How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
I have a light fixture in my bedroom that I have no idea how to open. It is basically a flattened disk, almost like a translucent glass pasta bowl, with no visible removable parts. The disk is mounted in a cylinder that's maybe an inch tall which also has no visible removable parts.
Everything fits together smoothly. The only even slightly noticable feature is a dimple on the mounting piece, but I don't see any use for this. I've tried twisting the two parts of the glass bowl to no effect. I've also tried twisting the glass off the mounting piece, but the clearance is so short that this is almost impossible. I've also tried twisting the whole light, but that seems to be moving the wires in the ceiling which I don't want to torque. Similarly, I've tried gently pulling and that didn't work. Has anyone seen a fixture like this? Any idea how to open it? |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
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How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:28:25 AM UTC-8, Steve F. wrote:
Usually those require that one gives the "globe" a firm pull down. The base should have some retention tabs that hold the globe in place. When I pull down, the whole thing (including the base) starts to pull away from the ceiling. It feels like I'm about to rip the whole thing out of the dry wall... |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:30:32 AM UTC-8, Oren wrote:
I'm only guessing here, but it may be spring loaded. Can you pull down on the side opposite of the dimple? Actually, I feel that there's another dimple directly opposite the one in the picture. The clearance from the ceiling is so short and the glass is so tight against the base that it's hard to really get any leverage to pull the glass away from the base... |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On 1/30/2014 12:35 PM, Ghazgkull wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:28:25 AM UTC-8, Steve F. wrote: Usually those require that one gives the "globe" a firm pull down. The base should have some retention tabs that hold the globe in place. When I pull down, the whole thing (including the base) starts to pull away from the ceiling. It feels like I'm about to rip the whole thing out of the dry wall... It could be that it is one piece. I have not messed around with that particular model. You stated that the base rotated. Can you see the lamp holder rotate with the base? |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
Ghazgkull wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:30:32 AM UTC-8, Oren wrote: I'm only guessing here, but it may be spring loaded. Can you pull down on the side opposite of the dimple? Actually, I feel that there's another dimple directly opposite the one in the picture. The clearance from the ceiling is so short and the glass is so tight against the base that it's hard to really get any leverage to pull the glass away from the base... Those dimples may engage slots in the glass cover mounting system . See if you can rotate the glass without rotating the base of the fixture . |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:09:44 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Ghazgkull wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:30:32 AM UTC-8, Oren wrote: I'm only guessing here, but it may be spring loaded. Can you pull down on the side opposite of the dimple? Actually, I feel that there's another dimple directly opposite the one in the picture. The clearance from the ceiling is so short and the glass is so tight against the base that it's hard to really get any leverage to pull the glass away from the base... Those dimples may engage slots in the glass cover mounting system . See if you can rotate the glass without rotating the base of the fixture . I was thinking along the same line as there are two dimples. The slots may look like an upside down "L". A little turn and it pulls down? |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:14:51 AM UTC-8, Oren wrote:
I was thinking along the same line as there are two dimples. The slots may look like an upside down "L". A little turn and it pulls down? I also feel like it should rotate on the base and just open, but the clearance is so small there's no way to grab the base. Do any of these things require a tool to open? Am I supposed to poke something onto the dimple to give enough leverage to twist off the glass? Hmm... |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On 1/30/2014 11:09 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Ghazgkull wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:30:32 AM UTC-8, Oren wrote: I'm only guessing here, but it may be spring loaded. Can you pull down on the side opposite of the dimple? Actually, I feel that there's another dimple directly opposite the one in the picture. The clearance from the ceiling is so short and the glass is so tight against the base that it's hard to really get any leverage to pull the glass away from the base... Those dimples may engage slots in the glass cover mounting system . See if you can rotate the glass without rotating the base of the fixture . I concur with the rotation of the glass. Paul |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
"Ghazgkull" wrote in message
... On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:28:25 AM UTC-8, Steve F. wrote: Usually those require that one gives the "globe" a firm pull down. The base should have some retention tabs that hold the globe in place. When I pull down, the whole thing (including the base) starts to pull away from the ceiling. It feels like I'm about to rip the whole thing out of the dry wall... Your photo looks like the lamp in our kitchen, except that ours has no flat disk between the fixture and the curved light diffuser. Our diffuser removes by rotating, i.e. locks to the fixture by lugs like those that hold together the two halves of a smoke detector. When we installed it both my wife and I practised removing the diffuser, so either can replace bulbs when we need to. If your fixture moves when you try to turn the diffuser, the fixture was probably improperly fastened to the cieling. It may be safer to pay for an electrician's house call. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:16:25 -0800 (PST),
wrote: I'm not sure how to add images to these posts, so I uploaded a couple he http://imgur.com/syUPGdb http://imgur.com/4xTYWZ3 Since this is not a binaries group you provided the images in the perfect way. Now, as far as the disassembly of the fixture is concerned, if rotating the glass portion appears to rotate the complete fixture, the only logical solution seems to pull straight down harder than you already have. If the electrician installed everything correctly I would doubt you would pull the box through the drywall. But that could be a big "if." Good luck. |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:59:02 -0600, "Steve F." wrote:
On 1/30/2014 12:35 PM, Ghazgkull wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:28:25 AM UTC-8, Steve F. wrote: Usually those require that one gives the "globe" a firm pull down. The base should have some retention tabs that hold the globe in place. When I pull down, the whole thing (including the base) starts to pull away from the ceiling. It feels like I'm about to rip the whole thing out of the dry wall... It could be that it is one piece. I have not messed around with that particular model. You stated that the base rotated. Can you see the lamp holder rotate with the base? All the old "pan" fixtures in my daughter's townhouse required a counterclockwize turn of several degrees, followed by a pull down. Some were nastier than others (and all were full of dead flies when she bought the house) |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:39:23 -0600, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:16:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: I'm not sure how to add images to these posts, so I uploaded a couple he http://imgur.com/syUPGdb http://imgur.com/4xTYWZ3 Since this is not a binaries group you provided the images in the perfect way. Now, as far as the disassembly of the fixture is concerned, if rotating the glass portion appears to rotate the complete fixture, the only logical solution seems to pull straight down harder than you already have. If the electrician installed everything correctly I would doubt you would pull the box through the drywall. But that could be a big "if." Good luck. +1 It is a can light, pull straight down. |
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How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:14:51 AM UTC-8, Oren wrote: I was thinking along the same line as there are two dimples. The slots may look like an upside down "L". A little turn and it pulls down? I also feel like it should rotate on the base and just open, but the clearance is so small there's no way to grab the base. Do any of these things require a tool to open? Am I supposed to poke something onto the dimple to give enough leverage to twist off the glass? Hmm... I have fixtures where the frosting on the glass and years of non-movement makes rotating the globe to free it from the dimple very difficult, especially if there is nothing to grab onto. You might want to try a pair of rubber gloves or a piece of the rubber pad that goes under rugs to help you grip the glass. This stuff is great for getting a grip on things or preventing many things from sliding. I have multiple pieces of it my shop, garage and van. http://www.amazon.com/Amos-Purpose-R.../dp/B00EHG07P6 |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:55:10 PM UTC-8, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I have fixtures where the frosting on the glass and years of non-movement makes rotating the globe to free it from the dimple very difficult, especially if there is nothing to grab onto. You might want to try a pair of rubber gloves or a piece of the rubber pad that goes under rugs to help you grip the glass. This stuff is great for getting a grip on things or preventing many things from sliding. I have multiple pieces of it my shop, garage and van. http://www.amazon.com/Amos-Purpose-R.../dp/B00EHG07P6 In case anyone has a similar problem in the future, I figured it out thanks to everyone's help here. The glass plate was in fact held in place by the little dimples on the base and it required twisting in order to open it. I finally managed to open it by using a couple of those rubberized grippers like you use for opening bottles. I slid one between the base and the ceiling, grabbed the glass plate with the other, and then pressed the plate up (to create friction) while twisting. Whew! Thanks, all. |
How to open this semi flush glass disk light fixture?
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:02:43 -0800 (PST), Ghazgkull
wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Amos-Purpose-R.../dp/B00EHG07P6 In case anyone has a similar problem in the future, I figured it out thanks to everyone's help here. The glass plate was in fact held in place by the little dimples on the base and it required twisting in order to open it. I finally managed to open it by using a couple of those rubberized grippers like you use for opening bottles. I slid one between the base and the ceiling, grabbed the glass plate with the other, and then pressed the plate up (to create friction) while twisting. Whew! Thanks, all. Good for you. It's a good idea to check the screws at the mounting box; making sure the top piece is secure to the ceiling box. Just sayin'. |
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