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On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote:
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On Jan 29, 2:30*pm, Roy wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. |
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harry wrote: On Jan 29, 2:30 pm, wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. Hi, Ditto. He has something right between his ears. |
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harry wrote:
On Jan 29, 2:30 pm, Roy wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. When the UK abrogated its role as world policeman after WWII, the US took over the job. If not the US, then who? China? Russia? Somalia? In 1960, South Korea had the same per-capita income as Uganda. Today, it ranks 4th. Most believe the 50,000 troops we have in the contry have deterred the North from further escapades. In Europe, there has been a war, historically, about every fifteen minutes. With 120,000 US troops in place, minor irritations haven't escalated into general war in almost seven decades (the longest Europe has been at peace since before the invention of moveable type (in China) ). And why should the U.S. BE the world's policeman? "Because we're here, lad. There's no one else. Just us. Now face the front and mark your target when he comes. There's a good lad." |
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harry wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug Yes. Far too many Americans are either disengenuous about not knowing their own recent history, or are totally ignorant (or un-critical) of the consequences of their gov'ts foreign policy and military activities. |
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), Roy wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! |
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JimT wrote:
It's well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae I have been to visit the site. Any recommendations on places to go in that area? We're probably going to Florence next but it's not certain. Been talking about Germany too. Uh, Thermopylae is in far northeastern Greece. |
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JimT wrote: We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Not remotely far enough back (g). A lot of this hassles in the Middle East started from when the Europeans first stuck their nose in the area. Besides, this is hardly our policy, since the founding of Israel was a UN thingy (largely, again, at the behest of the Europeans who did not want a Jewish nation in their neck of the woods). I thought all things UN were holy (grin). The Palestinians are largely the result of the Locals anyway. They could have long ago put a Palestinian nation to rest if they had done anything other than keep them in camps. But then they couldn't stir them up against the Israelis and might have actually to make changes in their own countries without the Jews to blame. I note that every inch of the disputed territories was taken by the Israelis only after an overt act of war. The Great and Noble Arab Warrior gets his ass handed to him in a war and cries about it. I also note that every inch of countryside taken from the countries that have signed peace treaties has been given back LONG ago. How about his giving excuses for 911, implying that it would never have happened if we just stuck our heads in the sand and ignored what's going on in the rest of the world? Again, failed foreign policy. How about when he wants to just withdraw all our troops from South Korea, regardless of how that would be interpreted by the north and the possible horrific consequences? Unsettling. I can't see abandoning SK. Great cars and great movies. How about when he wants to eliminate the FED, our central bank, a function which every country of any consequence on the face of the earth has? I'll admit. I have almost no background in macro economics. 1 semester doesn't make me qualified to comment. :) I don't know of any notable economist suggesting we go back to the gold standard. I know if we had any gold it would be long gone by now to pay our debts. Should I go on?snip Thanks. If you do know of anymore please post. -- People thought cybersex was a safe alternative, until patients started presenting with sexually acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz |
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Tony Hwang wrote: harry wrote: On Jan 29, 2:30 pm, wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. Hi, Ditto. He has something right between his ears. Hmm, American foreign policy is like trying to teach how to use fork instead of fingers or chop sticks. |
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HeyBub wrote: harry wrote: On Jan 29, 2:30 pm, wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. When the UK abrogated its role as world policeman after WWII, the US took over the job. If not the US, then who? China? Russia? Somalia? In 1960, South Korea had the same per-capita income as Uganda. Today, it ranks 4th. Most believe the 50,000 troops we have in the contry have deterred the North from further escapades. In Europe, there has been a war, historically, about every fifteen minutes. With 120,000 US troops in place, minor irritations haven't escalated into general war in almost seven decades (the longest Europe has been at peace since before the invention of moveable type (in China) ). And why should the U.S. BE the world's policeman? "Because we're here, lad. There's no one else. Just us. Now face the front and mark your target when he comes. There's a good lad." If you want to talk anout it, you better know more anout the historical truth first. For one, Koreans did not want to divide their country after the WWII. You, USA and USSR forced it upon them. Did you know that Roosevelt wanted th share the secret of Nuke bomb with Russians? Churchill objected to it. Why did you choke off gasoline supply for Gen. Patton's tanks when he was advancing towards Russian border? Do you know who really killed him? |
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Tony Hwang wrote:
HeyBub wrote: harry wrote: On Jan 29, 2:30 pm, wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. When the UK abrogated its role as world policeman after WWII, the US took over the job. If not the US, then who? China? Russia? Somalia? In 1960, South Korea had the same per-capita income as Uganda. Today, it ranks 4th. Most believe the 50,000 troops we have in the contry have deterred the North from further escapades. In Europe, there has been a war, historically, about every fifteen minutes. With 120,000 US troops in place, minor irritations haven't escalated into general war in almost seven decades (the longest Europe has been at peace since before the invention of moveable type (in China) ). And why should the U.S. BE the world's policeman? "Because we're here, lad. There's no one else. Just us. Now face the front and mark your target when he comes. There's a good lad." If you want to talk anout it, you better know more anout the historical truth first. For one, Koreans did not want to divide their country after the WWII. You, USA and USSR forced it upon them. Did you know that Roosevelt wanted th share the secret of Nuke bomb with Russians? Churchill objected to it. Why did you choke off gasoline supply for Gen. Patton's tanks when he was advancing towards Russian border? Do you know who really killed him? Historical truth is irrelevant to the subject at hand. You raise some interesting issues about which I knew nothing. Similarily, I'm in the dark about dark matter, whether Madonna still shaves her private area, the recipe for Coca-Cola, where the American National Standard Orgasm is kept, where a fire goes when it goes out, how high is up, and other pressing issues. Regrettably, my ignorance on these matters has nothing to do with whether the U.S. is, or should be, the world's policeman. |
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JimT wrote:
We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Let's look at Iran's neighbors: * Iraq. A (sort of) functioning democracy, * Turkey, another democracy, * Turkmenistan, * Afghanistan, and * Pakistan. The only member of the above list that has the capability of threatening Iran is Pakistan. Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for some time now and hasn't used them or threatened Iran in any way. |
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:26:21 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote: American foreign policy is like trying to teach how to use fork instead of fingers or chop sticks. Some things just don't need changing, do they.... |
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On 1/29/2012 5:14 PM, HeyBub wrote:
JimT wrote: We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Let's look at Iran's neighbors: * Iraq. A (sort of) functioning democracy, * Turkey, another democracy, * Turkmenistan, * Afghanistan, and * Pakistan. The only member of the above list that has the capability of threatening Iran is Pakistan. Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for some time now and hasn't used them or threatened Iran in any way. I wonder how many times the territory we call Iran has been invaded? Just about every world conqueror since Alexander the Great has marched through. Then if the neighbors don't make you nervious, what about the situation in the middle east in general? What about the US installing the Shah? What about the US arming Saddam? I'd say they have plenty to be at concerned about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29 We diddle around the world for the almighty buck and cry when it fails. If you're going to diddle, you're going to get blowback. "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."~ Issac Newton. |
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... On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), Roy wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! I second the motion. It annoys me when aliens try to get involved in our domestic business. |
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On 1/29/2012 7:18 PM, Dick Keats wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! I second the motion. It annoys me when aliens try to get involved in our domestic business. Oh brother! The U.S. has it's nose up everybody's ass and this guy is upset about someone with an opinion. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Jan 29, 2:30 pm, Roy wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. But since you are not, and an idiot to boot, your opinion is moot. |
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"Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: harry wrote: On Jan 29, 2:30 pm, wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. My thoughts exactly. When the UK abrogated its role as world policeman after WWII, the US took over the job. If not the US, then who? China? Russia? Somalia? In 1960, South Korea had the same per-capita income as Uganda. Today, it ranks 4th. Most believe the 50,000 troops we have in the contry have deterred the North from further escapades. In Europe, there has been a war, historically, about every fifteen minutes. With 120,000 US troops in place, minor irritations haven't escalated into general war in almost seven decades (the longest Europe has been at peace since before the invention of moveable type (in China) ). And why should the U.S. BE the world's policeman? "Because we're here, lad. There's no one else. Just us. Now face the front and mark your target when he comes. There's a good lad." If you want to talk anout it, you better know more anout the historical truth first. For one, Koreans did not want to divide their country after the WWII. You, USA and USSR forced it upon them. Did you know that Roosevelt wanted th share the secret of Nuke bomb with Russians? Churchill objected to it. Why did you choke off gasoline supply for Gen. Patton's tanks when he was advancing towards Russian border? Do you know who really killed him? So you suggest that Korea should have been left to Russian or Chinese Control ?? We can see how letting North Korea become another Soviet Heaven has worked out for the people of North Korea Rest of stupidities ignored |
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:14:48 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: JimT wrote: We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Let's look at Iran's neighbors: * Iraq. A (sort of) functioning democracy, * Turkey, another democracy, * Turkmenistan, * Afghanistan, and * Pakistan. The only member of the above list that has the capability of threatening Iran is Pakistan. Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for some time now and hasn't used them or threatened Iran in any way. Pakistan is saving-up for India? |
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:18:26 -0600, "Dick Keats"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), Roy wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! I second the motion. It annoys me when aliens try to get involved in our domestic business. Third the motion. Count 'em up and they are most likely progressive socialist, Liberals, spend my money and take my cows away group of people. |
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On 1/29/2012 8:35 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:18:26 -0600, "Dick Keats" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! I second the motion. It annoys me when aliens try to get involved in our domestic business. Third the motion. Count 'em up and they are most likely progressive socialist, Liberals, spend my money and take my cows away group of people. The only reason all of you want foreigners out of our politics is because you have a bunch a buffoons running for POTUS and you're embarrassed. As well you should be. |
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I'd have to guess, that plenty of people in other nations don't appreciate
the USA meddling in their affairs. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! I second the motion. It annoys me when aliens try to get involved in our domestic business. |
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
I note that every inch of the disputed territories was taken by the Israelis only after an overt act of war. The Great and Noble Arab Warrior gets his ass handed to him in a war and cries about it. I also note that every inch of countryside taken from the countries that have signed peace treaties has been given back LONG ago. Except for Gaza. Israel TRIED to give Gaza to Egypt. Egypt said "We don't want it. It's full of Palestinians." After the '48 and '67 wars, a lot of Palestinians fled to Jordan. Jordan kicked them out of the country, hence the name "Black September" to commemorate the expulsion. Why? "Because they are (spit) Palestinians." The Palestinians moved to Lebanon, the Riveria of the Middle East and promptly ****ed up the whole country. They were finally driven out (but Lebanon remains ****ed up) and decamped to Morocco and Cyprus. Israel finally said enough and left the "Occupied areas" in the West Bank. When the Israelis left, the Palestinians said good-bye to universal sufferage, compulsory schooling for all children, even girls, a higher standard of living and life expectancy of any Arab group, modern health care and sanitation, and more. But they have a government, such as it is, that they can call their own, so I guess it averages out. |
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JimT wrote:
On 1/29/2012 4:04 PM, HeyBub wrote: JimT wrote: It's well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae I have been to visit the site. Any recommendations on places to go in that area? We're probably going to Florence next but it's not certain. Been talking about Germany too. Uh, Thermopylae is in far northeastern Greece. um ....Thanks I know how to use google maps though. Did you think I thought it was in Germany too. :) I didn't know where you thought it was, that's why I volunteered it might not be convenient to your proposed itinerary. You can watch the move "300" and get all you need to know. The movie is interesting for two reasons: 1) It is historically VERY accurate, down to the speeches given to the warriors and the Spartan Senate, and 2) It is a remarkable adaptation of a comic book to the screen. Much better than Superman, Batman, Cinderella, or any other the others. |
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On Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:31:28 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), Roy wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! Yes, you frickin' teabaggers would love to suppress ALL dissent...typical response from YOU. == |
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On 1/29/2012 7:18 PM, Dick Keats wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! I second the motion. It annoys me when aliens try to get involved in our domestic business. Heck, I might go all al-Qaeda on them for messing with my country. ^_^ TDD |
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On 1/29/2012 11:27 PM, Roy wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:31:28 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! Yes, you frickin' teabaggers would love to suppress ALL dissent...typical response from YOU. == Why would those who practice the sexual perversion of tea-bagging want to suppress anyone? I would think they would be quite liberal in their lifestyle. ^_^ TDD |
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On Jan 30, 1:18*am, "Dick Keats" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 06:30:11 -0800 (PST), Roy wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:33:55 AM UTC-7, harry wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4a__tcfFug If I was an American I would definitely support Ron Paul. Since you aren't, STFU! I second the motion. It annoys me when aliens try to get involved in our domestic business. Well you should leave the aliens alone. Stay at home. Make the world a better place. |
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On Jan 30, 2:48*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: I'd have to guess, that plenty of people in other nations don't appreciate the USA meddling in their affairs. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . Well, if you poke a snake with a stick, it will bite you. |
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JimT wrote:
On 1/29/2012 5:14 PM, HeyBub wrote: JimT wrote: We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Let's look at Iran's neighbors: * Iraq. A (sort of) functioning democracy, * Turkey, another democracy, * Turkmenistan, * Afghanistan, and * Pakistan. The only member of the above list that has the capability of threatening Iran is Pakistan. Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for some time now and hasn't used them or threatened Iran in any way. I wonder how many times the territory we call Iran has been invaded? Just about every world conqueror since Alexander the Great has marched through. Then if the neighbors don't make you nervious, what about the situation in the middle east in general? What about the US installing the Shah? What about the US arming Saddam? I'd say they have plenty to be at concerned about. Admittedly, it's a violent region. Iran was once the aggressor, ruling at one time the largest empire in the world - until someone stuood up to them. I'm reminded of --- --- begin quote And so my king died, and my brothers died, barely a year ago. Long I pondered my king's cryptic talk of victory. Time has proven him wise, for from free Greek to free Greek, the word was spread that bold Leonidas and his three hundred, so far from home, laid down their lives. Not just for Sparta, but for all Greece and the promise this country holds. Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called Plataea, Xerxes's hordes face obliteration! Just there the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers... knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of three hundred. Yet they stare now across the plain at TEN THOUSAND Spartans commanding thirty thousand free Greeks! HA-OOH! The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one, good odds for any Greek. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks, men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! TO VICTORY! |
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Jim T wrote:
You can watch the move "300" and get all you need to know. The movie is interesting for two reasons: 1) It is historically VERY accurate, down to the speeches given to the warriors and the Spartan Senate, and 2) It is a remarkable adaptation of a comic book to the screen. Much better than Superman, Batman, Cinderella, or any other the others. They are quite a distance from each other. Yep, but unlike the others, this movie has universal appeal; the guys like it for the battle scenes and the female viewers get moist watching the six-pack abs. |
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On 1/30/2012 5:36 AM, HeyBub wrote:
JimT wrote: On 1/29/2012 5:14 PM, HeyBub wrote: JimT wrote: We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Let's look at Iran's neighbors: * Iraq. A (sort of) functioning democracy, * Turkey, another democracy, * Turkmenistan, * Afghanistan, and * Pakistan. The only member of the above list that has the capability of threatening Iran is Pakistan. Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for some time now and hasn't used them or threatened Iran in any way. I wonder how many times the territory we call Iran has been invaded? Just about every world conqueror since Alexander the Great has marched through. Then if the neighbors don't make you nervious, what about the situation in the middle east in general? What about the US installing the Shah? What about the US arming Saddam? I'd say they have plenty to be at concerned about. Admittedly, it's a violent region. Iran was once the aggressor, ruling at one time the largest empire in the world - until someone stuood up to them. I'm reminded of --- --- begin quote And so my king died, and my brothers died, barely a year ago. Long I pondered my king's cryptic talk of victory. Time has proven him wise, for from free Greek to free Greek, the word was spread that bold Leonidas and his three hundred, so far from home, laid down their lives. Not just for Sparta, but for all Greece and the promise this country holds. Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called Plataea, Xerxes's hordes face obliteration! Just there the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers... knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of three hundred. Yet they stare now across the plain at TEN THOUSAND Spartans commanding thirty thousand free Greeks! HA-OOH! The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one, good odds for any Greek. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks, men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! TO VICTORY! Great story. I wonder how much is based on fact? :) |
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JimT wrote: But tobacco, alcohol and caffeine are okay. We have double standards in our drug laws I'll never understand. I would be hard pressed to put caffeine with the other two or controlled substances in general. WIth the possible exception of a few people whose heart can't stand the extra bump I don't think it kills many people. Don't know of the last person I saw who was homeless or had sold all his possessions to get another cup of coffee (Okay, MAYBE at a Starbucks). Maybe caffeine has broken up a couple families as one of them got surly or antsy with too many No-Doze. But overall, it doesn't seem to have the impact. The other two were more or less grandfathered being around. -- People thought cybersex was a safe alternative, until patients started presenting with sexually acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz |
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On 1/30/2012 12:56 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In astnet, wrote: But tobacco, alcohol and caffeine are okay. We have double standards in our drug laws I'll never understand. I would be hard pressed to put caffeine with the other two or controlled substances in general. WIth the possible exception of a few people whose heart can't stand the extra bump I don't think it kills many people. Don't know of the last person I saw who was homeless or had sold all his possessions to get another cup of coffee (Okay, MAYBE at a Starbucks). Maybe caffeine has broken up a couple families as one of them got surly or antsy with too many No-Doze. But overall, it doesn't seem to have the impact. The other two were more or less grandfathered being around. Fair enough. Probably the calories in a caffe latte are more dangerous than the caffeine. :) |
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On Jan 30, 6:40*pm, JimT wrote:
On 1/30/2012 5:36 AM, HeyBub wrote: JimT wrote: On 1/29/2012 5:14 PM, HeyBub wrote: JimT wrote: We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Let's look at Iran's neighbors: * Iraq. A (sort of) functioning democracy, * Turkey, another democracy, * Turkmenistan, * Afghanistan, and * Pakistan. The only member of the above list that has the capability of threatening Iran is Pakistan. Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for some time now and hasn't used them or threatened Iran in any way. I wonder how many times the territory we call Iran has been invaded? Just about every world conqueror since Alexander the Great has marched through. Then if the neighbors don't make you nervious, what about the situation in the middle east in general? What about the US installing the Shah? What about the US arming Saddam? I'd say they have plenty to be at concerned about. Admittedly, it's a violent region. Iran was once the aggressor, ruling at one time the largest empire in the world - until someone stuood up to them. I'm reminded of --- --- begin quote And so my king died, and my brothers died, barely a year ago. Long I pondered my king's cryptic talk of victory. Time has proven him wise, for from free Greek to free Greek, the word was spread that bold Leonidas and his three hundred, so far from home, laid down their lives. Not just for Sparta, but for all Greece and the promise this country holds. Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called Plataea, Xerxes's hordes face obliteration! Just there the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers... knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of three hundred. Yet they stare now across the plain at TEN THOUSAND Spartans commanding thirty thousand free Greeks! HA-OOH! The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one, good odds for any Greek. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks, men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! TO VICTORY! Great story. I wonder how much is based on fact? :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae I have been to visit the site. |
OT US foriegn policy, Ron Paul and terrorism.
On 1/30/2012 1:30 PM, harry wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:40 pm, wrote: On 1/30/2012 5:36 AM, HeyBub wrote: JimT wrote: On 1/29/2012 5:14 PM, HeyBub wrote: JimT wrote: We can't let Iran have nuclear weapons because of our failed foreign policy which goes all the way back to the foundation of Israel. Are you saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself? Look at their neighbors. Wouldn't you want one? Let's look at Iran's neighbors: * Iraq. A (sort of) functioning democracy, * Turkey, another democracy, * Turkmenistan, * Afghanistan, and * Pakistan. The only member of the above list that has the capability of threatening Iran is Pakistan. Pakistan has had nuclear weapons for some time now and hasn't used them or threatened Iran in any way. I wonder how many times the territory we call Iran has been invaded? Just about every world conqueror since Alexander the Great has marched through. Then if the neighbors don't make you nervious, what about the situation in the middle east in general? What about the US installing the Shah? What about the US arming Saddam? I'd say they have plenty to be at concerned about. Admittedly, it's a violent region. Iran was once the aggressor, ruling at one time the largest empire in the world - until someone stuood up to them. I'm reminded of --- --- begin quote And so my king died, and my brothers died, barely a year ago. Long I pondered my king's cryptic talk of victory. Time has proven him wise, for from free Greek to free Greek, the word was spread that bold Leonidas and his three hundred, so far from home, laid down their lives. Not just for Sparta, but for all Greece and the promise this country holds. Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called Plataea, Xerxes's hordes face obliteration! Just there the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers... knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of three hundred. Yet they stare now across the plain at TEN THOUSAND Spartans commanding thirty thousand free Greeks! HA-OOH! The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one, good odds for any Greek. This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine. Give thanks, men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! TO VICTORY! Great story. I wonder how much is based on fact? :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae I have been to visit the site. Any recommendations on places to go in that area? We're probably going to Florence next but it's not certain. Been talking about Germany too. |
OT US foriegn policy, Ron Paul and terrorism.
On 1/29/2012 4:04 PM, HeyBub wrote:
JimT wrote: It's well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae I have been to visit the site. Any recommendations on places to go in that area? We're probably going to Florence next but it's not certain. Been talking about Germany too. Uh, Thermopylae is in far northeastern Greece. um ....Thanks I know how to use google maps though. Did you think I thought it was in Germany too. :) |
OT US foriegn policy, Ron Paul and terrorism.
On Jan 29, 5:04*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
JimT wrote: It's well documented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae I have been to visit the site. *Any recommendations on places to go in that area? We're probably going to Florence next but it's not certain. Been talking about Germany too. Uh, Thermopylae is in far northeastern Greece. As far as Italy goes, Florence didn'd do a whole lot for me. Now the Amalfi Coast, that's spectacular. Was in Ravello a couple years ago and the whole area there is beautiful. If you want to spend a lot of bucks on a once in a lifetime hotel experience on the French Riviera, near Monaco, let me know. The suite I had was like out of a James Bond movie, overlooking the Mediteranean, motorized blinds, sweeping 180deg water views.... |
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