Last month we went on a road trip looking at colleges for my son. At one
motel in San Diego they had the worst shower I can remember. It was
designed for vertically challenged people and the flow was so low that
it took a very long time for each person to take a shower.

A long time ago I used to take a shower head along when I rented ski
cabins or condos and I am going to start doing the same when I go to a
motel. Just an adjustable wrench and a modified shower head is all that
is required.

Not all shower heads lend themselves to modification. Twenty years ago
there were shower heads with removable restrictors where the
instructions advised you to be sure to replace the restrictor after
cleaning the shower head so that the water saving feature would still
function (wink, wink). Not sure if there are any of those still around.
I bought an inexpensive, solid brass shower head at Home Depot for $18.
I removed the water-restriciting rubber washer and replaced it with
normal washers http://www.homedepot.com/p/204511132. Then I
disassembled it and drilled out the water restrictor hole, increasing
the diameter by about 4x. I would not try this with a plastic shower
head and many of the shower heads sold at Home Depot, even the more
expensive ones, are plastic with a metal coating.

Apparently this is all going to get worse. In NY, they already have
reduced the GPM for showerheads to 2.0, from the federal guideline of 2.5.

I saw a shower head on Amazon that is supposed to be 4-5 GPM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ZSF296 (apparently it ships with a
restricting washer in order to stay legal).

I don't get these low-flow shower heads. It just takes far longer to
take a shower and you end up using the same amount, or more, water. They
need to rate shower heads in gallons per shower, not gallons per minute.

On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:01:58 -0700, sms
wrote:

Last month we went on a road trip looking at colleges for my son. At one
motel in San Diego they had the worst shower I can remember. It was
designed for vertically challenged people and the flow was so low that
it took a very long time for each person to take a shower.

A long time ago I used to take a shower head along when I rented ski
cabins or condos and I am going to start doing the same when I go to a
motel. Just an adjustable wrench and a modified shower head is all that
is required.



Apparently this is all going to get worse. In NY, they already have
reduced the GPM for showerheads to 2.0, from the federal guideline of 2.5.

I'm assuming my new shower heads are 2.5, but they work very well as
they are. One is a rain can overhead, the other is on a hose and can
be hand held. I thought about making modifications, but I have no
complaints. Although everything I have is Kohler, the plumbing supply
recommended these from Delta because they work well.

Delta RP52382

http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/details/rp52382.html
Don't let the list price fool you, it can be had for half that.
Hand held is five function D51505
http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/details/51505-ssds.html

I do understand your frustration with hotels though. They must
throttle them back to about a half gallon.

"sms" wrote in message
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I don't get these low-flow shower heads. It just takes far longer to take
a shower and you end up using the same amount, or more, water. They need
to rate shower heads in gallons per shower, not gallons per minute.


what you fail to understand is the fact that, while you and I use a shower
to quickly get clean, many people use it as some sort of therapy device.

On 05/03/2014 11:01 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
"sms" wrote in message
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I don't get these low-flow shower heads. It just takes far longer to take
a shower and you end up using the same amount, or more, water. They need
to rate shower heads in gallons per shower, not gallons per minute.


what you fail to understand is the fact that, while you and I use a shower
to quickly get clean, many people use it as some sort of therapy device.



It's important for wage slaves to conserve water while in the shower
so that wealthy people can spew hundreds of gallons per minute on
their golf course-sized lawns.

God bless the wealthy republicans!

Per Joe Taxpayer:
It's important for wage slaves to conserve water while in the shower
so that wealthy people can spew hundreds of gallons per minute on
their golf course-sized lawns.

What bugs me is the assumption that everybody is getting their water
from some non-replenishable source - like an underground aquifer.

If I'm getting my water from the Delaware river, "Wasting water" is not
a correct description for leaving a faucet on What I'm really doing is
diluting the waste stream that gets processed and dumped back into the
river.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 5/4/2014 8:25 AM, Joe Taxpayer wrote:


It's important for wage slaves to conserve water while in the shower
so that wealthy people can spew hundreds of gallons per minute on
their golf course-sized lawns.

God bless the wealthy republicans!

Right, Democrats never play golf. Al Gore never waters his lawn.

On 5/3/2014 10:01 PM, sms wrote:
Last month we went on a road trip looking at colleges for my son. At one
motel in San Diego they had the worst shower I can remember. It was
designed for vertically challenged people and the flow was so low that
it took a very long time for each person to take a shower.

A long time ago I used to take a shower head along when I rented ski
cabins or condos and I am going to start doing the same when I go to a
motel. Just an adjustable wrench and a modified shower head is all that
is required.

Not all shower heads lend themselves to modification. Twenty years ago
there were shower heads with removable restrictors where the
instructions advised you to be sure to replace the restrictor after
cleaning the shower head so that the water saving feature would still
function (wink, wink). Not sure if there are any of those still around.

All the hand-held WaterPik PowerSpray models I've bought have removable
flow restrictors. And I do remove them.

They're not easy to remove; you need a miniature needle-nose pliers to
get in there, like the kind you use for delicate electronics work.



--
Steven L.

On Sun, 04 May 2014 12:22:08 -0400, "Steven L."
wrote:




All the hand-held WaterPik PowerSpray models I've bought have removable
flow restrictors. And I do remove them.

They're not easy to remove; you need a miniature needle-nose pliers to
get in there, like the kind you use for delicate electronics work.

Would be nice if you just slid them in and out. Out for when I
shower, in for when grandson takes 20 minutes. He's gotten better
since I turned the hot water off while he was in there.

On 5/4/2014 9:29 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 04 May 2014 12:22:08 -0400, "Steven L."
wrote:




All the hand-held WaterPik PowerSpray models I've bought have removable
flow restrictors. And I do remove them.

They're not easy to remove; you need a miniature needle-nose pliers to
get in there, like the kind you use for delicate electronics work.

Would be nice if you just slid them in and out. Out for when I
shower, in for when grandson takes 20 minutes. He's gotten better
since I turned the hot water off while he was in there.

I do that with my son.

On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:01:58 -0700, sms wrote:

A long time ago I used to take a shower head along when I rented ski
cabins or condos and I am going to start doing the same when I go to a
motel. Just an adjustable wrench and a modified shower head is all that
is required.

I suggest also bringing along a roll of Teflon tape. To be sure you get
theirs back on without it leaking.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On 5/4/2014 12:13 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:01:58 -0700, sms wrote:

A long time ago I used to take a shower head along when I rented ski
cabins or condos and I am going to start doing the same when I go to a
motel. Just an adjustable wrench and a modified shower head is all that
is required.

I suggest also bringing along a roll of Teflon tape. To be sure you get
theirs back on without it leaking.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).


Yes, I bring teflon tape along with a wrench and the shower head.

BTW, according to the TSA web site, wrenches less than seven inches long
are okay to carrry on
http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/prohibited-items#7. Not all
six inch adjustable wrenches will open wide enough for a shower head.
You want at least 1" opening.

"sms" wrote in message
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On 5/4/2014 12:13 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Sat, 03 May 2014 19:01:58 -0700, sms
wrote:

A long time ago I used to take a shower head along when I rented ski
cabins or condos and I am going to start doing the same when I go to a
motel. Just an adjustable wrench and a modified shower head is all that
is required.

I suggest also bringing along a roll of Teflon tape. To be sure you get
theirs back on without it leaking.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).


Yes, I bring teflon tape along with a wrench and the shower head.

BTW, according to the TSA web site, wrenches less than seven inches long
are okay to carrry on
http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/prohibited-items#7. Not all six
inch adjustable wrenches will open wide enough for a shower head. You want
at least 1" opening.

aren't wrenches and Teflon tape items that the front desk would typically
provide upon request?

SMS:

The difference between a good shower and a lousy one is entirely a function of two factors:

1. Is the shower head designed for low flow or is it a full flow shower head with a flow restrictor in it?
If it's the latter, it's garbage. You see, if you don't change the size of the holes in the shower head itself, lowering the amount of flow with a restrictor is just going to result in a low flow rate through the holes, in which case you don't get a "spray" but a "spill". That is, the shower head spills water on your instead of sprays it on you. The ONLY fix for this is to replace the shower head with one that's designed for a lower flow rate, which means it will have fewer holes, smaller holes, or both. Then, the flow rate through the holes will be sufficient that the water will spray out of the shower head and you get decent shower performance.

2. How well does the diverter spout work?
Cheap diverter spouts made in China are water wasters. That's because when you divert the flow to the shower head, fully 1/4 to 1/3 of the water is still spilling out the tub spout. In order to maximize shower performance, you need to eliminate the water spillage out the spout.
Both Delta and Ondine use a closure mechanism that uses the water pressure itself to stop water flow out the tub spout, and so Delta and Ondine spouts work very well. Moen uses a rubber cup. When the rubber cup is positioned in front of the water supply pipe it elongates and seals off the flow out the end of the water supply pipe. Both systems work well. Moen's diverter spout for a copper water supply pipe is the Moen 3931 tub spout, and other models are available for other kinds of threaded spouts. And, the good news is that a Moen 3931 spout costs about $14, or only about twice what a water waster diverter spout costs.

In my building, ALL of my shower heads are made by Niagara Conservation which specializes in water conservation products. And, ALL of my diverter spouts are Moen 3931. Since I changed the shower heads and diverter spouts I have not had a single tenant complain about the shower performance.