM, danny burstein wrote:
Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] Back in the last millennium I was told by an appliance salesman that the manufacturers had decided that the washer lint filter wasn't needed. Everyone has a dryer to remove the lint, and everyone is connected to sewers, so no need for a filter. Progress... Liz |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
philo wrote:
On 01/19/2015 08:40 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: philo wrote: On 01/19/2015 06:08 PM, danny burstein wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks I remember that when I was a kid, my mom had one...and it would sure make sense especially in places with water shortages. I don't know of any machines today that will do that...but there are plenty of videos on-line that show you how to re-use water...I did not see any particularly good ones though You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that . Except we don't have one , we line dry our clothes . And they often have lint on them that needs to be gotten off before she will wear them . I couldn't care less if there's a little lint . The OP said it would take water "out of the tub" which implied to me that it was the water-saver variety since AFAIK they no longer make those washers, no lint filter is needed as clean fresh water is used with every cycle. That said, no matter how well you wash the clothes there is always bound to be at least some lint produced while drying (at least with cotton) And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . -- Snag |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 1/20/2015 9:13 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . That was common some years back. You started off with the whites, then light colors, then dark colors. May have made sense decades ago when water was difficult to get in some parts of the country, not to mention cost. Maybe still makes sense in third world countries. People still take baths, not showers. They relax in a pool of dirty soapy water. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 1/20/2015 9:13 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . There was a version I remember called the suds saver, that reused the wash water. I'd have thought it makes sense to use rinse water for the next load's wash. That would be reasonably clean. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 9:13:07 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
philo wrote: On 01/19/2015 08:40 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: philo wrote: On 01/19/2015 06:08 PM, danny burstein wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks I remember that when I was a kid, my mom had one...and it would sure make sense especially in places with water shortages. I don't know of any machines today that will do that...but there are plenty of videos on-line that show you how to re-use water...I did not see any particularly good ones though You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that . Except we don't have one , we line dry our clothes . And they often have lint on them that needs to be gotten off before she will wear them . I couldn't care less if there's a little lint . The OP said it would take water "out of the tub" which implied to me that it was the water-saver variety since AFAIK they no longer make those washers, no lint filter is needed as clean fresh water is used with every cycle. That said, no matter how well you wash the clothes there is always bound to be at least some lint produced while drying (at least with cotton) And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . That's what I understood it to mean. Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . -- Snag Agree. I've never seen a machine that used anything but clean water. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:12:37 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/20/2015 9:13 AM, Terry Coombs wrote: And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . There was a version I remember called the suds saver, that reused the wash water. I'd have thought it makes sense to use rinse water for the next load's wash. That would be reasonably clean. - Don't go giving the govt ideas. They'll make that a reqt on all new washers. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 01/20/2015 08:13 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
philo wrote: On 01/19/2015 08:40 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: philo wrote: On 01/19/2015 06:08 PM, danny burstein wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... Thanks I remember that when I was a kid, my mom had one...and it would sure make sense especially in places with water shortages. I don't know of any machines today that will do that...but there are plenty of videos on-line that show you how to re-use water...I did not see any particularly good ones though You missed his point . The machine would pump water over the lint filter while agitating , had nothing to do with saving water . Had everything to do with getting lint out of your clothes . I suspect the reason this is no longer done is because now dryers do that . Except we don't have one , we line dry our clothes . And they often have lint on them that needs to be gotten off before she will wear them . I couldn't care less if there's a little lint . The OP said it would take water "out of the tub" which implied to me that it was the water-saver variety since AFAIK they no longer make those washers, no lint filter is needed as clean fresh water is used with every cycle. That said, no matter how well you wash the clothes there is always bound to be at least some lint produced while drying (at least with cotton) And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . Yeah I guess I did miss the point. My 25 year old washing machine has never once done anything wrong. I put the cloths and soap in and nothing else has even needed to be done. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:08:40 -0500, danny burstein
wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, Whirlpool called that Sudzmiser (spelling?) We had one for about 16 years. Pink. passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. That my current machine also does, by sucking the clothes down into the water. it makes t hem circulate like a doughnut rotating along its length. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... I remember the filter. Unfortunately my 1979 Sears Whirlpool has a lint chopper. I can't imagine it works as well, but it takes less effort on my part. Thanks _________________________________________________ ____ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:13:02 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub Unless there are two things, it only pumped water from the tub once, to fill the machine for the second load. After that, the water circulated through the machine the same as it did during the first load. And it only pumped the water into the tub once, at the end of the wash cycle. (In t heory you could use the same wash water over and over, but it got less hot, back in the days when everyone washed with hot water, and it got more dirty.) The purpose of reusing the water was aiui mostly to save on heating cold water, and less, in most parts of the country, on the prcie of water, Because with women, the wash water is pretty clean after the clothes have been washed. OTOH, with me, the water is too dirty to reuse. In fact I sometimes drain the tub and put in new water and new soap. before getting to the rinse. . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then We didn't have a separate tub. We had a hose that went into the only tub, and another hose that went into a metal tube that went through the water sometimes in the tub, straight to the drain. I'm sure many many people in Indy at the time had that setup and the washing machine delivery man knew exactly what to do, and had the parts in his truck already. back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . To save money. She was told the second load would come out clean and indeed it did. -- Snag |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:36:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/20/2015 9:13 AM, Terry Coombs wrote: And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . That was common some years back. You started off with the whites, then light colors, then dark colors. May have made sense decades ago when water was difficult to get in some parts of the country, not to mention cost. Maybe still makes sense in third world countries. People still take baths, not showers. They relax in a pool of dirty soapy water. Indeed, though it sometimes occurs to me that I should wash my hair as soon as I get in the tub. But I don't always do that. I think a little dirt gives my hair body. So it's not fly-away. |
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:12:39 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: There was a version I remember called the suds saver, that reused the wash water. I'd have thought it makes sense to use rinse water for the next load's wash. That would be reasonably clean. Good point. I woudl ask my mother about that if she were still around. (Would be 106 if she were.) - . |
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On 1/20/2015 2:44 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:12:37 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/20/2015 9:13 AM, Terry Coombs wrote: And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then back into the machine for subsequent loads . Though why on earth would anyone want to use dirty water to wash their clothes has always escaped me . There was a version I remember called the suds saver, that reused the wash water. I'd have thought it makes sense to use rinse water for the next load's wash. That would be reasonably clean. - Don't go giving the govt ideas. They'll make that a reqt on all new washers. I had a suds saver washer for 35 years. It got the clothes a hell of a lot cleaner than the new washer does. Like the OP laments, lint is now a perpetual problem. Anyhow, reusing wash water is not an issue when the majority of clothes washed aren't actually very dirty. The really dirty stuff of course we didn't reuse the water. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 1/21/2015 8:10 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
I had a suds saver washer for 35 years. It got the clothes a hell of a lot cleaner than the new washer does. Like the OP laments, lint is now a perpetual problem. Anyhow, reusing wash water is not an issue when the majority of clothes washed aren't actually very dirty. The really dirty stuff of course we didn't reuse the water. Back then, phosphate detergent was all the rage. Now, if it works, the gov't has already banned it. Ethyl gasoline DDT pesticide Freon Cars without catalytic converters And the list goes on.... - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 1/21/2015 8:26 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/21/2015 8:10 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: I had a suds saver washer for 35 years. It got the clothes a hell of a lot cleaner than the new washer does. Like the OP laments, lint is now a perpetual problem. Anyhow, reusing wash water is not an issue when the majority of clothes washed aren't actually very dirty. The really dirty stuff of course we didn't reuse the water. Back then, phosphate detergent was all the rage. Now, if it works, the gov't has already banned it. Ethyl gasoline DDT pesticide Freon Cars without catalytic converters And the list goes on.... And all of them made the world a cleaner place. Unlike some of you folks, I'm not nostalgic for the smoky, stinky, polluted air and water of my youth. Incidentally, an excellent substitute for phosphates in detergent is citric acid. You can buy it in bulk and it only takes a little bit per load. Good for the dishwasher and washing machine. |
clarification, was: any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across
the lint filter and back into the tub Unless there are two things, it only pumped water from the tub once, to fill the machine for the second load. After that, the water circulated through the machine the same as it did during the first load. Indeed, two completely different items under discussion. My olde washing machine, _while washing and agitating_, would suck water from the tub and pump it through a removable/cleanable lint filter (looked like a large shoe shine brush) and spray it over the tops of the clothes. This both made sure the clothes were getting wet and washed [a], and also filtered out lint and other particles - such as leaves - from the water. The other concept people are discussing was where the washing machine would take the _rinse_ water (which, being the second part of the cycling [b], was pretty clean [not up to drinking standards..]), and divert it away from the sewer line and instead pump it into a holding tank. This water would then be used for the wash cycle, dumped out, and then fresh water brought in for the rinse. (And that new rinse water would be recycled, etc.) [a] with top loaders nowadays it's often the case that some clothes just stay out with parts of them sticking out of the water, thus never getting properly washed. I actually have to take a stick and push them under... [b] I personally use a second rinse cycle (so it's wash, rinse, rinse) to clean out the remaining soap. . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then Eyup. I'd love to have one of those for the water savings.. I've been tempted to jury rig a diverter.. -- __________________________________________________ ___ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:08:40 -0500, danny burstein
wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... The salesman at Sears that sold me my washing machine said it had a "passive" lint trap. I have come to learn that "passive" means that the lint all gets trapped in the pockets of your clothes, and the machine itself has no lint trap whatsoever. Passive means none. -- croy |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:22:22 -0800, croy wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:08:40 -0500, danny burstein wrote: Back in Ye Good Olde Daize we had a clothes washer which would take water from the tub and pump it back over the top of the clothes, passing through a lint filter (looked a bit like a shoe shine brush). And the filter certainly trapped lots of stuff. We had to clean it each use. Oh, and it also made sure that the clothes got wet instead of sticking out on top of the water.. This is such an obviously useful system that, of course, I can't find any washing machines out there that still do this. Anyone have a pointer to such a unit? I'm getting really tired of seeing, for example, leaf fragments hanging onto my shirts... The salesman at Sears that sold me my washing machine said it had a "passive" lint trap. I have come to learn that "passive" means that the lint all gets trapped in the pockets of your clothes, and the machine itself has no lint trap whatsoever. Passive means none. What could be more passive than that? But seriously, if the salesman knew this, he's a liar. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:26:13 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 1/21/2015 8:10 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: I had a suds saver washer for 35 years. It got the clothes a hell of a lot cleaner than the new washer does. Like the OP laments, lint is now a perpetual problem. Anyhow, reusing wash water is not an issue when the majority of clothes washed aren't actually very dirty. The really dirty stuff of course we didn't reuse the water. Back then, phosphate detergent was all the rage. Now, if it works, the gov't has already banned it. Ethyl gasoline DDT pesticide Freon Cars without catalytic converters Those all cause harm. And new detergents have enzymes. I thought that was a hoax until I read that people at the factory were getting sick from them. I'm sure now they wear masks or something. My impression is that dirtier clothes get clean, compared to before when if I let clothes or rags get that dirty, they would never get clean. And the list goes on.... - . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . |
clarification, was: any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:57:32 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
wrote: And still you miss the point . It was pumping water from the tub , across the lint filter and back into the tub Unless there are two things, it only pumped water from the tub once, to fill the machine for the second load. After that, the water circulated through the machine the same as it did during the first load. Indeed, two completely different items under discussion. My olde washing machine, _while washing and agitating_, would suck water from the tub and pump it through a removable/cleanable lint filter (looked like a large shoe shine brush) and spray it over the tops of the clothes. This both made sure the clothes were getting wet and washed [a], and also filtered out lint and other particles - such as leaves - from the water. The other concept people are discussing was where the washing machine would take the _rinse_ water (which, being the second part of the cycling [b], was pretty Im confused and that's why it took me a long time to answer -- sorry --, but I may have spelled it wrong. We had a machine with Sudsmiser, named after the suds from the wash cycle. I think maybe cold-water rinsing was just getting started, so even though two loads used two batches of rinse water, or maybe four, it didnt' have to be heated, if a housewife could break free of her old habits (or her mother's) My first year in college, I knew about separating white and colored clothes, and I think I did it, but somehow I washed new maroon gym shorts with the whites and died all my underwear pink. Why didn't they have us wear dark blue gym shorts, at least? clean [not up to drinking standards..]), and divert it away from the sewer line and instead pump it into a holding tank. This water would then be used for the wash cycle, dumped out, and then fresh water brought in for the rinse. (And that new rinse water would be recycled, etc.) [a] with top loaders nowadays it's often the case that some clothes just stay out with parts of them sticking out of the water, thus never getting properly washed. I actually have to take a stick and push them under... [b] I personally use a second rinse cycle (so it's wash, rinse, rinse) to clean out the remaining soap. . Most automatic washers have always used fresh water for every cycle - though I remember a machine my mother had back in the 50's that would pump the wash water into a separate tub then Eyup. I'd love to have one of those for the water savings.. I've been tempted to jury rig a diverter.. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
On 1/23/2015 10:44 PM, micky wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 09:26:13 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/21/2015 8:10 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: I had a suds saver washer for 35 years. It got the clothes a hell of a lot cleaner than the new washer does. Like the OP laments, lint is now a perpetual problem. Anyhow, reusing wash water is not an issue when the majority of clothes washed aren't actually very dirty. The really dirty stuff of course we didn't reuse the water. Back then, phosphate detergent was all the rage. Now, if it works, the gov't has already banned it. Ethyl gasoline DDT pesticide Freon Cars without catalytic converters Those all cause harm. And new detergents have enzymes. I thought that was a hoax until I read that people at the factory were getting sick from them. I'm sure now they wear masks or something. My impression is that dirtier clothes get clean, compared to before when if I let clothes or rags get that dirty, they would never get clean. And the list goes on.... - . Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus . www.lds.org . . Well, Comrade, yes the Party says those all cause harm. For example, the DDT that saved people from dying of Malaria. My view is that a lot of that "harm" was the nattering nabobs wanting to ban things that worked. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
any washing machines that still pump water through a lint filter?
I believe the reason this is now done is because laws were passed that allowed "gray water" to be discharged from home water systems. As soon as that happened, washing machine mfgs stopped putting lint filters in washing machineso. I had an old GE machine that had a donut shaped filter that went over the agitator. If I had known I could no longer get a machine with a lint filter, I would have paid whatever it would have cost to save the machine. If I wash a fuzzy rug now, I have to run an empty load to clean out the washer and it still doesn't get all the lint out. What a change for the worse! Progress?
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