LiFI bulb
 

Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.
http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo
The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll
all freeze to death without global warming.

LiFI bulb
 

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent. Or...

HB

LiFI bulb
 

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...ly-low-levels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

LiFI bulb
 

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:21:27 -0500, Dean Hoffman
" wrote:


Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.
http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo
The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll
all freeze to death without global warming.

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same way
it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/2013 9:13 AM, micky wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:21:27 -0500, Dean Hoffman
" wrote:


Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.
http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo The really good news is the bulb is an
LED. The bad news is we'll all freeze to death without global
warming.

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

TDD

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/19/2013 11:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...ly-low-levels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.


At least he can quit worrying about his leaky toilet.

LiFI bulb
 

"micky" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:21:27 -0500, Dean Hoffman
" wrote:


Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.
http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo
The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll
all freeze to death without global warming.

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same way
it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?

It sound so good but one problem it may have embedded in it camera

Caution!!! you better not have any orgy or make love while lights are light

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:50:48 -0400, Frank
wrote:

On 10/19/2013 11:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...ly-low-levels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.


At least he can quit worrying about his leaky toilet.

His? HB is an old bag.

LiFI bulb
 

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed away
by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent.
Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...ne-of-the-leas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-historically-low-le
vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains poster child

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/13 01:46 pm, Oren wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

Some setups were economically unprofitable. Some did not work well. Some
generated so much interference to other communication services (think of
overhead power lines as giant transmitting antennas) that they had to be
shut down.

Perce

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:59:39 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 10/20/13 01:46 pm, Oren wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

Some setups were economically unprofitable. Some did not work well. Some
generated so much interference to other communication services (think of
overhead power lines as giant transmitting antennas) that they had to be
shut down.

Perce

.... I kind of knew it when I heard it

Oren

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed away
by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent.
Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...ne-of-the-leas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-historically-low-le
vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains poster child

Yes, Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for statistics,
though. It has to be positive.

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:46:05 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

Reality.

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:51:56 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:59:39 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 10/20/13 01:46 pm, Oren wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

Some setups were economically unprofitable. Some did not work well. Some
generated so much interference to other communication services (think of
overhead power lines as giant transmitting antennas) that they had to be
shut down.

Perce

... I kind of knew it when I heard it


Actually, we did get it, sorta. Power line right-of-way is the
perfect place to run fiber. Global Crossing laid a ton of it (oops).
Well, I guess you would call it broadband under power lines or in GCs
case, dark over fiber. ;-)

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/13 9:38 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 10/20/2013 9:13 AM, micky wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:21:27 -0500, Dean Hoffman
" wrote:


Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.
http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo The really good news is the bulb is an
LED. The bad news is we'll all freeze to death without global
warming.

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

TDD


Disco balls and mirrors. Donna Summer, Bee Gees, and The Disco Duck.

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:20:31 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:46:05 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

Reality.

A guy from Area 51, the place used that never existed.

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/2013 12:46 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...


Years ago, a friend of mine was an engineer with the power company
communications division and he told me that the company was using its
power lines to carry communications. Possibly data but this was long
before The Internet and the need or gear for high speed broad band
communication. ^_^

TDD

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/2013 7:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:51:56 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:59:39 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 10/20/13 01:46 pm, Oren wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

Some setups were economically unprofitable. Some did not work well. Some
generated so much interference to other communication services (think of
overhead power lines as giant transmitting antennas) that they had to be
shut down.

Perce

... I kind of knew it when I heard it


Actually, we did get it, sorta. Power line right-of-way is the
perfect place to run fiber. Global Crossing laid a ton of it (oops).
Well, I guess you would call it broadband under power lines or in GCs
case, dark over fiber. ;-)


I remember hearing there was a lot of "dark" fiber optic lines around
the country and I wonder if it's still the case. Of course fiber
installed years ago may be obsolete by now and or degraded. o_O

TDD

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/2013 7:43 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 10/20/13 9:38 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 10/20/2013 9:13 AM, micky wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:21:27 -0500, Dean Hoffman
" wrote:


Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.
http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo The really good news is the bulb is an
LED. The bad news is we'll all freeze to death without global
warming.

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

TDD


Disco balls and mirrors. Donna Summer, Bee Gees, and The Disco
Duck.

That would make it lots of fun but disco music gets to be irritating
after a while. You gotta mix it up a little. ^_^

TDD

LiFI bulb
 

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed
away
by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent.
Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...s-one-of-the-l
eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-historically-low
-le
vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains poster child

Yes, Malformed
...

thank you for admitting it

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/13 10:47 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 10/20/2013 12:46 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:


Years ago, a friend of mine was an engineer with the power company
communications division and he told me that the company was using its
power lines to carry communications. Possibly data but this was long
before The Internet and the need or gear for high speed broad band
communication. ^_^

TDD

So is that how the smart meters work with the main power company
office?
I read long ago the transformers were one place internet
communications over power lines experienced difficulties.

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/21/2013 5:42 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 10/20/13 10:47 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 10/20/2013 12:46 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:


Years ago, a friend of mine was an engineer with the power company
communications division and he told me that the company was using its
power lines to carry communications. Possibly data but this was long
before The Internet and the need or gear for high speed broad band
communication. ^_^

TDD

So is that how the smart meters work with the main power company
office?
I read long ago the transformers were one place internet
communications over power lines experienced difficulties.


I haven't done a long in depth study of smart meters but it's my
understanding that the meters constitute a distributed wireless
communications network which sends information from one end of the
network to the other. Some anti smart meter folks are covering the meter
housing with aluminum foil to block the signal. I may get bored one day
and research hacking the wireless network. ^_^

TDD

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/20/2013 11:51 AM, Tony944 wrote:

*It sound so good but one problem it may have embedded in it camera *
**
*Caution!!! you better not have any orgy or make love while lights are
light*

They have a solution to that problem. It involves a supercapacitor and
IR emitter...

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get washed
away
by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer but much more violent.
Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...s-one-of-the-l
eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-historically-low
-le
vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work (no one
can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me help you.

Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for statistics,
though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what idiots
Google Groupies are. I'll just mark it up to you, Malformed, being
the typical lefty DUMB****.

LiFI bulb
 

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:53:14 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 10/20/2013 7:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:51:56 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:59:39 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 10/20/13 01:46 pm, Oren wrote:

Sounds good but I don't get it. The light takes the signal from the
bulb to the computer, but how does it get to the bulb? The same
way it does now, the phone company, cable, satellite?


I would imagine a hard wired interface to bulb #1 then all bulbs in
sight of each other act as repeaters or like cell towers in a
distributed communications network. ^_^

I recall some years ago when "broadband over power line deployments"
would be the next big thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

Wonder what happened...

Some setups were economically unprofitable. Some did not work well. Some
generated so much interference to other communication services (think of
overhead power lines as giant transmitting antennas) that they had to be
shut down.

Perce

... I kind of knew it when I heard it


Actually, we did get it, sorta. Power line right-of-way is the
perfect place to run fiber. Global Crossing laid a ton of it (oops).
Well, I guess you would call it broadband under power lines or in GCs
case, dark over fiber. ;-)


I remember hearing there was a lot of "dark" fiber optic lines around
the country and I wonder if it's still the case. Of course fiber
installed years ago may be obsolete by now and or degraded. o_O

Yes, yes, and yes. It's cheaper to pull new fiber than use the dark
stuff. A lot of it has questionable heritage, too.

LiFI bulb
 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:17:23 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 10/21/2013 5:42 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 10/20/13 10:47 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 10/20/2013 12:46 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:


Years ago, a friend of mine was an engineer with the power company
communications division and he told me that the company was using its
power lines to carry communications. Possibly data but this was long
before The Internet and the need or gear for high speed broad band
communication. ^_^

TDD

So is that how the smart meters work with the main power company
office?
I read long ago the transformers were one place internet
communications over power lines experienced difficulties.


I haven't done a long in depth study of smart meters but it's my
understanding that the meters constitute a distributed wireless
communications network which sends information from one end of the
network to the other. Some anti smart meter folks are covering the meter
housing with aluminum foil to block the signal. I may get bored one day
and research hacking the wireless network. ^_^

There are several methods. Most use a "mesh", like you describe. Each
meter talks with its neighbors. The signal is repeated across this
"mesh" and eventually gets to a hub that forwards the information to
the central office. The individual meters don't have to transmit very
far, only to the adjacent meter in the "mesh". Power line
communications can be used, too. The data payload is very modest so,
unlike Internet traffic, the data rates need not be high.

LiFI bulb
 

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman
wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get
washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer
but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...013-ranks-as-o
ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-histo
rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work (no one
can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google, which
should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to determine



Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for
statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I'll just mark it up to you, Malformed, being the typical lefty
DUMB****.


apparently your inability to do research has left you further
confounded

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/21/2013 1:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:17:23 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 10/21/2013 5:42 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 10/20/13 10:47 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 10/20/2013 12:46 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:


Years ago, a friend of mine was an engineer with the power
company communications division and he told me that the
company was using its power lines to carry communications.
Possibly data but this was long before The Internet and the
need or gear for high speed broad band communication. ^_^

TDD

So is that how the smart meters work with the main power company
office? I read long ago the transformers were one place internet
communications over power lines experienced difficulties.


I haven't done a long in depth study of smart meters but it's my
understanding that the meters constitute a distributed wireless
communications network which sends information from one end of the
network to the other. Some anti smart meter folks are covering
the meter housing with aluminum foil to block the signal. I may
get bored one day and research hacking the wireless network. ^_^

There are several methods. Most use a "mesh", like you describe.
Each meter talks with its neighbors. The signal is repeated across
this "mesh" and eventually gets to a hub that forwards the
information to the central office. The individual meters don't have
to transmit very far, only to the adjacent meter in the "mesh". Power
line communications can be used, too. The data payload is very
modest so, unlike Internet traffic, the data rates need not be high.


I remember hooking up to a remote computer with my 1200 baud modem just
for the hell of it and nostalgia purposes. Oh yea, I was using one of my
dumb terminals. The stuff still works and I wonder if it would be a good
way to screw with the minds of those who may be eavesdropping? ^_^

TDD

LiFI bulb
 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:04:40 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman
wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get
washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer
but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...013-ranks-as-o
ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-histo
rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work (no one
can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google, which
should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to determine

The conclusion, then, is that you're a damned liar. Thank you for
admitting it.


Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for
statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I thought you had an excuse. You don't. You're just a liar, as we
all knew.

I'll just mark it up to you, Malformed, being the typical lefty
DUMB****.


apparently your inability to do research has left you further
confounded

Didn't look, just was going to give you the benefit of the doubt but
it's nice that you admitted that you're just a damned liar.

LiFI bulb
 

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:04:40 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman
wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get
washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer
but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...013-ranks-as-o
ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-histo
rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work (no one
can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google, which
should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to determine

The conclusion, then, is that you're a damned liar. Thank you for
admitting it.

you offer no proof, yet call me a liar? what better definition for a
fundie could there be?




Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for
statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I thought you had an excuse. You don't. You're just a liar, as we
all knew.

you can repeat it as often as you want herr goebbels, but it still won't
make it true



I'll just mark it up to you, Malformed, being the typical lefty
DUMB****.


apparently your inability to do research has left you further
confounded

Didn't look, just was going to give you the benefit of the doubt but
it's nice that you admitted that you're just a damned liar.

I can't be responsible for your illiteracy

LiFI bulb
 

On 10/22/2013 12:05 AM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:04:40 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman
wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get
washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer
but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...013-ranks-as-o
ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-histo
rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work (no one
can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google, which
should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to determine

The conclusion, then, is that you're a damned liar. Thank you for
admitting it.

you offer no proof, yet call me a liar? what better definition for a
fundie could there be?




Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for
statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I thought you had an excuse. You don't. You're just a liar, as we
all knew.

you can repeat it as often as you want herr goebbels, but it still won't
make it true


Oh look everybody! Malcom brought up the "N" word, "Nazi" in his/her/its
post. I'm sure it, like all P.L.L.C.F. know that Nazi was the "National
Socialist Party" who took over everything in Germany way
back when including health care. It's just like Democrats refusing to
admit THEY spawned The KKK. ^_^

TDD

LiFI bulb
 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:05:23 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:04:40 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman
wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get
washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer
but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...013-ranks-as-o
ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-histo
rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work (no one
can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google, which
should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to determine

The conclusion, then, is that you're a damned liar. Thank you for
admitting it.

you offer no proof, yet call me a liar? what better definition for a
fundie could there be?

It's all you do, Malformed. I just set it up and you walked right into
it. Proving that not only are you a liar, but you're a dumb****.


Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for
statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I thought you had an excuse. You don't. You're just a liar, as we
all knew.

you can repeat it as often as you want herr goebbels, but it still won't
make it true

It's not I that makes it true, Malformed. You do that all by
yourself.

I'll just mark it up to you, Malformed, being the typical lefty
DUMB****.


apparently your inability to do research has left you further
confounded

Didn't look, just was going to give you the benefit of the doubt but
it's nice that you admitted that you're just a damned liar.

I can't be responsible for your illiteracy

I'm not responsible for your constant lying, Malformed. That's all on
you.

LiFI bulb
 

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:30:08 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 10/22/2013 12:05 AM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:04:40 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean Hoffman
wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or get
washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be fewer
but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...013-ranks-as-o
ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-histo
rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work (no one
can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google, which
should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to determine

The conclusion, then, is that you're a damned liar. Thank you for
admitting it.

you offer no proof, yet call me a liar? what better definition for a
fundie could there be?




Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this post
is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed for
statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I thought you had an excuse. You don't. You're just a liar, as we
all knew.

you can repeat it as often as you want herr goebbels, but it still won't
make it true


Oh look everybody! Malcom brought up the "N" word, "Nazi" in his/her/its
post. I'm sure it, like all P.L.L.C.F. know that Nazi was the "National
Socialist Party" who took over everything in Germany way
back when including health care. It's just like Democrats refusing to
admit THEY spawned The KKK. ^_^

Spawned? The KKK was 100% Democrat.

LiFI bulb
 

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:30:08 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

It's just like Democrats refusing to
admit THEY spawned The KKK. ^_^

....they spawned gun control, too. You know; it isn't morally right
for a Negro to have a legal gun, under the law, to protect his family
and possessions on moral grounds.
--
"People who worry about crocodiles are smart!" -Joe Machi

LiFI bulb
 

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:37:49 -0400, wrote:

Spawned? The KKK was 100% Democrat.

.... one of them was a United States Senator, that was active.

Robert Carlyle Byrd was a United States Senator from West Virginia.

LiFI bulb
 

In article ,
The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 10/22/2013 12:05 AM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:04:40 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean
Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or
get washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be
fewer but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...y-2013-ranks-a
s-o ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-hi
sto rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work
(no one can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me
help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google,
which should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to
determine

The conclusion, then, is that you're a damned liar. Thank you for
admitting it.

you offer no proof, yet call me a liar? what better definition for
a fundie could there be?




Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this
post is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed
for statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I thought you had an excuse. You don't. You're just a liar, as
we all knew.

you can repeat it as often as you want herr goebbels, but it still
won't make it true


Oh look everybody! Malcom brought up the "N" word, "Nazi" in
his/her/its post. I'm sure it, like all P.L.L.C.F. know that Nazi was
the "National Socialist Party" who took over everything in Germany
way back when including health care.



actually you just brought up the N word, I was just comparing krwless
to goebbels "if you tell a big enough lie enough times..." attempt, but
do keep playing


It's just like Democrats refusing to admit THEY spawned The KKK. ^_^

or the conservatives refusing to admit that the KKK is primarily made up
of xians, those peace loving hypocrites



TDD

LiFI bulb
 

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:37:49 -0400, wrote:

Spawned? The KKK was 100% Democrat.


....by the way. The KKK was spawned in the North.

The movement came South for Democrats to join.

First was the retried military in the North. (Land of Lincoln?)

LiFI bulb
 

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:45:22 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 10/22/2013 12:05 AM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:04:40 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:19:12 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:34:28 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:21:27 PM UTC-7, Dean
Hoffman wrote:
Chinese scientists have invented a bulb that emits WiFI.

http://tinyurl.com/otxy7fo

The really good news is the bulb is an LED. The bad
news is we'll

all freeze to death without global warming.

More likely roast to death or die of thirst or hunger, Or
get washed away by the next megastorm which are going to be
fewer but much more violent. Or...

You mean like this year, old bag?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/...y-2013-ranks-a
s-o ne-of-th e-l eas
t-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-hi
sto rically- low -le vels/

It's amazing how easily you lefties are led by the nose.

lies, damn lies and statistics. LOL, you fundies are twains
poster child

Yes, Malformed
..

thank you for admitting it

Well, Malformed, apparently you can't even get Google to work
(no one can use it properly - so only idiots use it) so let me
help you.

thank you for admitting your ignorance...I don't use google,
which should have been pretty easy, even for a fundie, to
determine

The conclusion, then, is that you're a damned liar. Thank you for
admitting it.

you offer no proof, yet call me a liar? what better definition for
a fundie could there be?




Here is what you snipped:
Malformed, you have the lies and damned lies down pat (this
post is no exception). You haven't the intelligence needed
for statistics, though. It has to be positive.

I won't accuse you of lying this time, because we all know what
idiots Google Groupies are.

but not as stupid as those that accuse people of using google

I thought you had an excuse. You don't. You're just a liar, as
we all knew.

you can repeat it as often as you want herr goebbels, but it still
won't make it true


Oh look everybody! Malcom brought up the "N" word, "Nazi" in
his/her/its post. I'm sure it, like all P.L.L.C.F. know that Nazi was
the "National Socialist Party" who took over everything in Germany
way back when including health care.



actually you just brought up the N word, I was just comparing krwless
to goebbels "if you tell a big enough lie enough times..." attempt, but
do keep playing


It's just like Democrats refusing to admit THEY spawned The KKK. ^_^

or the conservatives refusing to admit that the KKK is primarily made up
of xians, those peace loving hypocrites

No, Malformed, lying is your specialty. You're not even a good liar.

LiFI bulb
 

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:14:11 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 10/21/2013 1:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:17:23 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 10/21/2013 5:42 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 10/20/13 10:47 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 10/20/2013 12:46 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:38:41 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:


Years ago, a friend of mine was an engineer with the power
company communications division and he told me that the
company was using its power lines to carry communications.
Possibly data but this was long before The Internet and the
need or gear for high speed broad band communication. ^_^

TDD

So is that how the smart meters work with the main power company
office? I read long ago the transformers were one place internet
communications over power lines experienced difficulties.


I haven't done a long in depth study of smart meters but it's my
understanding that the meters constitute a distributed wireless
communications network which sends information from one end of the
network to the other. Some anti smart meter folks are covering
the meter housing with aluminum foil to block the signal. I may
get bored one day and research hacking the wireless network. ^_^

There are several methods. Most use a "mesh", like you describe.
Each meter talks with its neighbors. The signal is repeated across
this "mesh" and eventually gets to a hub that forwards the
information to the central office. The individual meters don't have
to transmit very far, only to the adjacent meter in the "mesh". Power
line communications can be used, too. The data payload is very
modest so, unlike Internet traffic, the data rates need not be high.


I remember hooking up to a remote computer with my 1200 baud modem just
for the hell of it and nostalgia purposes. Oh yea, I was using one of my
dumb terminals. The stuff still works and I wonder if it would be a good
way to screw with the minds of those who may be eavesdropping? ^_^

Was there anything for you to connect to?

1200bps modems are still in wide use, but for things like ATMs and
credit card readers where it takes longer for a high-speed modem to
negotiate the protocol than for a 1200bps modem to complete the
transaction.