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Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
Want to replace a ceiling fan which has a remote control. I unscrewed the
three (on this model, there are only three) screws at the top of the canopy. It twists an inch to each side, but won't come down. It looks like the metal inside the screw holes (what the canopy screws into) is also moving. How can I get it unstuck? Twisting over and over isn't helping. -- |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:44:01 +0000, scott
wrote: Want to replace a ceiling fan which has a remote control. I unscrewed the three (on this model, there are only three) screws at the top of the canopy. It twists an inch to each side, but won't come down. It looks like the metal inside the screw holes (what the canopy screws into) is also moving. How can I get it unstuck? Twisting over and over isn't helping. Try pushing up and then turning |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:44:01 +0000, scott
wrote: Want to replace a ceiling fan which has a remote control. I unscrewed the three (on this model, there are only three) screws at the top of the canopy. It twists an inch to each side, but won't come down. It looks like the metal inside the screw holes (what the canopy screws into) is also moving. How can I get it unstuck? Twisting over and over isn't helping. "on this model" What model is that? I bet money if you use the make / model, there is a very good chance of finding the install instructions on this thing called the Internet. Reverse to procedure for attaching the canopy. YMMV |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:44:01 +0000, scott
wrote: Want to replace a ceiling fan which has a remote control. I unscrewed the three (on this model, there are only three) screws at the top of the canopy. It twists an inch to each side, but won't come down. It looks like the metal inside the screw holes (what the canopy screws into) is also moving. How can I get it unstuck? Twisting over and over isn't helping. Most trist a few degrees, then drop - there are "L" shaped notches in the "bracket" and bumps in the canopy that fit in the grooves. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
Want to replace a ceiling fan which has a remote control. I unscrewed the
three (on this model, there are only three) screws at the top of the canopy. It twists an inch to each side, but won't come down. It looks like the metal inside the screw holes (what the canopy screws into) is also moving. How can I get it unstuck? Twisting over and over isn't helping. *If this is a flushmount fan, you would need to remove the fan blades as well. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
replying to John Grabowski , scott wrote:
jgrabows1 wrote: *If this is a flushmount fan, you would need to remove the fan blades as well. I have done that. No matter how I twist or pull, it just won't come down. I know the remote receiver is in the canopy...is it possible that the last owners stuffed it in there so now the whole thing is stuck? I am really at a loss of what to do, except smash it with a hammer. No, really. -- |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:44:02 +0000, scott
wrote: replying to John Grabowski , scott wrote: jgrabows1 wrote: *If this is a flushmount fan, you would need to remove the fan blades as well. I have done that. No matter how I twist or pull, it just won't come down. I know the remote receiver is in the canopy...is it possible that the last owners stuffed it in there so now the whole thing is stuck? I am really at a loss of what to do, except smash it with a hammer. No, really. Googling for the assembly instructions was a pretty good suggestion. --- I have tried everything else, I guess I am going to have to read the instructions. :) |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
*If this is a flushmount fan, you would need to remove the fan blades as
well. I have done that. No matter how I twist or pull, it just won't come down. I know the remote receiver is in the canopy...is it possible that the last owners stuffed it in there so now the whole thing is stuck? I am really at a loss of what to do, except smash it with a hammer. No, really. *Can you post a few photos? |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:58:57 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote: I have done that. No matter how I twist or pull, it just won't come down. I know the remote receiver is in the canopy...is it possible that the last owners stuffed it in there so now the whole thing is stuck? I am really at a loss of what to do, except smash it with a hammer. No, really. Googling for the assembly instructions was a pretty good suggestion. Yes. And I gave a hint to at least give a us make and model number. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
replying to John Grabowski , scott wrote:
jgrabows1 wrote: *Can you post a few photos? Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I hired someone, and he couldn't get it down either. He thinks caulk got in and made everything stick. (The last owners caulked the canopy to the ceiling, it got on the screws too which I finally got out.) He's bringing a crowbar on Monday. -- |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
*Can you post a few photos?
Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I hired someone, and he couldn't get it down either. He thinks caulk got in and made everything stick. (The last owners caulked the canopy to the ceiling, it got on the screws too which I finally got out.) He's bringing a crowbar on Monday. *I have run into that situation with smoke detectors that have been caulked around the edges. Usually my razor knife is able to cut through the caulk enough to get the old smoke detector off. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
scott wrote:
replying to John Grabowski , scott wrote: jgrabows1 wrote: *Can you post a few photos? Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I hired someone, and he couldn't get it down either. He thinks caulk got in and made everything stick. (The last owners caulked the canopy to the ceiling, it got on the screws too which I finally got out.) He's bringing a crowbar on Monday. -- It's hard for me to understand how the canopy can turn an inch in either direction and yet be caulked in place. What kind of caulk allows for horizontal movement but not vertical? Color me suspicious, but the guy you hired didn't have enough tools with him to get the canopy off? You're replacing the fan right? Seems to me that any number of tools would have allowed him to get the canopy off as long as you don't care about damaging it. Granted, I'm not there to see exactly what you're up against. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 21:44:01 +0000, scott
wrote: Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I hired someone, and he couldn't get it down either. He thinks caulk got in and made everything stick. (The last owners caulked the canopy to the ceiling, it got on the screws too which I finally got out.) He's bringing a crowbar on Monday. mmm'kay You hire a guy that cannot defeat a caulk bead, but you will not give us a make and model of the fan. If the crowbar fails to work on Monday; try Thermite. LOL |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On 01/24/2014 03:44 PM, scott wrote:
replying to John Grabowski , scott wrote: jgrabows1 wrote: *Can you post a few photos? Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I hired someone, and he couldn't get it down either. He thinks caulk got in and made everything stick. (The last owners caulked the canopy to the ceiling, it got on the screws too which I finally got out.) He's bringing a crowbar on Monday. Tell him not to come back. No way is a crow bar needed. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
replying to philoÂ* , scott wrote:
philo wrote: Tell him not to come back. No way is a crow bar needed. You guys are great. Well, this guy has done decent work for us in the past...he was just stopping by to assess the situation first, and tried to get it down. The caulk around the top of the canopy is gone, so it twists a little. But that's it, so the guy thinks some caulk got inside. It really is a puzzle...someone else pointed out that the ball rod hangs from something, so if it's lifted up, everything should come down. well, it doesn't. I think at this point if the guy uses a crowbar and fixes the ceiling (which he'll need to do anyway, since the new canopy is smaller than the hole), then just get it done. This guy isn't nuts. It could be he's wrong, but he's not crazy. Monday morning...stay tuned! -- |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On 1/25/2014 9:44 PM, scott wrote:
replying to philo , scott wrote: philo wrote: Tell him not to come back. No way is a crow bar needed. You guys are great. Well, this guy has done decent work for us in the past...he was just stopping by to assess the situation first, and tried to get it down. The caulk around the top of the canopy is gone, so it twists a little. But that's it, so the guy thinks some caulk got inside. It really is a puzzle...someone else pointed out that the ball rod hangs from something, so if it's lifted up, everything should come down. well, it doesn't. I think at this point if the guy uses a crowbar and fixes the ceiling (which he'll need to do anyway, since the new canopy is smaller than the hole), then just get it done. This guy isn't nuts. It could be he's wrong, but he's not crazy. Monday morning...stay tuned! I might have missed something, here, but isn't there a center shaft with lock nuts attached to a base plate which has two screws? This should be inside of everything which would require removal of center hub/lights (if present). Most ceiling fans that I have come across go together in two to three stages. It would seem that you are starting in reverse order for disassembly. There should at least be a center hub that has a finished nut of some sort that needs to be unscrewed to gain access to the rest of the unit. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:44:01 +0000, scott
wrote: Want to replace a ceiling fan which has a remote control. I unscrewed the three (on this model, there are only three) screws at the top of the canopy. It twists an inch to each side, but won't come down. It looks like the metal inside the screw holes (what the canopy screws into) is also moving. How can I get it unstuck? Twisting over and over isn't helping. If you are replacing a ceiling fan with a ceiling fan, I sure wouldn't take it down with a crowbar. Ceiling fans are heavy and have to have a very secure box. What is wrong with reading the instructions? A picture may help. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
replying to Metspitzer , scott wrote:
Kilowatt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:44:01 +0000, scott If you are replacing a ceiling fan with a ceiling fan, I sure wouldn't take it down with a crowbar. Ceiling fans are heavy and have to have a very secure box. What is wrong with reading the instructions? A picture may help. We bought this house a year ago, so the light was here, and we have no idea which model number (or even the company!). All we know is there is a remote inside, and it's not coming down. I have looked at other manuals and even called Hunter Fans, and the woman replied, "What do you mean you took out the screws and it won't come down, sir?" (Click). I don't know what you mean about two screws near the base and hub..I need an illustration. The lighting parts are off. Do I need to take off the fan motor? I don't know what that has to do with the canopy not sliding down. -- |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:44:01 AM UTC-5, scott wrote:
replying to Metspitzer , scott wrote: Kilowatt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:44:01 +0000, scott If you are replacing a ceiling fan with a ceiling fan, I sure wouldn't take it down with a crowbar. Ceiling fans are heavy and have to have a very secure box. What is wrong with reading the instructions? A picture may help. We bought this house a year ago, so the light was here, and we have no idea which model number (or even the company!). All we know is there is a remote inside, and it's not coming down. I have looked at other manuals and even called Hunter Fans, and the woman replied, "What do you mean you took out the screws and it won't come down, sir?" (Click). I don't know what you mean about two screws near the base and hub..I need an illustration. The lighting parts are off. Do I need to take off the fan motor? I don't know what that has to do with the canopy not sliding down. -- As others have suggested, I'd google for the install manual. That may have pics that show how the parts come together. As others have said, if the 3 screws are out and it rotates an inch, I don't see how caulk could be holding it in. Nor do I see the need for a crowbar. How is a crowbar even going to engage with it? A flat piece of wood to protect the ceiling and a wide blade screw driver, painter's 5 in one tool, etc would seem to be a better option. Get that in there and pry down. But first I'd try to find pics via the install manual. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:04:13 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:44:01 AM UTC-5, scott wrote: replying to Metspitzer , scott wrote: Kilowatt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:44:01 +0000, scott If you are replacing a ceiling fan with a ceiling fan, I sure wouldn't take it down with a crowbar. Ceiling fans are heavy and have to have a very secure box. What is wrong with reading the instructions? A picture may help. We bought this house a year ago, so the light was here, and we have no idea which model number (or even the company!). All we know is there is a remote inside, and it's not coming down. I have looked at other manuals and even called Hunter Fans, and the woman replied, "What do you mean you took out the screws and it won't come down, sir?" (Click). I don't know what you mean about two screws near the base and hub..I need an illustration. The lighting parts are off. Do I need to take off the fan motor? I don't know what that has to do with the canopy not sliding down. -- As others have suggested, I'd google for the install manual. That may have pics that show how the parts come together. As others have said, if the 3 screws are out and it rotates an inch, I don't see how caulk could be holding it in. Nor do I see the need for a crowbar. How is a crowbar even going to engage with it? A flat piece of wood to protect the ceiling and a wide blade screw driver, painter's 5 in one tool, etc would seem to be a better option. Get that in there and pry down. But first I'd try to find pics via the install manual. Here is a shot in the dark. https://www.google.com/search?q=ceil...11%3B300%3B443 Use Google Images and see if you can find a similar fan to the one you have. You will regret damaging the box you are mounting the new fan to. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On 01/24/2014 03:44 PM, scott wrote:
replying to John Grabowski , scott wrote: jgrabows1 wrote: *Can you post a few photos? Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I hired someone, and he couldn't get it down either. He thinks caulk got in and made everything stick. (The last owners caulked the canopy to the ceiling, it got on the screws too which I finally got out.) He's bringing a crowbar on Monday. Like I said, if the contractor plans to use a crowbar it's time for another contractor...he does not know what he's doing...and using a crowbar will of course ruin your ceiling and worse still...the mounting! If you want better help you should post a good, close up photo of as much of the interior section as you can get. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
replying to Metspitzer , scott wrote:
Kilowatt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:04:13 -0800 (PST), " Here is a shot in the dark. https://www.google.com/search?q=ceil...11%3B300%3B443 Use Google Images and see if you can find a similar fan to the one you have. You will regret damaging the box you are mounting the new fan to. I've spent much time on Google images looking for this already. Nothing like it. Huge glass dome bowl, with three pins to hold it...agonizing to change a light bulb, 'cause once two pins get in, you cannot (!) get the third side over a lip to fasten it (I just took that little part off after hours of trying.) Everything else in this white fan looks normal. By the way I really think the center pole and ball is only being held up by the canopy. but I can't figure out how the canopy was attached. -- |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:44:02 PM UTC-5, scott wrote:
replying to Metspitzer , scott wrote: Kilowatt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:04:13 -0800 (PST), " Here is a shot in the dark. https://www.google.com/search?q=ceil...11%3B300%3B443 Use Google Images and see if you can find a similar fan to the one you have. You will regret damaging the box you are mounting the new fan to. I've spent much time on Google images looking for this already. Nothing like it. Huge glass dome bowl, with three pins to hold it...agonizing to change a light bulb, 'cause once two pins get in, you cannot (!) get the third side over a lip to fasten it (I just took that little part off after hours of trying.) Everything else in this white fan looks normal. By the way I really think the center pole and ball is only being held up by the canopy. but I can't figure out how the canopy was attached. I seriously doubt the pole and ball is being held up by the canopy. The pole and ball sit in a subtantial metal hanger that is securely bolted to the electrical box. The canopy is essentially just a sheet metal cover. It couldn't support the weight, plus it would make it a bitch to install. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 23:44:02 +0000, scott
wrote: replying to Metspitzer , scott wrote: Kilowatt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:04:13 -0800 (PST), " Here is a shot in the dark. https://www.google.com/search?q=ceil...11%3B300%3B443 Use Google Images and see if you can find a similar fan to the one you have. You will regret damaging the box you are mounting the new fan to. I've spent much time on Google images looking for this already. Nothing like it. Huge glass dome bowl, with three pins to hold it...agonizing to change a light bulb, 'cause once two pins get in, you cannot (!) get the third side over a lip to fasten it (I just took that little part off after hours of trying.) Everything else in this white fan looks normal. By the way I really think the center pole and ball is only being held up by the canopy. but I can't figure out how the canopy was attached. Don't you have a digital camera? A photo would give us a chance to figure it out. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
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Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
philo* posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP On 01/24/2014 03:44 PM, scott wrote: replying to John Grabowski , scott wrote: jgrabows1 wrote: *Can you post a few photos? Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I hired someone, and he couldn't get it down either. He thinks caulk got in and made everything stick. (The last owners caulked the canopy to the ceiling, it got on the screws too which I finally got out.) He's bringing a crowbar on Monday. Tell him not to come back. No way is a crow bar needed. You just don't understand the situation... This is probably a Stumped project behind schedule and over budget. -- Tekkie |
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scott posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP Thank you to everyone who stayed with me through thick and thin (dramatic intro)... In the end, the man took down the canopy ("I have no idea how", he said.) There was a flat metal plate (with a green wire) attached to the ceiling. This plate had three "lips", and the canopy was put on and turned. The middle pole and ball were indeed being held up only by the canopy. (Must be a very old model.) So Metzspitzer was right...it should have just needed a turn to go past the lips and come down, but it wouldn't turn, and the plate was turning with it. Putting up the new one wasn't so easy, since the elec. box was far into the ceiling. But now it's done, thank you again for all of your comments. Stay tuned for episode two...the attic fan, where we explore why the controls are stashed deep out of reach into the rafters, thus preventing the fan from going on the entire summer. And the electricity is running...I found out the hard way. Ouch. I certainly hope that while this event took place you had the guy check to make certain it was a true ceiling fan box rather than some work-around. -- Tekkie |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
We were having the same problem. I found this blog and it helped us! We had to lift up in the unit so the canopy could turn. Now we can replace with something newer. Thanks so much!
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Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
replying to hiromismom, scottmar98 wrote:
It's been almost three years since I posted originally...there is a great lesson in this. Even though you might think that something is long forgotten, it can still be resurrected to help someone in need! So always post...no matter how trivial you might think it is! -- for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...py-781973-.htm |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:14:01 +0000, scottmar98 m wrote:
replying to hiromismom, scottmar98 wrote: It's been almost three years since I posted originally...there is a great lesson in this. Even though you might think that something is long forgotten, it can still be resurrected to help someone in need! So always post...no matter how trivial you might think it is! I forgot, what was the question again? |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 at 5:48:32 PM UTC-6, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:44:02 PM UTC-5, scott wrote: replying to Metspitzer , scott wrote: Kilowatt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:04:13 -0800 (PST), " Here is a shot in the dark. https://www.google.com/search?q=ceil...11%3B300%3B443 Use Google Images and see if you can find a similar fan to the one you have. You will regret damaging the box you are mounting the new fan to. I've spent much time on Google images looking for this already. Nothing like it. Huge glass dome bowl, with three pins to hold it...agonizing to change a light bulb, 'cause once two pins get in, you cannot (!) get the third side over a lip to fasten it (I just took that little part off after hours of trying.) Everything else in this white fan looks normal. By the way I really think the center pole and ball is only being held up by the canopy. but I can't figure out how the canopy was attached. I seriously doubt the pole and ball is being held up by the canopy. The pole and ball sit in a subtantial metal hanger that is securely bolted to the electrical box. The canopy is essentially just a sheet metal cover. It couldn't support the weight, plus it would make it a bitch to install. For those who seem to be sure the canopy cannot be the thing that supports the ball, downtube, and the entire fan, I can assure you that there are some Hunter fans that do in fact work this way. You first mount a stout plate to the ceiling. There is then a way to temporarily hang the fan while you make electrical connections. But eventually you end up attaching the canopy to the ceiling plate with three screws that do carry the entire weight of the fan. The final piece is snapping on a "canopy trim ring" that can sometimes be a real bitch to remove at a later date. Sometimes those trim rings work exactly the way they are supposed to, and sometimes they do not. |
Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
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Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
Somebody needs their diaper changed
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Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
The Hampton bay ceiling fan, took off canopy ring but no screws. So how can I get off to change the reciever.
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Cant remove ceiling fan canopy
On 1/31/2020 12:49 PM, wrote:
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