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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the
Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? (Best viewed with at least 72 chars. width) "States Affected by Sandy" "Swing States" "Affected Swingers" CONNECTICUT Arizona MAINE DELAWARE Colorado NEW HAMPSHIRE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Florida NORTH CAROLINA MAINE Iowa OHIO MARYLAND Main PENNSYLVANIA MASSACHUSETTS Michigan VIRGINIA NEW HAMPSHIRE Minnesota NEW JERSEY Nevada NEW YORK New Hampshire NORTH CAROLINA New Mexico OHIO North Carolina PENNSYLVANIA Ohio RHODE ISLAND Pennsylvania SOUTH CAROLINA Virginia VIRGINIA Wisconsin WEST VIRGINIA |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:54:06 -0500, G. Morgan
wrote: Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? (Best viewed with at least 72 chars. width) "States Affected by Sandy" "Swing States" "Affected Swingers" CONNECTICUT Arizona MAINE DELAWARE Colorado NEW HAMPSHIRE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Florida NORTH CAROLINA MAINE Iowa OHIO MARYLAND Main PENNSYLVANIA MASSACHUSETTS Michigan VIRGINIA NEW HAMPSHIRE Minnesota NEW JERSEY Nevada NEW YORK New Hampshire NORTH CAROLINA New Mexico OHIO North Carolina PENNSYLVANIA Ohio RHODE ISLAND Pennsylvania SOUTH CAROLINA Virginia VIRGINIA Wisconsin WEST VIRGINIA Per CNN, it is determined by state. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
Doug wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:54:06 -0500, G. Morgan wrote: Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? (Best viewed with at least 72 chars. width) "States Affected by Sandy" "Swing States" "Affected Swingers" CONNECTICUT Arizona MAINE DELAWARE Colorado NEW HAMPSHIRE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Florida NORTH CAROLINA MAINE Iowa OHIO MARYLAND Main PENNSYLVANIA MASSACHUSETTS Michigan VIRGINIA NEW HAMPSHIRE Minnesota NEW JERSEY Nevada NEW YORK New Hampshire NORTH CAROLINA New Mexico OHIO North Carolina PENNSYLVANIA Ohio RHODE ISLAND Pennsylvania SOUTH CAROLINA Virginia VIRGINIA Wisconsin WEST VIRGINIA Per CNN, it is determined by state. In general, true, BUT election for federal office was established by Congress as the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. Individual states may tinker at the margins, such as hours of operation, early voting, etc., but a state can't actually CHANGE the official election date. Come to think on it, though, if a state has, so far, unfettered ability to massage "early" or "absentee" voting, it seems possible that a state could set up "late" voting under the same logic. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
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"HeyBub" wrote: D In general, true, BUT election for federal office was established by Congress as the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. Individual states may tinker at the margins, such as hours of operation, early voting, etc., but a state can't actually CHANGE the official election date. But Congress could since the only thing in the Constitution is that Congress will set things up (the unstated part being whenever they damn well decided they wanted to). However, getting Congress together to pass anything in the timeframe is sorta iffy. 2 USC § 7 - Time of election states the first Tuesday after the first Monday. Come to think on it, though, if a state has, so far, unfettered ability to massage "early" or "absentee" voting, it seems possible that a state could set up "late" voting under the same logic. Not really. The first Tuesday, etc., is the day of ELECTION under 2 USC. That has to be day they are counted. When the VOTING takes place is open as long as done by then. -- America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article , "HeyBub" wrote: D In general, true, BUT election for federal office was established by Congress as the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. Individual states may tinker at the margins, such as hours of operation, early voting, etc., but a state can't actually CHANGE the official election date. But Congress could since the only thing in the Constitution is that Congress will set things up (the unstated part being whenever they damn well decided they wanted to). However, getting Congress together to pass anything in the timeframe is sorta iffy. 2 USC § 7 - Time of election states the first Tuesday after the first Monday. Come to think on it, though, if a state has, so far, unfettered ability to massage "early" or "absentee" voting, it seems possible that a state could set up "late" voting under the same logic. Not really. The first Tuesday, etc., is the day of ELECTION under 2 USC. That has to be day they are counted. When the VOTING takes place is open as long as done by then. Good point. Thanks. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:12:27 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote: In article , "HeyBub" wrote: Come to think on it, though, if a state has, so far, unfettered ability to massage "early" or "absentee" voting, it seems possible that a state could set up "late" voting under the same logic. Not really. The first Tuesday, etc., is the day of ELECTION under 2 USC. That has to be day they are counted. THat could be exactly true, because several states, maybe most or all, don't promise to count absentee votes until about a week later. When the VOTING takes place is open as long as done by then. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:05:50 -0500, Doug
wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:54:06 -0500, G. Morgan wrote: Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? (Best viewed with at least 72 chars. width) "States Affected by Sandy" "Swing States" "Affected Swingers" CONNECTICUT Arizona MAINE DELAWARE Colorado NEW HAMPSHIRE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Florida NORTH CAROLINA MAINE Iowa OHIO MARYLAND Main PENNSYLVANIA MASSACHUSETTS Michigan VIRGINIA NEW HAMPSHIRE Minnesota NEW JERSEY Nevada NEW YORK New Hampshire NORTH CAROLINA New Mexico OHIO North Carolina PENNSYLVANIA Ohio RHODE ISLAND Pennsylvania SOUTH CAROLINA Virginia VIRGINIA Wisconsin WEST VIRGINIA Per CNN, it is determined by state. After checking the Seattle Times and another source, I concur with some other posters. The Presidential election day can not change unless by Congress, not by the state. As to early voting or absentee voting, no idea but guessing the state. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:55:59 -0500, Doug
wrote: After checking the Seattle Times and another source, I concur with some other posters. The Presidential election day can not change unless by Congress, not by the state. As to early voting or absentee voting, no idea but guessing the state. Per a story on NPR, at least one state allows extending the voting a day or two but there are very special conditions that probably can't be met. Like voter participation must be less than 25% of some sort of test of normal. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:54:06 -0500, G. Morgan
wrote: Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? Elections can be postponed from Dog Catcher to Congressional elections. National election for president cannot be postponed. An election supervisor can have a contingency plan for generator support at polling places. Or use hanging chads. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On 10/30/2012 4:35 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:54:06 -0500, G. Morgan wrote: Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? Elections can be postponed from Dog Catcher to Congressional elections. National election for president cannot be postponed. An election supervisor can have a contingency plan for generator support at polling places. Or use hanging chads. Not fair. Those that voted early may not get to vote again. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
"G. Morgan" wrote in message ... Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? -- Good God you are as dumb as the multi breed ****wit you voted for in 2008. You claim to be a successful computer business man (except for the eyeball deep in debt thing) yet you continuely show you have no idea how the governemnt works or why it does what it does. To postpone would take an act of congress. Ain't gonna happen. So next week go vote, then go sign up for some government classes. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:41:04 -0400, "BurfordTJustice"
wrote: To postpone would take an act of congress. Ain't gonna happen. So next week go vote, then go sign up for some government classes. No matter what happens, no matter who wins, the opposing party will probably contest it and take it to the courts. Should be fun to watch. |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
In article ,
Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:41:04 -0400, "BurfordTJustice" wrote: To postpone would take an act of congress. Ain't gonna happen. So next week go vote, then go sign up for some government classes. No matter what happens, no matter who wins, the opposing party will probably contest it and take it to the courts. Should be fun to watch. I can't see them contesting the timing. Other than that, I am sure there will be fun. My hope is that Congress DOESN'T change the timing. I am not sure I can get through another week of wall-to-wall Super Pac ads without cutting my wrists. -- America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
G. Morgan formulated on Tuesday :
Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? I'm sure we'll be okay (NH) by the time voting day comes. I'm wondering if this is the first time those blowhards have been upstaged like this though. [...] |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
G. Morgan wrote:
Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? (Best viewed with at least 72 chars. width) "States Affected by Sandy" "Swing States" "Affected Swingers" CONNECTICUT Arizona MAINE DELAWARE Colorado NEW HAMPSHIRE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Florida NORTH CAROLINA MAINE Iowa OHIO MARYLAND Main PENNSYLVANIA MASSACHUSETTS Michigan VIRGINIA NEW HAMPSHIRE Minnesota NEW JERSEY Nevada NEW YORK New Hampshire NORTH CAROLINA New Mexico OHIO North Carolina PENNSYLVANIA Ohio RHODE ISLAND Pennsylvania SOUTH CAROLINA Virginia VIRGINIA Wisconsin WEST VIRGINIA I heard some where that many people in those states voted early in preparation for the storm. -- Jenn |
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Were they living people?
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jenn" wrote in message ... I heard some where that many people in those states voted early in preparation for the storm. -- Jenn |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:54:06 -0500, G. Morgan
wrote: With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA All of their votes will automatically be given to Mickey Mouse as a write-in. With any luck, he will win, since he's the best candidate at present. |
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Even if there were a clause in your constitution saying that elections could be postponed in the event of a natural disaster, that's not going to resolve the situation.
People would then be arguing over whether or not to invoke such a clause to delay the election, and whether or not doing that would affect the results of the election. In my view, it's better to have the election on the scheduled day and let the chips fall where they may. Truth be known, BOTH of your candidates would make for a good president. They have different slants on the Robin Hood politics of taking from the rich and giving to the poor, but beyond that, they're both experienced politicians, they're both intelligent and level headed people, they both have good advisors to choose from, and they'd both make good decisions. Last edited by nestork : October 31st 12 at 04:44 AM |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On 10-31-2012 00:38, nestork wrote:
Truth be known, BOTH of your candidates would make for a good president. My opinion is you are wrong twice. Not that it matters much. Both are likely to give Congress whatever it wants. -- Wes Groleau What kind of smiley is C:\ ? |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On Oct 30, 4:54*pm, G. Morgan wrote:
Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. *This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. *They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? *If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. *It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? (Best viewed with at least 72 chars. width) "States Affected by Sandy" * *"Swing States" * * * *"Affected Swingers" CONNECTICUT * * * * * * Arizona * * * * MAINE DELAWARE * * * * * * * *Colorado * * * * * * * *NEW HAMPSHIRE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA * *Florida * * * * NORTH CAROLINA MAINE * * * * * * * * * Iowa * * * * * *OHIO MARYLAND * * * * * * * *Main * * * * * *PENNSYLVANIA MASSACHUSETTS * * * * * Michigan * * * * * * * *VIRGINIA NEW HAMPSHIRE * * * * * Minnesota NEW JERSEY * * * * * * *Nevada NEW YORK * * * * * * * *New Hampshire NORTH CAROLINA * * * * *New Mexico OHIO * * * * * * * * * *North Carolina PENNSYLVANIA * * * * * *Ohio RHODE ISLAND * * * * * *Pennsylvania SOUTH CAROLINA * * * * *Virginia VIRGINIA * * * * * * * * * * * *Wisconsin WEST VIRGINIA Maybe it will be postphoned? |
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What happens now to the election due to Hurricane Sandy?
On 10/30/2012 12:54 PM, G. Morgan wrote:
Okay, there are an estimated 6-10 million people without power in the Atlantic coastal United States. This power outage could easily last past November 6 in many areas, which of course is election day. With public transportation disrupted or non-existent, or no power at the polling places - what will happen if millions can not vote because of the storm's effects? Five "swing states" are heavily affected by the storm. They include: MAINE NEW HAMPSHIRE NORTH CAROLINA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA VIRGINIA If these people are unable to vote due to flooding, power outages, lack of transportation, etc... what "backup plan" is there, if any? If the election were to be postponed, it would only seem fair to postpone it for *every* state and territory. It wouldn't be right if 16/50 states had to wait while the rest of the country votes on Nov. 6th. Does anyone know if there is a law that provides for postponement in the event of a natural disaster? (Best viewed with at least 72 chars. width) "States Affected by Sandy" "Swing States" "Affected Swingers" CONNECTICUT Arizona MAINE DELAWARE Colorado NEW HAMPSHIRE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Florida NORTH CAROLINA MAINE Iowa OHIO MARYLAND Main PENNSYLVANIA MASSACHUSETTS Michigan VIRGINIA NEW HAMPSHIRE Minnesota NEW JERSEY Nevada NEW YORK New Hampshire NORTH CAROLINA New Mexico OHIO North Carolina PENNSYLVANIA Ohio RHODE ISLAND Pennsylvania SOUTH CAROLINA Virginia VIRGINIA Wisconsin WEST VIRGINIA NJ is looking to use military vehicles as temporary polling stations: http://www.northjersey.com/news/NJ_m...or_voters.html ....and extending the deadline for mail-in ballots: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...ballot_de.html -- "We all should vote 'forward' - just don't vote Barack-ward..." MFB |
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