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leza wang July 20th 13 03:34 AM

drill or screw driver
 
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA

Paul Drahn July 20th 13 04:07 AM

drill or screw driver
 
On 7/19/2013 7:34 PM, leza wang wrote:
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA

Looks like a regular, everyday, battery powered drill motor with a
screwdriver bit. The clutch on the drill is set loose so the screw will
not be over tightened.

I wonder about the rolled up screen he put in the top of the downspout
to stop debris going down the downspout. My experience is it's better
for the debris to go down the down spout than the clog up the gutters.
At least the debris is all in one spot!

Paul

Ralph Mowery July 20th 13 04:17 AM

drill or screw driver
 

"leza wang" wrote in message
...
Hi all

In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this
machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not
cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board
for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


It appears to be a DeWalt battery drill. They usually have a dual speed
gear built in. Also they are varitable speed depending on how far the
trigger is pulled.

The trick for using a drill as a power screwdriver is the speed. You do not
want it to turn too fast. Also it may not have enough power to turn a screw
at slow speed.



TomR[_5_] July 20th 13 04:24 AM

drill or screw driver
 
"leza wang" wrote in message
...
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this
machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not
cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board
for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


A portable battery-powered screw gun like the one in the video is probably
the best option. But, if the regular plug-in type (not battery-powered)
drill that you have is variable speed and reversible, then you could
probably just use that for now. You would just need to by a
screwdriver-type bit to put in in -- either a Philips head type like this
one
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/2036889...&R=20368893 9 ,
or a flat head type for flat head screws.


gregz July 20th 13 04:39 AM

drill or screw driver
 
leza wang wrote:
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What
this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but
not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big
board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


You can buy screwdriver bits. These battery types have two speed for either
drilling or screwing. It's more difficult to get the right speed and torque
with a standard drill.
You can try it, as long as it's a variable speed drill.

Greg

Robert Green July 20th 13 04:57 AM

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"Paul Drahn" wrote in message
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stuff snipped

I wonder about the rolled up screen he put in the top of the downspout
to stop debris going down the downspout. My experience is it's better
for the debris to go down the down spout than the clog up the gutters.
At least the debris is all in one spot!


I think a lot depends on the kind of debris that collects in the gutters.
When it goes into the downspout it's often possible to flush it out without
having to climb a ladder. I've done it both ways in different houses with
different trees near each one and I can make a strong case both for and
against gutter guards and screens. (-: Pine needles sort of lie there and
knit together so I wouldn't use a downspout screen if I had those sorts of
trees nearby.

I went looking for the iRobot company's gutter-cleaning robot the other day
and they seem to have stopped making or even talking about it. I guess too
many of them did a Brody off the roof. Gutters should all be equipped with
motorized augers that chew up the leaves and dead birds and squirrels into a
fine mulch.

--
Bobby G.



Tony Hwang July 20th 13 05:16 AM

drill or screw driver
 
leza wang wrote:
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA

Hi,
Whether electric or battery driven, it better be variable speed with
reversible rotation. I have both kinds Bosch electric drill and DeWalt
battery driven.

Tony Hwang July 20th 13 05:21 AM

drill or screw driver
 
gregz wrote:
leza wang wrote:
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What
this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but
not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big
board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


You can buy screwdriver bits. These battery types have two speed for either
drilling or screwing. It's more difficult to get the right speed and torque
with a standard drill.
You can try it, as long as it's a variable speed drill.

Greg

Hi,
I like magnetic bits. Not easy to drop to lose it. What is front house?
I am just curious.

Robert Green July 20th 13 05:51 AM

drill or screw driver
 
"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message

stuff snipped

The trick for using a drill as a power screwdriver is the speed. You do

not
want it to turn too fast. Also it may not have enough power to turn a

screw
at slow speed.


Good point. For someone starting out, as Leza seems to be, I wonder if a
drill is the right tool. It takes a pretty sensitive touch on the trigger
along with a drill that has an adjustable clutch to keep from ripping up the
screwheads.

Instead I'd recommend a dedicated power screwdriver for driving screws. A
good one can be had for less than $20. I use them in conjunction with
drills when I am using wood screws so I can drill the pilot hole with the
drill and then use the power screwdriver without having to keep changing
bits.

--
Bobby G.




Bob F July 20th 13 06:08 AM

drill or screw driver
 
Paul Drahn wrote:
On 7/19/2013 7:34 PM, leza wang wrote:
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw.
What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a
drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver
to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special
device? Thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA

Looks like a regular, everyday, battery powered drill motor with a
screwdriver bit. The clutch on the drill is set loose so the screw
will not be over tightened.

I wonder about the rolled up screen he put in the top of the downspout
to stop debris going down the downspout. My experience is it's better
for the debris to go down the down spout than the clog up the gutters.
At least the debris is all in one spot!


Yes, it's all in one place. Plugging up your drain field and pipes.



Bob F July 20th 13 06:09 AM

drill or screw driver
 
Ralph Mowery wrote:
"leza wang" wrote in message
...
Hi all

In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw.
What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a
drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver
to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device?
Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


It appears to be a DeWalt battery drill. They usually have a dual
speed gear built in. Also they are varitable speed depending on how
far the trigger is pulled.

The trick for using a drill as a power screwdriver is the speed. You
do not want it to turn too fast. Also it may not have enough power
to turn a screw at slow speed.


It has more power at the low speed than the high speed.



Stormin Mormon[_9_] July 20th 13 01:10 PM

drill or screw driver
 
My Makita has a speed switch on top. Low speed has higher torque. Sometimes high speed is needed, to get the screw to start.
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"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message m...

It appears to be a DeWalt battery drill. They usually have a dual speed
gear built in. Also they are varitable speed depending on how far the
trigger is pulled.

The trick for using a drill as a power screwdriver is the speed. You do not
want it to turn too fast. Also it may not have enough power to turn a screw
at slow speed.




DerbyDad03 July 20th 13 01:50 PM

drill or screw driver
 
"TomR" wrote:
"leza wang" wrote in message
...
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What
this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but
not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big
board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


A portable battery-powered screw gun like the one in the video is
probably the best option. But, if the regular plug-in type (not
battery-powered) drill that you have is variable speed and reversible,
then you could probably just use that for now. You would just need to by a
screwdriver-type bit to put in in -- either a Philips head type like this
one http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/2036889...&R=20368893 9
, or a flat head type for flat head screws.


I suggest the purchase of one these and a box of short #2 Phillips head
bits. That's the most common bit for a screw gun, although the real
solution is to obviously match your bits to the type of fastener you are
going to use.

http://www.tools-plus.com/dewalt-dw2055.html

Extending the bit out from the chuck makes it much easier to use. You can
get fixed sleeve holders or holders where the sleeve slides forward to
cover the screw. It's self-centering for one hand operation.

I laugh when I see people using the short bits right in the chuck and then
wonder why they keep stripping the screws.

I also keep a 6 #2 bit in my drill case for times when I need a little
more reach.

http://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.c...iver-power-bit

All items are available wherever you buy your drill from.

micky July 20th 13 02:09 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


A drill that runs on house current is a lot less trouble than a
cordless drill, where one has to recharge the batteries frequently,
replace them every so often (2 years?) and which in many cases don't
have near the power of a drill that runs on house current. I've had
no trouble reaching any part of my house or yard with a long enough
extension cord. Even going up a ladder, though one should be
careful he doesn't trip over the cord, and one should use both hands
going up and down the ladder (shouldn't be holding things with one's
hands) , maybe pulling the drill up after one is up, and lowering it
before going down. A cordless drill presents some of the same
problems. I guess there are holsters, so you can put it on your hip.

As to whether you also need an electric screwdriver, it depends.

First, I'm curious. Did you know that you're supposed to drill a hole
before you try to screw in a screw? When I grew up I didnt' know
that. We had no drill of any sort. We did have a gimlet, and I would
use a gimlet to make a hole 1/4' deep, enough to hold the screw, and
then I would turn the screw until it went all the way into the wood,
usually splitting the wood. I was 8 years old and soft of thought it
shouldn't work like that, but had no idea what was wrong.

Anyhow, you should drill a hole with a drill bit about as thick as the
shank of the screw, minus the threads. Note that the end of the
screw is probably smaller than the part near the head, so the hole in
the second piece of wood should maybe be smaller in diameter.
Especially since it's that second piece of wood that the screw has to
hold to. The head of the screw is enough to hold it to the first.,
the top piece of wood, but the threads have to be in fairly tight in
the bottom piece of wood.

With soft wood you can make the holes a ittle bit smaller, In fact
you should start smaller because you can always make the hole bigger
but you can't make it smaller.

And before you put the screw in the hole, you should pull its threads
once across a bar of soap (not Lava soap. Ivory or something like
that.) to get some on each thread (yes I know t here's really only
one thread) . The soap makes an enormous difference when trying to
screw in the screw, and if you'v e done everything right, it's easy to
make the screw go in and it will still fit tightly.

You might also look for a ratchet screw driver, so you don't have to
take the tip out of the screw head slot, just turn your hand back and
forth.

Do all this one nail or screw at a time and you won't have to take
down the gutter. and you can probably do it yourself.

Do you need an electric screw driver or a drill with screwdriver
speed? Maybe it would speed things up and keep you from getting tired
if you're built like a girl and/or have never done much work with your
hands, that's even more likely.

They also make screw tips that will fit on a socket wrench ratchet,
when using the right socket, I guess. (not metric, I think). I have
socket wrenches to work on the car, and a ratchet with its leverage
and ratcheting is just about as good as electric, afaic. But if you
wouldn't buy socket wrenches otherwise, maybe it's not worth buying
now.


Are your gutters falling off? They are probably nailed on with
"gutter nails" or "gutter spikes". The easiest thing to do if the
nails are loose is to switch to gutter screws, which are designed to
fit in the same holes that the nails did, but be bigger. (but thin
enough that they will still go through the tubes thake keep either the
nails or the screws from crushing the gutter.) They will probably
screw in pretty easily, and will hold your gutters for another 10
years or more. unless the wood is really bad.

(Even then, when the wood is so bad the screws are falling out, you
can probably aim the screws a half inch to the side and find decent
wood. It won't look perfect but who looks up at the screw heads
anyhow. I guess if you're starting a new hole when the wood is old
and part of it is rotting, your starter hole should be even smaller,
or maybe you don't need one??? I'm not up to that point yet and I
don't know. what the wood 1/2 inch from a crumbling, almost rotting
hole is like. It might be almost as good as new. Maybe you can
even switch back to gutter nails. This paragraph needs more work.

And you should probably get in the habit of wearing gloves. People
are twice as strong when they're wearing gloves, and they don't get
calluses either. Cloth garden gloves might be okay. For really hard
work, leather work gloves are better.

But your hands may well get dirty. If there is grease in yoour
finger prints, I recommend waterless hand cleaner that works very well
on grease. But somehow I never use that and I rely on Boraxo powdered
hand soap. It gets all the dirt off, even the dirt in your
fingerprints, without making your hands feel like they are being
attacked. More like massaged.

My mother used Lava soap when her hands were dirty. I don't know how
she could stand it. I hate the stuff. And she must have known about
Boraxo, because my father had died and she was the one who bought it.

micky July 20th 13 02:12 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


BTW, I bought at a yard sale a battery operated drill and small saw.
I didn't pay much but it still wasn't worth it because everyone has
switched to a higher voltage with more power, even for home-use
quality tools. Including, I'm sure, the guy I bought these tools
from. I can't remember what I have or what the new voltage is.

micky July 20th 13 02:17 PM

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On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:50:58 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

"TomR" wrote:
"leza wang" wrote in message
...
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What
this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but
not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big
board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


A portable battery-powered screw gun like the one in the video is
probably the best option. But, if the regular plug-in type (not
battery-powered) drill that you have is variable speed and reversible,
then you could probably just use that for now. You would just need to by a
screwdriver-type bit to put in in -- either a Philips head type like this
one http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/2036889...&R=20368893 9
, or a flat head type for flat head screws.


I suggest the purchase of one these and a box of short #2 Phillips head


Very good post but why does she need a whole box of bits? Do they
wear out?

bits. That's the most common bit for a screw gun, although the real
solution is to obviously match your bits to the type of fastener you are
going to use.

http://www.tools-plus.com/dewalt-dw2055.html

Extending the bit out from the chuck makes it much easier to use. You can
get fixed sleeve holders or holders where the sleeve slides forward to
cover the screw. It's self-centering for one hand operation.

I laugh when I see people using the short bits right in the chuck and then
wonder why they keep stripping the screws.

I also keep a 6 #2 bit in my drill case for times when I need a little
more reach.

http://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.c...iver-power-bit

All items are available wherever you buy your drill from.



Ralph Mowery July 20th 13 02:55 PM

drill or screw driver
 

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
It appears to be a DeWalt battery drill. They usually have a dual
speed gear built in. Also they are varitable speed depending on how
far the trigger is pulled.

The trick for using a drill as a power screwdriver is the speed. You
do not want it to turn too fast. Also it may not have enough power
to turn a screw at slow speed.


It has more power at the low speed than the high speed.



The drill I was thinking of was the corded drill that she may already have.
They do not develop much power when the speed is very low by not pulling the
trigger very much.

The ones with a dual speed gear will develop more power to turn the screws
when set to the lower speed. This is usually the battery powered ones.

There are also some tools that look like drills that are especially made to
run slow for driving screws.



[email protected] July 20th 13 04:49 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34:13 PM UTC-5, leza wang wrote:
Hi all In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


Leza,

We need to know if your drill has one speed, two speeds, or is a variable speed control type of drill.

Tony Hwang July 20th 13 04:58 PM

drill or screw driver
 
micky wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:50:58 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

"TomR" wrote:
"leza wang" wrote in message
...
Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What
this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but
not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big
board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


A portable battery-powered screw gun like the one in the video is
probably the best option. But, if the regular plug-in type (not
battery-powered) drill that you have is variable speed and reversible,
then you could probably just use that for now. You would just need to by a
screwdriver-type bit to put in in -- either a Philips head type like this
one http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/2036889...&R=20368893 9
, or a flat head type for flat head screws.


I suggest the purchase of one these and a box of short #2 Phillips head


Very good post but why does she need a whole box of bits? Do they
wear out?

bits. That's the most common bit for a screw gun, although the real
solution is to obviously match your bits to the type of fastener you are
going to use.

http://www.tools-plus.com/dewalt-dw2055.html

Extending the bit out from the chuck makes it much easier to use. You can
get fixed sleeve holders or holders where the sleeve slides forward to
cover the screw. It's self-centering for one hand operation.

I laugh when I see people using the short bits right in the chuck and then
wonder why they keep stripping the screws.

I also keep a 6 #2 bit in my drill case for times when I need a little
more reach.

http://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.c...iver-power-bit

All items are available wherever you buy your drill from.


Hi,
I think by now OP has whole buch more questions, LOL.
Philips, Robertson, chuck, sleeve..... OP's mind is boggling now.

Tony Hwang July 20th 13 05:06 PM

drill or screw driver
 
micky wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


A drill that runs on house current is a lot less trouble than a
cordless drill, where one has to recharge the batteries frequently,
replace them every so often (2 years?) and which in many cases don't
have near the power of a drill that runs on house current. I've had
no trouble reaching any part of my house or yard with a long enough
extension cord. Even going up a ladder, though one should be
careful he doesn't trip over the cord, and one should use both hands
going up and down the ladder (shouldn't be holding things with one's
hands) , maybe pulling the drill up after one is up, and lowering it
before going down. A cordless drill presents some of the same
problems. I guess there are holsters, so you can put it on your hip.

As to whether you also need an electric screwdriver, it depends.

First, I'm curious. Did you know that you're supposed to drill a hole
before you try to screw in a screw? When I grew up I didnt' know
that. We had no drill of any sort. We did have a gimlet, and I would
use a gimlet to make a hole 1/4' deep, enough to hold the screw, and
then I would turn the screw until it went all the way into the wood,
usually splitting the wood. I was 8 years old and soft of thought it
shouldn't work like that, but had no idea what was wrong.

Anyhow, you should drill a hole with a drill bit about as thick as the
shank of the screw, minus the threads. Note that the end of the
screw is probably smaller than the part near the head, so the hole in
the second piece of wood should maybe be smaller in diameter.
Especially since it's that second piece of wood that the screw has to
hold to. The head of the screw is enough to hold it to the first.,
the top piece of wood, but the threads have to be in fairly tight in
the bottom piece of wood.

With soft wood you can make the holes a ittle bit smaller, In fact
you should start smaller because you can always make the hole bigger
but you can't make it smaller.

And before you put the screw in the hole, you should pull its threads
once across a bar of soap (not Lava soap. Ivory or something like
that.) to get some on each thread (yes I know t here's really only
one thread) . The soap makes an enormous difference when trying to
screw in the screw, and if you'v e done everything right, it's easy to
make the screw go in and it will still fit tightly.

You might also look for a ratchet screw driver, so you don't have to
take the tip out of the screw head slot, just turn your hand back and
forth.

Do all this one nail or screw at a time and you won't have to take
down the gutter. and you can probably do it yourself.

Do you need an electric screw driver or a drill with screwdriver
speed? Maybe it would speed things up and keep you from getting tired
if you're built like a girl and/or have never done much work with your
hands, that's even more likely.

They also make screw tips that will fit on a socket wrench ratchet,
when using the right socket, I guess. (not metric, I think). I have
socket wrenches to work on the car, and a ratchet with its leverage
and ratcheting is just about as good as electric, afaic. But if you
wouldn't buy socket wrenches otherwise, maybe it's not worth buying
now.


Are your gutters falling off? They are probably nailed on with
"gutter nails" or "gutter spikes". The easiest thing to do if the
nails are loose is to switch to gutter screws, which are designed to
fit in the same holes that the nails did, but be bigger. (but thin
enough that they will still go through the tubes thake keep either the
nails or the screws from crushing the gutter.) They will probably
screw in pretty easily, and will hold your gutters for another 10
years or more. unless the wood is really bad.

(Even then, when the wood is so bad the screws are falling out, you
can probably aim the screws a half inch to the side and find decent
wood. It won't look perfect but who looks up at the screw heads
anyhow. I guess if you're starting a new hole when the wood is old
and part of it is rotting, your starter hole should be even smaller,
or maybe you don't need one??? I'm not up to that point yet and I
don't know. what the wood 1/2 inch from a crumbling, almost rotting
hole is like. It might be almost as good as new. Maybe you can
even switch back to gutter nails. This paragraph needs more work.

And you should probably get in the habit of wearing gloves. People
are twice as strong when they're wearing gloves, and they don't get
calluses either. Cloth garden gloves might be okay. For really hard
work, leather work gloves are better.

But your hands may well get dirty. If there is grease in yoour
finger prints, I recommend waterless hand cleaner that works very well
on grease. But somehow I never use that and I rely on Boraxo powdered
hand soap. It gets all the dirt off, even the dirt in your
fingerprints, without making your hands feel like they are being
attacked. More like massaged.

My mother used Lava soap when her hands were dirty. I don't know how
she could stand it. I hate the stuff. And she must have known about
Boraxo, because my father had died and she was the one who bought it.

Hey,
B4 anything else OP better keep in mind safety practices. What looks
easy on expert's hand can be accident in waiting for amateur or novice.
In my working days if safety engineer catch us breaking safety rules, it
could be cause for losing the job. Could be fired on the spot, very
strict. If not using anti static mat &/or glove handling a circuit
board, static could zap a multi grand CML high current logic board in a
blink.

Oren[_2_] July 20th 13 05:37 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:17:36 -0400, micky
wrote:


Very good post but why does she need a whole box of bits? Do they
wear out?


They wear out and they also break. I've had one of the four sides of a
Phillips screw bit break right off.

Leza may not need a box of bits for a small project, one or two maybe.

Ed Pawlowski July 20th 13 06:14 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:12:51 -0400, micky
wrote:



BTW, I bought at a yard sale a battery operated drill and small saw.
I didn't pay much but it still wasn't worth it because everyone has
switched to a higher voltage with more power, even for home-use
quality tools. Including, I'm sure, the guy I bought these tools
from. I can't remember what I have or what the new voltage is.


For driving screws, a 9.6 or 12 volt is really all you need most of
the time. But men being men, we often go to the higher voltages
because we can. I prefer something lighter that gets the job done.

That said, my car has a turbocharger and a top speed I'll probably
never see even though I've already hit 123 mph.

Ed Pawlowski July 20th 13 06:41 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:17:36 -0400, micky
wrote:




I suggest the purchase of one these and a box of short #2 Phillips head


Very good post but why does she need a whole box of bits? Do they
wear out?


Yes, some of the cheap ones wear out quickly too. I keep a few around
all the time, mostly #2 Phillips and #2 Robertson square drive.

My preference is to get a quick change bit holder like this one from
Bosch CC2100
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-CC2100-C...nge+bit+holder

http://www.acetoolonline.com/Bosch-C...bos-cc2100.htm

I don't know about other brands, they may be OK too but I never tried
them.

Robert Green July 20th 13 09:03 PM

drill or screw driver
 
"Oren" wrote in message

stuff snipped

I've had one of the four sides of a Phillips screw bit break right off.


What on earth are your screwing?

(-:

--
Bobby G.



Oren[_2_] July 20th 13 09:18 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:14:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

For driving screws, a 9.6 or 12 volt is really all you need most of
the time. But men being men, we often go to the higher voltages


I select on the torque of the tool, not the voltage. Let the tool fit
the needs.

Oren[_2_] July 20th 13 09:36 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:03:45 -0400, "Robert Green"
wrote:

"Oren" wrote in message

stuff snipped

I've had one of the four sides of a Phillips screw bit break right off.


What on earth are your screwing?

(-:


Anything that needed screwing on the day the bit tooth broke.

Never under estimate the power of a hammer drill.

Gordon Shumway July 20th 13 10:01 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


The tool you are referring to is a battery powered drill/driver. It
can be used to drill holes or drive screws when the proper bit is
inserted in the chuck. The tool being used in the video is a Dewalt
drill/driver similar to this one:

http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless...s-dc759ka.aspx

DO NOT use a corded drill to try to drive screws! If you are not
familiar with this operation you can easily hurt yourself.

Corded drills don't have clutches to adjust the torque for that
application. Even if it is variable speed drill it is very difficult
to control the speed for driving screws. They are not intended for
that job.

Tony Hwang July 20th 13 10:14 PM

drill or screw driver
 
Robert Green wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message

stuff snipped

I've had one of the four sides of a Phillips screw bit break right off.


What on earth are your screwing?

(-:

--
Bobby G.


Hi,
El cheapo Chinese bit won't last for sure.

Tony Hwang July 20th 13 10:18 PM

drill or screw driver
 
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:12:51 -0400, micky
wrote:



BTW, I bought at a yard sale a battery operated drill and small saw.
I didn't pay much but it still wasn't worth it because everyone has
switched to a higher voltage with more power, even for home-use
quality tools. Including, I'm sure, the guy I bought these tools
from. I can't remember what I have or what the new voltage is.


For driving screws, a 9.6 or 12 volt is really all you need most of
the time. But men being men, we often go to the higher voltages
because we can. I prefer something lighter that gets the job done.

That said, my car has a turbocharger and a top speed I'll probably
never see even though I've already hit 123 mph.

Hi,
Isn't there a saying, "The guy who has most toys wins at the end"

micky July 20th 13 10:25 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:14:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:12:51 -0400, micky
wrote:



BTW, I bought at a yard sale a battery operated drill and small saw.
I didn't pay much but it still wasn't worth it because everyone has
switched to a higher voltage with more power, even for home-use
quality tools. Including, I'm sure, the guy I bought these tools
from. I can't remember what I have or what the new voltage is.


For driving screws, a 9.6 or 12 volt is really all you need most of
the time. But men being men, we often go to the higher voltages
because we can. I prefer something lighter that gets the job done.


Another problem is that the batteries that came with my tools were
almost dead. Of course, that is when people sell things that use
batteries. They would work for 5 minutes. But I didn't want to
spend money for new ones.

That said, my car has a turbocharger and a top speed I'll probably
never see even though I've already hit 123 mph.




TomR[_3_] July 20th 13 10:33 PM

drill or screw driver
 
Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw.
What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a
drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver
to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special
device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


The tool you are referring to is a battery powered drill/driver. It
can be used to drill holes or drive screws when the proper bit is
inserted in the chuck. The tool being used in the video is a Dewalt
drill/driver similar to this one:

http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless...s-dc759ka.aspx

DO NOT use a corded drill to try to drive screws! If you are not
familiar with this operation you can easily hurt yourself.

Corded drills don't have clutches to adjust the torque for that
application. Even if it is variable speed drill it is very difficult
to control the speed for driving screws. They are not intended for
that job.


That seems to be overly dramatic to me. If the OP has a variable speed
corded drill, and mostly just wants to use it for this one job, I don't
think it would be any big deal to do so.

I have used a variable speed corded drill to drive screws when I happen to
not have my battery powered drill/driver with me. Yes, one needs to be
careful and try to keep the drill speed low, but it's no big deal.

And, I don't see where the "danger" part would come in. It's not a power
saw or angle grinder where one could lose fingers etc; it's a drill.



micky July 20th 13 10:38 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:36:39 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:03:45 -0400, "Robert Green"
wrote:

"Oren" wrote in message

stuff snipped

I've had one of the four sides of a Phillips screw bit break right off.


What on earth are your screwing?

(-:


Anything that needed screwing on the day the bit tooth broke.

Never under estimate the power of a hammer drill.


Oh, it was a hammer drill. I have one - couldn't resist the HF
price, but have not yet used it.

I have used a couple manual hammer drivers that turn a hammer blow
into torque, and they sell tips for that made out of special steel so
they won't break.

Oren[_2_] July 20th 13 10:54 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:38:12 -0400, micky
wrote:

I have used a couple manual hammer drivers that turn a hammer blow
into torque, and they sell tips for that made out of special steel so
they won't break.


A manual impact driver. I have beat them to death and not once did the
bit break.

They are required to break a fastener loose,, Imo. When stuff gets
tuff.

Gordon Shumway July 20th 13 10:57 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:33:07 -0400, "TomR" wrote:

Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to screw.
What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I have a
drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw driver
to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special
device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


The tool you are referring to is a battery powered drill/driver. It
can be used to drill holes or drive screws when the proper bit is
inserted in the chuck. The tool being used in the video is a Dewalt
drill/driver similar to this one:

http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless...s-dc759ka.aspx

DO NOT use a corded drill to try to drive screws! If you are not
familiar with this operation you can easily hurt yourself.

Corded drills don't have clutches to adjust the torque for that
application. Even if it is variable speed drill it is very difficult
to control the speed for driving screws. They are not intended for
that job.


That seems to be overly dramatic to me. If the OP has a variable speed
corded drill, and mostly just wants to use it for this one job, I don't
think it would be any big deal to do so.

I have used a variable speed corded drill to drive screws when I happen to
not have my battery powered drill/driver with me. Yes, one needs to be
careful and try to keep the drill speed low, but it's no big deal.

And, I don't see where the "danger" part would come in. It's not a power
saw or angle grinder where one could lose fingers etc; it's a drill.


Considering some of her earlier posts, I believe she is a novice in
this area. I'll agree, I have used a corded 90 deg drill for a few
hard to get at screws and you have to be real careful.

However, one with little or no experience can easily sprain or break
their wrist. Or worse.

Ed Pawlowski July 20th 13 11:15 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:18:14 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:12:51 -0400, micky
wrote:



BTW, I bought at a yard sale a battery operated drill and small saw.
I didn't pay much but it still wasn't worth it because everyone has
switched to a higher voltage with more power, even for home-use
quality tools. Including, I'm sure, the guy I bought these tools
from. I can't remember what I have or what the new voltage is.


For driving screws, a 9.6 or 12 volt is really all you need most of
the time. But men being men, we often go to the higher voltages
because we can. I prefer something lighter that gets the job done.

That said, my car has a turbocharger and a top speed I'll probably
never see even though I've already hit 123 mph.

Hi,
Isn't there a saying, "The guy who has most toys wins at the end"



I don't expect to win, but I'm in the top half for sure.

micky July 20th 13 11:23 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:15:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:18:14 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:12:51 -0400, micky
wrote:



BTW, I bought at a yard sale a battery operated drill and small saw.
I didn't pay much but it still wasn't worth it because everyone has
switched to a higher voltage with more power, even for home-use
quality tools. Including, I'm sure, the guy I bought these tools
from. I can't remember what I have or what the new voltage is.

For driving screws, a 9.6 or 12 volt is really all you need most of
the time. But men being men, we often go to the higher voltages
because we can. I prefer something lighter that gets the job done.

That said, my car has a turbocharger and a top speed I'll probably
never see even though I've already hit 123 mph.

Hi,
Isn't there a saying, "The guy who has most toys wins at the end"



I don't expect to win, but I'm in the top half for sure.


How do we count?

Do they have to be functioning on their own, or can I count every
spare part I have?

Dan Espen[_2_] July 21st 13 12:52 AM

drill or screw driver
 
Gordon Shumway writes:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to
screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I
have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw
driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special
device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


The tool you are referring to is a battery powered drill/driver. It
can be used to drill holes or drive screws when the proper bit is
inserted in the chuck. The tool being used in the video is a Dewalt
drill/driver similar to this one:

http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless...s-dc759ka.aspx

DO NOT use a corded drill to try to drive screws! If you are not
familiar with this operation you can easily hurt yourself.

Corded drills don't have clutches to adjust the torque for that
application. Even if it is variable speed drill it is very difficult
to control the speed for driving screws. They are not intended for
that job.


I have a Ryobi corded drill.

With a clutch.

I've driven thousands of screws with it.

--
Dan Espen

Gordon Shumway July 21st 13 01:03 AM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:52:01 -0400, Dan Espen
wrote:

Gordon Shumway writes:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to
screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I
have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw
driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special
device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA


The tool you are referring to is a battery powered drill/driver. It
can be used to drill holes or drive screws when the proper bit is
inserted in the chuck. The tool being used in the video is a Dewalt
drill/driver similar to this one:

http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless...s-dc759ka.aspx

DO NOT use a corded drill to try to drive screws! If you are not
familiar with this operation you can easily hurt yourself.

Corded drills don't have clutches to adjust the torque for that
application. Even if it is variable speed drill it is very difficult
to control the speed for driving screws. They are not intended for
that job.


I have a Ryobi corded drill.

With a clutch.

I've driven thousands of screws with it.


I wasn't aware there was a corded drill with a clutch. I sincerely
apologize... even though Chris Mathews apologized for me yesterday.

Dan Espen[_2_] July 21st 13 03:21 PM

drill or screw driver
 
Gordon Shumway writes:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:52:01 -0400, Dan Espen
wrote:

Gordon Shumway writes:

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT), leza wang
wrote:

Hi all
In this video minute (0:40) the person is using machine to
screw. What this machine is? a drill with special head or what? I
have a drill but not cordless and i am thinking to use it as a screw
driver to screw a big board for my front house, or do I need special
device? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVc9FtozA

The tool you are referring to is a battery powered drill/driver. It
can be used to drill holes or drive screws when the proper bit is
inserted in the chuck. The tool being used in the video is a Dewalt
drill/driver similar to this one:

http://www.dewalt.com/tools/cordless...s-dc759ka.aspx

DO NOT use a corded drill to try to drive screws! If you are not
familiar with this operation you can easily hurt yourself.

Corded drills don't have clutches to adjust the torque for that
application. Even if it is variable speed drill it is very difficult
to control the speed for driving screws. They are not intended for
that job.


I have a Ryobi corded drill.

With a clutch.

I've driven thousands of screws with it.


I wasn't aware there was a corded drill with a clutch. I sincerely
apologize... even though Chris Mathews apologized for me yesterday.


No need to apologize but conceding the point shows a certain amount of
class.

I have no idea how uncommon a clutch in a drill is. When I built my
deck I realized I needed something with better control. Since then
I've screwed together the deck, each of the balusters in the railings,
and a couple hundred feet of hand built fencing.

Recently a friend bought be one of those battery powered hand drills.
like this:

http://tinyurl.com/m5ajemk

Which is great for interior light work, but for bigger jobs, I still
reach for corded drill.

--
Dan Espen

Gordon Shumway July 21st 13 06:50 PM

drill or screw driver
 
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:21:58 -0400, Dan Espen
wrote:


I have a Ryobi corded drill.

With a clutch.

I've driven thousands of screws with it.


I wasn't aware there was a corded drill with a clutch. I sincerely
apologize... even though Chris Mathews apologized for me yesterday.


No need to apologize but conceding the point shows a certain amount of
class.


Thank you.

I have no idea how uncommon a clutch in a drill is. When I built my
deck I realized I needed something with better control. Since then
I've screwed together the deck, each of the balusters in the railings,
and a couple hundred feet of hand built fencing.

Recently a friend bought be one of those battery powered hand drills.
like this:

http://tinyurl.com/m5ajemk

Which is great for interior light work, but for bigger jobs, I still
reach for corded drill.

--
Dan Espen


I recently bought a cordless impact driver for the task of driving
screws instead of using my cordless drill/driver for both driving
screws and drilling holes.

There was a big increase in performance over the drill for the task of
driving screws. Not only that, the impact driver was smaller so it
was able to get into tighter spots AND it weighed less.

Try one out. You'll like it too I'm sure.


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