"Elliott P" wrote in message
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Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
*one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
restore the property, inside and out.

Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.

The property is in Towson, Maryland.

Thank you in advance.

If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS

On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:

If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS


Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.

However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.

All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:



If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS

Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.

However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.

All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

David and others,

I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39

I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups
of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there.
The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these
are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large
tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage.

I'll take more when time and daylight allows.

On Feb 9, 9:03*am, Elliott P wrote:
On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:





On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:

If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS

Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.

However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.

All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

David and others,

I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery hehttp://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39

I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups
of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there.
The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these
are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large
tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage.

I'll take more when time and daylight allows.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

ahh you admit a fox in the area. thus you have a wildlife preserve.
and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met

why not just leave this island of whatever alone?

what ae you planning on doing with it? planting grass?

thats just more grass to cut

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P
wrote:

On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:



If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS

Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.

However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.

All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

David and others,

I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39

I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups
of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there.
The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these
are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large
tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage.

I'll take more when time and daylight allows.

Your property looks completely overgrown with all kinds of vegetation.
To get rid of that bamboo you are going to have to till deep and rake
out the roots. I suggest you obtain a dozer, bamboo stumps will
pierce tractor tires. You have a lot of work to do over the next few
years... you are not going to get rid of that bamboo in one season,
probably take five years of constant attention. Consider yourself
lucky it's not on a slope. After cutting it to the ground the first
thing I'd do is hire someone with a backhoe to dig a trench around the
entire perimeter, deep and wide. Once the bamboo is eradicated I
suggest seriously considering installing a 2 acre pond. Anyone who
plants bamboo, any kind, is an imbecile.
http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/ou...rid-of-bamboo/
http://www.completebamboo.com/bamboo_removal.html

On Feb 9, 9:45*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P





wrote:
On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:

If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS

Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.

However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.

All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

David and others,

I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39

I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups
of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there.
The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these
are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large
tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage.

I'll take more when time and daylight allows.

Your property looks completely overgrown with all kinds of vegetation.
To get rid of that bamboo you are going to have to till deep and rake
out the roots. *I suggest you obtain a dozer, bamboo stumps will
pierce tractor tires. *You have a lot of work to do over the next few
years... you are not going to get rid of that bamboo in one season,
probably take five years of constant attention. *Consider yourself
lucky it's not on a slope. *After cutting it to the ground the first
thing I'd do is hire someone with a backhoe to dig a trench around the
entire perimeter, deep and wide. *Once the bamboo is eradicated I
suggest seriously considering installing a 2 acre pond. *Anyone who
plants bamboo, any kind, is an imbecile. *http://www.howtogetridofstuff..com/o..._removal.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

i guess you missed where the OP said theres utility lines and a septic
tank in the bamboo area.

Whats wrong with just leaving it grow?

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:21:03 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

On Feb 9, 9:45*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P





wrote:
On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:

If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS

Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.

However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.

All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

David and others,

I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39

I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups
of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there.
The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these
are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large
tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage.

I'll take more when time and daylight allows.

Your property looks completely overgrown with all kinds of vegetation.
To get rid of that bamboo you are going to have to till deep and rake
out the roots. *I suggest you obtain a dozer, bamboo stumps will
pierce tractor tires. *You have a lot of work to do over the next few
years... you are not going to get rid of that bamboo in one season,
probably take five years of constant attention. *Consider yourself
lucky it's not on a slope. *After cutting it to the ground the first
thing I'd do is hire someone with a backhoe to dig a trench around the
entire perimeter, deep and wide. *Once the bamboo is eradicated I
suggest seriously considering installing a 2 acre pond. *Anyone who
plants bamboo, any kind, is an imbecile. *http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/ou..._removal.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

i guess you missed where the OP said theres utility lines and a septic
tank in the bamboo area.

I guess you missed where the OP said there MIGHT BE utility lines and
a septic in the bamboo area.

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P wrote:
I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery he
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39

No, you've got a real bamboo there; my guess from the photos is a Phyllostachys.
Control methods he http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/node/324
http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/pubs...ic/bamboos.htm
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74142.html

Watch carefully for spray drift. Desirable plants that get hit with
Roundup/Rodeo can be rescued by immediate treatment with muddy water to bind
glyphosate.

My first inclination, seeing those photos, would be to consider brush
hogging the area and then hand application of glyphosate to the new sprouts.
I'm pretty sure that will work, but will require constant vigilance and respray
for a couple of years.

And yes, I will consider using carefully chosen chemicals, preferably applied
in the most directed manner possible, for control of large weed infestations.

Kay

On Feb 9, 9:22*am, bob haller wrote:
On Feb 9, 9:03*am, Elliott P wrote:









On Feb 8, 6:14*pm, "David E. Ross" wrote:

On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:

If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!

JAS

Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. *This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. *Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. *For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.

However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. *If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.

All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. *This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. *This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. *If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: *California Mediterranean, see
http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

David and others,

I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery hehttp://www.dropbox.com/gallery/27454...amboo?h=d5ab39

I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups
of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there.
The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these
are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large
tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage.

I'll take more when time and daylight allows.

ahh you admit a fox in the area. thus you have a wildlife preserve.
and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met

eye roll number 2 in this thread

On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote:
....

and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met

eye roll number 2 in this thread

Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not.

Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out...

--

On Feb 10, 9:08*am, dpb wrote:
On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote:
...

and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met

eye roll number 2 in this thread

Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. *

Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out...

--

well my post was a joke, but one never knows, and using herbicides
likely make it worse.

i have some new K&T info but thats for another day........

On Feb 10, 12:38*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:08*am, dpb wrote:

On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote:
...

and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met

eye roll number 2 in this thread

Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. *

Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out...

--

well my post was a joke

Then, nicely done!