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Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
May rise dramatically as 40% of the region's refining capacity closes.
"While the largest loss by volume will be gasoline supplies, idling the Marcus Hook refinery early in the current heating season eliminates a major regional source of heating oil supplies in a market with relatively low stock levels, although a mild start to the winter has eased demand. By the winter of 2012/13, more regionally-sourced ULSD and heating oil supplies will be lost if Sunoco’s Philadelphia refinery is also shut down." Government report (PDF) http://www.eia.gov/analysis/studies/...g_Activity.pdf News story: http://fuelfix.com/blog/2011/12/28/f...ply-northeast/ Story and report opine that some of the shortage, depending on transport capacity, will have to come from Gulf Coast refineries. Of course if one moved to Texas, there wouldn't be much of a transport problem... |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
On Dec 29, 10:08*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
May rise dramatically as 40% of the region's refining capacity closes. "While the largest loss by volume will be gasoline supplies, idling the Marcus Hook refinery early in the current heating season eliminates a major regional source of heating oil supplies in a market with relatively low stock levels, although a mild start to the winter has eased demand. *By the winter of 2012/13, more regionally-sourced ULSD and heating oil supplies will be lost if Sunoco’s Philadelphia refinery is also shut down." Government report (PDF)http://www.eia.gov/analysis/studies/...pdf/Reduction_... News story:http://fuelfix.com/blog/2011/12/28/f...-fuel-needed-t... Story and report opine that some of the shortage, depending on transport capacity, will have to come from Gulf Coast refineries. Of course if one moved to Texas, there wouldn't be much of a transport problem... Refineries closing here because they are old, inefficient and over regulated. The ports are still there and finished petroleum products can still be shipped there. I was told by friend in epa that they had been importing most of their stuff as finished products in recent years anyway. |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
On Dec 29, 10:45*am, Frank wrote:
On Dec 29, 10:08*am, "HeyBub" wrote: May rise dramatically as 40% of the region's refining capacity closes. "While the largest loss by volume will be gasoline supplies, idling the Marcus Hook refinery early in the current heating season eliminates a major regional source of heating oil supplies in a market with relatively low stock levels, although a mild start to the winter has eased demand. *By the winter of 2012/13, more regionally-sourced ULSD and heating oil supplies will be lost if Sunoco’s Philadelphia refinery is also shut down." Government report (PDF)http://www.eia.gov/analysis/studies/...pdf/Reduction_... News story:http://fuelfix.com/blog/2011/12/28/f...-fuel-needed-t... Story and report opine that some of the shortage, depending on transport capacity, will have to come from Gulf Coast refineries. Of course if one moved to Texas, there wouldn't be much of a transport problem... Refineries closing here because they are old, inefficient and over regulated. The ports are still there and finished petroleum products can still be shipped there. I was told by friend in epa that they had been importing most of their stuff as finished products in recent years anyway.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually there was a news story last week about how the USA is currently a net exporter of diesel. Worldwide demand is strong and with the sluggish economy here, that's where its' going. |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
Of course if one moved to Texas, there wouldn't be much of a transport problem... hush your mouth, we don't need anymore yanks here, there is enough already. Besides, Tejas is a terrible place to live, no jobs, the economy sucks and by golly its just to damn hoteg |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
ChairMan wrote:
Of course if one moved to Texas, there wouldn't be much of a transport problem... hush your mouth, we don't need anymore yanks here, there is enough already. Besides, Tejas is a terrible place to live, no jobs, the economy sucks and by golly its just to damn hoteg Your points are not exactly right: * 20% of the jobs created in the last five years were in Texas * The economy is not much different from the rest of the nation * We didn't build the world's first air-conditioned sports stadium to be ostentatious (well, maybe a little bit); air conditioning is required. To quote a New Yorker, however, Fran Liebowitz said "The outdoors is something through which I pass between my apartment and my car." That attitude is mostly true in south Texas. But sometimes Dallas - and other less desirable parts of the state - shut down due to snow. And as far as "Yanks being here," if someone from yankeeland (spit) is willing to pull up stakes based on his willingness to take a risk and has confidence in his own abilities, wants a better life for himself and his family, well, those are the kinds of folks Texas, and for that matter, the nation, needs and wants. |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:11:08 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: ChairMan wrote: Of course if one moved to Texas, there wouldn't be much of a transport problem... hush your mouth, we don't need anymore yanks here, there is enough already. Besides, Tejas is a terrible place to live, no jobs, the economy sucks and by golly its just to damn hoteg Your points are not exactly right: * 20% of the jobs created in the last five years were in Texas * The economy is not much different from the rest of the nation * We didn't build the world's first air-conditioned sports stadium to be ostentatious (well, maybe a little bit); air conditioning is required. To quote a New Yorker, however, Fran Liebowitz said "The outdoors is something through which I pass between my apartment and my car." That attitude is mostly true in south Texas. But sometimes Dallas - and other less desirable parts of the state - shut down due to snow. And as far as "Yanks being here," if someone from yankeeland (spit) is willing to pull up stakes based on his willingness to take a risk and has confidence in his own abilities, wants a better life for himself and his family, well, those are the kinds of folks Texas, and for that matter, the nation, needs and wants. .... and the gals dab gun oil behind their ears, instead of perfume |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
In article ,
HeyBub wrote: ...snipped... And as far as "Yanks being here," if someone from yankeeland (spit) is willing to pull up stakes based on his willingness to take a risk and has confidence in his own abilities, wants a better life for himself and his family, well, those are the kinds of folks Texas, and for that matter, the nation, needs and wants. And how about if that kind of person comes from, say, Mexico? -- The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. (Winston Churchill) Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
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Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
On Dec 29, 1:33*pm, "ChairMan" nospam@nospam wrote:
Of course if one moved to Texas, there wouldn't be much of a transport Besides, Tejas is a terrible place to live, no jobs, the economy sucks and by golly its just to damn hoteg _____ But its the religious and gun capital of the world! How dare you?! ;) |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
Larry W wrote:
In article , HeyBub wrote: ...snipped... And as far as "Yanks being here," if someone from yankeeland (spit) is willing to pull up stakes based on his willingness to take a risk and has confidence in his own abilities, wants a better life for himself and his family, well, those are the kinds of folks Texas, and for that matter, the nation, needs and wants. And how about if that kind of person comes from, say, Mexico? In my view, they'd be welcome. |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
Further making the USA dependant on the rest of the world. Not good!
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Frank" wrote in message ... Refineries closing here because they are old, inefficient and over regulated. The ports are still there and finished petroleum products can still be shipped there. I was told by friend in epa that they had been importing most of their stuff as finished products in recent years anyway. |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
"HeyBub" wrote in
m: We need realistic thinking. If one thinks logically, taxes on the poor should be raised, not the rich. * There are more of them. A dollar from a million poor people raises more revenue than $100,000 from a rich person. * The poor use more government services. Oh, sure, the rich are driven on public road and fly through government-controlled air space, but they don't send their kids to public school, collect food stamps or rent supplements, and are not treated at county hospitals. Therefore the poor should pay more because of the services they consume. I think firing squads would be cheaper. Definitely faster. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
Attila.Iskander wrote:
Not to mention that when the taxes reach the point of being onerous, the rich, can move their wealth to various shelters and thus avoid paying all those now-inapplicable taxes. WE only have to look at Euro countries which have incredible onerous taxes on the rich, and where tax avoidance is endemic to the point that countries are going bankrupt for lack of tax collection. We don't have to look that far. Think California or New York. The Wall Street Journal had an opinion piece a while back from a fellow who moved from New York to Florida and saved $13,000 in taxes. Oh, that saving was $13,000 per DAY. I understand Rush Limbaugh likewise moved from New York to Florida, probably for the same reason. |
Northeast heating oil prices and gasoline?
"HeyBub" wrote in
m: Attila.Iskander wrote: Not to mention that when the taxes reach the point of being onerous, the rich, can move their wealth to various shelters and thus avoid paying all those now-inapplicable taxes. WE only have to look at Euro countries which have incredible onerous taxes on the rich, and where tax avoidance is endemic to the point that countries are going bankrupt for lack of tax collection. We don't have to look that far. Think California or New York. The Wall Street Journal had an opinion piece a while back from a fellow who moved from New York to Florida and saved $13,000 in taxes. Oh, that saving was $13,000 per DAY. I understand Rush Limbaugh likewise moved from New York to Florida, probably for the same reason. Some states like Italy or New York, or for that matter NJ, have a LOT of political cronyism and/or corruption. But Florida has as only good point Disney World, and once every 5 or 10 years is enough of that. Oh, by the way, I'd like to be able to save 13K/day, but that is only roughly my yearly real estate/school taxes here in Jersey. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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