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Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived
last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 1/7/2014 10:51 AM, Snag wrote:
Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! My sister heats with wood. She says normally 12 or 13 face cord per year. So far they have been through 15 or more face, and hardly keeping the house comfortable. The wind is blowing all the heat away. I also had a frozen pipe, neglected to leave the water dripping. Sigh. and am presently charging the battery on my Blazer, which hasn't started yet this morning. Lucky the power is still on. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/7/2014 10:51 AM, Snag wrote: Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! My sister heats with wood. She says normally 12 or 13 face cord per year. So far they have been through 15 or more face, and hardly keeping the house comfortable. The wind is blowing all the heat away. I also had a frozen pipe, neglected to leave the water dripping. Sigh. and am presently charging the battery on my Blazer, which hasn't started yet this morning. Lucky the power is still on. The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote:
The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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"Snag" wrote in message ... Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! -- Snag There is a Snag on Adventure riders motorcycle site. Is that you?? WW --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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"Snag" wrote in message ... Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! "There is a Snag on Adventure riders motorcycle site. Is that you?? WW" No , but I do ride and am active on a couple of the Harley forums . -- Snag 1990 FLHTCU "Everything works but the cruise control" . --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 09:51:34 -0600, "Snag" wrote in
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 09:51:34 -0600, "Snag" wrote in This is unusual cold for this area What area is that? North central Arkansas . Stone County about 10 miles south of Mountain View , to be more exact . We're building a house in a clearing in the woods . Currently the "house" is connected by a hallway to the 25' camping trailer we've been living in . And the camper isn't well insulated , as it was never really intended for winter use . -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 14:18:13 -0600, "Snag" wrote:
This is unusual cold for this area What area is that? North central Arkansas . Stone County about 10 miles south of Mountain View , to be more exact . We're building a house in a clearing in the woods . Currently the "house" is connected by a hallway to the 25' camping trailer we've been living in . And the camper isn't well insulated , as it was never really intended for winter use . .... support your local hippie... shopdogsam. He lives on the East Coast of Arkansas. One real smart feller. A real hoot when he cooks. See his Youtube page for videos of all sorts. Maytag Gas Engines, Flywheel Engines and an electric mouse trap. Don't miss his fireside chats. http://www.youtube.com/user/shopdogsam?feature=watch |
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:09:55 -0600, "Snag" wrote:
WW wrote: "Snag" wrote in message ... Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! "There is a Snag on Adventure riders motorcycle site. Is that you?? WW" No , but I do ride and am active on a couple of the Harley forums . Wasn't Snag the 6th most poplular boy's name in 1972? |
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:34:55 -0600, "Snag" wrote:
The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . At least you delayed the freezing. I have one water tap that when left dripping, closes, and another that opens more. Aren't there some magic words to make them stay where they are? (only one is used for avoiding a frozen pipe, but it's still strange.) My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . The lowest it has gotten here is 8+ F. Arkansas should be a lot warmer than that. I wonder what went wrong? But if you're in Minnesota and have full strength anti-freeze (that is, 50/50) I heard on the news it will freeze at the temps they have there. (Wind chill has no effect unless your car sweats or you're pouring water on it that evaporates. If it freezes instead, I think the ice is a modest insulator.) |
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:09:55 -0600, "Snag" wrote: WW wrote: "Snag" wrote in message ... Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! "There is a Snag on Adventure riders motorcycle site. Is that you?? WW" No , but I do ride and am active on a couple of the Harley forums . Wasn't Snag the 6th most poplular boy's name in 1972? I don't know ... I got the nickname in 1963 at the age of 13 when I broke off a front tooth ... -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) Hey , the wife's '01 Mazda Tribute fired the first time too . But my '86 carbed GMC pickup is anudder animal ... -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Snag wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) Hey , the wife's '01 Mazda Tribute fired the first time too . But my '86 carbed GMC pickup is anudder animal ... Hi, -2 deg. is cold? No block heater for the engine? Even -20 deg. is nothing for us up here. Our cold is very, very dry cold. |
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On 1/7/2014 10:22 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) Reading your text reminded me of this classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6DrMkLNYKw Beach Boys, Little Deuce Coupe. That said, may have found the problem, dirty connection on the ignition coil, or the ignition module. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 22:47:48 -0600, "Snag" wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) Hey , the wife's '01 Mazda Tribute fired the first time too . But my '86 carbed GMC pickup is anudder animal ... The '96 4.0 Ranger growled a bit but fired on about the third turn. The 02 Taurus didn't turn twice before it started. The furnace ran 10 hours and 38 minutes- - - |
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On 1/7/2014 10:22 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I actually calculated the cost of idling and I'm willing to pay the few cents to have a warm car. I also put the seat heater switch in the "on" position to get that started too. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/7/2014 10:22 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I actually calculated the cost of idling and I'm willing to pay the few cents to have a warm car. I also put the seat heater switch in the "on" position to get that started too. Hi, Driving warms up car faster. My wife's car has auto climate control which blows hot air almost right away. I start engin,e as soon as hi idle speed drops I drive away. |
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Tony Hwang wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/7/2014 10:22 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I actually calculated the cost of idling and I'm willing to pay the few cents to have a warm car. I also put the seat heater switch in the "on" position to get that started too. Hi, Driving warms up car faster. My wife's car has auto climate control which blows hot air almost right away. I start engin,e as soon as hi idle speed drops I drive away. Sure, driving warms the car faster, but I'd still have to be in the cold car while it heated up. As long as I start it early enough, I can go from a nice warm house to a nice warm car with no ice on the windows, etc. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/7/2014 10:22 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I actually calculated the cost of idling and I'm willing to pay the few cents to have a warm car. I also put the seat heater switch in the "on" position to get that started too. My trucks seats also start warming up on auto start, if it's cold. That's nice. Side mirrors also. Greg |
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On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:05:50 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 1/7/2014 10:51 AM, Snag wrote: Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! My sister heats with wood. She says normally 12 or 13 face cord per year. So far they have been through 15 or more face, and hardly keeping the house comfortable. The wind is blowing all the heat away. That can't be! We all know that windchill only affects animate objects! |
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 03:22:59 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I've never had a car, that didn't have something wrong with it, that didn't start, even below -20F. I have had batteries fail, unexpectedly (well, I should have expected) at much higher temperatures but if the car is in good working order it should start at much temperatures *much* below what you've seen. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I don't like them because I've been burned by them killing the battery. No thanks. The wasted gas is a plus. It ****es off the greenies. |
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On 1/7/2014 10:51 AM, Snag wrote:
Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! It has warmed up here...21F....so we went for a ride, ran some errands, came home along a lake near home in time to see three bald eagles out on the ice looking for lunch. One adult and two juveniles. This is north-central Indiana. It's snowing again, adding to about 17" from two previous storms. |
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Norminn wrote:
On 1/7/2014 10:51 AM, Snag wrote: Sure takes a lot of firewood when it's only 3* outside . But we survived last night , even though the water supply is frozen . I sure am glad I have an onboard fresh water tank and a pump ! This is unusual cold for this area , hasn't been this cold since I think they said 1996 . I hope it's at least another 18 years before it happens again ! It has warmed up here...21F....so we went for a ride, ran some errands, came home along a lake near home in time to see three bald eagles out on the ice looking for lunch. One adult and two juveniles. This is north-central Indiana. It's snowing again, adding to about 17" from two previous storms. No snow here , just a layer of ice over everything . Roads are *extremely* slippery - my wife who is a very good slick road driver spun out last night on her way home from work , ended up with her SUV on it's side in the ditch .. Whole right side is damaged , and right now it's sitting along side the road in a yard right where she went off waiting for any fliuds to drain back down where they belong . Wouldn't do to bend a rod of something due to hydraulic lock in a cylinder . -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 1/9/2014 4:03 PM, Snag wrote:
No snow here , just a layer of ice over everything . Roads are *extremely* slippery - my wife who is a very good slick road driver spun out last night on her way home from work , ended up with her SUV on it's side in the ditch .. Whole right side is damaged , and right now it's sitting along side the road in a yard right where she went off waiting for any fliuds to drain back down where they belong . Wouldn't do to bend a rod of something due to hydraulic lock in a cylinder . Very sad to hear that. I hope no one was injured? NYS has ice, now and again. It's no fun. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/9/2014 4:03 PM, Snag wrote: No snow here , just a layer of ice over everything . Roads are *extremely* slippery - my wife who is a very good slick road driver spun out last night on her way home from work , ended up with her SUV on it's side in the ditch .. Whole right side is damaged , and right now it's sitting along side the road in a yard right where she went off waiting for any fliuds to drain back down where they belong . Wouldn't do to bend a rod of something due to hydraulic lock in a cylinder . Very sad to hear that. I hope no one was injured? NYS has ice, now and again. It's no fun. Hi, Good, she is not hurt, I sure hope. Even we Canucks fear the black ice most. All my family vehicles have good set of winter tires and AWD power train. Wife's can lock into real 4WD. So far no problems. Today 2 deg. Celsius, tomorrow will be around 7 deg. C. Melting like crazy. Chinook condition. |
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On 1/9/2014 4:52 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi, Good, she is not hurt, I sure hope. Even we Canucks fear the black ice most. All my family vehicles have good set of winter tires and AWD power train. Wife's can lock into real 4WD. So far no problems. Today 2 deg. Celsius, tomorrow will be around 7 deg. C. Melting like crazy. Chinook condition. For sure, that black ice (clear ice for netpicks) is really dangerous. Can catch folks by surprise, and make for trouble. The guy across the street just got home. Took a crew along the Thruway, today, and saw three big rigs off the road. Even professional drivers have wrecks. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/9/2014 4:03 PM, Snag wrote: No snow here , just a layer of ice over everything . Roads are *extremely* slippery - my wife who is a very good slick road driver spun out last night on her way home from work , ended up with her SUV on it's side in the ditch .. Whole right side is damaged , and right now it's sitting along side the road in a yard right where she went off waiting for any fliuds to drain back down where they belong . Wouldn't do to bend a rod of something due to hydraulic lock in a cylinder . Very sad to hear that. I hope no one was injured? NYS has ice, now and again. It's no fun. She's OK , one bruise from the seat belt and a couple of bruises from where she slipped and fell down . It was so slick last night and this morning that if there was the slightest slope you slid downhill . This one was so bad because it was freezing rain falling on frozen ground . It makes me wonder , how can it be raining when the air temp is like 29* ? Why isn't it SNOW by the time it hits ? -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Tony Hwang wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/9/2014 4:03 PM, Snag wrote: No snow here , just a layer of ice over everything . Roads are *extremely* slippery - my wife who is a very good slick road driver spun out last night on her way home from work , ended up with her SUV on it's side in the ditch .. Whole right side is damaged , and right now it's sitting along side the road in a yard right where she went off waiting for any fliuds to drain back down where they belong . Wouldn't do to bend a rod of something due to hydraulic lock in a cylinder . Very sad to hear that. I hope no one was injured? NYS has ice, now and again. It's no fun. Hi, Good, she is not hurt, I sure hope. Even we Canucks fear the black ice most. All my family vehicles have good set of winter tires and AWD power train. Wife's can lock into real 4WD. So far no problems. Today 2 deg. Celsius, tomorrow will be around 7 deg. C. Melting like crazy. Chinook condition. Her car is a Mazda Tribute , same thing as a Ford Escape . And she had it locked in 4WD when this happened . Thing is that AWD/4WD may help the GO , but it don't do squat for the SLOW . The only thing that would've helped in this situation is chains or studded tires . I may have to invest in another set of rims , with studded snow tires for winter use . -- Snag --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Snag wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/9/2014 4:03 PM, Snag wrote: No snow here , just a layer of ice over everything . Roads are *extremely* slippery - my wife who is a very good slick road driver spun out last night on her way home from work , ended up with her SUV on it's side in the ditch .. Whole right side is damaged , and right now it's sitting along side the road in a yard right where she went off waiting for any fliuds to drain back down where they belong . Wouldn't do to bend a rod of something due to hydraulic lock in a cylinder . Very sad to hear that. I hope no one was injured? NYS has ice, now and again. It's no fun. She's OK , one bruise from the seat belt and a couple of bruises from where she slipped and fell down . It was so slick last night and this morning that if there was the slightest slope you slid downhill . This one was so bad because it was freezing rain falling on frozen ground . It makes me wonder , how can it be raining when the air temp is like 29* ? Why isn't it SNOW by the time it hits ? Hi, I believe because water drops coming down thru the cold air is too big to freeze or become snow. Here they banned studded tires due to road surface damage it causes. Good winter tires like Blizzak is really good but it wears like crazy. Barely it lasts two seasons. We usually depend on Michellin X Ice from Costco. Mine is due for new set next year. |
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 03:22:59 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I've never had a car, that didn't have something wrong with it, that didn't start, even below -20F. I have had batteries fail, unexpectedly (well, I should have expected) at much higher temperatures but if the car is in good working order it should start at much temperatures *much* below what you've seen. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I don't like them because I've been burned by them killing the battery. No thanks. Why do you say "them"? Didn't you once say: "We've had one. That was enough to cure me of that particular laziness." Liar? |
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On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:08:36 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote: Snag wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/9/2014 4:03 PM, Snag wrote: No snow here , just a layer of ice over everything . Roads are *extremely* slippery - my wife who is a very good slick road driver spun out last night on her way home from work , ended up with her SUV on it's side in the ditch .. Whole right side is damaged , and right now it's sitting along side the road in a yard right where she went off waiting for any fliuds to drain back down where they belong . Wouldn't do to bend a rod of something due to hydraulic lock in a cylinder . Very sad to hear that. I hope no one was injured? NYS has ice, now and again. It's no fun. She's OK , one bruise from the seat belt and a couple of bruises from where she slipped and fell down . It was so slick last night and this morning that if there was the slightest slope you slid downhill . This one was so bad because it was freezing rain falling on frozen ground . It makes me wonder , how can it be raining when the air temp is like 29* ? Why isn't it SNOW by the time it hits ? Hi, I believe because water drops coming down thru the cold air is too big to freeze or become snow. Here they banned studded tires due to road surface damage it causes. Good winter tires like Blizzak is really good but it wears like crazy. Barely it lasts two seasons. We usually depend on Michellin X Ice from Costco. Mine is due for new set next year. I get about 5 seasons out of my Goodyear Graspics I find their ice traction lasts longer than Blizzaks - might be a WEE bit poorer the first year, but better the second, and definitely the third and forth.. Had the Blizzaks on daughters colt, Graspics on her neon, Wife's Mistique, my TransSport, my PT Cruizer, and now my Ranger. Just a set of Tiger Paw Touring All Seasons on my wife's Taurus - but if it snows badly she doesn't need to go anywhere - she's retired now. If we HAVE to go somewhere we take the truck. |
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On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:10:25 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 1/9/2014 4:52 PM, Tony Hwang wrote: Hi, Good, she is not hurt, I sure hope. Even we Canucks fear the black ice most. All my family vehicles have good set of winter tires and AWD power train. Wife's can lock into real 4WD. So far no problems. Today 2 deg. Celsius, tomorrow will be around 7 deg. C. Melting like crazy. Chinook condition. For sure, that black ice (clear ice for netpicks) is really dangerous. Can catch folks by surprise, and make for trouble. The guy across the street just got home. Took a crew along the Thruway, today, and saw three big rigs off the road. Even professional drivers have wrecks. I remember back in abot '71 when they outlawed studs here in Ontario. I had studs on the Valiant - could go anywhere. Then I got the '69 Dart - and non-studded snows. Driving down Sawmill Road between Conestogo and Bloomingdale, down along the river, and I thought I must have a flat tire - the car was going all squirrelly. I was driving slowly - not in any hurry (for once) to get anywhere. I got out of the car to check the tires and promptly ended up flat on my ass on the road. It was so slippery I could not stand up. I got back into the car, managed to get rolling, and headed for higher ground where the mist coming off the river didn't freeze on the road. |
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 23:47:10 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 03:22:59 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I've never had a car, that didn't have something wrong with it, that didn't start, even below -20F. I have had batteries fail, unexpectedly (well, I should have expected) at much higher temperatures but if the car is in good working order it should start at much temperatures *much* below what you've seen. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I don't like them because I've been burned by them killing the battery. No thanks. Why do you say "them"? Didn't you once say: "We've had one. That was enough to cure me of that particular laziness." It's a well known problem. They (after market) will void warranties. Liar? Stupid? Illiterate? Sure, of course you are. |
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 23:47:10 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote: wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 03:22:59 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03 wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/7/2014 11:34 AM, Snag wrote: The camper loses a lot of heat , it was never meant for winter use . But we've got a few thousand trees , quite a lot of standing and downed dead wood . That should get me thru the winter , we'll be better prepared next year . And we DID leave a faucet dripping , just not quite enough flow . My truck too is on the charger , wouldn't kick over earlier . I also hung a 75W incan light bulb down between the rad and motor and threw a cover over the hood area . I had slush in the radiator , but apparently not enough in the motor to lock up the water pump . Sorry to hear the cold is giving you trouble. I wonder if I have any filament light bulbs I can leave under the hood. Today I did use a ceramic space heater to help thaw pipes. My truck won't start on ether, so my main mechanic suggests some heat on the distributor cap, in case there is water in there. I'm not bragging or anything, but it was -2 this morning and both my '04 and my wife's '05 started with one push of the remote from my nice warm living room. My daughter had to go out and start her '02, but it turned over on the first try. My wife's car usually stalls right after starting when it's below 20 or so, but the remote automatically tries again and it always stays running on the second try. I've never had a car, that didn't have something wrong with it, that didn't start, even below -20F. I have had batteries fail, unexpectedly (well, I should have expected) at much higher temperatures but if the car is in good working order it should start at much temperatures *much* below what you've seen. I know I'm wasting gas/money, but it's safer to drive when you're not shivering. ;-) I don't like them because I've been burned by them killing the battery. No thanks. Why do you say "them"? Didn't you once say: "We've had one. That was enough to cure me of that particular laziness." It's a well known problem. They (after market) will void warranties. First - WTF? Where did I say anything about warranties? I quoted a line form one of your posts regarding the "one" remote starter you had and then asked why you said "I've burned by _them_ killing the battery." It was a single vs. multiple question. Did you bring up warranties to avoid answering the specific question I asked? Liar? Stupid? Illiterate? Sure, of course you are. Mirror mirror on the wall... |
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On 1/9/2014 5:22 PM, Snag wrote:
She's OK , one bruise from the seat belt and a couple of bruises from where she slipped and fell down . It was so slick last night and this morning that if there was the slightest slope you slid downhill . This one was so bad because it was freezing rain falling on frozen ground . It makes me wonder , how can it be raining when the air temp is like 29* ? Why isn't it SNOW by the time it hits ? I've wondered why NYS gets 35F and snowing. Guess some things will never really be explained to me. Anyhow, I suspect the groundhog will determine that we have another six weeks of winter. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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"Snag" wrote:
This one was so bad because it was freezing rain falling on frozen ground . It makes me wonder , how can it be raining when the air temp is like 29* ? Why isn't it SNOW by the time it hits ? Actually, freezing rain can't "fall" on anything. In a nutshell... All precipitation basically starts out as snow crystals inside of a cloud. What happens after the crystals leave the cloud determines what we get at ground level. Snow: If the crystals pass through air that stays below freezing from the cloud to the ground, it remains as snow all the way to the ground and we have to shovel it. Rain: If the crystals pass through air that is warm enough to melt it and that warm layer extends all the way to the ground, it remains as rain and we get wet. Freezing Rain: If the crystals pass through air that is warm enough to melt it, but there is a very shallow layer of air that is below freezing close to ground level, the rain freezes when it lands on the sub-freezing surface of trees, cars, roads, etc. and we slide off the road, lose power due to downed wires, etc. Sleet: If the crystals pass through air that is warm enough to melt it and then pass through air that is cold enough and "deep" enough to refreeze it, we get hit by little ice pellets that sting our faces. Hail: If the crystals pass through air that is warm enough to melt it and an updraft sends the water droplets back up into the cloud, the water freezes on the ice crystals in the cloud, forming an ice pellet. If this "come down, get wet, go back up and freeze" cycle happens again, the ice pellet gets a little bigger. If it happens multiple times, and the pellets get very big, we end up with dented cars, broken windows and headaches. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/9/2014 5:22 PM, Snag wrote: She's OK , one bruise from the seat belt and a couple of bruises from where she slipped and fell down . It was so slick last night and this morning that if there was the slightest slope you slid downhill . This one was so bad because it was freezing rain falling on frozen ground . It makes me wonder , how can it be raining when the air temp is like 29* ? Why isn't it SNOW by the time it hits ? I've wondered why NYS gets 35F and snowing. Guess some things will never really be explained to me. All precipitation begins as snow crystals in a cloud. In order for snow to remain as snow all the way to the ground, it must never pass through a layer of above-freezing air that is deep enough to melt it. That "deep enough" criteria explains why we get snow when it's 35*. If the layer of 35* air is very close to the ground then it will not be deep enough to melt the snow before it hits the ground. The term "very close" is relative. The colder the upper layers of air are, the "deeper" the layer of warm air near the ground must be before the snow will turn to rain. |
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