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It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water
from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two different
days; not consecutive)

It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair
Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws filth
back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the manual prime.

I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump works.
Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too much air?
Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually prime? I tried
going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from backwashing into the
pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2 pressure on the filter,
which I don't think has ever happened before.

Anyone had this happen to them?

I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll throw
this out for starters.

TIA
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On Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:32:47 PM UTC-7, gonjah wrote:
It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water

from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two different

days; not consecutive)



It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair

Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws filth

back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the manual prime.



I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump works.

Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too much air?

Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually prime? I tried

going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from backwashing into the

pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2 pressure on the filter,

which I don't think has ever happened before.



Anyone had this happen to them?



I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll throw

this out for starters.



TIA


Is it backwash or are you sucking in dirt from a pipe leak?
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On Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:32:47 PM UTC-7, gonjah wrote:
It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water

from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two different

days; not consecutive)



It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair

Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws filth

back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the manual prime.



I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump works.

Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too much air?

Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually prime? I tried

going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from backwashing into the

pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2 pressure on the filter,

which I don't think has ever happened before.



Anyone had this happen to them?



I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll throw

this out for starters.



TIA


Is it backwash or are you sucking in dirt from a pipe leak?



It looks too much like backwash. Green dead algae. I backwashed it for
several minutes just now and got the system running again. I suspect the
sand filter is having issues. I'll have to spend some time with it to
see what's the matter. Weird that it's reading 1/2 pressure on the sand
filter while it's backwashing.

I'll have to leave it running continuously until I get a game plan.
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gonjah writes:

It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water
from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two
different days; not consecutive)

It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair
Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws
filth back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the
manual prime.

I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump
works. Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too
much air? Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually
prime? I tried going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from
backwashing into the pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2
pressure on the filter, which I don't think has ever happened before.

Anyone had this happen to them?

I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll
throw this out for starters.


In a sand filter, the accumulated dirt is on top of the sand.
If it's getting to the pool, the only way that can happen is
from the pump running backwards and the dirt would come out of
the strainer basket into the pool.

I assume that's not what you see so I don't understand what you have
going on.

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On Jun 13, 7:24*pm, gonjah wrote:
On 6/13/2013 7:01 PM, wrote:





On Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:32:47 PM UTC-7, gonjah wrote:
It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water


from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two different


days; not consecutive)


It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair


Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws filth


back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the manual prime.


I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump works.


Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too much air?


Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually prime? I tried


going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from backwashing into the


pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2 pressure on the filter,


which I don't think has ever happened before.


Anyone had this happen to them?


I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll throw


this out for starters.


TIA


Is it backwash or are you sucking in dirt from a pipe leak?


It looks too much like backwash. Green dead algae. I backwashed it for
several minutes just now and got the system running again. I suspect the
sand filter is having issues. I'll have to spend some time with it to
see what's the matter. Weird that it's reading 1/2 pressure on the sand
filter while it's backwashing.

I'll have to leave it running continuously until I get a game plan.- Hide quoted text -

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Any chance of something other than water somehow getting into the
system somewhere?


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On 6/13/2013 7:54 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
gonjah writes:

It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water
from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two
different days; not consecutive)

It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair
Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws
filth back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the
manual prime.

I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump
works. Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too
much air? Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually
prime? I tried going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from
backwashing into the pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2
pressure on the filter, which I don't think has ever happened before.

Anyone had this happen to them?

I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll
throw this out for starters.


In a sand filter, the accumulated dirt is on top of the sand.
If it's getting to the pool, the only way that can happen is
from the pump running backwards and the dirt would come out of
the strainer basket into the pool.

I assume that's not what you see so I don't understand what you have
going on.



The backwash was coming out of the pool inlet (jets). The normal way.
Actually, it was only coming out of the spa inlet jets.

Immediately I thought the muti-valve was broken. I took it off and
looked at it but I didn't try to move it. It's a pretty simple fix if it
is broken. I'm going to take it the pool store and see if they can help.
Start with the easy stuff.
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On 6/13/2013 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Jun 13, 7:24 pm, gonjah wrote:
On 6/13/2013 7:01 PM, wrote:





On Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:32:47 PM UTC-7, gonjah wrote:
It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water


from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two different


days; not consecutive)


It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair


Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws filth


back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the manual prime.


I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump works.


Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too much air?


Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually prime? I tried


going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from backwashing into the


pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2 pressure on the filter,


which I don't think has ever happened before.


Anyone had this happen to them?


I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll throw


this out for starters.


TIA


Is it backwash or are you sucking in dirt from a pipe leak?


It looks too much like backwash. Green dead algae. I backwashed it for
several minutes just now and got the system running again. I suspect the
sand filter is having issues. I'll have to spend some time with it to
see what's the matter. Weird that it's reading 1/2 pressure on the sand
filter while it's backwashing.

I'll have to leave it running continuously until I get a game plan.- Hide quoted text -

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Any chance of something other than water somehow getting into the
system somewhere?


Yeah. I can't rule out a plumbing leak but I don't think it's likely.
Too many other weird things going on. ie. 1/2 pressure on the backwash
and backwash going into the pool when the multi-valve isn't even set on
"backwash".
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On Jun 13, 8:54*pm, Dan Espen wrote:
gonjah writes:
It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water
from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two
different days; not consecutive)


It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair
Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws
filth back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the
manual prime.


I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump
works. Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too
much air? Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually
prime? I tried going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from
backwashing into the pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2
pressure on the filter, which I don't think has ever happened before.


Anyone had this happen to them?


I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll
throw this out for starters.


In a sand filter, the accumulated dirt is on top of the sand.
If it's getting to the pool, the only way that can happen is
from the pump running backwards and the dirt would come out of
the strainer basket into the pool.

I assume that's not what you see so I don't understand what you have
going on.

--


If I understand it correctly, he said some of the backwash
goes into the pool via the return lines when he's
BACKWASHING. The straightforward way for that to
happen is for the muti-port valve to be bad, so that
all the water isn't going where it should go.

Given that symptom, I would take apart the multiport
valve and inspect. If it's like mine, it's real easy. Just
a bunch of screws on top to remove and it comes
right apart. There is a spider gasket inside that may
be kaput. It also relies on spring tension under the
handle to bring the plate down after it's been rotated.
The shaft may need some lube, without which it can
hang up and not fully seat.
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On Jun 13, 9:36*pm, gonjah wrote:
On 6/13/2013 7:54 PM, Dan Espen wrote:





gonjah writes:


It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water
from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two
different days; not consecutive)


It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair
Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws
filth back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the
manual prime.


I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump
works. Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too
much air? Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually
prime? I tried going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from
backwashing into the pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2
pressure on the filter, which I don't think has ever happened before.


Anyone had this happen to them?


I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll
throw this out for starters.


In a sand filter, the accumulated dirt is on top of the sand.
If it's getting to the pool, the only way that can happen is
from the pump running backwards and the dirt would come out of
the strainer basket into the pool.


I assume that's not what you see so I don't understand what you have
going on.


The backwash was coming out of the pool inlet (jets). The normal way.
Actually, it was only coming out of the spa inlet jets.

Immediately I thought the muti-valve was broken. I took it off and
looked at it but I didn't try to move it. It's a pretty simple fix if it
is broken. I'm going to take it the pool store and see if they can help.
Start with the easy stuff. - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


See my preceeding post about the valve. No need to take
it off, in fact it's easier to service when it's held in place.

I think what you're saying is that the pump is losing prime
after is shuts off and sits for some amount of time, then
restarts? If so, any small air leak on the pool eqpt pad
can cause that. If air can get in, the water will drain back
to the pool, assuming of course the water level in the
pool is lower than the pool eqpt. Do you hear gurgling that
continues for minutes when the pump is shut off?


But the other odd thing is the pump should then prime
itself. It sounds like you're saying it doesn't and you have
to manually prime? Have you checked/cleaned the o-ring seal on the
pump strainer basket? If that isn't sealed,
it would certainly let air in and produce part of what you
are seeing, eg loss of prime when off.

You may have mutliple problems going on. But I'd start
with what is obviously wrong. If that is a normal installation,
I don't see how backwash dirt could wind up coming out
of the return lines when you backwash, unless the multi-port
valve is screwed up and letting water go where it should not.
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:32:47 -0500, gonjah wrote:

I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve
but I'll throw this out for starters.


Is your pump equipment above or below or at (pool) grade?



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On 6/14/2013 9:41 AM, Danny D wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:32:47 -0500, gonjah wrote:

I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve
but I'll throw this out for starters.


Is your pump equipment above or below or at (pool) grade?


Above
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On 6/14/2013 8:12 AM, wrote:
On Jun 13, 9:36 pm, gonjah wrote:
On 6/13/2013 7:54 PM, Dan Espen wrote:





gonjah writes:


It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water
from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two
different days; not consecutive)


It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair
Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws
filth back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the
manual prime.


I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump
works. Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too
much air? Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually
prime? I tried going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from
backwashing into the pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2
pressure on the filter, which I don't think has ever happened before.


Anyone had this happen to them?


I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll
throw this out for starters.


In a sand filter, the accumulated dirt is on top of the sand.
If it's getting to the pool, the only way that can happen is
from the pump running backwards and the dirt would come out of
the strainer basket into the pool.


I assume that's not what you see so I don't understand what you have
going on.


The backwash was coming out of the pool inlet (jets). The normal way.
Actually, it was only coming out of the spa inlet jets.

Immediately I thought the muti-valve was broken. I took it off and
looked at it but I didn't try to move it. It's a pretty simple fix if it
is broken. I'm going to take it the pool store and see if they can help.
Start with the easy stuff. - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


See my preceeding post about the valve. No need to take
it off, in fact it's easier to service when it's held in place.

I think what you're saying is that the pump is losing prime
after is shuts off and sits for some amount of time, then
restarts?


Right

If so, any small air leak on the pool eqpt pad
can cause that. If air can get in, the water will drain back
to the pool, assuming of course the water level in the
pool is lower than the pool eqpt.


Water level is fine

Do you hear gurgling that
continues for minutes when the pump is shut off?


No.


But the other odd thing is the pump should then prime
itself. It sounds like you're saying it doesn't and you have
to manually prime? Have you checked/cleaned the o-ring seal on the
pump strainer basket?



First thing

If that isn't sealed,
it would certainly let air in and produce part of what you
are seeing, eg loss of prime when off.

You may have mutliple problems going on. But I'd start
with what is obviously wrong. If that is a normal installation,
I don't see how backwash dirt could wind up coming out
of the return lines when you backwash, unless the multi-port
valve is screwed up and letting water go where it should not.


Good advice. I'm going to rebuild my two Jandy valves (return and inlet)
and the multi-valve.

I do think I've got a couple of issues going here. The gaskets have had
plenty of use and changing them can't be a bad idea.
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On Jun 15, 10:37*am, gonjah wrote:
On 6/14/2013 8:12 AM, wrote:





On Jun 13, 9:36 pm, gonjah wrote:
On 6/13/2013 7:54 PM, Dan Espen wrote:


gonjah writes:


It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking water
from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on two
different days; not consecutive)


It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a Pentair
Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then it throws
filth back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just fine after the
manual prime.


I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump
works. Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking too
much air? Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I manually
prime? I tried going to waste first, but it didn't stop it from
backwashing into the pool. When I put the valve on backwash I get 1/2
pressure on the filter, which I don't think has ever happened before..


Anyone had this happen to them?


I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll
throw this out for starters.


In a sand filter, the accumulated dirt is on top of the sand.
If it's getting to the pool, the only way that can happen is
from the pump running backwards and the dirt would come out of
the strainer basket into the pool.


I assume that's not what you see so I don't understand what you have
going on.


The backwash was coming out of the pool inlet (jets). The normal way.
Actually, it was only coming out of the spa inlet jets.


Immediately I thought the muti-valve was broken. I took it off and
looked at it but I didn't try to move it. It's a pretty simple fix if it
is broken. I'm going to take it the pool store and see if they can help.
Start with the easy stuff. - Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


See my preceeding post about the valve. *No need to take
it off, in fact it's easier to service when it's held in place.


I think what you're saying is that the pump is losing prime
after is shuts off and sits for some amount of time, then
restarts?


Right

* *If so, any small air leak on the pool eqpt pad

can cause that. *If air can get in, the water will drain back
to the pool, assuming of course the water level in the
pool is lower than the pool eqpt.


Water level is fine

* *Do you hear gurgling that

continues for minutes when the pump is shut off?


No.



But the other odd thing is the pump should then prime
itself. *It sounds like you're saying it doesn't and you have
to manually prime? * Have you checked/cleaned the o-ring seal on the
pump strainer basket?


First thing

If that isn't sealed,

it would certainly let air in and produce part of what you
are seeing, eg loss of prime when off.


You may have mutliple problems going on. *But I'd start
with what is obviously wrong. *If that is a normal installation,
I don't see how backwash dirt could wind up coming out
of the return lines when you backwash, unless the multi-port
valve is screwed up and letting water go where it should not.


Good advice. I'm going to rebuild my two Jandy valves (return and inlet)
and the multi-valve.

I do think I've got a couple of issues going here. The gaskets have had
plenty of use and changing them can't be a bad idea.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


FYI, I was having a problem at pool start-up this year with air
getting into the system and draining the filter while it was off.
You would think if air is getting in, water would be coming out,
at least on the pressure side. But the main problem was a
leak I found at a check-valve union. There might have been
some water coming out, because the pool pad was wet from
other sources at the time. But if any was coming out, it wasn't
much, nor did I hear any sound of air sucking in when the pump
was shut off. But I did hear gurgling when the pump was off
as air was going in and water going back to the pool. I
tightened up that union and then it seemed to be working
normally. No more gurgling or air filling the filter as soon as
it was shut off.

That was the main problem, but today I noticed that while the
pump was off all night, the filter again filled with air. I looked
around and noticed a little water coming out of the top of the
motorized Jandy valve. Funny thing, it only came out for a
minute or so and once pressurized it seemed to stop. This
is on the pressure side. So,
if I went looking for it later while the pump was running, I
probably would not have seen anything. The lesson here is
that air can get in with little evidence of water coming out,
so it can be hard to find. When I get a chance, I'll take
a look at the valve. It's coming from the top, so hopefully
it just needs tightening.
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gonjah wrote:
On 6/14/2013 8:12 AM, wrote:
On Jun 13, 9:36 pm, gonjah wrote:
On 6/13/2013 7:54 PM, Dan Espen wrote:





gonjah writes:

It appeared to be working fine then one day it stopped sucking
water from the intake on start up. (It's done this twice now on
two different days; not consecutive)

It's a 6 postion Hayward multi-valve with a sand filter and a
Pentair Whisperflo pump. I can manually prime the pump but then
it throws filth back into the pool. Pump pressure resumes just
fine after the manual prime.

I checked the multi-valve and it appears to be normal. The pump
works. Pressure comes right back. Could it be it's just sucking
too much air? Why does it throw backwash into the pool after I
manually prime? I tried going to waste first, but it didn't stop
it from backwashing into the pool. When I put the valve on
backwash I get 1/2 pressure on the filter, which I don't think
has ever happened before.

Anyone had this happen to them?

I'm sure this isn't enough info to properly problem solve but I'll
throw this out for starters.

In a sand filter, the accumulated dirt is on top of the sand.
If it's getting to the pool, the only way that can happen is
from the pump running backwards and the dirt would come out of
the strainer basket into the pool.

I assume that's not what you see so I don't understand what you
have going on.

The backwash was coming out of the pool inlet (jets). The normal
way. Actually, it was only coming out of the spa inlet jets.

Immediately I thought the muti-valve was broken. I took it off and
looked at it but I didn't try to move it. It's a pretty simple fix
if it is broken. I'm going to take it the pool store and see if
they can help. Start with the easy stuff. - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


See my preceeding post about the valve. No need to take
it off, in fact it's easier to service when it's held in place.

I think what you're saying is that the pump is losing prime
after is shuts off and sits for some amount of time, then
restarts?


Right

If so, any small air leak on the pool eqpt pad
can cause that. If air can get in, the water will drain back
to the pool, assuming of course the water level in the
pool is lower than the pool eqpt.


Water level is fine

Do you hear gurgling that
continues for minutes when the pump is shut off?


No.


But the other odd thing is the pump should then prime
itself. It sounds like you're saying it doesn't and you have
to manually prime? Have you checked/cleaned the o-ring seal on the
pump strainer basket?



First thing

If that isn't sealed,
it would certainly let air in and produce part of what you
are seeing, eg loss of prime when off.

You may have mutliple problems going on. But I'd start
with what is obviously wrong. If that is a normal installation,
I don't see how backwash dirt could wind up coming out
of the return lines when you backwash, unless the multi-port
valve is screwed up and letting water go where it should not.


Good advice. I'm going to rebuild my two Jandy valves (return and
inlet) and the multi-valve.

I do think I've got a couple of issues going here. The gaskets have
had plenty of use and changing them can't be a bad idea.


Try listening at various places where the leak could be occuring a few minutes
after shutting off the pump. If you touch your ear to the piping anywhere near
the leak, you should be able to hear the air leaking in. That might help you
zero in on the problem.




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Is your pump equipment above or below or at (pool) grade?

Above


Ah. Good for you.

Then you won't have *this* problem when the pumps are off!

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335250.jpg

Your problem will be the *opposite* of my pool leak experiences.

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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:24:53 +0000 (UTC), Danny D
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:17:50 -0500, gonjah wrote:

Is your pump equipment above or below or at (pool) grade?

Above


Ah. Good for you.

Then you won't have *this* problem when the pumps are off!

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335250.jpg

Your problem will be the *opposite* of my pool leak experiences.


Hey Danny, you have a geyser on top of that filter. I can see it.

Where is the PSI gauge?
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Hey Danny, you have a geyser on top of that filter. I can see it.
Where is the PSI gauge?


Heh heh... Yeah.

I had just put the pool filter back together after measuring all these
fittings trying to source the missing C clips:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335315.jpg

The pumps were off, but as soon as I opened the Jandy valves, this three-
foot geyser shot up, which itself is about four feet off the ground!
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335323.jpg

So that's about 7 feet of head, which matches (pretty much) the fact the
equipment is 8 feet below grade.

My problem is the darn thing leaks when the pumps are turned off.

One leak is at the filter inlet, which appears to be a proprietary
fitting:
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335317.jpg

The other leaks are at the ion-exchange thingy, which I am going to cut
out and replace:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335330.jpg

I'm not sure *what* that "nut" is on the left of that ion-exchange thing
but I'll just replace it with a straight fitting of some sort.

My hardest problem is finding the right sized c-clips for the filter pump
clamps (which are only sold as a unit). I was able to *fabricate* a
temporary plastic washer though, for the clamps:
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335318.jpg

But, my main problem is sourcing these odd-sized c-clips!
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335315.jpg

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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:37:44 -0700, Oren wrote:

Where is the PSI gauge?


It's back on now (19 psi):
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335715.jpg

One by one, I'm identifying and fixing the leaks.
I really wish I had replaced all the plumbing to the filter, but that
filter seems to have proprietary fittings on the inlet & outlet:
UIII 192P THREAD-SLIP UIII 196P-SLIP-THREAD
2" UNION ASSEMBLIES
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335722.jpg

The other fitting says:
UIII 192P THREAD-THREAD UIII 193P SLIP-SLIP
2" UNION ASSEMBLIES
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335723.jpg

Here's a large picture of the proprietary designation:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335729.jpg

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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:37:44 -0700, Oren wrote:

Where is the PSI gauge?


It's back on now (19 psi):
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335715.jpg

One by one, I'm identifying and fixing the leaks.
I really wish I had replaced all the plumbing to the filter, but that
filter seems to have proprietary fittings on the inlet & outlet:
UIII 192P THREAD-SLIP UIII 196P-SLIP-THREAD
2" UNION ASSEMBLIES
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335722.jpg

The other fitting says:
UIII 192P THREAD-THREAD UIII 193P SLIP-SLIP
2" UNION ASSEMBLIES
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335723.jpg

Here's a large picture of the proprietary designation:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335729.jpg



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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:00:47 +0000 (UTC), Danny D
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One by one, I'm identifying and fixing the leaks.
I really wish I had replaced all the plumbing to the filter, but that
filter seems to have proprietary fittings on the inlet & outlet:
UIII 192P THREAD-SLIP UIII 196P-SLIP-THREAD
2" UNION ASSEMBLIES
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335722.jpg

The other fitting says:
UIII 192P THREAD-THREAD UIII 193P SLIP-SLIP
2" UNION ASSEMBLIES
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335723.jpg

Here's a large picture of the proprietary designation:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13335729.jpg


Can't help you with that fitting. Best to just buy the two O-rings to
stop the leak (s).

Unless is cracked or something.
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:10:27 -0700, Oren wrote:

Can't help you with that fitting.
Best to just buy the two O-rings to stop the leak (s).
Unless is cracked or something.


Thanks for the advice Oren.

It's the *last* leak I need to fix at the pool equipment:
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13343543.jpg

I'll call Sta-Rite to try to source the proprietary fittings or, at the
very least, to figure out the part number for the o-rings inside:
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/13343549.jpg

When I replace the leaking part, I'll have no leaks at the pool
equipment, and I can move on to repairing the myriad leaks in the solar
heating plumbing.

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