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Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad
said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:20:41 AM UTC-5, (unknown) wrote:
I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). Check he https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Can$20Coleman$20Stoves$20use$20regular$20gasoline?/rec.outdoors.camping/LyDW3iNSPMI/1DG1af2ZjYQJ |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
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Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:20:41 -0500, wrote
Re Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?: Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? That's what I would use. -- Work is the curse of the drinking class. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
Years ago, I read that Coleman made "dual fuel" stoves for a while, the fuel
tank was a different color. Got to be a web site out there some where, details all this. I'd advise using Coleman fuel, because it's less likely to damage stove. You only use a gallon or so a year, so the cost savings isn't all that great. I also prefer propane. The tanks are heavy to carry, but everything is a trade off. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
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Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
"Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:20:41 -0500, wrote: -snip- Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? When unleaded first became available we used it in our Coleman with no ill effects for a few years. Only ill effects are you and everyone near you were exposed additives that are hazardous to one's health. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 2012-06-13, wrote:
Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_gas .....which inlcudes links to coleman fuel and naptha. Also, google "dual fuel" camp stoves/lanterns. Coleman still makes 'em, as does MSR and Britelyt: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Du...-Stove/9870596 http://www.backcountry.com/msr-dragonfly-stove ....and lanterns: http://www.coleman.com/product/229-725 http://www.britelyt.com/prod1.htm If you use propane and jes have a stove someone gave you, whataya got to lose. Try some unlead gas. At worst something will clog up. Last I knew, Coleman had actual service centers that would rebuild and/or repair their stoves/lanterns. If they still exist in this online world, you could have the old one retrofitted with new dual fuel (say five time, fast!) parts. nb -- vi --the heart of evil! Support labeling GMOs http://www.labelgmos.org/ |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
wrote in message ... I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). Some Coleman stove can run on BOTH white gas and gasoline They are clearly marked as such. The rest is ONLY white gas. Coleman lanterns are ONLY white gas (to the best of my knowledge) Although white gas is more expensive than gasoline, it has the advantage that they come in sealed gallon cans that can be stored nearly indefinitely. In a pinch you can run low octane NO lead gasoline in both stoves and lamps But the generators can get gunked up over time |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:35:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:20:41 -0500, wrote: I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). Lead was the big problem and that has been eliminated. Gas today may contain ethanol, MBTE, and a host of other additives. The Coleman fuel is probably pure gas. Coleman says: This appliance is designed to use Coleman® Liquid Fuel. €˘ Never use kerosene or automotive fuel. There is a part called the "generator" than can possibly be damaged Troubleshooting a poor flame Replace with a new generator. This is a normal periodic maintenance procedure. The generator life is dependent on the type of fuel used. Generator life is extended by using clean Coleman® Liquid Fuel Like you, I'd get a propane stove I guess a related question is "how long does Coleman fuel last before it goes bad"? It doesn't That's the benefit of having a few cans as spares for emergencies. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:14:21 AM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote: I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). Hi, It will work but not as good and very sooty. I would also think there is a health concern with additives being burned near food stuffs. Where Coleman fuel and naptha would burn cleaner. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
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I just bought a 6-pack of those stubby propane tanks at Sam's for $17 -- seems like they cost twice that 10 years ago when I bought the last one. Jim Somewhere I saw an adapter that lets you refill those little tanks from a larger one. Maybe you could save money that way? -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us "The sense of spiritual relief which comes from rejecting the idea of God as a supernatural being is enormous." [Julian Huxley] |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Jun 13, 11:20*am, wrote:
I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. *But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. *I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). *Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. *Easier to use and safer).. The reason for not using leaded gas was that you would be inhaling the lead fumes, especially if used in confined spaces. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20:41 AM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? True the Coleman fuel is expensive but these stoves will run for a very long time on a gallon. Of course if you're up for an experiment, the worst that can happen is the stove won't light. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 6/13/2012 1:34 PM, harry wrote:
On Jun 13, 11:20 am, wrote: I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). The reason for not using leaded gas was that you would be inhaling the lead fumes, especially if used in confined spaces. where ya gonna get leaded gas? -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
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Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:01:12 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote: [snip] I just bought a 6-pack of those stubby propane tanks at Sam's for $17 -- seems like they cost twice that 10 years ago when I bought the last one. Jim Somewhere I saw an adapter that lets you refill those little tanks from a larger one. Maybe you could save money that way? I got one of those when the tanks were $5 or so each. I wasn't that impressed. Now, with the tanks under $3, I wouldn't even bother to google the valve. Jim |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
"Steve Barker" wrote in message ... On 6/13/2012 1:34 PM, harry wrote: On Jun 13, 11:20 am, wrote: I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). The reason for not using leaded gas was that you would be inhaling the lead fumes, especially if used in confined spaces. where ya gonna get leaded gas? Still available. Small aircraft fuel is still leaded There is also a lead replacement that you add to regular unleaded gas. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Jun 13, 11:37*am, "NotMe" wrote:
"Jim Elbrecht" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:20:41 -0500, wrote: -snip- Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. *I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). *Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? When unleaded first became available we used it in our Coleman with no ill effects for a few years. Only ill effects are you and everyone near you were exposed additives that are hazardous to one's health. Like those same chemicals are not pouring out of the exhaust pips of millions of cars and trucks everyday? |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
I've got one of those. The Ozark Trail tanks have always leaked, when I
refilled them. I'm told the Coleman tanks are more servicable. I didn't fill enough small tanks, to recoup the cost of the adaptor. There is a specific list of instructions, to follow. The propane "tree" to use the 20# tanks, are useful in some situations. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Mark Lloyd" wrote in message om... Somewhere I saw an adapter that lets you refill those little tanks from a larger one. Maybe you could save money that way? |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
jamesgangnc wrote in news:144c5a68-f389-4ffd-8ae3-
: On Jun 13, 11:37*am, "NotMe" wrote: Only ill effects are you and everyone near you were exposed additives that are hazardous to one's health. Like those same chemicals are not pouring out of the exhaust pips of millions of cars and trucks everyday? Actually, no, they are not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
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Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:00:22 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
wrote: wrote in news:dsmgt75h3to4qnudb6a9a5doc5i1t4tqp5@ 4ax.com: I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". "White gas" is naphtha. It's *not* the same as gasoline at all. I used Coleman fuel in my Coleman stove. Didn't have to think about it, or learn chemistry. Doesn't cost all that much and comes in a handy can. I mean, how much fuel do you use? We didn't finish a can on a 23 day trip, cooking about once a day, and boiling water for coffee twice a day. -- Vic |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
Doug Miller wrote:
wrote in news:dsmgt75h3to4qnudb6a9a5doc5i1t4tqp5@ 4ax.com: I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". "White gas" is naphtha. It's *not* the same as gasoline at all. Years ago, I used to use Amoco clear gasoline in the colemans. The current alcohol blends could be a problem when sitting in tank for a long time. Greg |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 2012-06-14, gregz wrote:
alcohol blends could be a problem when sitting in tank for a long time. I've yet to see a single thing other than anecdotal evidence this is true. A simple solution, if true, is to empty the damn tank. DUH! nb -- vi --the heart of evil! Support labeling GMOs http://www.labelgmos.org/ |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 14 Jun 2012 02:04:24 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2012-06-14, gregz wrote: alcohol blends could be a problem when sitting in tank for a long time. I've yet to see a single thing other than anecdotal evidence this is true. A simple solution, if true, is to empty the damn tank. DUH! nb Any brass or copper in the generator etc can be dammaged by hooch in the fuel. The "greenies" are a real mess - caused by water in the fuel, disolved in hooch. |
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Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:56:10 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote: On 6/13/2012 1:34 PM, harry wrote: On Jun 13, 11:20 am, wrote: I no longer own one of these old stoves, but as a child, I recall my dad said you had to use "White Gas" and could never use "red gas" from the gas station. But back then, red gas meant leaded gas, and the reason for not using it was because the lead would clog something in the stove (not sure what). Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? Anyone know? (Personally, I prefer propane camping stoves. Easier to use and safer). The reason for not using leaded gas was that you would be inhaling the lead fumes, especially if used in confined spaces. where ya gonna get leaded gas? Take a gallon of gas, and dump in a dozen lead bullets. Let it soak overnight, and you have leaded gas! |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 6/13/2012 10:37 AM, NotMe wrote:
"Jim wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:20:41 -0500, wrote: -snip- Anyhow, a friend just got one of these old stoves and wants to know what to burn. I know Coleman fuel is costly, and gas stations no longer sell the stuff called "white gas". Yet, no gasoline contains lead anymore, and it's all white in color. (actually clear). Therefore, I cant see why a person cant just use any standard unleaded gasoline? When unleaded first became available we used it in our Coleman with no ill effects for a few years. Only ill effects are you and everyone near you were exposed additives that are hazardous to one's health. As long as they don't kill innocent little ozones. ^_^ TDD |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 6/13/2012 10:04 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2012-06-14, wrote: alcohol blends could be a problem when sitting in tank for a long time. I've yet to see a single thing other than anecdotal evidence this is true. A simple solution, if true, is to empty the damn tank. DUH! nb Here you go: http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/...and-corrosion/ |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 2012-06-14, Moe Gasser wrote:
Here you go: No, there you go. More hedging and speculation. Nothing truly conclusive. If we're gonna talk more anecdotal experience, howzabout the fact I've been using E10 for over fifteen years and have had zero problems. Again, empty the tanks and drain the systems if yer gonna let stuff sit forever. Reply if you choose, but I'm not gonna continue this discussion. I consider it a nonexistent problem and refuse to argue a non-issue. nb -- vi --the heart of evil! Support labeling GMOs http://www.labelgmos.org/ |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 14 Jun 2012 02:22:10 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2012-06-14, wrote: Any brass or copper in the generator etc can be dammaged by hooch in the fuel. The "greenies" are a real mess - caused by water in the fuel, disolved in hooch. Gee, ppl been putting alcohol based additives in their tanks to rid it of water for what? ....decades!? Mostly a pint or less in 20 gallons. The winter mix in the northeast has 2 *gallons* in 20, if I remember right. [anyone that knows the right percentage- please correct me if I'm wrong] Like I said, empty the freakin' tank! Leaving perfectly good gas (no ethanol) will also leave a varnish that will hose the system. You're right, there-- the fix is pretty easy. Jim |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:01:12 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote: [snip] I just bought a 6-pack of those stubby propane tanks at Sam's for $17 -- seems like they cost twice that 10 years ago when I bought the last one. Jim Somewhere I saw an adapter that lets you refill those little tanks from a larger one. Maybe you could save money that way? I got one of those refill adaptors probably 20 years ago. I dont recall where I got it. They were and probably still are illegal. The problem I encountered was that I could not find a tool to buy to open the relief valve. This is similar to a tire valve stem but too deep in the cylinder to use a regular tire tool. I made my own tool. I refilled lots of bottles, but the majority of them leaked afterwards, so I'd store them outdoors under a piece of plywood. I suspect the reason for the leaking was because I would overfill them. I know all propane tanks are only supposed to be filled to 80%. I had no way to regulate the amount of fill on these tanks. I found a camping supply store that sold some cylinders MADE TO BE REFILLED. They were supposedly legal, and were easier to refill. But they too tended to leak. I have not refilled them in years. Dont even know where that adaptor is anymore. These days I use a 20lb tank with an adaptor to fit my Coleman stove, and everything else that uses propane. About the only time I use the small cylinders is for my torches. At $3 a tank, it's not worth the hassle to refill them, and then have leakers to deal with afterwards. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:01:47 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 6/13/2012 1:44 PM, wrote: Of course if you're up for an experiment, the worst that can happen isthe stove won't light. You're sure that's "the worst that can happen"??? Yes, I am. This isn't a 1970's police drama or a Warner Bros. cartoon. I suppose you're thinking "explosion." To get an explosion you would have to have spilled a quantity of fuel, and stupidly lit the stove anyway, OR you would have had to have broken/defeated a number of safety devices/procedures. Either way you deserve to lose your eyebrows. Try some basic physics: If the gasoline atomizes too well it will go "poof" and the stove will not remain lit. If the gasoline doesn't atomize well enough it won't light at all. You're supposed to shut off the valve in a failure to light situation, not let the fuel continue to spray/dribble. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 6/14/2012 7:37 AM, notbob wrote:
More hedging and speculation. Nothing truly conclusive. If we're gonna talk more anecdotal experience, howzabout the fact I've been using E10 for over fifteen years and have had zero problems. Again, empty the tanks and drain the systems if yer gonna let stuff sit forever. Ethanol fuel is great...for corn farmers, John Deere and the makers of Sta-Bil. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
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Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
Give it a try.
In your living room. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:05:08 -0500, micky
wrote: Look what Coleman itself has to say. "Our DualFuel™ appliances are made to accommodate automobile fuel. Right there is their statement that it's safe, even if they don't use that word. That's what would make them liable if they are wrong. Coleman's modified valving even allows for differences between summer and winter blends. At 1/10 of the cost of propane, unleaded gas is the cheapest of all appliance fuels. They're even pushing it here. And it's available everywhere, of course. In an emergency, you can siphon gas from the tank of your RV or car to use in a DualFuel lantern or stove. And here and here. Although it's the most economical fuel to use, you'll extend the life of your appliance by using purer Coleman™ Fuel most of the time. Main advantages: availability and low cost. " BTW, I don't think for a moment that the dualfuel somehow neutralizes bad effects of fuel additives. It must be that the fuel additives also get burned up and that what if any doesn't is not harmful. Maybe it disperses and you'd have to keep your nose next to the flame all the time to get an appreciable amount. |
Can Coleman Stoves use regular gasoline?
On 2015-03-01, Vic Smith wrote:
I used unleaded gas in my Coleman stove. Never had a problem. I agree. I had Coleman stoves and lanterns in the 50s-60s. The Amoco guy sed their white gas was jes unleaded, so that's what I always used. Worked fine for decades. Now, Coleman come's out with a "dual-fuel" line of stoves/lanterns. Runs on both Coleman fuel AND unleaded gasoline. What the heck did I have before? ;) nb |
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