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Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 5th 12 03:16 PM

Who is it?
 
His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.







Snag[_3_] April 5th 12 03:49 PM

Who is it?
 
Stormin Mormon wrote:
His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.


Sounds like our old friend J. Edgar Hoover .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !



Bob-tx[_3_] April 5th 12 04:37 PM

Who is it?
 


"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.

Before the US got involved in the European part of WW2, these were the
profile characteristics the OSS (Now the CIA) said applied to Adolf Hitler.

Bob-tx


Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 5th 12 04:50 PM

Who is it?
 
Well, that's totally possible. But, not who I had in mind.

Christopher A. Young
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..

"Snag" wrote in message
...

Sounds like our old friend J. Edgar Hoover .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !





Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 5th 12 04:52 PM

Who is it?
 
I'm seriously impressed. We have great wisdom, on this list.

For round two. Which radio talk show host mentioned this
list of profile, on his / her show, Wed April 04, 2012?

Christopher A. Young
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"Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote in message
.. .


Before the US got involved in the European part of WW2, these were the
profile characteristics the OSS (Now the CIA) said applied to Adolf Hitler.

Bob-tx




N8N April 5th 12 04:57 PM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 5, 11:52*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I'm seriously impressed. We have great wisdom, on this list.

For round two. Which *radio talk show host mentioned this
list of profile, on his / her show, Wed April 04, 2012?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote in k.net...

Before the US got involved in the European part of WW2, these were the
profile characteristics the OSS (Now the CIA) said applied to Adolf Hitler.


HeyBub[_3_] April 5th 12 05:00 PM

Who is it?
 
Stormin Mormon wrote:
His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.


I call Godwin.



DerbyDad03 April 5th 12 05:07 PM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 5, 11:52*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
I'm seriously impressed. We have great wisdom, on this list.

For round two. Which *radio talk show host mentioned this
list of profile, on his / her show, Wed April 04, 2012?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Bob-tx" Live Spam free wrote in k.net...

Before the US got involved in the European part of WW2, these were the
profile characteristics the OSS (Now the CIA) said applied to Adolf Hitler.


Tim Wescott April 5th 12 05:25 PM

Who is it?
 
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:16:47 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off; never admit
a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your
enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame;
concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that
goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and
if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe
it.


Just about any demagogue, from prehistory to today.

But I'm sure you have some ulterior motive that'll become apparent as
soon as you reveal the "right" answer to your question.

--
My liberal friends think I'm a conservative kook.
My conservative friends think I'm a liberal kook.
Why am I not happy that they have found common ground?

Tim Wescott, Communications, Control, Circuits & Software
http://www.wescottdesign.com

harry April 5th 12 05:51 PM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 5, 3:16*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.


Jesus?

Or Adolf Hitler.

harry April 5th 12 05:53 PM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 5, 3:16*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.


Ah. Got it. George Washington.

Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 5th 12 06:05 PM

Who is it?
 
That's only cause you're a Nazi.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.


I call Godwin.





HeyBub[_3_] April 5th 12 06:10 PM

Who is it?
 
Stormin Mormon wrote:
That's only cause you're a Nazi.


I expect a retraction and an apology.



Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 5th 12 06:23 PM

Who is it?
 
Sounds a bit like the last two or three Prez?

Christopher A. Young
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

The answer to Round Two's question doesn't really amount to much.

Folks have been attributing those characteristics to our President for
years. Who ever said it on 4/4 would simply be the lastest in a long
line of people making that comparison.



Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 5th 12 06:23 PM

Who is it?
 
I expect you to be disappointed.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
That's only cause you're a Nazi.


I expect a retraction and an apology.





anorton April 5th 12 06:37 PM

Who is it?
 

"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:16:47 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off; never admit
a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your
enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame;
concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that
goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and
if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe
it.


Just about any demagogue, from prehistory to today.

But I'm sure you have some ulterior motive that'll become apparent as
soon as you reveal the "right" answer to your question.


Exactly.

I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current US
right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox news, etc.)
is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good argument from an
intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are precisely what tells me
something evil is going on in the right wing.


Jim Wilkins[_2_] April 5th 12 09:22 PM

Who is it?
 

"anorton" wrote in message
...
I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current
US right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox
news, etc.) is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good
argument from an intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are
precisely what tells me something evil is going on in the right
wing.


The right does have to keep up with the left, after all.




Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 5th 12 10:09 PM

Who is it?
 
I'm the OP, and what the right wing says, makes a lot more sense to me than
what the left wing says. The right wing (such as the tea party) says follow
the Constitution, spend less, and keep the government within its means.
That's a lot different than what the left says. I don't see the tea party
using "all of these tactics".

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"anorton" wrote in message
m...

Exactly.

I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current US
right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox news, etc.)
is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good argument from an
intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are precisely what tells me
something evil is going on in the right wing.




Richard[_9_] April 5th 12 10:22 PM

Who is it?
 
On 4/5/2012 12:23 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I expect you to be disappointed.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
That's only cause you're a Nazi.


I expect a retraction and an apology.





I don't think he knows what the Godwin call means....



Richard[_9_] April 5th 12 10:23 PM

Who is it?
 
On 4/5/2012 3:22 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current
US right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox
news, etc.) is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good
argument from an intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are
precisely what tells me something evil is going on in the right
wing.


The right does have to keep up with the left, after all.





It really bothers me that both sides claim there is no room for
compromise...

I was brought up believing politics was the ART of compromise.


HeyBub[_3_] April 6th 12 12:44 AM

Who is it?
 
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I expect you to be disappointed.


Let me get this straight: You called me a nazi, even though I'm Jewish and
had a number of relatives - distant, but still relatives - slaughtered by
that group.

You call me a nazi even though I'm a dues-paying member of the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith.

You call me a nazi even though my father was wounded fighting them and an
uncle was killed at Normandy.

You call me a nazi even though you know little about me and with no reason
based on anything I've ever posted, let alone any response made to you
personally.

Now, will I really continue to be disappointed or will you re-think your
position and step back from a flagrant slur?



Red Green April 6th 12 01:07 AM

Who is it?
 
Richard wrote in
m:

On 4/5/2012 3:22 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current
US right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox
news, etc.) is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good
argument from an intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are
precisely what tells me something evil is going on in the right
wing.


The right does have to keep up with the left, after all.





It really bothers me that both sides claim there is no room for
compromise...

I was brought up believing politics was the ART of compromise.



Boy did they brainwash you early. It's about the money.
Personal gain of money. How you can waste $1000x of
someone elses money to get $x for yourself.





Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 6th 12 01:08 AM

Who is it?
 
You're a Nazi, too!

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Richard" wrote in message
m...

I don't think he knows what the Godwin call means....





Red Green April 6th 12 01:08 AM

Who is it?
 
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
:

His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.







Captain Kirk?

Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 6th 12 01:10 AM

Who is it? (what is compromise?)
 
Suppose the left wants to outlaw guns. The right wants to observe and
defende the Constitution. I think a compromise would be to repeal any laws
requiring government permit to carry concealed or openly, in public or
government places. A further compromise would be to repeal the GCA 1968, and
the NICS check requirement.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Richard" wrote in message
m...

It really bothers me that both sides claim there is no room for
compromise...

I was brought up believing politics was the ART of compromise.




Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 6th 12 01:18 AM

Who is it?
 
Lets see if I have this right. You called Godwin, even though I had not
called you a Nazi. And now you are offended? If you're going to tell me that
I invoked the Spirit of Hitler, it's very possible that I will go back and
do just exactly that.

If I walk into McDonalds, and ask for the number one special, I shouldn't be
offended if someone puts a quarter pounder in front of me.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I expect you to be disappointed.


Let me get this straight: You called me a nazi, even though I'm Jewish and
had a number of relatives - distant, but still relatives - slaughtered by
that group.

You call me a nazi even though I'm a dues-paying member of the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith.

You call me a nazi even though my father was wounded fighting them and an
uncle was killed at Normandy.

You call me a nazi even though you know little about me and with no reason
based on anything I've ever posted, let alone any response made to you
personally.

Now, will I really continue to be disappointed or will you re-think your
position and step back from a flagrant slur?





Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 6th 12 01:23 AM

Who is it?
 
That would not be logical.

More like PT Barnum than Capt. Kirk.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Red Green" wrote in message
...

Captain Kirk?



Richard[_9_] April 6th 12 01:52 AM

Who is it?
 
You are a fool.


On 4/5/2012 7:08 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
You're a Nazi, too!

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

wrote in message
m...

I don't think he knows what the Godwin call means....






Richard[_9_] April 6th 12 01:53 AM

Who is it?
 
On 4/5/2012 7:07 PM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
m:

On 4/5/2012 3:22 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current
US right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox
news, etc.) is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good
argument from an intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are
precisely what tells me something evil is going on in the right
wing.

The right does have to keep up with the left, after all.





It really bothers me that both sides claim there is no room for
compromise...

I was brought up believing politics was the ART of compromise.



Boy did they brainwash you early. It's about the money.
Personal gain of money. How you can waste $1000x of
someone elses money to get $x for yourself.






I have a sneaking suspicion I'm a LOT older than you...

Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 6th 12 02:00 AM

Who is it?
 
Is there a law for that?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Richard" wrote in message
...
You are a fool.


On 4/5/2012 7:08 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
You're a Nazi, too!

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

wrote in message
m...

I don't think he knows what the Godwin call means....








J Carter April 6th 12 06:14 AM

Who is it?
 
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
:

His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off;
never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may
be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;
never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and
blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe
a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently
enough people will sooner or later believe it.








Karl Rove

J Carter April 6th 12 06:21 AM

Who is it?
 
"HeyBub" wrote in
:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I expect you to be disappointed.


Let me get this straight: You called me a nazi, even though I'm
Jewish and had a number of relatives - distant, but still
relatives - slaughtered by that group.

You call me a nazi even though I'm a dues-paying member of the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith.

You call me a nazi even though my father was wounded fighting them
and an uncle was killed at Normandy.

You call me a nazi even though you know little about me and with
no reason based on anything I've ever posted, let alone any
response made to you personally.

Now, will I really continue to be disappointed or will you
re-think your position and step back from a flagrant slur?




He also top-posts which means he knows nothing of Usenet among other
things. If he doesn't comprehend, he yells nazi and comrade this
and socialist that. What a maroon..

harry April 6th 12 09:28 AM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 5, 6:37*pm, "anorton" wrote:
"Tim Wescott" wrote in message

...

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:16:47 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:


His primary rules we never allow the public to cool off; never admit
a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your
enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame;
concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that
goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and
if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe
it.


Just about any demagogue, from prehistory to today.


But I'm sure you have some ulterior motive that'll become apparent as
soon as you reveal the "right" answer to your question.


Exactly.

I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current US
right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox news, etc.)
is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good argument from an
intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are precisely what tells me
something evil is going on in the right wing.


You are becoming a fascist state.
You can be held without trial.
You can be shot down in the street & the police don't act.
All your communications can be spied on.
You illegally invade foriegn countries.
You practice ethnic cleansing.
You subvert foriegn governments.
Your governments steals your house and jobs.
You have concentration camps.

harry April 6th 12 09:32 AM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 6, 12:44*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I expect you to be disappointed.


Let me get this straight: You called me a nazi, even though I'm Jewish and
had a number of relatives - distant, but still relatives - slaughtered by
that group.

You call me a nazi even though I'm a dues-paying member of the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith.

You call me a nazi even though my father was wounded fighting them and an
uncle was killed at Normandy.

You call me a nazi even though you know little about me and with no reason
based on anything I've ever posted, let alone any response made to you
personally.

Now, will I really continue to be disappointed or will you re-think your
position and step back from a flagrant slur?


We know you are Jewish.
Nazism is a political attitude not a race.
Nowadays there are plenty of Nazi Jews around, eg the present
government of Israel who are Nazi to their very core.

He is right, you seem to be a Nazi by your previous rantings on here.

harry April 6th 12 09:35 AM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 6, 1:08*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
You're a Nazi, too!

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Richard" wrote in message

m...

I don't think he knows what the Godwin call means....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

harry April 6th 12 09:38 AM

Who is it?
 
On Apr 6, 1:53*am, Richard wrote:
On 4/5/2012 7:07 PM, Red Green wrote:





*wrote in
om:


On 4/5/2012 3:22 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
* wrote in message
...
I hope the OP recognizes (somehow I doubt he will) that the current
US right-wing propaganda machine (i.e. think tanks, talk radio, fox
news, etc.) is using all of these tactics. I appreciate a good
argument from an intelligent conservative, but the above tactics are
precisely what tells me something evil is going on in the right
wing.


The right does have to keep up with the left, after all.


It really bothers me that both sides claim there is no room for
compromise...


I was brought up believing politics was the ART of compromise.


* * * * * *Boy did they brainwash you early. It's about the money.
* * * * * *Personal gain of money. How you can waste $1000x of
* * * * * *someone elses money to get $x for yourself.


I have a sneaking suspicion I'm a LOT older than you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's just more time to get brainwashed and less chance of reversing
the process.

Moe Gasser April 6th 12 11:04 AM

Who is it?
 
On 4/6/2012 4:28 AM, harry wrote:


You are becoming a fascist state.
You can be held without trial.
You can be shot down in the street& the police don't act.
All your communications can be spied on.
You illegally invade foriegn countries.
You practice ethnic cleansing.
You subvert foriegn governments.
Your governments steals your house and jobs.
You have concentration camps.


The US is getting ready to have another tea party. I don't know when
exactly but it's "brewing".

HeyBub[_3_] April 6th 12 12:34 PM

Who is it?
 
harry wrote:
On Apr 6, 12:44 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I expect you to be disappointed.


Let me get this straight: You called me a nazi, even though I'm
Jewish and had a number of relatives - distant, but still relatives
- slaughtered by that group.

You call me a nazi even though I'm a dues-paying member of the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith.

You call me a nazi even though my father was wounded fighting them
and an uncle was killed at Normandy.

You call me a nazi even though you know little about me and with no
reason based on anything I've ever posted, let alone any response
made to you personally.

Now, will I really continue to be disappointed or will you re-think
your position and step back from a flagrant slur?


We know you are Jewish.
Nazism is a political attitude not a race.
Nowadays there are plenty of Nazi Jews around, eg the present
government of Israel who are Nazi to their very core.

He is right, you seem to be a Nazi by your previous rantings on here.


October 17th is getting closer and closer asshole.



HeyBub[_3_] April 6th 12 12:41 PM

Who is it?
 
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Lets see if I have this right. You called Godwin, even though I had
not called you a Nazi. And now you are offended? If you're going to
tell me that I invoked the Spirit of Hitler, it's very possible that
I will go back and do just exactly that.

If I walk into McDonalds, and ask for the number one special, I
shouldn't be offended if someone puts a quarter pounder in front of
me.


Pay attention, ignoramus: "Calling Godwin" is meant to put an end to a
thread, not asserting that anyone is a nazi. From Wikipedia:

"... there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion
forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and
whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in
progress."

There is NO intimation that the object of "Godwin's Law" is anything other
than an attempt to bring German National Socialism into a discussion.

Now that your ignorance has been fixed, in the interest of comity, I'll give
you one more opportunity to adjust your misplaced characterization.







Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 6th 12 01:01 PM

Who is it?
 
You declared that I'd mentioned the Nazis. I had not, and so I obliged your
request. You respond apparently by offense, and name calling.

I expect you'll remain disappointed.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Lets see if I have this right. You called Godwin, even though I had
not called you a Nazi. And now you are offended? If you're going to
tell me that I invoked the Spirit of Hitler, it's very possible that
I will go back and do just exactly that.

If I walk into McDonalds, and ask for the number one special, I
shouldn't be offended if someone puts a quarter pounder in front of
me.


Pay attention, ignoramus: "Calling Godwin" is meant to put an end to a
thread, not asserting that anyone is a nazi. From Wikipedia:

"... there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion
forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and
whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in
progress."

There is NO intimation that the object of "Godwin's Law" is anything other
than an attempt to bring German National Socialism into a discussion.

Now that your ignorance has been fixed, in the interest of comity, I'll give
you one more opportunity to adjust your misplaced characterization.





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