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Bending Trex by heating
My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it?
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On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:50:26 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? Try contacting Trex support. If it can be done, I'd guess you have to get it to the 180F - 200F range to soften the plastic. You may also significantly waken it mechanical strength too as it is a blend of materials with plastic. |
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On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 05:55:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:50:26 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? Try contacting Trex support. If it can be done, I'd guess you have to get it to the 180F - 200F range to soften the plastic. You may also significantly waken it mechanical strength too as it is a blend of materials with plastic. It bends well at 350F.-just like a cooked noodle. It can be bent at lower temps too. Not sure I'd try it on the "coated" type, but you wouldn't slice that into smaller planks either. I'd try heat lamps or infrared heaters. |
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replying to , Brittany M wrote:
hrhofmann wrote: My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? Hello, I am a representative of Trex. Trex now offers Trex CustomCurve Heating & Bending Solution. Trex CustomCurve is an innovative, easy-to-use heating unit that lets you curve decking, railing, and trim on or off site. Visit http://curveitnow.com/products.htm for more information. -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ng-765612-.htm using HomeOwnersHub's Web, RSS and Social Media Interface to home and garden related groups |
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On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:44:02 +0000, Brittany M
wrote: Hello, I am a representative of Trex. Trex now offers Trex CustomCurve Heating & Bending Solution. Trex CustomCurve is an innovative, easy-to-use heating unit that lets you curve decking, railing, and trim on or off site. Visit http://curveitnow.com/products.htm for more information. "...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? |
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On 10/8/2013 12:04 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:44:02 +0000, Brittany M wrote: Hello, I am a representative of Trex. Trex now offers Trex CustomCurve Heating & Bending Solution. Trex CustomCurve is an innovative, easy-to-use heating unit that lets you curve decking, railing, and trim on or off site. Visit http://curveitnow.com/products.htm for more information. "...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? Come on now! "You'll be able to build decks that literally wrap around the most perfect afternoons..." Please don't make the readers here look cheap! : ) |
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On 10/8/2013 12:04 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:44:02 +0000, Brittany M wrote: Hello, I am a representative of Trex. Trex now offers Trex CustomCurve Heating & Bending Solution. Trex CustomCurve is an innovative, easy-to-use heating unit that lets you curve decking, railing, and trim on or off site. Visit http://curveitnow.com/products.htm for more information. "...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? Why not charge? If we ship tooling on a pallet or customer picks it up, we don't charge anything, but if the customer wants it crated, a well made re-usable crate can run over $200 in material and a few hours labor. Comes under the "no free lunch" program. |
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On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? Why not charge? If we ship tooling on a pallet or customer picks it up, we don't charge anything, but if the customer wants it crated, a well made re-usable crate can run over $200 in material and a few hours labor. Comes under the "no free lunch" program. Does your _Invoice_ reflect a separate itemized charge for the crate or is it included in shipping and handling? |
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On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:44:02 +0000, Brittany M
wrote: Hello, I am a representative of Trex. Trex rep on Moaners Shrub? Wow, that's awful. .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 10/8/2013 1:51 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:26:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: "...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? Why not charge? If we ship tooling on a pallet or customer picks it up, we don't charge anything, but if the customer wants it crated, a well made re-usable crate can run over $200 in material and a few hours labor. Comes under the "no free lunch" program. Does your _Invoice_ reflect a separate itemized charge for the crate or is it included in shipping and handling? Invoiced as a separate line item. It is only crated at the request of the customer. All other product includes shipping container, usually cartons, bags, or wrap and is specified on the quote and included in the price. Most of our products is light and floor loaded. If the customer wants pallets, they are charged extra and as a line item on the invoice. They also pay considerably more for freight as they pay by weight and pallets can easily be 50 pounds. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/8/2013 12:04 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:44:02 +0000, Brittany M wrote: Hello, I am a representative of Trex. Trex now offers Trex CustomCurve Heating & Bending Solution. Trex CustomCurve is an innovative, easy-to-use heating unit that lets you curve decking, railing, and trim on or off site. Visit http://curveitnow.com/products.htm for more information. "...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? Why not charge? If we ship tooling on a pallet or customer picks it up, we don't charge anything, but if the customer wants it crated, a well made re-usable crate can run over $200 in material and a few hours labor. Comes under the "no free lunch" program. My son used to work in a warehouse. One day he sends me a picture of a couple of shipping crates from some kind precision optical device. The crates were probably 3' x 4' x 2'. The box and dividers were made from birch veneered plywood. Some of the smaller dividers and braces were made of hardwood, not plywood. The dividers were glued and screwed into dadoes. Some of the dividers had threaded inserts into which T-shaped hold downs were inserted. Precision cut foam, glued in place, provided cushioning for the equipment. Based on the quality of these crates and the workmanship that went into them, I have to assume that either the cost of the crate was included in the cost of the device/printing or the device manufacturer wanted the crates back, perhaps with a deposit paid prior to shipping. My son was cleaning out a section of the warehouse and they told him to throw the crates out. They let him take them home instead. He took out the dividers and used one as bookcase in his apartment, SWMBO took one to the adult day-hab she works at for some type of project. These were some fine looking shipping crates. |
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On Monday, October 7, 2013 10:50:26 PM UTC-5, wrote:
My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? $7995 to bend two simple armrests is about $7992 more than I am willing to pay. I have an electric stove with thermostat oven control to the nearest 5 degrees. I'll cut the 2 armrests and start at 350 degrees and see what happens. I have enough material that I can ruin 2 or 3 armrests while learning and have enough material left for the final two armrests. I'll call Trex tomorrow and see if they are wiling to give me a recommended temperature(that their $7995 unit generates). |
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On Monday, October 7, 2013 10:50:26 PM UTC-5, wrote: My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? $7995 to bend two simple armrests is about $7992 more than I am willing to pay. I have an electric stove with thermostat oven control to the nearest 5 degrees. I'll cut the 2 armrests and start at 350 degrees and see what happens. I have enough material that I can ruin 2 or 3 armrests while learning and have enough material left for the final two armrests. I'll call Trex tomorrow and see if they are wiling to give me a recommended temperature(that their $7995 unit generates). That 8K unit bends boards along their width. Quite a feat. I think you're looking for a bend along the depth. You should make that clear. A little heat should do the job. -- Dan Espen |
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On Monday, October 7, 2013 10:50:26 PM UTC-5, wrote:
My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? The Trex chat phone line recommended that I call their technical support so I will find out tomorrow what they recommend. I have trimmed the Trex down to 1/2 inch thick, 1.5" wide, and about 12" long. The shape is a sideways "s" and not a real lot of bending needed. So, we'll see that the Trex technical folks recommend, and I'll post that here. |
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Just got off the phone with Trex, after being transferred 4 times, I got a rep who said Trex recommends 185 - 200 F for bending their products.
Hope to try it within the next day or so and will report here. |
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Oren posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:44:02 +0000, Brittany M wrote: Hello, I am a representative of Trex. Trex now offers Trex CustomCurve Heating & Bending Solution. Trex CustomCurve is an innovative, easy-to-use heating unit that lets you curve decking, railing, and trim on or off site. Visit http://curveitnow.com/products.htm for more information. "...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? Oren, remember the customer pays for EVERYTHING. Otherwise business goes under. Usually see a shipping/handling line item unless a special deal. TV gizmo get you with "buy the first super duper for $19.99 and for limited time get a second free - *only pay for separate shipping/handling* -- Tekkie |
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On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 19:58:47 -0400, Tekkie® wrote:
"...$7,995 - Includes one unit, one forming table, 18 clamps and shipping crate. Freight will be an additional charge." Why charge for the shipping crate? Oren, remember the customer pays for EVERYTHING. Otherwise business goes under. Usually see a shipping/handling line item unless a special deal. TV gizmo get you with "buy the first super duper for $19.99 and for limited time get a second free - *only pay for separate shipping/handling* My sarcasm was a failure |
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On 10/9/13 6:58 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Oren, remember the customer pays for EVERYTHING. Otherwise business goes under. Usually see a shipping/handling line item unless a special deal. TV gizmo get you with "buy the first super duper for $19.99 and for limited time get a second free - *only pay for separate shipping/handling* There is actually a website dedicated to such things: http://www.asseenontv.com Where else can you buy Bert the Farting Hippo? |
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On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 5:37:47 PM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 10/7/13 10:50 PM, wrote: My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? I wonder if an electrician's pvc conduit heater/bender would do the trick. You mean the gas stove that I used when I had to bend PVC? |
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On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 10:05:30 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: Just got off the phone with Trex, after being transferred 4 times, I got a rep who said Trex recommends 185 - 200 F for bending their products. Hope to try it within the next day or so and will report here. A pot of boiling water should do the job for the arm-rests. |
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In centigrade please
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On 9/19/2015 10:00 PM, wrote:
In centigrade please Sme quoted text, please. - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 9/19/2015 11:01 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 9/19/2015 10:00 PM, wrote: In centigrade please Some quoted text, please. - . Christopher Chris, why are you posting in English when he wants you to speak to him in Centigrade? |
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On 9/19/2015 11:56 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/19/2015 11:01 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 9/19/2015 10:00 PM, wrote: In centigrade please Some quoted text, please. - . Christopher Chris, why are you posting in English when he wants you to speak to him in Centigrade? slaps forehead you are so right, Ed. Yo! Mofo! Doan be trimmin dat **** off so tight, slick. Yo all be leabbin sum ol scrip on de post so's we can figger ow what choo been sayin, home. No wat I meen? - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 09/19/2015 10:00 PM, wrote:
In centigrade please Did you flunk 3rd grade? |
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Back in 2013, I posted that Trex suggested 180 - 200F for bending their product. It worked out fine and we enjoy the bench with its armrests almost every day.
Conversion formula is: degrees F = degrees C x 9/5 + 32, according to what I learned in jr high school 65 years ago. |
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 22:42:24 -0400, Dan Espen
wrote: writes: Back in 2013, I posted that Trex suggested 180 - 200F for bending their product. It worked out fine and we enjoy the bench with its armrests almost every day. Conversion formula is: degrees F = degrees C x 9/5 + 32, according to what I learned in jr high school 65 years ago. That was 65 years ago. Now we all know to type into the Google search bar: "180f in c". And sadly that's all some of us know. Even if you don't know the formula, you need to know there are (212-32)=180 F degrees between freezing and boiling, while there are only 100 C degrees between freezing and boiling, and the offset at freezing is 32. Makes it easy to "rough guess" the temperature conversion. Double the C temperature, subtract 1 for every 10, and subtract 32 and you are pretty close in F. |
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On 09/20/2015 10:14 AM, Rocky wrote:
On 09/19/2015 10:00 PM, wrote: In centigrade please Did you flunk 3rd grade? Kids are no longer flunked. Each child is given an award for breathing successfully for 365 days and then promoted to the next grade. |
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That's if you integrate from the freezing point of water...which is what has typically been caught, buy which also makes the equations asymmetric.
The two lines cross at -40 deg (-40 F = -40 C)...so you can integrate dC/dF = 5/9 from that point and get symmetric equations: C = 5/9 (F + 40) - 40 F = 9/5 (C + 40) - 40 One only has to remember that 5 Celsius degrees span the same temperature difference as 9 Fahrenheit degrees...which follows from 180 Fahrenheit degrees (between water freezing at 32 F and boiling at 212 F) being equivalent to the 100 Celsius degrees between the same two markers). Steve |
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On Monday, October 7, 2013 at 11:50:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
My previous post on dividing Trex boards into smaller boards has about run its course. Now, I want to know if anyone has ever tried heating Trex (or equivalent) to bend it? Trex is heated to 212 deg the temperature of boiled water. not 350. in fact some of the 1st benders were a stove and heating duct filled with water and boiled with a gas stove like making spaghetti which the trex decking acts like when removed after reaching temperature. as far as railing was shown the blanket was used for that. |
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